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universetwisters
3 hours ago, Warhawk8492 said:

Carcer City could be Detroit


I thought Carcer would be some city in Ohio (Columbus?) based on one of the leaked V maps from the source code leaks that lists the real life counterparts for the streets ingame

 

OT - Cottonmouth would me Mobile, Alabama 

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On 2/16/2024 at 8:26 PM, universetwisters said:


I thought Carcer would be some city in Ohio (Columbus?) based on one of the leaked V maps from the source code leaks that lists the real life counterparts for the streets ingame

 

OT - Cottonmouth would me Mobile, Alabama 

I still think Carcer City is Philly because it’s a similar distance to Liberty City in the GTA 4 travel stats as Philly to NYC. You also hear that Carcer is near Liberty.

 

Cottonmouth makes sense as either Mobile or NOLA, or both. It would be cool to see a city in the real Deep South (Vice City/Miami is more Caribbean than Southern).

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universetwisters
1 hour ago, The Journey said:

I still think Carcer City is Philly because it’s a similar distance to Liberty City in the GTA 4 travel stats as Philly to NYC. You also hear that Carcer is near Liberty.


I remember many years ago discrediting that in a thread because it got the stats between earth and mars horrendously wrong or something like that and, as such, shouldn’t be cited as a form of measurement 

WhitetailDeer

Detroit could (have) become Declasse. Why ? Because :

-Obviously, due to the name of the fictional car manufacturer, since Detroit is known as the "Motor City"

-According to the wiki, Declasse is a reference to the French word "déclassé" (reduced to a lower status), thus standing as a nod to Detroit's urban decay.

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26 minutes ago, WhitetailDeer said:

Detroit could (have) become Declasse. Why ? Because :

-Obviously, due to the name of the fictional car manufacturer, since Detroit is known as the "Motor City"

-According to the wiki, Declasse is a reference to the French word "déclassé" (reduced to a lower status), thus standing as a nod to Detroit's urban decay.

I like it, wonder what Chicago would be it’s probably the hardest to come up with.

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universetwisters
1 hour ago, WhitetailDeer said:

Detroit could (have) become Declasse. Why ? Because :

-Obviously, due to the name of the fictional car manufacturer, since Detroit is known as the "Motor City"

-According to the wiki, Declasse is a reference to the French word "déclassé" (reduced to a lower status), thus standing as a nod to Detroit's urban decay.

 

I think this is hell of a stretch. Not only that but there's already Pontiac, Michigan.

 

I mean they're named after the native American tribe rather than the car brand but still

39 minutes ago, universetwisters said:

 

I think this is hell of a stretch. Not only that but there's already Pontiac, Michigan.

 

I mean they're named after the native American tribe rather than the car brand but still

I don’t think the GTA Universe version of Detroit being named after a car brand (or the car brand named after the city in-universe) is far fetched at all. Pontiac would be called Imponte.

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universetwisters
2 minutes ago, The Journey said:

I don’t think the GTA Universe version of Detroit being named after a car brand (or the car brand named after the city in-universe) is far fetched at all. Pontiac would be called Imponte.


I literally said that Pontiac is named after the native american tribe rather than the car brand

 

Let me put it this way; is there a car brand named Detroit? Why would gtaverse Detroit be named after a car brand if Detroit isn't?

13 minutes ago, universetwisters said:


I literally said that Pontiac is named after the native american tribe rather than the car brand

 

Let me put it this way; is there a car brand named Detroit? Why would gtaverse Detroit be named after a car brand if Detroit isn't?

It doesn’t really matter if it isn’t in real life, the GTA Universe uses creative liberty, it’s why they go with different names in the first place.

 

Is Vice City named after a native tribe?

Is Liberty City named after a place in England?

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universetwisters
2 minutes ago, The Journey said:

Is Vice City named after a native tribe?

Is Liberty City named after a place in England?

 

If you watch the history of Liberty City I'm sure it says how it changed from New Rotterdam to Liberty City and idk maybe they'll make up a reason why Vice City is named the way it is.


