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12 minutes ago, Tez2 said:

I would still expect a title update. Just instead of the usual two major DLCs we're used to, we may receive a smaller one consisting of mostly QoL and the other one being the major DLC we're used to.

This Will make much sense, so we can expect a summer DLC similar to Mercenaries (mostly fixes for chop shop) with minimal content and maybe the December DLC focused on Michael, the conclusión of Cliffford/Chilliad Mystery and such. Iam pretty sure they Will use that facility teased in the past halloween 🎃 event.

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On 12/16/2023 at 6:21 PM, Tez2 said:

Rockstar's plan for the new year is to place GTAO on the back burner due to more focus on VI. So we may not even receive a second update.

It went without saying - next year will be the last. I've gone for the idea that next year would see a conclusion to a reworked Chilliad Mystery, and a Michael "Contract".

 

If an early 2025 release window is already accomodating for the usual 6/8 month delay R* have always had with major releases since IV - then a December '24 DLC was raising the question of how would that play out in terms of dripfeed? Would they have just disregarded a dripfeed and just pre-2016, release the entire DLC day one? On the other hand, ditching a Winter DLC does makes you wonder how would T2 and the investors take that idea? When it comes to this kind of Investor/Mega-Corpo mindset, they wouldn't even feel 1/1000th insulted if you told them their mother's retirement plan is a Vegas wedding, when compared to telling them "there'll be an intentional lull this quarter".

 

If all we get is 1 DLC, then I'm thinking; Michael in the Summer, with any conclusion to Chilliad in that dripfeed for Halloween (just look at Chop Shop's dripfeed, there's a mission strand with cutscenes that have nothing to do with the Chop Shop). After that, if we're really lucky, December is a QoL/Sandbox-Only update; Ill-Gotten Gains 3.

 

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18 minutes ago, Tez2 said:

I would still expect a title update. Just instead of the usual two major DLCs we're used to, we may receive a smaller one consisting of mostly QoL and the other one being the major DLC we're used to.

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16 minutes ago, Tez2 said:

I would still expect a title update. Just instead of the usual two major DLCs we're used to, we may receive a smaller one consisting of mostly QoL and the other one being the major DLC we're used to.

So we will only get max 1.5 DLC sized update (Same size like Tuners+SAM or Drug Wars + SAM sized update) we will get. Vehicles (Tuner/Drift class and Imani with normal cars), a weapon and some basic missions to play with different contacts.

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1 hour ago, CUTS3R said:

Agreed except on the bug fixes part.
Look at RDO

I mean hardly comparable is it? The playerbase on one is probably 100x bigger than the other, and GTAO does bring in money and will for a long time. :p There'll definitely be maintenance updates for a long time.

 

1 hour ago, Tez2 said:

I would still expect a title update. Just instead of the usual two major DLCs we're used to, we may receive a smaller one consisting of mostly QoL and the other one being the major DLC we're used to.

Even then I could see another Criminal Enterprises situation - we get content and some "story"-like missions, nothing too complex, but loads of QoL stuff.

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Just a reminder that any lore unresolved mystery technically belongs to the online timeline, since GTAV were never updated and it's a self contained story. And a Michael 'epilogue' would be the perfect bait to boost sales for GTAVI Online. 

 

So it's not impossible that we help Michael in Vice City to uncover a conspiracy lead by Vinewood elites and the Leonidan space agency and finally solve the Mount Chilliad Mystery. 

We could even have a mission finale on the Mount itself, just like CJ did a quick visit to Liberty City. 

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5 hours ago, REVENGE777 said:

Shutting down GTA online is not really an option. GTA O will go into a support mode with bug fixes here and there but it won’t just be completely shut down.

I mean - I believe what happened to the PS3 and XBOX360 Versions is a good example. It won’t be shut down, but there will be less and less patches. Perhaps bug fixes and some QoL stuff initially, but they‘ll limit it to security patches and eventually leave the game to die off, after VI Online releases.

 

I just hardly see an active playerbase playing the game once VI Online comes around which will improve on the experience in almost every single aspect. 

