GTA TDE - The VGD Ultimate Fixes and Improvements Comparison Thread

[BS_BlackScout]

This thread is for everyone to share and consolidate their comparisons on how the latest patch(es) from VGD have helped improve GTA: The Definitive Edition overall.

 

GTA San Andreas:

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VGD updated an explosion set.

T_ExplosionSheet_01_BC
 

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Same but with VGD suffix

 

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A cracked glass texture is darker now.
T_GlassShatter_M
 

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https://imgsli.com/MzE4MTIw

A finish flag texture seemed to be very low res, it's now high res:
T_finishFlag_BC
 

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(No need for imgsli)

A lock UI texture seemed to be manually colored green. Now it's white, probably programmatically colored now?

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https://imgsli.com/MzE4MTIx

Improved door
T_gz_vic1e_BC

 

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https://imgsli.com/MzE4MTIy

 

 T_des_cockhead (+ normals and other channels)

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Entirely changed. It seems they have reworked the cock using Substance Painter or similar software (look at the texture explosion)
Go check the cock in-game, it probably looks really good and shiny!
 

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Some building has had its textures changed from stairs to vents/grills?? It probably makes sense if you find it. Could be anywhere...

 

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 They tweaked SF's bridge a bit:

 

I think it's the SF Bridge? 
T_whisk2_BC

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A LV building had its textures cleaned up:

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https://imgsli.com/MzE4MTI5

 

VRock Building in LV had textures fully reworked:

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https://imgsli.com/MzE4MTMw
 

A texture got flipped. T_sw_door18_BC

looks familiar... Maybe it was shown in VI or something
Re-watch the trailer and you'll find it.

 

I don't know, your guess is as good as mine:

https://imgsli.com/MzE4MTMx

 

A small cut on CS Sweet's clothing texture was removed/fixed

 

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(CS) Maria had her skin tone altered (two textures, showing only one as example)

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(CS) Woozie had his head skin tone altered.

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The cock base had a different color:

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Player cowboy boots have now a different color, darker:

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Brand new pant textures for CJ:

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Entirely changed normal map for CJ's Jacket?

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Slight adjustments to CJ's texture:

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A CJ shoe texture fix:
 

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Small adjustments to CJ's Tank Tops M(etalness?) channel texture:

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I have currently not compared the other titles. Feel free to contribute!

 

Edited November 14, 2024 by BS_BlackScout

[SquoniX]

The sandstorm weather effect has been fixed (@Darudnik1 on Twitter):

 

OG DE lighting:

 

Classic lighting:

 

More comparison shots (@BeskInfinity on Twitter):

 

OG DE lighting:

 

Classic lighting:

 

OG DE lighting:

 

Classic lighting:

 

OG DE lighting:

 

Classic lighting:

 

A Home in the Hills:

 

OG DE lighting:

 

Classic lighting:

 

Thanks to @44Orca. I was wondering how the map looks now with the fog added!

Edited November 19, 2024 by SquoniX

[Havi]

Reposting my posts from the other thread

 

San Andreas

  

On 11/12/2024 at 11:03 PM, Havi said:

GTA San Andreas

 

Fixed the wrong Crash minimap icon. The blue icon the incorrect one

  

On 11/12/2024 at 11:08 PM, Havi said:

GTA San Andreas

 

They also fixed the "ELECTONICS" vs "ELECTRONICS" text mistake

  

On 11/12/2024 at 11:12 PM, Havi said:

GTA San Andreas

 

Overhauled texture

  

On 11/12/2024 at 10:52 PM, Havi said:

GTA San Andreas

 

Balaclava texture has been improved

 

On 11/13/2024 at 12:20 AM, Havi said:

GTA San Andreas

 

Love Fist

 

On 11/12/2024 at 11:34 PM, Havi said:

GTA San Andreas

 

Sphinx Face color fixed

• Previous: Red
• New: Greenish Blue

 

On 11/13/2024 at 12:42 AM, Havi said:

GTA San Andreas

 

carcols.dat for the Patriot vehicle was also updated:

• Before: patriot, 43,0
• After: patriot, 86,0

 

On 11/13/2024 at 12:27 AM, Havi said:

