Possibility of a Third protagonist, a Police Officer?

[Jammyd88]

Right so having watched the trailer several times now, this frame in which the Police are busting down a door, showing a first person view - could this be our first look at a Third protagonist? 

 

 

I appreciate it may be just from a cut scene however there is some method to my madness. 

 

If you think about the orginal idea of Grand Theft Auto, originally titled Race 'n' Chase, the synopsis was about controlling a Police Officer that pursued criminals. 

 

So my thoughts are, that possibly the story is broken into Two parts, clichéd as 'Cops & Robbers' 

 

Ps I love the fact its so realistic that R* have taken on their own bodycam logo but its a resemblance of the 'Axon' bodycam, same colour, UI positioning, time, date, unique ID etc such great attention to detail

 

What's your thoughts ladies and gents  

[Joe from Chi-raq]

2 minutes ago, Jammyd88 said:

Right so having watched the trailer several times now, this frame in which the Police are busting down a door, showing a first person view - could this be our first look at a Third protagonist? 

 

 

I appreciate it may be just from a cut scene however there is some method to my madness. 

 

If you think about the orginal idea of Grand Theft Auto, originally titled Race 'n' Chase, the synopsis was about controlling a Police Officer that pursued criminals. 

 

So my thoughts are, that possibly the story is broken into Two parts, clichéd as 'Cops & Robbers' 

 

Ps I love the fact its so realistic that R* have taken on their own bodycam logo but its a resemblance of the 'Axon' bodycam, same colour, UI positioning, time, date, unique ID etc such great attention to detail

 

What's your thoughts ladies and gents  

Woah i think you might be on to something....

think about it. Lucia (Bonnie) and Jason (Clyde) as the two robbers tryna escape the long arm of the law - bringing us to a 3rd character who is a cop character (GTA equivalent of Ranger Frank Hamer!?!?!?)

would be like those movies where you see the cop's POV on one side and the criminal's POV on the other side

[Vensis]

The POV as a cop would be an insane addition man. I hope you're right!

[HeySlickThatsMe]

Tbh I think all of scenes like this are just from ingame TV

[Monty Mantis]

I really doubt it personally, my guess is the bodycam footage is from a mission or an in-universe COPS parody. It's just a bit weird to play as an undercover cop when the player can go on mass shootings at will, ludonarrative dissonance and all. The series requires some suspension of belief but a cop character is a bit too far.

 

For a cop character to work they'd have to be in some sort of deepcover sh*t like The Departed or Donnie Brasco, and those stories really only work cause the stakes of infiltrating some organized crime network justify the crimes the cops might have to commit. Based on what we've seen, Lucia and Jason start off as small-time criminals robbing diners and liquor stores. It makes no sense to have a cop tagging along for sh*t like that, even if she's on parole.

Edited December 5, 2023 by Monty Mantis

[btecbill]

oooh like we see both sides of the story? although it seems unlikely, i like it.

Edited December 5, 2023 by btecbill

[Trafficante]

I don’t know how to feel about controlling a third character. A cop would be a nice addition, but I don’t think I’d enjoy >playing< as a third character again.

 

However, seeing the guy’s cutscenes where he’s following up on J&L, cracking heads and breaking bones — a real gruff guy — that I’d enjoy greatly. Always late, always behind but still chasing.

 

Just imagine you’re doing your thing & then you get an insight on how the law is trying to checkmate you. Sort of like Breaking Bad/The Sopranos where they show what Hank & Agent Harris are doing.

 

Just don’t give me a third character.

[walio674]

I say there is no third protagonist, but Jason is a former police officer or double agent (i.e. police and criminal at the same time)

[Guest]

I just can't see how a third character can work in a story that focuses on Jason-Lucia relationship. As a DLC protagonist, however, it can work.

[MekhiSkyline]

1 minute ago, wise_man said:

I just can't see how a third character can work in a story that focuses on Jason-Lucia relationship. As a DLC protagonist, however, it can work.

It would be nice if single player dlc came back for 6

[Crystal3lf]

There are many shots of the news/social media. I doubt it.

[mr_j]

Speculation, but imagine a third character being a custom made by the player, and the story can have a few turns after that.

 

Someone suggested somewhere that the moment from the trailer at 1:05 is a character creation scene, could be something could be nothing (or as part of the next Online).

[32dewdzsx]

this could be a fun sandbox mechanic. You start mayhem as Jason, and once you get wanted level you can switch to a police officer (bodycam footage first person view), while Jason gets controlled by AI and tries to escape.

[Ghost2001]

that shoot looks sick but I hope only with 2 characters I don't think they are good handling 3 characters at the same time with the story

[Jason]

I'm with others, I think a lot of the shots were from in-game TV and social media stuff, including this one.

[TwitchingMovie]

Yeah considering this is bodycam footage, I highly doubt that we'll actually be playing as a police officer. This is stuff you see on social media 

[Typhus]

You know what I think it is? I reckon that shot is from a mission where we can swat a rival criminal.