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1 hour ago, Spider-Vice said:

I mean hardly comparable is it? The playerbase on one is probably 100x bigger than the other, and GTAO does bring in money and will for a long time. :p There'll definitely be maintenance updates for a long time.

 

Even then I could see another Criminal Enterprises situation - we get content and some "story"-like missions, nothing too complex, but loads of QoL stuff.

It isn’t really compareable at the moment, but when you consider how the playerbase of Online will shrink after VI releases, it could be at some point. 

 

Also Red Dead Online isn’t all that small:

GTA V has 180K players on average on Steamcharts.

RDR2 has 40k players on average on Steam Charts.

 

And GTA is actively receiving updates at the moment, while Red Dead is not.

 

It all is a zero-sum game about capacity and priorities at the studios.

 

Priorities are likely as follows right now: 

GTA VI > GTA VI Online > GTA Online > Remasters & other titles > Red dead Online

 

After VI Online releases I believe it is likely that priorities would shift as follows:

 

GTA VI Online > GTA VI > Red Dead Online > GTA Online

 

 

 

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   I think there's a good chance they'll be doing small updates for both V and VI online for around a year or so, maybe more, with both games receiving most of the same cars and vehicles. Obviously, VI would get exclusive items to incentivise people to buy it (as if that's going to be a problem.) Essentially V Online would receive updates but nothing that furthers the game in anyway. 

   That, or V Online will receive vehicles that are already in the base version of VI. Like say, the Oceanic if we don't get it before then.

   I think they'll approach it with synergy. Sort of a "rising tide lifts all boat's" situation. I'm sure they'll make sure VI Online catches on before we start getting huge updates. Who knows, maybe they have something completely different planned for VI online. Maybe they add no Online mode whatsoever. 

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57 minutes ago, MisFit-138 said:

   I think there's a good chance they'll be doing small updates for both V and VI online for around a year or so, maybe more, with both games receiving most of the same cars and vehicles. Obviously, VI would get exclusive items to incentivise people to buy it (as if that's going to be a problem.) Essentially V Online would receive updates but nothing that furthers the game in anyway. 

   That, or V Online will receive vehicles that are already in the base version of VI. Like say, the Oceanic if we don't get it before then.

   I think they'll approach it with synergy. Sort of a "rising tide lifts all boat's" situation. I'm sure they'll make sure VI Online catches on before we start getting huge updates. Who knows, maybe they have something completely different planned for VI online.

 

from a business standpoint, if they want GTA VI online to be successful (which they very much do) they cannot continue to actively support GTA V Online with updated content AND do the same for the newest title of the same series. It’s a waste of resources and it’s a conflict of interest to their new online counterpart. How do you incentivize people to play your new online game that will likely have less content at launch than the previous version currently does when you’re still adding content to the old game? It doesn’t make sense, there’s no “synergy” to be had. 

 

57 minutes ago, MisFit-138 said:
57 minutes ago, MisFit-138 said:

Maybe they add no Online mode whatsoever. 

 


Not possible. The most anticipated game of all time that’s already breaking records 2 years before release having no online component that they can build to be expanded upon indefinitely and monetize to no end due to its massive initial success isn’t thinking realistically at this point. Why continue updating the same xbox360 spaghetti code that’s limited in scope of what can and can’t be added when they can do something new with a game they built from the ground up to be compatible with massive expansions and unlimited potential?

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PC players are 1 reason to keep updating the game, old gen consoles players too,  SO far they decided not to cut support despite poor Performance. And i assume new gen consoles players with all the good stuff they received plus GTA+ members Will continue to enjoy the game while waiting for VI.

GTA VI is coming somewhere in 2025...maybe March or beyond if a delay is needed.

No matter how many records GTA VI may have or how anticipated of a game is PC players Will not have access until 1 year after release or more and a Big chunk of old gen user maybe Will not be able to upgrade to new gen. 

Of course GTA VI is the first priority of Rockstar and it's logical. 