Also consider that Detroit was founded in 1701. Assuming Declasse's history mirrors that of Chevrolet's, Chevrolet was founded in 1911 

31 minutes ago, universetwisters said:

 

If you watch the history of Liberty City I'm sure it says how it changed from New Rotterdam to Liberty City and idk maybe they'll make up a reason why Vice City is named the way it is.


Also consider that Detroit was founded in 1701. Assuming Declasse's history mirrors that of Chevrolet's, Chevrolet was founded in 1911 

That’s what I’m saying though, the car brand Pontiac in real life was named after the city in Michigan, so they could change it a bit and have the car brand Declasse named after the city which is GTA Detroit.

 

So Declasse City would be founded in 1701, and the car brand named after the city in 1911. Im not saying the city would be named after the car, but the other way around.

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universetwisters
1 hour ago, The Journey said:

That’s what I’m saying though, the car brand Pontiac in real life was named after the city in Michigan, so they could change it a bit and have the car brand Declasse named after the city which is GTA Detroit.

 

So Declasse City would be founded in 1701, and the car brand named after the city in 1911. Im not saying the city would be named after the car, but the other way around.

 

Ooooooh okay I gotcha

TaylorSwiftDies2038

THE WEST COAST IN GTA UNIVERSE:

 

STATES:

* California and Nevada - San Andreas. My personal head-canon has the two states existing as one, and the United States only has 49 states, or maybe some other state got cut into two :kekw:.

* Washington - Madison.

* Oregon - Cascadia.

 

SAN ANDREAS CITIES:

* Orange - Apple

* San Bernardino - San Bernal

* Riverside - Canyonview

* San Diego - San Novarro

* Anaheim - Wilhelm

* Santa Ana - Iturbide

* Burbank/Glendale - Sudbury

Sacramento - Santamento

* Oakland - Oakfield

* San Jose - San Jorge

* Modesto - DePodesta

* Stockton - Malone

* Redding - Reddick

* Mendocino - Cappuccino

 

OTHER CITIES:

* Seattle - Seawall

* Olympia - Euboea

* Portland - Peach Creek

* Salem - Roanoke

Henderson - Jackson

Reno - Garant

* Lake Tahoe - Lake Dangle

 

EAST COAST CITIES:

* Boston - Empire Bay

* Albany - Darnley

* Buffalo - Hickock

* Rochester - Winchester

* Philadelphia - Philanetia

* Baltimore - Ballymore

Some new names I made for my fan-made universe below. Many are references to classic literatures.

 

States

  • Tequesta - Florida (still prefer this name instead of Leonida tbh)
  • Inouk - Illinois
  • Nicolet - Wisconsin
  • Muscogen - Michigan
  • Hoosier - Indiana
  • Niutachi - Missouri
  • Faulkner - Missisippi
  • Rosasharn - Oklahoma
  • Smithsonia - Washington DC (Mere Capital City is too bland for me)

Counties

  • Baker County - Cook County, Illinois
  • Goodall County - Various counties in west Michigan e.g. Ottawa and Muskegon
  • Beauchamp County - Wayne County, Michigan

Cities

  • Brannigan - Chicago
  • Capone - Cicero
  • Liverpool - Gary, Indiana
  • Millioke - Milwaukee
  • Pendergast - Kansas City
  • St. Verne - St. Louis
  • Mohany - Albany, New York
  • Argonaut - Atalanta
  • Fort Patridge - Fort Lauderdale
  • Casa Verde - Boca Raton
  • Calaboose Beach - West Palm Beach
  • Tocobaga - Tampa
  • Petograd - St. Petersburg, Florida
  • Pozzuoli - Naples, Florida
  • Tannahaicca - Tallahassee
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May as well post a few examples of ideas from the project I'm working on:

 

  • Florida - Fuentuda
  • A portmanteau of "La Fuente de la Juventud Eterna", aka The Fountain of Eternal Youth. Not only does La Fuentuda feel waaaay more appropriate than "Leonida" (which I hate, honestly) and keeps the first and last letters in the name, but it makes the two letter state abbreviation "F.U." (as in "F*ck You🖕") ... and that feels very appropriate! :kekw:

 

  • Orlando - Arlandy or Othello
  • Arlandy is just Orlando with the first and last letters changed, so not very original (though it has a nice ring to it). As for Othello...
Spoiler

The popular story is that Orlando was named after a soldier who was killed in an native attack during the Seminole Wars near present day Lake Eola. However, the reality is that when the name was changed from the original Jurnigan, the judge of the area was a big Shakespeare fan. One of the streets in the city is named "Rosalind", which was one of the main characters from the Shakespere comedy "As You Like It". And her love interest in the story was named ... that's right, Orlando. So Othello brings the name back to the city's Shakespearean origin.

