RED DEAD REDEMPTION & UNDEAD NIGHTMARE COMING TO PC 29TH OCTOBER

[Spider-Vice]

4 minutes ago, Yoona said:

TBH this is just a recommendation.

No, games under 20 GB do not get preloads at all on Steam. Those are official guidelines that Valve will follow once you contact them. They're just telling you to CONSIDER that if your game meets these requirements. I have not seen a game under that size get preloads approved.

 

I forgot that was a thing, so RDR will not have a preload for Steam, based on not just that but many other games, including the week-old Life is Strange early access which is 19 GB so it couldn't get a preload - yet it did on consoles.

[Jason]

Can't remember any small games getting pre-loads so yea that might be a hard rule and not something you can talk your self around.

 

Pre-load and release times is one of Steam's weaknesses. It's gotten better in recent years but it's still not great. There was a time when midnight launches on Steam just completely stopped happening across the board, meanwhile console had rolling midnight launches as standard. You do now see midnight launches on Steam here and there but it's still iffy.

[Yoona]

13 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

No, games under 20 GB do not get preloads at all on Steam. Those are official guidelines that Valve will follow once you contact them. They're just telling you to CONSIDER that if your game meets these requirements. I have not seen a game under that size get preloads approved.

 

I forgot that was a thing, so RDR will not have a preload for Steam, based on not just that but many other games, including the week-old Life is Strange early access which is 19 GB so it couldn't get a preload - yet it did on consoles.

Ok then. If Life is Strange added one more mandatory voice language to the download, they could easily hit 20 GB

 

Rockstar Games save quite a lot of space by having only one spoken language - English.

Edited October 24 by Yoona

[Spider-Vice]

Well, sure  My point was more that RDR is small enough that it doesn't fall under Steam's requirement for 20 GB or more, so no preload most likely.

[Kust]

Isen't there also some bad thing with preload aswell like for a game like RDR1 is 12 then you would need like 24 instead of 12 because it has to unpack the game?

[Spider-Vice]

6 minutes ago, Kust said:

Isen't there also some bad thing with preload aswell like for a game like RDR1 is 12 then you would need like 24 instead of 12 because it has to unpack the game?

That's just how it works in general with having to patch or unpack a compressed or encrypted file. If your connection is fast enough to download like 20 GB in just a few minutes, it's sometimes better to just download it at launch rather than preload because of this - I did that with Horizon Forbidden West's 120 GB because it would probably take longer than the download to fully decrypt that preload. For those with slower connections and a decent CPU/SSD though, the decryption/extraction is likely preferrable.

 

This happens with some larger patches to Steam games too.

[DeafMetal]

I'm praying for someone with a lot of time and dedication (there is internet slang for this term) who will try to stitch the two together for an ultimate rdr game. 

[Xerukal]

 

This is killing me for some reason. 

[Cordohen]

There's preload now on the RGL, just got an update.

[neonwinch83]

18 minutes ago, Cordohen said:

There's preload now on the RGL, just got an update.

Really? And not Steam?

[Yoona]

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Sales aren't too hot, only #86 on global Steam chart. The price is a problem

Edited October 24 by Yoona

[neonwinch83]

I guess I was right about the pre-load being today, just not how I expected it lmao. Sucks for us Steam users I guess.

[MasterEr]

8 minutes ago, Yoona said:

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Sales aren't too hot, only stop #86 on global Steam chart. The price is a problem

 

 

Here in my country it is 1/3 of the minimum wage, I would hardly buy it now without being on some promotion, I will have to wait or get it through other means.

Edited October 24 by MasterEr

[Index]

It is possible that it's just an update applied to the launcher unless it varies on other platforms, either that or someone's telling porkies

 

Going back to Spiders post above, I don't think we'll be seeing one.

[neonwinch83]

Lot of activity on SteamDB, hopium.

[Cordohen]

7 minutes ago, lndex said:

It is possible that it's just an update applied to the launcher unless it varies on other platforms, either that or someone's telling porkies

 

Going back to Spiders post above, I don't think we'll be seeing one.