I don't SEE any problem with GTA V online getting a small summer DLC and a Big one in December while GTA VI Will not be released still...

Of course after GTA VI release, GTA V online Will enter maintenance mode and Million of persons Will be more than happy.

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3 hours ago, REVENGE777 said:

 

 


Why continue updating the same xbox360 spaghetti code that’s limited in scope of what can and can’t be added when they can do something new with a game they built from the ground up to be compatible with massive expansions and unlimited potential?

 Because despite all of that, millions of people will still be playing V online for quite awhile. Not everybody has upgraded their systems and not everybody will be able to by the time VI comes out. VI will be a smash hit no doubt, but just assuming it will overnight replace 10 years of customer building is absurd. You don't put all your eggs in one basket, and you don't count your eggs before they hatch. That's millions of shark card purchasers they would be cutting off. VI literally only on two systems. 

   It's also not like having small updates for V will hinder them in anyway seeing as they're supporting it right now while simultaneously building 6. 

  It's also not like they've never cross promoted before, so I don't know why you're coming at the idea like I'm trying to sell you hot ice.

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2 hours ago, MisFit-138 said:

 Because despite all of that, millions of people will still be playing V online for quite awhile. Not everybody has upgraded their systems and not everybody will be able to by the time VI comes out. VI will be a smash hit no doubt, but just assuming it will overnight replace 10 years of customer building is absurd. You don't put all your eggs in one basket, and you don't count your eggs before they hatch. That's millions of shark card purchasers they would be cutting off. VI literally only on two systems. 

   It's also not like having small updates for V will hinder them in anyway seeing as they're supporting it right now while simultaneously building 6. 

  It's also not like they've never cross promoted before, so I don't know why you're coming at the idea like I'm trying to sell you hot ice.

Because maintaining GTA V Online after VI releases is a bad idea all the way around. There’s a lot of negative implications that can come from not letting go of the old game so the new one can flourish. imagine a world where GTA VI online doesn’t flourish and gets the red dead online treatment and GTA V online continues to receive updates instead? Obviously that wouldn’t happen but that’s nightmare fuel for sure. As it currently stands, I’m doubtful that GTA V and GTA VI can have online components that can peacefully exist, much less “synergize.” truthfully, if it comes down to it, sacrificing GTA V online for GTA VI online to fully take its place it’s the best decision long term.

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9 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

I mean hardly comparable is it? 

It should be comparable, its one of their ongoing games still. Even if one has a much bigger playerbase than the other it doesnt justify leaving bugs around especially some of the very annoying ones if the game is still being played heavily, which every time i do even if its few and far between right now still has full lobbies regardless of the time of day.


When it comes to GTAO one thing they need to do before it truly goes in maintenance mode is fix some of the vehicles bugs. handling too on some of them or hitboxes issues. Some cars not having a plate option for whatever reason, headlight/tailights issues, off centered 1st person camera or wheel position, hands not touching some cars steering wheels all that. I cant really think of bigger bugs right now for the game in general but if there is some those need to go too. 

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3 hours ago, CUTS3R said:

headlight/tailights issues,

unlikely for most of them given the OG heist kuruma has mismodeled/duplicated parts for the taillights

 

and all the cars with candle headlights that would only take a bit to fix.

 

If they're gonna fix anything. Start with the completely restoring tuners and fixing the viseris the way they said they did instead of a sh*tty bandaid

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On 12/16/2023 at 6:21 PM, Tez2 said:

Rockstar's plan for the new year is to place GTAO on the back burner due to more focus on VI. So we may not even receive a second update two major updates like Summer & Winter DLCs, but instead one big update and a smaller one consisting of QoL.

Tbh I would prefer that if the “big update” is good, that way they keep the QoL features in a separate update from the big update, much prefer that 🔥

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Terminus has 2 types of PRB liveries

 

 

How did this reply end up here

 

.. was supposed to be in the prb liveries thread 

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32 minutes ago, Gtagamer24 said:

Tbh I would prefer that if the “big update” is good, that way they keep the QoL features in a separate update from the big update, much prefer that 🔥

Genuine question, but what QoL Features could they still add that do not relate to the core game mechanics?

