RED DEAD REDEMPTION & UNDEAD NIGHTMARE COMING TO PC 29TH OCTOBER

[MasterEr]

One thing I'm grateful for is the port of RDR1 coming in its original version, without makeup, as it's already a beautiful game in the 360/ps3 version in its original graphics,

 

About DE: in my honest opinion, I've played GTA Originals since 2008, and in my opinion what I liked most about Definitive was the lighting and vegetation in GTA VC DE

 

Especially the palm trees, they gave the game another life, 

 

The remaster is like makeup to give the game more life,

 

I tried for years to remaster GTA VC on my own, but I never managed to come close to what the Unreal Engine is capable of, I always got errors or slowdowns, and with the arrival of DE, I no longer see the need to remaster the original but to play it the way it is, and Definitive appears as a more modern alternative to the Game without needing the effort of remastering the game and being subject to several problems caused by Renderware's limitations.

 

EDIT: The Originals will always have a place in my heart, it brings me so many good memories, but DE is a good alternative to the 3 games that seemed abandoned by Rockstar for years.

Edited October 19, 2024 by MasterEr

[Zeta87]

Sorry if this has already been asked, but will Rockstar Games announce the time zones in which the game will be unlocked? For other Rockstar Games titles, when were they unlocked? At 5 PM Central European Time?

[Kust]

Was wondering when they released switch and ps4 was songs removed from RDR1? Or it's not the same as with GTA where the licence for the music expires?

[RecklessGlue540]

18 minutes ago, Kust said:

Was wondering when they released switch and ps4 was songs removed from RDR1? Or it's not the same as with GTA where the licence for the music expires?

Red dead doesn't have a radio lmao

 

Also I think all the ambient and battle songs are made for the game and those actually are safe?

For example that one song on Vladivostok for IV, Liberty City, didn't get cut because it was made for the game.

 

42 minutes ago, Zeta87 said:

Sorry if this has already been asked, but will Rockstar Games announce the time zones in which the game will be unlocked? For other Rockstar Games titles, when were they unlocked? At 5 PM Central European Time?

 

Edited October 20, 2024 by RecklessGlue540

[Xerukal]

They likely mean songs like Far Away and Dead Man's Gun, both of which were actually made for RDR, as far as I know. Same with all the banger stuff by Kreeps in Undead Nightmare. It should all be 100% safe. 

Edited October 20, 2024 by Xerukal

[Ghost-Zedz]

2 hours ago, Kust said:

Was wondering when they released switch and ps4 was songs removed from RDR1? Or it's not the same as with GTA where the licence for the music expires?

 

no 

[Spider-Vice]

On 10/18/2024 at 7:35 PM, Jason said:

Yes, those tags on Steam are added by the users, nothing to do w/ the developers.

And very easily abused, which is why people keep seeing those tag updates on SteamDB. Most bigger games get constantly trolled to be in NSFW categories so they disappear from people's lists.

[Ogden]

On 10/10/2024 at 7:02 AM, LennyH said:

for those wondering, mods are already made (such as graphics and textures) and you'll have them on PC as well.

 

How long will it take to get this mod working with the PC release? 

[RecklessGlue540]

43 minutes ago, Ogden said:

How long will it take to get this mod working with the PC release? 

As soon as tools will support it I guess..

[MasterEr]

I have my pc i3 3220 with gt 1030

 

I'm in doubt about buying an i7 3770 to improve my PC's performance

 

Or buy a new i5 12400f platform, but I would keep the same GPU, I don't think it would change performance that much if I bought an i7 3770 or new platform with i5 12400f because of the limitation of the GT 1030

 

I have a lot of doubts because I want to run RDR1 smoothly from 30 FPS and above, I'm afraid of getting the i7 3770 and the game will ask for AVX2.

Edited October 20, 2024 by MasterEr

[Zeta87]

10 hours ago, MasterEr said:

I have my pc i3 3220 with gt 1030

 

I'm in doubt about buying an i7 3770 to improve my PC's performance

 

Or buy a new i5 12400f platform, but I would keep the same GPU, I don't think it would change performance that much if I bought an i7 3770 or new platform with i5 12400f because of the limitation of the GT 1030

 

I have a lot of doubts because I want to run RDR1 smoothly from 30 FPS and above, I'm afraid of getting the i7 3770 and the game will ask for AVX2.

Minimum  CPU requirement: i5 4670/ AMD FX-9590

 

 

 

Basically no need to change the GPU: the GT 1030 is 92% of the power of a Radeon R7 360 (the minimum specced GPU).

Edited October 21, 2024 by Zeta87

[Yoona]

13 hours ago, MasterEr said:

I have my pc i3 3220 with gt 1030

 

I'm in doubt about buying an i7 3770 to improve my PC's performance

 

Or buy a new i5 12400f platform, but I would keep the same GPU, I don't think it would change performance that much if I bought an i7 3770 or new platform with i5 12400f because of the limitation of the GT 1030

 

I have a lot of doubts because I want to run RDR1 smoothly from 30 FPS and above, I'm afraid of getting the i7 3770 and the game will ask for AVX2.

