New GTA Online Update Coming this December

[PhPmayan]

This could be an actual good update! Good to see another returning character!

[Aquamaniac]

13 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

Yep, GTA week, GTA-related DLC (as in, literally grand theft auto)  

 

I guess nobody expected this though? I like the theme of the DLC, scrap yard is an interesting property, I wish it had a workshop for trucks/semis which I already hoped for Drug Wars. 

[Below_Mediocre]

2 minutes ago, Pankypops said:

If you ignore mobile, PC is the largest gaming platform.

You'd think all these would make them prioritize PC even more for Day 1 release/parity? Only they stand to profit from such. It's not like they can even hold a 'grudge' against us because of FiveM, especially since they own it now. If anything, the parity would only benefit FiveM/RageMP players and hence them indirectly for the engagement/copies sold needed to access them.
 

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I suppose so- more serious gamers tend to gravitate towards PC, but the casual demographic seems to enjoy consoles a lot more, probably because of the relative inexpensiveness of console gaming. Regardless, the lack of love for PC that Rockstar has been giving GTAO (and even singleplayer, since it didn't get the E&E graphics update) makes me worried for the GTA6/GTA6O PC release.

[Pankypops]

1 minute ago, CUTS3R said:

Most likely. And they make enough money with everything else that they have assessed you a minimal loss in revenue. Otherwise the investors would have cried about it.

Idk how anyone can assess a $38.2 billion revenue (last year alone) market as "minimal loss". Must be some narrow minded sh*t going on, along with excess of interns in the Online team resulting in shallow updates.

[Below_Mediocre]

1 minute ago, Pankypops said:

Idk how anyone can assess a $38.2 billion revenue (last year alone) market as "minimal loss". Must be some narrow minded sh*t going on, along with excess of interns in the Online team resulting in shallow updates.

Imagine if Rockstar invested in actual servers for GTAO and released E&E for PC. Would I be angry about it? Yes, of course, the greedy bludgers. But I'd still buy it because I want the new RT tech and QOL updates. It just saddens me that the objectively superior gaming platform is left in the dust so much from one of the greatest dev groups of all time.

[CUTS3R]

9 minutes ago, Pankypops said:

Idk how anyone can assess a $38.2 billion revenue (last year alone) market as "minimal loss". Must be some narrow minded sh*t going on, along with excess of interns in the Online team resulting in shallow updates.

Hey man you can argue all you want, at the end of the day its Take2 and R* who has deemed you expandable not me. Im just telling it how it is. We know they have their reason for doing this and they are very money hungry with everything. If they are willing to pass on some money without hurting their projected bottom line its pretty easy to deduce why.

Don't get me wrong it absolutely suck that you guys miss on content but there is absolutely a financial aspect in their decision.

Edited December 1, 2023 by CUTS3R

[Barrtek]

Mrs. Baker when the Casino was robbed a billion times and if that wasn't enough, apparently Yusuf Amir wants to start stealing casino cars to sell them

[Shahar654]

Did someone suggest the P90? I miss that gun. I mean it just makes sense that Yusuf would also bring his guns.

[Below_Mediocre]

3 minutes ago, CUTS3R said:

Hey man you can argue all you want, at the end of the day its Take2 and R* who has deemed you expandable not me. Im just telling it how it is. We know they have their reason for doing this and they are very money hungry with everything. If they are willing to pass on some money without hurting their projected bottom lin its pretty easy to deduce why.

Don't get me wrong it absolutely suck that you guys miss on some content.

Here's hoping the same doesn't happen for GTA 6. They've at least acknowledged RT tech with E&E and I really hope we get some sort of Global Illumination lighting techniques in GTA 6. But of course that requires severe optimisation on console and decent implementation on PC... I guess what I'm trying to say is that Rockstar need to acknowledge their PC playerbase and give them some unique features. Look at Cyberpunk for example, comes out on PS5/XSX and looks great, but on PC it gets full path tracing because of the powerful hardware.

