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This idea was about restoring Vice City features, things and content and adding some canonical content to the original San Andreas, maybe sometimes by broking lore laws (like adding Vice City map) but adding it very carefully and with a good quality of things. 

sa++ originally planned as a technical improvement of original game (inspired by re3) with adding advanced experience, which will allow you to add those things that were missing in the original game or that Rockstar ruined in this part of the game, adding them unnoticeably for the player, more features and content in (barely) canonical way. It was started in September 2022 and unfreezed couple a weeks ago. Based on community mods (SAxVCxLC included).

The idea is to create a technical basis for the game that can be reused for other modifications and the idea is the most natural and accurate combination of game maps in accordance with the canons (GTA1 + San Andreas) in the style and atmosphere of the original game.

Even if the modification is not brought to its logical final implementation, the main goal was to outline its concept and show how it could have been if Rockstar had taken on such an ambitious idea back in 2004, since this concept raises many things that even Rockstar themselves did not answered yet: how to combine different types of cars between different cities, what differences should be in the design, what variety of content should be present in the game, what game balance between content should be, and so on.

Exploring new ideas within the original style and relative canon with an attempt to recreate Rockstar's vision and atmosphere that took place during the production and release of the original game. Thus, the development of the modification itself is in a slightly alternate timeline. With using the minimum of modern things wherever possible.

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Used mods authors.
Slingshot753, SAxVCxLC team, Albany and others (credits.txt)

Thanks.
Old_Jankins, Gold, B1ack&Wh1te, Antinicknames & Vadim M

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@SaH4PoK, will be there be a version with just the LC and VC maps added to SA? No III and VC-specific weapons, cars, peds etc.? The III\VC content looks jarring in SA, to say the least, there's a noticeable difference in the art-style.

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23 hours ago, H-G said:

@SaH4PoK, will be there be a version with just the LC and VC maps added to SA? No III and VC-specific weapons, cars, peds etc.? The III\VC content looks jarring in SA, to say the least, there's a noticeable difference in the art-style.

It's a big and complicated question, but in general I thought I should bring these maps and content to San Andreas style first, and then we'll see from there. In my understanding Vice City, San Andreas and Liberty City Stories are the closest in style because they were formed from close components and general style (textures, models). If you mean scripts and missions, the scripts of past parts are completely different and the code of San Andreas missions has become much better and optimized in many ways, so the scripts 100% need a total rework and in places I do it where it is easy, so far.

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2 hours ago, SaH4PoK said:

It's a big and complicated question, but in general I thought I should bring these maps and content to San Andreas style first, and then we'll see from there. In my understanding Vice City, San Andreas and Liberty City Stories are the closest in style because they were formed from close components and general style (textures, models). If you mean scripts and missions, the scripts of past parts are completely different and the code of San Andreas missions has become much better and optimized in many ways, so the scripts 100% need a total rework and in places I do it where it is easy, so far.

No, I'm actually saying that I'm looking forward to a separate version of the mod that ONLY adds the LC and VC maps to the vanilla SA and nothing else from III and VC.

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6 hours ago, H-G said:

No, I'm actually saying that I'm looking forward to a separate version of the mod that ONLY adds the LC and VC maps to the vanilla SA and nothing else from III and VC.

I was planning to do 3 variations of the build delivery with different styles: Vanilla SA, III/VC Style and (my own) sa++ way (something balanced between SA, VC, Stories at the same time). For example it will affect the style of car models (color scheme) and amount of content in general. But.. we'll see. 

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Updated Classic: Advanced. Testing some build for using PC textures and Widescreen things (+HQ frontend) based on sa++ and Updated Classic Uncover (https://gtaforums.com/topic/998882-updated-classic-uncover-iiivcsa/) + restored some of weapon pickups from the dev comments (Screwdrivers, Hammers) from pre-release + some vehicles models fixes, VC-Style of engines sounds for cars restored

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Some small things like filling the empty map places with a new pickups, car generators (parking places) and adding a basketb.sc (Basket rings and places) into San Fierro
 

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Recently some work has been done on the development of radio stations and playlist selection, which is based on 3-4 years of experience in radio selection and ARSA service, only two radio stations have passed the early stage and they will have to pass the final processing. The radio stations are still not finalized and raw.
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First versions of the playlists will be available on Spotify and the first radio test files was compiled based on Vice City DJ's voiceover
Test (VERY EARLY)
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