I already replied to you a week ago that FX-9590 from minimum req doesn't have AVX2 instructions. So your current i3 or i7 3770 should work as well.

 

Just wait 8 days and we'll know, maybe don't preorder yet in case there's some errors.

Edited October 21, 2024 by Yoona

[Clipper95]

15 hours ago, RecklessGlue540 said:

As soon as tools will support it I guess..

Probably day 1, Switch/PS4 RPFs are the same, even the save files are 1:1 and can just swap between iirc

[El Dorado]

one week till greatness fellas

 

 

 

[Yoona]

Wtf according to techpowerup GTX 960 is 212% faster than R7 360, so it's either insane optimization for AMD or they done goofed? Could have at least put GTX 950 as minimum spec for Nvidia. Weaker GTX 750 Ti is  

DirectX 12 (11_0) so it won't launch, but R7 360 is DirectX 12 (12_0)

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-r7-360.c2733

 

Check relative performance. In my opion they should have put GTX 950 as minimum spec, as it's supports DX 12 and is still much faster than R7 360 from AMD.

 

Edited October 21, 2024 by Yoona

[Jason]

Inconsistency's with reqs between AMD/nVidia and AMD/Intel is not that uncommon sadly.

 

Also a lot of those comparison sites aren't great, some just plain bad. Real benchmarking done properly across multiple is the best comparison. But if you're on the low low end it would be wise to wait for benchmarks for the game to come out, cause you can never be quite sure at the really low specs IMO. Either that or utilise Steam's refund feature.

[Yoona]

8 minutes ago, Jason said:

Inconsistency's with reqs between AMD/nVidia and AMD/Intel is not that uncommon sadly.

 

Also a lot of those comparison sites aren't great, some just plain bad. Real benchmarking done properly across multiple is the best comparison. But if you're on the low low end it would be wise to wait for benchmarks for the game to come out, cause you can never be quite sure at the really low specs IMO. Either that or utilise Steam's refund feature.

This site is pretty much spot on when it comes to comparisons. The gap is way too huge even if some data was incorrect.

 

I still think GTX 950 should have been minimum spec for Nvidia, as it's supports the same DX features as 960, has the same memory bus and amount of VRAM and is vastly superior to AMD GPU.

 

It's just that this game is so old I bet there's gonna be GTX 950 owners being worried it might not run... but yeah let's just wait for release and it will launch on these GPU's anyway and probably perform better than on R7 360.

 

 

 

Even GTX 950 can be faster than R7 370. Let alone faster GTX 960 compared to R7 360.

Edited October 21, 2024 by Yoona

[dev1ance]

9 minutes ago, Yoona said:

Wtf according to techpowerup GTX 960 is 212% faster than R7 360, so it's either insane optimization for AMD or they done goofed? Could have at least put GTX 950 as minimum spec for Nvidia. Weaker GTX 750 Ti is  

DirectX 12 (11_0) so it won't launch, but R7 360 is DirectX 12 (12_0)

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-r7-360.c2733

 

Check relative performance. In my opion they should have put GTX 950 as minimum spec, as it's supports DX 12 and is still much faster than R7 360 from AMD.

 

Its port/remaster from Rockstar, so remember they listed i5-2700K(later they changed it to i7, and on Steam for GTA SA Definitive is i7 6600 xD) and Ryzen 5 2600 for GTA Trilogy, so it's nothing new about inconsistency, we will see in couple of days how optimization looks

[Kust]

1 minute ago, dev1ance said:

Its port/remaster from Rockstar, so remember they listed i5-2700K(later they changed it to i7, and on Steam for GTA SA Definitive is i7 6600 xD) and Ryzen 5 2600 for GTA Trilogy, so it's nothing new about inconsistency, we will see in couple of days how optimization looks

 

But if the switch can run RDR1 in 60 fps then surely Pc should be able to handle atleast 60 aswell? How is a switch compared to the minimum and recommended specs for pc?

[Yoona]

7 minutes ago, Kust said:

 

But if the switch can run RDR1 in 60 fps then surely Pc should be able to handle atleast 60 aswell? How is a switch compared to the minimum and recommended specs for pc?

Only heavily overclocked modded Switch can run it at 60 fps and at 1080p.

 

But yeah it shows how insanely overstated requirements for PC versions are, because the Switch can't even compare with GTX 750 Ti (750 Ti lacks DX12 features required for DX12 game though) power wise and any intel CPU from 2010 onwards.

 

Edited October 21, 2024 by Yoona

[Jason]

13 minutes ago, Yoona said:

This site is pretty much spot on when it comes to comparisons. The gap is way too huge even if some data was incorrect.

 

When they do reviews/benchmarks yea, but "relative performance" charts aren't great IMO, and they reference that those charts are based on clock, core count and architecture. There's a lot of variables such a comparison leaves on the table.