[CUTS3R]

3 minutes ago, Shahar654 said:

Did someone suggest the P90? I miss that gun. I mean it just makes sense that Yusuf would also bring his guns.

I want a proper P90 but sadly the assault SMG is GTA5 version of it... 

[Below_Mediocre]

1 minute ago, CUTS3R said:

I want a proper P90 but sadly the assault SMG is GTA5 version of it... 

On the bright side it looks like in GTA 6 we're getting some fairly accurate modern weaponry, not like the weird smorgasbord of combined arms we got in GTA 5. Who ever greenlit the Carbine? 

[gamerMK2]

Degenerate Zelnick is missing revenue 10x that it is now. Nobody sane buys shark cards with thousands of various options to make tons of money in no time by following youtube guides or restarting router at heist final. Nobody sane invites their friends to play in such cancerous environment filled with griefers abusing disbalanced weapons or god mod glitches. I'm not even mentioning PC now. All of this could've been solved with simple dedicated servers, any other game company can easily afford, but not multibillion corporation huh? Can't afford community manager either, imagine that. Or they just do this on purpose to collect suffering from anyone who plays this game.

[Below_Mediocre]

1 minute ago, gamerMK2 said:

Degenerate Zelnick is missing revenue 10x that it is now. Nobody sane buys shark cards with thousands of various options to make tons of money in no time by following youtube guides or restarting router at heist final. Nobody sane invites their friends to play in such cancerous environment filled with griefers abusing disbalanced weapons or god mod glitches. I'm not even mentioning PC now. All of this could've been solved with simple dedicated servers, any other game company can easily afford, but not multibillion corporation huh? Can't afford community manager either, imagine that. Or they just do this on purpose to collect suffering from anyone who plays this game.

It's a dystopian world we live in when the guy who owns billions of dollars of assets can't afford a few devs to work on porting content and dedicated servers like every other AAA game in existence

[Pankypops]

22 minutes ago, CUTS3R said:

Hey man you can argue all you want, at the end of the day its Take2 and R* who has deemed you expandable not me. Im just telling it how it is. We know they have their reason for doing this and they are very money hungry with everything. If they are willing to pass on some money without hurting their projected bottom line its pretty easy to deduce why.

Don't get me wrong it absolutely suck that you guys miss on content but there is absolutely a financial aspect in their decision.

Here's the thing. It makes no business sense to deem us as third rate and leave us out to dry, at all.

 

A money hungry corporate, and one as smart and conniving as Take 2, would try to cash in on this large a market for all the money it's worth. Plenty of other companies are doing the same while R*/T2 are actively missing out. GTA-V is almost always in Top Sellers on Steam, so they're definitely making $$$ on copies sold most probably for FiveM (which is still a first party property now). Even a tiny percentage of players will probably be buying MTX cards. So it's not like they're going to lose out in any way at all. No, there's some other reason which has to do with lack of resources, laziness and incompetence. This might be supported by the fact that they outsourced GTA:T and RDR1 ports to some irrelevant mobile devs and small companies.

 

As for GTA-VI, I'll let these images do the talking. In every case, PC buyers make up a bulk (sometimes in the overwhelming majority) of Day 1 buyers. It's an objective fact that they'll have far better sales in the overall margin for a Day 1 PC release, than they would in attempting a double dip and spiting players. GTA-V, RDR2, and EGS timed exclusives are all proof that a double dip doesn't have as good profit margins as Day 1 releases.

30 minutes ago, Pankypops said:

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Edited December 1, 2023 by Pankypops

[CUTS3R]

6 minutes ago, Pankypops said:

 

Here's the thing. It makes no business sense to deem us as third rate and leave us out to dry, at all.