GTA San Andreas

 

Tenpenny's badges on his clothing are improved

 

On 11/13/2024 at 1:12 AM, Havi said:

GTA San Andreas

Many Doors and Windows improvements made that were caused by AI upscale slob:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Vice City

On 11/13/2024 at 1:49 AM, Havi said:

GTA Vice City

Fixed typo of "Tenerife" to "Tenerifea" and improved the topper part of the texture

 

On 11/13/2024 at 1:55 AM, Havi said:

GTA Vice City

 

  

On 11/13/2024 at 2:02 AM, Havi said:

GTA Vice City

 

They should've just recreated this image entirely, but I appreciate the effort

 

Improved "Value Added Tardermy" to "Value Added Taxidermy"

 

  

On 11/13/2024 at 2:14 AM, Havi said:

GTA Vice City

 

Overall Squalo 550 texture improvements, including the letter "Q" in the name

  

On 11/13/2024 at 2:29 AM, Havi said:

GTA Vice City
 

Handling.cfg
 

TractionLoss has been changed for the following vehicles:

• Bike: From 0.95 to 0.9
• Moped: From 0.95 to 0.9
• Dirtbike: From 1.19 to 0.9
• Angel: From 0.91 to 0.86
• Freeway: From 0.87 to 0.82

PercentSubmerged has been changed for the following vehicles:

• Reefer: From 8 to 15

SuspensionForceLevel has been changed for the following vehicles:

• RCBaron: From 2.5 to 1.6

SuspensionUpperLimit has been changed for the following vehicles:

• Angel: From 0.02 to 0.09
• Freeway: From 0.02 to 0.09

SuspensionLowerLimit has been changed for the following vehicles:

• Angel: From 0.02 to 0.11
• Freeway: From 0.02 to 0.11
• RCBaron: From 2.5 to 1.6

 

Seaspar was removed from the Handling.cfg file.

 

On 11/13/2024 at 2:11 AM, Havi said:

GTA Vice City

 

Lights improved. Dark Red is the new one

 

  

On 11/13/2024 at 1:59 AM, Havi said:

GTA Vice City

 

Fixed typo's of:

• VicePort, Airpoty to VicePort, Airport
• Startfish Island to Starfish Island
• Escobat Airport to Escobar Airport

 

On 11/13/2024 at 1:43 AM, Havi said:

GTA Vice City

 

Fixed typo of "But" to "Buy"

 

Road lines were removed as they were not intended to be used on this corner piece

 

GTA 3

  

3 hours ago, Havi said:

GTA 3

 

Fixed a typo of "Car Accesories" to "Car Accessories"

 

Improved the texture to be more realistic and fitting in the environment

 

Overhauled the texture entirely

 

Improved the texture to be more realistic and fitting in the environment

 

Improved the texture to be more realistic and fitting in the environment and fixed the following typo:

• "Engines-Bearboxes" to "Engines-Gearboxes"

 

Improved the texture to be more realistic and fitting in the environment

 

Improved the texture to be more realistic and fitting in the environment and moved the period closer

 

  

3 hours ago, Havi said:

Removed part of the background texture from the banner

 

Replaced the AI upscaled door entirely

 

"Auto • Repairs •" now shows correctly

 

De-saturated this part of the wall and removed "Au" from it as it is now fully placed on the other part of the texture for better flow

 

  

1 hour ago, Havi said:

GTA 3

Added in the "Particles" folder

 

Same for the "Signs" folder

 

Same for "Buildings" but it isn't as spectacular

 

 

 

Edited November 14, 2024 by Havi

[BS_BlackScout]

I am currently looking at string changes (English only). There's too many for me to post.

Here's what I found on SA so far:

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Added a new tip!

Busted now has an exclamation mark somewhere.

Tooltips for Flight School or Verdant Meadows missions have been updated and made more clear:

Instructions have been clarified:

Control tips havebeen added on Bike School (Either QOL or fix)

Added extra strings for tips in missions??

Added more  tips for Amphibious Assault (I think)

Nonsense change, reuse?