 

  • Lake Eola Park - Lake Jurnigan Park
  • Jurnigan was Orlando's original name, which was named after the town's founders, Isaac and Aaron Jurnigan. (Founded as a fort town, part of Fort Gaitlin.)

 

  • Saint Augustine - San Tervás
  • Named after Ponce De Leon's home of Santervás De Campos. Maybe a fictitious patron saint of conquest or something!

 

  • Fort Matanzas - Castillo de Muertos
  • Matanzas is Spanish for "Slaughter" - Fort Matanzas and the Matanzas River was named after the Spanish discovered French settlers who'd landed south of St. Augustine; so they sent a battalion of soldiers down there and kill them all. So they proceeded to name the river (and later the fort) after the slaughter they performed against the French - but on the plus side, it saved our state from having any places or towns named using their rancid, bogus language. :kekw:

 

  • Melbourne - Morrison
  • Named after Jim Morrison of The Doors, a Floridian born in Melbourne.

 

  •  The St. John's River - The Petty River
  • Named after Tom Petty, a Floridian born in Gainesville.

 

  •  [Various In-Game Highway] - Highway 42 / The Robert Norman Ross Memorial Highway
  • Like the real-life Highway 192 / The Irlo Bronson Memorial Highway, this is named after Floridian and Daytona Beach native Bob Ross, the beloved soft-spoken TV painter; born in 1942 (hence the number).

 

  • Apopka - Apache
  • Mostly chosen for the similarity of the name. Fun fact, Apopka is based on the Seminole word "Ahapapka" meaning "potato eating people", used to describe the people who settled there.

 

  • Winter Park - Blizzard Haven
  • An upscale town founded and named to attract late-1800's northern tourists with the prospect of spending their winters in a sunny land free from snow (and the problems that come with it) way down in the segregated south. (Which, judging by the New York Draft Riots of 1863, may actually be one of the reasons they came down here...) One of many real-life towns named in this manner, see also: Winter Garden, Winter Haven and Frostproof.

 

  • Tampa - Narvaez
  • Named after a conquistador who landed in the Tampa Bay region on an ultimately doomed expedition of what was supposed to be Mexico. (Florida is kind of like Spain's Vietnam. Going to the mountainous areas of South America and conquering established civilizations? No problem! But the swampy flatlands of Florida? Barely made any headway!)

 

  • Tampa Bay - Gaspar Bay
  • Named after the legendary (as in fictional) pirate, Jose Gaspar, who supposedly sailed around the waters of Florida; the namesake of the Gasparilla event that takes place in Tampa Bay every year. Quite a fun little event - in its current incarnation, people dress like pirates, ride in a boat modeled to look like a classic 1700's ship firing "cannons", "storm" the city of Tampa and "kidnap" the mayor in order to "steal" the key to the city! And people say America and Florida have no culture! 😜

I do love this state.

 

And a few ideas for other states, in no particular order:

  • Arizona - Jicarilla
  • Named after the Jicarilla Reservation in Arizona

 

  • New Mexico - Hualapai
  • Named after the Hualapai Reservation in N.M.

 

  • Alabama - Coushatta
  • Named after a tribe native to the state

 

  • Georgia - Okefenofkee
  • Named after the Okefenofekee National Wildlife Refuge at the Georgia/Florida border

 

  • Massachusetts - Wampanoag
  • Named after a tribe native to the state

 

  • Mississippi - Homochitto
  • Named after a tribe native to the state

 

  • Kansas - Potowatomi
  • Named after a tribe native to the state

 

  • Minnesota - Wenesoga
  • Although the Wenesoga tribe were native to present day Mississppi, the name has a nice similarity to Minnesota

 

  • Oregon - Wollowa
  • Named after the Wollowa Mountains and the Wollowa-Whitman National Forest in Oregon

 

  • Washington State - Sequoia
  • Named after the sequoia trees found in Washington State and throughout the west coast area

 

  • New Hampshire - New Devon
  • Named after a different county in England, UK

 

  • Vermont - New Aunis
  • Named after the historic Aunis province in France, near the birthplace of explorer Samuel de Champlain, the first European to discover what is now Vermont.