 

A money hungry corporate, and one as smart and conniving as Take 2, would try to cash in on this large a market for all the money it's worth. Plenty of other companies are doing the same while R*/T2 are actively missing out. GTA-V is almost always in Top Sellers on Steam, so they're definitely making $$$ on copies sold most probably for FiveM (which is still a first party property now). Even a tiny percentage of players will probably be buying MTX cards. So it's not like they're going to lose out in any way at all. No, there's some other reason which has to do with lack of resources, laziness and incompetence. This might be supported by the fact that they outsourced GTA:T and RDR1 ports to some irrelevant mobile devs and small compies.

 

As for GTA-VI, I'll let these images do the talking. In every case, PC buyers make up a bulk (sometimes in the overwhelming majority) of Day 1 buyers. It's an objective fact that they'll have far better sales in the overall margin for a Day 1 PC release, than they would in attempting a double dip and spiting players. GTA-V, RDR2, and EGS timed exclusive are all proof that a double dip doesn't have as good profit margins as Day 1 releases.

 

 

Ive seen the numbers and i get that as a company passing on money is a moronic and counterporductive decision.
Which is why we go back to the initial and probably main reason you stated initially: Pettiness. Don't try to logic that one you wont be able to because they themselves didnt use logic to get to that position.

My guess would be that after all the modding related debacles theyve had over the years with the shutdown of some modding stuff, cheaters and actual hackers, datamined leaks, private investigators backlash, etc, ego just took over rational reasoning.
They went "well you know what f*ck you then" They still release DLCS at all on PC because i assume they still have to but i would guarantee you if they didnt need to they would have likely dropped you before last gen even is.

Yes it doesnt make any sense thats the point. Unless they come forward and state their reason why they are doing this the ones ive given you will have to do beause they are the most sensible ones.

[mr_j]

I hope they go the extra mile and make that subscription garage work like a true subscription. Expired? Can't drive in/out, store/request a car. Savage, but it's realistic as in real life, and maybe a slap on the face for some to wake up.

Or better yet, if you got rid of your yee yee a$$ subscription, you can take a car but you can't return it to that garage

 

 

As for non-console players, from a console player...

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... I have a setup which allows me to run some fancy games (fancy CPU, GPU with raytracing, nvme ssd), and I'm keeping this game on PS4 on a different storage. As some speculated, it's more about some exclusive contracts with sony and microsoft to push players to the new gen (even if there are still some games released on PS4 this year), so that's why there are things on next gen not present on old gen (although some should be technically possible without much effort,  and few features rely on better CPU/GPU/SSD). Next gen also has gta+, but still no dedicated servers , and on console you need to have a PS+/live subscription to play Online (still no dedicated servers), and there have been some price increase on these lately. Think about this.

 

I might get the next title on a next gen console sometime later, on a sale, and play this one with backwards compatibility, as it should be for many older games. Thank you for attending my speech.

 

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[Pankypops]

7 minutes ago, CUTS3R said:

Ive seen the numbers and i get that as a company passing on money is a moronic and counterporductive decision.
Which is why we go back to the initial and probably main reason you stated initially: Pettiness. Don't try to logic that one you wont be able to because they themselves didnt use logic to get to that position.

My guess would be that after all the modding related debacles theyve had over the years with the shutdown of some modding stuff, cheaters and actual hackers, datamined leaks, private investigators backlash, etc, ego just took over rational reasoning.
They went "well you know what f*ck you then" They still release DLCS at all on PC because i assume they still have to but i would guarantee you if they didnt need to they would have likely dropped you before last gen even is.

Yes it doesnt make any sense thats the point. Unless they come forward and state their reason why they are doing this the ones ive given you will have to do beause they are the most sensible ones.

Being petty against potential customers doesn't work, and can bite back really hard (as seen with the OpenIV thing back in 2017, where the game lost a ton of engagement and got them a sh*t ton of bad press overnight). You don't bite the hand that feeds you after all. And if they were really being petty, they'd have completely shut down OpenIV and not relented, as well as FiveM, RedM and RageMP instead of working with them, and now acquiring them and giving them official support.