[Yoona]

9 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

When they do reviews/benchmarks yea, but "relative performance" charts aren't great IMO, and they reference that those charts are based on clock, core count and architecture. There's a lot of variables such a comparison leaves on the table.

I understand that, but the gap is still too huge. There's real benchmarks comparing GTX 960 to R7 370, and it always wins against it.

 

The requirements are probably for around 30 fps on R7 360 and closer to 60 fps on GTX 960 in the same resolution and settings (probably 1080p)

 

 

Edited October 21, 2024 by Yoona

[dev1ance]

6 minutes ago, Kust said:

 

But if the switch can run RDR1 in 60 fps then surely Pc should be able to handle atleast 60 aswell? How is a switch compared to the minimum and recommended specs for pc?

If optimization will be similar to Switch version then even Radeon HD 7750 should do 1080p30(or integrated Vega 8 beacuse HD 7750 lacks of full DX12 support) because Switch GPU docked is something like Jetson TX1 so its very very low end GPU in PC world, and depends if this game will also run on DX11 or only DX12 maybe Vulkan(if Vulkan then HD 7750 should work)

[Jason]

Yea again it's not uncommon for PC reqs, especially GPU's, for a difference between AMD and nVidia cards. Sometimes it means nothing, sometimes it means it runs better on AMD or nVidia.

[Yoona]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

Yea again it's not uncommon for PC reqs, especially GPU's, for a difference between AMD and nVidia cards. Sometimes it means nothing, sometimes it means it runs better on AMD or nVidia.

I just hope there isn't a hard error upon launch, when someone tries to run on a GTX 950 which again supports all the same features and amount of VRAM as the "minimum" 960.

Edited October 21, 2024 by Yoona

[MasterEr]

2 minutes ago, Yoona said:

I just hope there isn't a hard error upon launch, when someone tries to run on a GTX 950 which again supports all the same features and amount of VRAM as the "minimum" 960.

 

5 hours ago, Zeta87 said:

Minimum  CPU requirement: i5 4670/ AMD FX-9590

 

 

 

Basically no need to change the GPU: the GT 1030 is 92% of the power of a Radeon R7 360 (the minimum specced GPU).

 

 

 

 

Thank you for helping me with the PC specifications, I'll wait for the release and then see what to do about the RDR1 issue, as AVX2 and FMA3 are not required, I believe it will run fine on many low-end PCs.

[Yoona]

16 minutes ago, MasterEr said:

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for helping me with the PC specifications, I'll wait for the release and then see what to do about the RDR1 issue, as AVX2 and FMA3 are not required, I believe it will run fine on many low-end PCs.

No problem. I'm pretty sure you can count for at least a stable 30 fps experience in native 1080p on PS4 like settings.

 

Because much weaker Switch is already 1080p with stable 30 fps as well, with just some settings lower than PS4.

 

Your CPU is weaker than minimum, but it supports 4 threads which matters a lot.

 

Your GPU supports the DX 12 instructions, and has 2 GB of VRAM like R7 360 and a normal most common GTX 960 version.

 

You have at least 8 GB of RAM, right? That's important as well.

Edited October 21, 2024 by Yoona

[Jason]

If you have a CPU under min req I'd definitely wait until benchmarks lol. The CPU being a bottleneck is a difficult thing to get around.

 

It's also one thing to say Switch runs it at X but Switch isn't running Windows and PC optimisation is never on the same level as console hardware optimisation. It's an old game so it should run well on low end hardware, but it's still requiring Windows 10 and DX12 and the stuff that comes with those.

[MasterEr]

 

9 minutes ago, Jason said:

If you have a CPU under min req I'd definitely wait until benchmarks lol. The CPU being a bottleneck is a difficult thing to get around.

 

It's also one thing to say Switch runs it at X but Switch isn't running Windows and PC optimisation is never on the same level as console hardware optimisation. It's an old game so it should run well on low end hardware, but it's still requiring Windows 10 and DX12 and the stuff that comes with those.

 

If the game doesn't ask for instructions, maybe I'll put an i7 3770 in place of the i3 3220 to give the PC more space without changing the entire platform now, I think I can still suck a little out of this PC for a few more months, until Windows 10 support ends 

Edited October 21, 2024 by MasterEr

[Yoona]

3 minutes ago, MasterEr said:

 

 

If the game doesn't ask for instructions, maybe I'll put an i7 3770 in place of the i3 3220 to give the PC more space without changing the entire platform now, I think I can still suck a little out of this PC for a few more months, until Windows 10 support ends 

You have to buy the i7 3770 or you already have it? This i3 handled GTA V in the city of LS above 30 fps so IMO expecting it in RDR should be more than given. There's just small ranches, forests, plains and one town in the game. Nothing as CPU intensive as all the cars, high buildings and pedestrians in Los Santos.

 

Do you have 8 GB of RAM?

Edited October 21, 2024 by Yoona