Unsure about this, had to copy and paste:
    "FES_WP8": "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas requires an additional 2.5 GB download. Please make sure you have access to a Wi-Fi Access Point, and that your device is plugged into a power source until the download is complete.",
vs
    "FEN_NGX": "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas — The Definitive Edition (standard game)",
    "FES_WP8": "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas — The Definitive Edition requires an additional 2.5 GB download. Please make sure you have access to a Wi-Fi Access Point, and that your device is plugged into a power source until the download is complete.",

Not sure what that NGX and WP8 means. Leftovers? Windows Phone 8? NGX Next Gen?

[Havi]

I did them for all the games, but it is not worth sharing in my opinion, so that's why I didn't. But here you go. This one is from GTA 3

 

Localization Removed:

• Grove Street Games is a registered trademark of War Drum Studios LLC.
• Jump into a boat and press ~h~::DOOR:: ~w~to get in.
• Swipe across the bottom left of the screen to cycle through the ~h~radio stations.

Localization Added:

• I accept the Terms of Service, and I acknowledge that I have read and understood the Privacy Policy.

This chunk is meant for Mobile, but adding it anyway:

• Double tap and hold in the center of the screen to activate the ~h~horn~w~ and let Misty know you are here.
• Double tap and hold in the center of the screen to sound the ~h~horn~w~ to get the deal going.
• Double tap in the center of the screen to activate the Icecream jingle.
• Double tap in the center of the screen to sound the ~h~horn~w~ to get the girl into the car.
• Double tap in the center of the screen to sound the ~h~horn~w~.
• Have an Uzi selected when entering a vehicle, then hold ::$shoot:: and drag your finger left or right to fire your weapon.
• Have an Uzi selected when entering a vehicle, then hold ::LOOKLEFT:: or ::LOOKRIGHT:: to fire your weapon.
• Have an Uzi selected when entering a vehicle, then hold ::LOOKLEFT:: or ::LOOKRIGHT:: to look, then press ::FIREVEH:: to fire your weapon.
• To turn on this vehicle's sirens double tap in the center of the screen
• Press ::SPRINT:: when running to ~h~sprint. ~w~Double tap ::SPRINT:: to jump.
• Press ~h~::$hud_boat:: ~w~to get in the boat.
• Press ~h~::$shoot:: ~w~to ~h~fire~w~ the sniper rifle.
• Press ~h~::DOOR:: ~w~to get in the boat.
• Press ~h~::LOCKON:: ~w~to ~h~target~w~ with the sniper rifle.
• Tap ~h~::$radio_wheel::~w~ to bring up the radio wheel to select a station.
• Use pinch and zoom gestures in the center of the screen to change camera modes when on foot or in a vehicle.
• While locked on, swipe left or right on the middle of the screen to switch targets.
• You can press ~h~::$hud_boat:: ~w~if you are near a boat to get in it.
• You can ride the L-train around Portland. Press ~h~::$hud_train::~w~ to ~h~enter ~w~or ~h~exit~w~ a train.
• You can take the subway trains across Liberty. Press ~h~::$hud_train::~w~ to ~h~enter ~w~or ~h~exit~w~ a train.

Localization Updated:

• "Delete Grand Theft Auto III Files" to "Delete Grand Theft Auto III — The Definitive Edition Files"
• "If you hit a vehicle's wheels the RC buggy will detonate!" to "If you hit a vehicle's wheels, the RC buggy will detonate!"
• "Press ~h~::VEHB::~w~ to ~h~activate the bomb,~w~ remember to get out of the way." to "Press ~h~::VEHB::~w~ to ~h~activate the bomb. ~w~ Remember to get out of the way.
• "Rate GTA III" to "Rate Grand Theft Auto III – The Definitive Edition"
• "Restarting Grand Theft Auto III" to "Restarting Grand Theft Auto III — The Definitive Edition"
• "To collect weapons walk through them. These cannot be collected while in a vehicle." to "To collect weapons, walk through them. Weapons cannot be collected while in a vehicle."
• "~g~Find the ~r~boat~g~ and get to the ~b~marker buoy!" to "~g~Find the ~r~boat~g~ and get to the ~b~marker buoy~g~!~g~"
• "~g~Now get to the ~b~marker buoy!" to "~g~Now get to the ~b~marker buoy~g~!~g~"
• "~g~Punish the gang responsible and retrieve the ~b~protection money~g~!" to "~g~Punish the gang responsible and retrieve the ~b~protection money~g~!~g~"

This chunk is meant for Mobile, but adding it anyway:

• "If you enjoy playing GTA III, please take a moment to rate it. ~N~Thank you for your support!" to "If you enjoy playing Grand Theft Auto III – The Definitive Edition, please take a moment to rate it. ~N~Thank you for your support!"