Once again, I still stick by this theory since there's actual concrete evidence to back it up, what with GTA-VI being all hands on deck and Online being worked on by a team of interns and clowns trying to get away with half-arsing.

23 minutes ago, Pankypops said:

No, there's some other reason which has to do with lack of resources, laziness and incompetence. This might be supported by the fact that they outsourced GTA:T and RDR1 ports to some irrelevant mobile devs and small companies.

Or there could be some manner of exclusivity contract with MS and Sony going on behind the scenes.

Edited December 1, 2023 by Pankypops

[Spectre "2K"]

you CANNOT mention Yusuf without adding a full sized uzi. Bonus points if it's default tint is gold

[Below_Mediocre]

33 minutes ago, Pankypops said:

Being petty against potential customers doesn't work, and can bite back really hard (as seen with the OpenIV thing back in 2017, where the game lost a ton of engagement and got them a sh*t ton of bad press overnight). You don't bite the hand that feeds you after all. And if they were really being petty, they'd have completely shut down OpenIV and not relented, as well as FiveM, RedM and RageMP instead of working with them, and now acquiring them and giving them official support.

Once again, I still stick by this theory since there's actual concrete evidence to back it up, what with GTA-VI being all hands on deck and Online being worked on by a team of interns and clowns trying to get away with half-arsing.

Or there could be some manner of exclusivity contract with MS and Sony going on behind the scenes.

You know, I'm kind of worried that the acquisition of CFX is less of a 'hey, your content is really great and we'd love to have you on board for possibly implementing custom multiplayers server officially into GTA 6' and more of a 'we're gonna buy you out so you stop tinkering with our f*cking games'. 

[Pankypops]

2 minutes ago, Below_Mediocre said:

You know, I'm kind of worried that the acquisition of CFX is less of a 'hey, your content is really great and we'd love to have you on board for possibly implementing custom multiplayers server officially into GTA 6' and more of a 'we're gonna buy you out so you stop tinkering with our f*cking games'. 

Would have been much more logical to C&D them right off the bat, instead of wasting resources acquiring them and providing them with support. So that approach doesn't make a whole lot of sense either, especially since RPing communities and custom client servers are what drive the engagement and popularity of their games in the long run.

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[Below_Mediocre]

Just now, Pankypops said:

Would have been much more logical to C&D them right off the bat, instead of wasting resources acquiring them and providing them with support.

Very true, but I guess I'm not looking at it from a logical standpoint because nothing Rockstar does is ever logical. Plus, we've no official confirmation that R* is actually supporting FiveM and RedM, only that they've acquired the company that develops both.

[The Grunt 281]

Something I remember very well from TBoGT is that Yusuf like stuff he can't buy, the car thing ? Not so sure unless it's somehow some illegal model in San Andreas, no we aren't talking about the rest of the world where the stuff might be legal.

 

Buzzard not good back in Liberty City while the NOOSE Tank is a law enforcement vehicle I don't see being sold even if unarmed, complety fine in San Andreas on the other hand coast.

[ST0b]

16 hours ago, Tez2 said:

Are these guys mercenaries or Casino Security guards?

 

 

Looks like one of the new Vehicle Robbery missions has us steal the Turismo Omaggio from the Casino.

BOY OH BOY!!! I slept early yesterday not expecting anything and we get Car Heist(Semi-Car Heist DLC)! Maybe the Omaggio Heist will be the last mission.We start with the other missions and in the end,we steal the Omaggio and get to keep it.I mean,we do have that special livery for it; thanks to the community challenge.

16 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

I guess @Zak Ras wins the speculation here, unless somebody else brought up Yusuf first?  

I always wanted Yusuf Amir to be in the game.So, Happy that my wish came true.

16 hours ago, Tez2 said:

Indeed.

 

 

I wonder if we can steal the podium car and deliver it to the Salvage Yard

 

If that ends up to be the case, then I guess the Turismo Omaggio will be the podium vehicle on release day?