 

  • Illinois - Lincoln State
  • Named after Abraham Lincoln, who moved to the state and became a legislator and representative

 

  • Pennsylvania - Franklin State
  • Named after founding father Benjamin Franklin. Though born in Massachusetts, most of his accomplishments were made in the Pennsylvania Colony. It's also worth noting is that there were multiple attempts in the past to name a state after Mr. Franklin, and the state where the Declaration of Independence was signed feels appropriate.
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GrudgefromSanAndreas

A lil bit of Europe:

 

Paris becomes Hector (Greek mythology reference)

Vienna becomes Schnitz (Wiener Schnitzel)

Berlin becomes Boxitz (Berlinetta is a type of coupe, Boxer is a type of engine, there is a car called Ferrari Berlinetta Boxer)

11 hours ago, GrudgefromSanAndreas said:

A lil bit of Europe:

 

Paris becomes Hector (Greek mythology reference)

Vienna becomes Schnitz (Wiener Schnitzel)

Berlin becomes Boxitz (Berlinetta is a type of coupe, Boxer is a type of engine, there is a car called Ferrari Berlinetta Boxer)

Hamburg Germany becomes Bratwurst Germany. 'cause German food.

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Liberty, New York is New York, Liberty.

 

Oakland, California should be Easter, San Andreas. Gotta be a reason it’s called Easter Bay instead of San Fierro Bay.

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I myself referred to an Oakland equivalent as Spruceville. But otherwise I had some Alderney townships:

 

Linden - Heather -> after a different plant.

Guttenberg - Bromberg -> Bromberg is the German name for the Polish city Bydgoszcz which is literally Polish Alderney lol

Hackensack - New Bimshire -> I had some creative reference to this but I forgot it. Something referring to Hackensack's backstory

Camden - Mile End -> after a different London borough

 

And because why not, some headcanons for Polish cities:

Kraków - Lechów

Wrocław - Przemysł

Toruń - Odyń

Włocławek - Przemysławek

 

@universetwisters pointed out to me that GTA 4 travel stats were inaccurate, so ima change my opinion about Carcer City and say it’s Chicago instead of Philly, with some Cleveland influence too (the flaming river). My reasons:

 

It’s in the industrial rust-belt heartland of America just like Carcer’s advertisements say.

 

“Carcyria” (Chiraq) is the most dangerous city in America, it even makes Liberty City look safe.

 

Michael has his roots in Carcer City’s outskirts, Ned Luke is from Chicago’s outskirts (Steven Ogg/Trevor are both from Canada and Solo/Franklin are both from LA/LS).

 

I saw somewhere R* was scouting Chicago a couple years ago (but it could be fake).

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Tikal The Whimsicott

Is Nueva Siena a good name for the GTA equivalent of San Bernardino? I got the idea from Saint Bernadine's birthplace the Republic of Siena. I also came up with the name Ponte Pietra for the nearby city Rialto. It's named after a bridge in the inland city of Verona, Italy, and since Rialto is in the Inland Empire I thought it would fit. It's also a reference to Stephen King's Christine as there is a fictional city in Christine called Rockbridge and Ponte Pietra translates to Stone Bridge. It's also a call back to Verona Beach in San Andreas if that makes any sense. I've also thought about calling the Redland's equivalent Cahuilla after the tribe that lived in that area and Loma Linda's Mound-Ton sort of as a play on how an area of Loma Linda was formerly called Mound City and how someone with an exaggerated Spanish accent would pronounce mountain. Though to be honest I don't know if it's a good name. Hopefully, I come up with a better name eventually. I still need to come up with names for other cities like Fontana. I thought about naming Fontana's equivalent Steel Springs because of the former Kaiser Steel Plant, but I don't think that name's good. Sorry if rambled on too much. 

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