It's preload, not just a random update.

 

RGL got an update and after that it showed the preload button on the game's page. It's around 9GB.

 

But yea I guess it's only for RGL users, at least for now.

 

Edited October 24 by Cordohen

[neonwinch83]

8 minutes ago, Cordohen said:

It's preload, not just a random update.

 

RGL got an update and after that it showed the preload button on the game's page. It's around 9GB.

 

But yea I guess it's only for RGL users, at least for now.

Can you like, provide a screenshot, lol?

Edit: That settles it, I guess on Steam we'll just have to wait on release. Valve's guidelines suck.

Edited October 24 by neonwinch83
Clarification

[MasterEr]

17 minutes ago, Cordohen said:

It's preload, not just a random update.

 

RGL got an update and after that it showed the preload button on the game's page. It's around 9GB.

 

But yea I guess it's only for RGL users, at least for now.

 

 

True fan of Rockstar Games Launcher,

[Cordohen]

11 minutes ago, MasterEr said:

True fan of Rockstar Games Launcher

There's a good chunk of my R* games on Steam tho, the RGL just shows them all (regardless of where you bought them).

[neonwinch83]

There's a lot of SteamDB activity as I mentioned earlier, so I'm hoping we see a pre-load on there. I'm doubting it though, wouldn't it be up by now?

[Tez2]

They've adjusted the release timing on Rockstar Store and Epic Games.

 

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"releaseDate": 1730210400000, //Tuesday 29 October 2024 14:00:00 GMT

 

I suppose it's because Daylight Saving Time is in effect, so the release would be at 10 AM EDT. When Rockstar released the Trilogy DE at 3 PM GMT, Standard Time was in effect, so it was released at 10 AM EST.

[Spider-Vice]

1 hour ago, neonwinch83 said:

Really? And not Steam?

As we were discussing, it's likely the file size limit.

[Bizz913]

57 minutes ago, Cordohen said:

It's preload, not just a random update.

 

RGL got an update and after that it showed the preload button on the game's page. It's around 9GB.

 

But yea I guess it's only for RGL users, at least for now.

 

!2 gigs and no exe for now right? Any word on drm apart from this launcher?

[RecklessGlue540]

10 minutes ago, Bizz913 said:

!2 gigs and no exe for now right? Any word on drm apart from this launcher?

Probably nothing else, like GTAIV, MP3 etc

 

I mean of course, probably nothing else apart from Steam / EGS / RGL, depending on where you buy it from.

Theoretically getting it from RGL means less DRM because it's only the launcher itself into play.

Edited October 24 by RecklessGlue540

[RainSplashed]

11 minutes ago, Bizz913 said:

!2 gigs and no exe for now right? Any word on drm apart from this launcher?

RDR2 had Arxan anti-tamper, GTA Trilogy didn't. It'll be interesting to see what this one has.

[Xerukal]

Oh word, I had no idea there was a hard size limit for pre-loads on Steam. They really ought to rethink how they handle them soon. Not to say we absolutely need pre-loads for 10-12 gig games, but more on how early you can have pre-loads for bigger games start up. I feel like console pre-loads are way more generous nowadays.

Edited October 24 by Xerukal

[MasterEr]

9 minutes ago, RecklessGlue540 said:

Probably nothing else, like GTAIV, MP3 etc

 

I mean of course, probably nothing else apart from Steam / EGS / RGL, depending on where you buy it from.

Theoretically getting it from RGL means less DRM because it's only the launcher itself into play.

 

 

In 2019 I bought RDR2 in a year-end promotion at RGL, it is my only game that I have on the launcher

[El Dorado]

screenshots of the file structure in the rgl pre load?

[Ghost-Zedz]

Just hung up my RDR poster and having a shirt made, So hyped!

 

 

[Cordohen]

26 minutes ago, El Dorado said:

screenshots of the file structure in the rgl pre load?