Car Heist and Salvage Yards? R* really reads my posts here.I am already loving the new DLC,unless R* screws it up real bad.

16 hours ago, WildBrick142 said:

the turismo in the main screenshot has forged carbon roof and mirrors, so it's likely this will be a hsw car. since f.c. parts are usually (but not always) exclusive to it

The name of the Winter GTAO update: The return of @WildBrick142 .

16 hours ago, AUScowboy said:

But… will they behave like SP and can we kill them if necessary? “I swear, that house cat was going to claw my eyes out officer”

Halloween animals were likely a test for the animals.I knew it.But making them Next Gen Exclusive???? Really R*? Really? 

I was sure we were gonna get lots of oranges......but it seems the Junior Leaker has struck again. Following @Barrtek closely(No! Not stalking or anything) from now on.

Edited December 1, 2023 by ST0b

[Alfonso93]

3 minutes ago, Super Grunt 281 said:

Something I remember very well from TBoGT is that Yusuf like stuff he can't buy, the car thing ? Not so sure unless it's somehow some illegal model in San Andreas, no we aren't talking about the rest of the world where the stuff might be legal.

 

Buzzard not good back in Liberty City while the NOOSE Tank is a law enforcement vehicle I don't see being sold even if unarmed, complety fine in San Andreas on the other hand coast.

well, gta online makes no sense at all, you can buy a flying motorcycle with missiles from a website with complete normality

[EkaSwede]

IF Yusuf doesn't have a Roosevelt Valor and a Z-Type I'll be sorely disappointed. Remember that I/E collection set? Yeah.

 

Anyway, as low as my hopes are, I'll still say that this update needs to be good. I think the last good update was probably The Contract so far, but currently the bar I've set is 10 feet underground.

 

EDIT: I'm still waiting on those Mini Car Models from the Casino Update!

Edited December 1, 2023 by EkaSwede

[ST0b]

1 hour ago, Barrtek said:

Mrs. Baker when the Casino was robbed a billion times and if that wasn't enough, apparently Yusuf Amir wants to start stealing casino cars to sell them

Maybe we can get her on our side.Ya know,tell her the Duggans plan to remove her like Vincent.And we got ourselves an experienced Casino Manager.If Only we could run our own mini-casino.I mean we do have an arcade.Maybe,setup a baby-casino in the basement.

Since Yusuf is here.I expect Golden finishes for most if not all the weapons and Real Golden bodies and tyres for our vehicles.I mean,my TerrorByte is Golden.Why cant my Kosatka be Golden like Luxor Deluxe and Swift Deluxe.

[ambi3nt]

"A newly streamlined Interaction menu for easier navigation". So far every single change they've done to interaction menu made it worse. I wonder if it will change. Though that "streamlined" doesn't give much hope considering other things they've "streamlined".

[ST0b]

GOOD NEWS:We might get a supercool DLC just like I wanted.

BAD NEWS:Expect nerfs to Casino Heist and Tuners Robberies.And even more nerfs or should I say.."The Final Nail in the Coffin" for Cayo Perico Heist.I will always love you CPH and Pavel.

PSA:Everyone,Do as much CPH as you can.I'm sure its gonna get another nerf(this winter or in the summer).

[mr_j]

1 minute ago, ST0b said:

Expect nerfs to Casino Heist and Tuners Robberies

What is there to nerf in Tuner Robberies? A lot of players are doing them only during bonus weeks, and some complain about some voice over they don't really like...

[EkaSwede]

Just now, mr_j said:

What is there to nerf in Tuner Robberies? A lot of players are doing them only during bonus weeks, and some complain about some voice over they don't really like...

Nerf it by either slashing payouts or introducing a volume check. If you at any point mute the game or your TV, you get a 75% payout penalty.

 

Why'd they nerf Casino Heist, though? Have people started to spam that one now?