Edited November 14, 2024 by Havi

[AudaxTenebra]

47 minutes ago, Havi said:

I did them for all the games, but it is not worth sharing in my opinion, so that's why I didn't. But here you go. This one is from GTA 3

 

Localization Removed:

• Grove Street Games is a registered trademark of War Drum Studios LLC.
• Jump into a boat and press ~h~::DOOR:: ~w~to get in.
• Swipe across the bottom left of the screen to cycle through the ~h~radio stations.

Localization Added:

• I accept the Terms of Service, and I acknowledge that I have read and understood the Privacy Policy.

This chunk is meant for Mobile, but adding it anyway:

• Double tap and hold in the center of the screen to activate the ~h~horn~w~ and let Misty know you are here.
• Double tap and hold in the center of the screen to sound the ~h~horn~w~ to get the deal going.
• Double tap in the center of the screen to activate the Icecream jingle.
• Double tap in the center of the screen to sound the ~h~horn~w~ to get the girl into the car.
• Double tap in the center of the screen to sound the ~h~horn~w~.
• Have an Uzi selected when entering a vehicle, then hold ::$shoot:: and drag your finger left or right to fire your weapon.
• Have an Uzi selected when entering a vehicle, then hold ::LOOKLEFT:: or ::LOOKRIGHT:: to fire your weapon.
• Have an Uzi selected when entering a vehicle, then hold ::LOOKLEFT:: or ::LOOKRIGHT:: to look, then press ::FIREVEH:: to fire your weapon.
• To turn on this vehicle's sirens double tap in the center of the screen
• Press ::SPRINT:: when running to ~h~sprint. ~w~Double tap ::SPRINT:: to jump.
• Press ~h~::$hud_boat:: ~w~to get in the boat.
• Press ~h~::$shoot:: ~w~to ~h~fire~w~ the sniper rifle.
• Press ~h~::DOOR:: ~w~to get in the boat.
• Press ~h~::LOCKON:: ~w~to ~h~target~w~ with the sniper rifle.
• Tap ~h~::$radio_wheel::~w~ to bring up the radio wheel to select a station.
• Use pinch and zoom gestures in the center of the screen to change camera modes when on foot or in a vehicle.
• While locked on, swipe left or right on the middle of the screen to switch targets.
• You can press ~h~::$hud_boat:: ~w~if you are near a boat to get in it.
• You can ride the L-train around Portland. Press ~h~::$hud_train::~w~ to ~h~enter ~w~or ~h~exit~w~ a train.
• You can take the subway trains across Liberty. Press ~h~::$hud_train::~w~ to ~h~enter ~w~or ~h~exit~w~ a train.

Localization Updated:

• "Delete Grand Theft Auto III Files" to "Delete Grand Theft Auto III — The Definitive Edition Files"
• "If you hit a vehicle's wheels the RC buggy will detonate!" to "If you hit a vehicle's wheels, the RC buggy will detonate!"
• "Press ~h~::VEHB::~w~ to ~h~activate the bomb,~w~ remember to get out of the way." to "Press ~h~::VEHB::~w~ to ~h~activate the bomb. ~w~ Remember to get out of the way.
• "Rate GTA III" to "Rate Grand Theft Auto III – The Definitive Edition"
• "Restarting Grand Theft Auto III" to "Restarting Grand Theft Auto III — The Definitive Edition"
• "To collect weapons walk through them. These cannot be collected while in a vehicle." to "To collect weapons, walk through them. Weapons cannot be collected while in a vehicle."
• "~g~Find the ~r~boat~g~ and get to the ~b~marker buoy!" to "~g~Find the ~r~boat~g~ and get to the ~b~marker buoy~g~!~g~"
• "~g~Now get to the ~b~marker buoy!" to "~g~Now get to the ~b~marker buoy~g~!~g~"
• "~g~Punish the gang responsible and retrieve the ~b~protection money~g~!" to "~g~Punish the gang responsible and retrieve the ~b~protection money~g~!~g~"