Swatting is a modern fad that is ripe for satire, and I could see Rockstar incorporating it into a mission - as it could hypothetically allow Jason and Lucia to dispose of a rival without getting their hands dirty.

[Fireguybro]

On 12/5/2023 at 9:50 AM, Jammyd88 said:

Right so having watched the trailer several times now, this frame in which the Police are busting down a door, showing a first person view - could this be our first look at a Third protagonist? 

 

 

I appreciate it may be just from a cut scene however there is some method to my madness. 

 

If you think about the orginal idea of Grand Theft Auto, originally titled Race 'n' Chase, the synopsis was about controlling a Police Officer that pursued criminals. 

 

So my thoughts are, that possibly the story is broken into Two parts, clichéd as 'Cops & Robbers' 

 

Ps I love the fact its so realistic that R* have taken on their own bodycam logo but its a resemblance of the 'Axon' bodycam, same colour, UI positioning, time, date, unique ID etc such great attention to detail

 

What's your thoughts ladies and gents  

Tbh idk how a police protagonist works in a GTA game. Its a game where you commit crimes and murder NPCs. The Police Officer would probably be fired or wanted if we did crimes. Rockstar could make it a new game and the protagonist a police officer, just an open world without committing crimes

[Retro_Causality]

Rockstar doesn’t tend to do these twists for characters. I doubt Jason is an undercover cop.... he’s just a regular low level criminal like Lucia 

[NewCrossGate]

On 12/5/2023 at 10:39 AM, HeySlickThatsMe said:

Tbh I think all of scenes like this are just from ingame TV

Yeah the clips are very similar to what we saw in that Criminal Underbelly in game tv show in V. There was a load of scenarios in that people thought were gameplay when it leaked but pretty much everything was just for that show. 

[44Orca]

There doesn't seem to be a third protagonist, they would have showed here in this trailer interacting with the other two (it had a lot of scenes) right? And even in the leaks we would have seen if there was.

1 hour ago, Fireguybro said:

Tbh idk how a police protagonist works in a GTA game. Its a game where you commit crimes and murder NPCs. The Police Officer would probably be fired or wanted if we did crimes. Rockstar could make it a new game and the protagonist a police officer, just an open world without committing crimes

A protagonist could just start as a police officer and become a criminal at the beginning of the game till the end

Wouldn't really be called Grand Theft Auto if they made one with a police officer all of it yeah. (they could do with a LA Noire sequel.)

 

Edited December 7, 2023 by 44Orca

[Agent Edward]

This is just an TV show or something and this idea of playing as a cop sucks in a game which lets you kill anyone at anytime.

[Exphon]

The idea of the player working both sides sounds cool, but wouldn't really work with the dynamic of the game. I'm 99.9% sure we've seen our only two protagonists, and that body-worn camera footage is probably part of in-game social media or television (as stated above by Jason).

[Tezdefanta]

Sleeping Dogs already did an undercover cop story, and you can literally throw innocent pedestrians into fuse boxes or drive vehicles through crowded streets in that game.

 

GTA has always been about the open-world and the story being two seperate entities that happen to co-exist with each other. GTA IV had a serious, grounded story about a war veteran suffering from PTSD, hunting down someone responsible for the deaths of his closest brother's in arms - but in the open-world you can steal an ambulance and do a sick jump off a ramp with it, yet both of these scenarios can exist with each other without breaking immersion.

 

Surprisingly, the GTA franchise has been around for such a long time, yet they haven't tackled a playable undercover cop going rogue - but it's not out of Rockstar's reach. I can see them working something out to get Jason's actions to fit the story and open-world, for sure.

 

[solitudinarian]

Anyone ever play The Getaway and The Getaway Black Monday? Hehe. They got flack for being "GTA wannabes" even though they werent similar at all, imo - but both those games had a a half and half game where you played one half as a cop and one half as the baddie, so you were bascially chasing around the shadow of yourself in a way. In Black Monday, you were more than just 2 characters, but both games had the same play style, in that you were basically playing both sides.

 

That screen in the middle of the first game, where it said something like "You are now playing as DC Frank Carter" , oh man, that feeling was something. And when you played it a few times, you really started noticing the details in the timeline of events, and just how close you were behind "yourself".

[Paper Mario]

i've been watching a lot of cop videos on youtube lately regarding all kinds of cases where they catch various people breaking the law and whatnot, and now reading this thread it makes me kinda want this in the sense of playing as a cop to catch NPCs breaking the law, if vigilante missions do not come back. it's fun to be the crook, but sometimes also fun to catch the baddies, heheh

[gta111]

i hope not

[Agent Edward]

Not this again, we already covered how this theory doesn't make sense, considering the freedom that GTA games gives us by allowing us to rob and kill freely, among other things.