 

In my opinion GTA Onlines biggest issue right now are the outdated and archaic character controls (picking things up or walking through the Nightclub can be so damn clunky)

And I highly doubt they‘re going to be able to fix that, given that they didn’t with E&E.

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53 minutes ago, Restart2020Late2025 said:

Genuine question, but what QoL Features could they still add that do not relate to the core game mechanics?

 

In my opinion GTA Onlines biggest issue right now are the outdated and archaic character controls (picking things up or walking through the Nightclub can be so damn clunky)

And I highly doubt they‘re going to be able to fix that, given that they didn’t with E&E.

forced camera views in interiors making you have to change them back

 

kosatka, nightclub, casino (but not in adv mode, that interior works with all cameras), chop shop, etc.

oh and a way to turn our character in 3rd person view

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1 hour ago, needforsuv said:

unlikely for most of them given the OG heist kuruma has mismodeled/duplicated parts for the taillights

 

and all the cars with candle headlights that would only take a bit to fix.

 

If they're gonna fix anything. Start with the completely restoring tuners and fixing the viseris the way they said they did instead of a sh*tty bandaid

Well thats true but i was also saying it considering one brand new car has this issue i forgot its name the vapid suv has like a entire missing part in the right headlight.

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1 hour ago, agente0109 said:

A doubt. Do you send feedback to Rockstar about what you want in the next DLCs? 

 

https://www.rockstargames.com/gta-online/feedback

I did múltiple times, asking for a revamp of arena wars, Rockford Plaza Heist, and many more ideas for DLC content, and to make the eudora and broadway available for taxi work, wich they did recently but not because My feedback ofc.

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The new media stick is pretty neat. Sure, it uses old soundtracks but most of them are remixed and there is plenty of DJ dialogue. Franklin and Lamar even make a cameo

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Btw, on career tracking it shows to me items I can claim, is this a new feature? Don't remember it being there.. also I am on gen8

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15 minutes ago, Insoluble Fiber said:

Btw, on career tracking it shows to me items I can claim, is this a new feature? Don't remember it being there.. also I am on gen8

It must be some kinda glitched message prompt because career tracking is gen9 exclusive afaik

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19 minutes ago, Insoluble Fiber said:

Btw, on career tracking it shows to me items I can claim, is this a new feature? Don't remember it being there.. also I am on gen8

Some players Logged on socialclub on PC and saw the career progress thingy, like is functional at least to track the stats, but on PC Will still not have it (gen9 exclusive). Also people Saw this on PS4 and Xbox one..it was discussed in the E&E PC thread...

Pages 72-73...

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3 minutes ago, Crateman said:

Some players Logged on socialclub on PC and can see the career progress, like is functional at least to track the stats, but on PC Will still not have it (gen9 exclusive). Also people Saw this on PS4 and Xbox one..it was discussed in the E&E PC thread...

Pages 72-73...

yeah i am aware of that, but i just noticed now the "claim now" feature. Was it there before?

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1 minute ago, Insoluble Fiber said:

yeah i am aware of that, but i just noticed now the "claim now" feature. Was it there before?

Sorry i did not read correctly the part of "claim now"...no idea right now if that is something new or not...

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This DLC is ok, very ok, sucks you cant replay missions until new week which is weird choice, if they wanted to put cooldown they could do 1real day cooldown on each, that wouldn't be super bad i think but whole week? :sadkek:
Yusuf dont wants us to steal more so chop shop is earning more money? is he stupid? :kekw:

But im kinda scared with what they come up to the summer, maybe arena war rework? imagine events like monster jam or something like that, that could be cool

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2 hours ago, Insoluble Fiber said:

The new media stick is pretty neat. Sure, it uses old soundtracks but most of them are remixed and there is plenty of DJ dialogue. Franklin and Lamar even make a cameo

Yea it was better than I thought it would be for sure. I didn’t expect it to blend well together at all but dam funk did a pretty decent job 

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