This chunk is meant for Mobile, but adding it anyway:

• "If you enjoy playing GTA III, please take a moment to rate it. ~N~Thank you for your support!" to "If you enjoy playing Grand Theft Auto III – The Definitive Edition, please take a moment to rate it. ~N~Thank you for your support!"

What rly rly annoys me in this version is that it feels like I'm playing a mobile game being emulated on PC. The ToS new screen, the new splash screen, etc all screams Mobile to me...

[Havi]

2 minutes ago, AudaxTenebra said:

What rly rly annoys me in this version is that it feels like I'm playing a mobile game being emulated on PC. The ToS new screen, the new splash screen, etc all screams Mobile to me...

I see where you're coming from

[Ash_735]

4 hours ago, Havi said:

 

VGD, this one's in the Manuals:

[boomboom5950]

dont know if this was already mentioned but in VC the banshee and infernus got new wheel models:

before:

after:

[FulVal85]

3 hours ago, boomboom5950 said:

dont know if this was already mentioned but in VC the banshee and infernus got new wheel models:

before:

after:

That Banshee is yellow or what?... (This is happening with all colors of all cars that appear as yellow)

[boomboom5950]

2 hours ago, FulVal85 said:

That Banshee is yellow or what?... (This is happening with all colors of all cars that appear as yellow)

the banshee is yellow, but sometimes its hard to tell especially during sunsets and sunrises now that the reflections are super strong. Its even worse in SA when your car becomes a toxic waste bright green color on sunrise/set

 

hopefully the new patch brings some of the modding community back into the games, theres still plenty that needs to be fixed/improved, and alot of the older mods no longer work anymore. 

[suicidehummer]

8 hours ago, boomboom5950 said:

dont know if this was already mentioned but in VC the banshee and infernus got new wheel models:

before:

after:

 

IDK why GSG completely changed the wheel design on certain cars. That's certainly closer to the original, though it looks a bit like the steel wheels from a work van.

 

 

The original wheel was modeled after the OZ Racing Futura.

 

 

[boomboom5950]

2 hours ago, suicidehummer said:

 

IDK why GSG completely changed the wheel design on certain cars. That's certainly closer to the original, though it looks a bit like the steel wheels from a work van.

 

 

The original wheel was modeled after the OZ Racing Futura.

 

 

Yea not great but much better than the smoothie rims from before... Plenty of vehicle related decisions they made in these remasters that i could never understand why, like keeping the monster truck suspension on the banshee or using the freaking ps2 car models for III instead of the xbox models...

 

3d modeled engine on the xbox version, 2d texture in the DE LOL

[BS_BlackScout]

3 hours ago, suicidehummer said:

 

IDK why GSG completely changed the wheel design on certain cars. That's certainly closer to the original, though it looks a bit like the steel wheels from a work van.

 

 

The original wheel was modeled after the OZ Racing Futura.

 

 

For the same reason they changed fire in cars to be on the tires instead of over the roof. Because it's cool, modern, is in GTA V and IV and because they wanted to.

 

*Sarcasm

 

But yeah, they gave zero f about the original material as usual.

[suicidehummer]

1 hour ago, boomboom5950 said:

Yea not great but much better than the smoothie rims from before... Plenty of vehicle related decisions they made in these remasters that i could never understand why, like keeping the monster truck suspension on the banshee or using the freaking ps2 car models for III instead of the xbox models...

 

3d modeled engine on the xbox version, 2d texture in the DE LOL

 

No way, I never realized those wheels were supposed to have spokes! In the PS2 version, they look like dog dish wheels.

 

That's insane that they would actually remodel the vehicles just for Xbox. They need to add the Xbox car models into GTA Wiki.

[TheOriginalGunslinger]

It’s still strange to me in GTA San Andreas DE after recruiting gang members and getting into a vehicle with them they shoot at enemy gang members in vehicles but they don’t do a single thing on foot when you attack a gang member for example

 

I swear everytime I recruit a Grove homie to go take over a hood they do not shoot. I’m the only one putting in work and they just stand in front of me and watch lol. They are useless even if it did work but it’s still fun having a few with you attacking a hood or just going places in general. I guess no biggie though. Still enjoying the game

Edited November 15, 2024 by TheOriginalGunslinger

[zanesix]

4 hours ago, boomboom5950 said:

using the freaking ps2 car models for III instead of the xbox models...

Yet they used the Xbox models for Vice City!!!! What the hell happened??? Personally this is the regression that shocks me the most throughout all of DE. Even the MOBILE version of 3 used the Xbox vehicles, and that was the same developer! How could they forget them here, yet suddenly remember them again for the next game?

 

2 hours ago, suicidehummer said:

 

No way, I never realized those wheels were supposed to have spokes! In the PS2 version, they look like dog dish wheels.

 

That's insane that they would actually remodel the vehicles just for Xbox. They need to add the Xbox car models into GTA Wiki.

GTA 3 on Xbox got a shocking amount of changes, its almost a complete overhaul of the game. New animation system, better textures, improved vegatation, more detailed models... Hell, even entire areas were overhauled:

Xbox:

 

PS2:

 

... And DE used exactly none of it.

 

Edited November 15, 2024 by zanesix

[AverageOnlinePlayer]

San andreas definitely benefited the most out of these updates 

[44Orca]

Was the one they didn't put that much work on due to being a slightly bigger game, aside from many glitch/bugs than the others, the look of the game was so off, even some gameplay stuff. Just not a good experience.

I am looking to replay it now, but still needs few more fixes like the other two.

Some say some of the character models' faces got changed but I didn't notice anything. I should've kept the past version so I can compare stuff too..

Edited November 15, 2024 by 44Orca

[4d4m1]

Is it just me, or do the cars in San Andreas feel significantly worse? I didn't notice any differences in III and VC, but in SA they seem to barely turn anymore

[BS_BlackScout]

A cool video that got recommended to me:

I agree with some of his sentiments.

Some of the weather presets could use some tweaking to maybe reduce a biiiit of the Draw Distance and increase the fog.

But I do prefer some of how it is at the moment, I think at times the OG PS2 version looked comically foggy for no reason.

 

VGD did a fantastic job given what they were handed not going to lie. I hope, really hope they are allowed to continue working on this.

Edited November 16, 2024 by BS_BlackScout

[zanesix]

They super over-corrected with the SF lighting. Before just the sky was blue, but now everything has a blue tint on it. Same with the purple desert sky. It's like it's so bright the color is reflecting off of all the geometry, lol.

Edited November 16, 2024 by zanesix

[videotechuk_]

Some major updates made to Market Station and the train tunnels!

 

1.00

 

 

 

Current Patch 

 

 

1.00 

 

 

Current Patch:

 

Edited November 16, 2024 by videotechuk_

[videotechuk_]

Pre-patch 

Current patch 

[Lock n' Stock]

Have any of these sh*t character models been redone?

 

Edited November 17, 2024 by Lock n' Stock

[Cluckin Bell CEO]

12 minutes ago, Lock n' Stock said:

Have any of these sh*t character models been redone?

 

 

I think CJ has been improved a bit, not sure about the others though. Saw vice city videos yesterday and Tommy still looks the same

[FulVal85]

1 hour ago, Lock n' Stock said:

Have any of these sh*t character models been redone?

 

Asuka's eyes are fixed

Edited November 17, 2024 by FulVal85

[SquoniX]

Original game with SkyGFX vs DE (credits to @Vladesku on Reddit):

 

 

Edited November 19, 2024 by SquoniX

[Lock n' Stock]

4 hours ago, Cluckin Bell CEO said:

 

I think CJ has been improved a bit, not sure about the others though. Saw vice city videos yesterday and Tommy still looks the same

I noticed from footage. Ugh, probably the worst redesign of all 3 protagonists.

 

[FulVal85]

Check Lance