Chunk Norris Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) Updated Video guide (a lot shorter): Only 1.0.7.0/1.0.8.0 support - 1.0.4.0 is not supported Last Supported FusionFix version 3.5.1 Important before you downgrade: Downgrading is not necessary for all mods, only do it if you want to use mods that are only available on older patches ( such as IVSDK.NET with Liberty Tweaks). Mods that directly modify game files (for the most part) will be compatible with all versions of GTA IV. FusionFix is available and most supported on CE, so if you only want that and the radio downgrader, then downgrading is NOT necessary. The scope and reasons to downgrade: For mods that are sadly not available on the Complete Edition of the game because they are old or because of some other technical limitations. Do it if you want to skip RGL entirely (launching and earning achievements on Steam will still be an option****. This will enable you to start the game directly from the .exe entirely skipping the annoying RGL essentially creating a version that can be played offline and even portable. After you are finished you will have a 1080 or 1070 game with the newest Fusionfix, no bloat, restored radio stations. Ready for further modding. THE GUIDE: Please make a backup copy of your untouched GTA IV folder just in case something goes wrong ( more on this in the end) Please note that you will need Microsoft Visualc++ installed or the game won't launch (this would normally be installed during the first start of the game). You can download an up to date all-in-one package here. 1. Download the Complete Edition version of the game from Steam or via the Rockstar Games launcher** **Notes for RGL version: If you have any trouble overwriting or editing files, make sure you have permissions to modify game files in the folder. **It might also be a good idea to completely move the game away from the default RGL install folder, since after downgrading you won't be able to use the RGL to start the game. 2. OPTIONAL (but highly recommended) Download the radio downgrader (so you get all the songs back into the game which Rockstar removed due to license expiration, from this point on I will assume that you are also using the radio downgrader in this guide) Installing the Radio Downgrader Please note that the Radio restoration mod will only install on completely unmodified copies of the game (it does a hash-check) , so we will install this first before doing any other changes. //Unzip the contents of the downgrader and run the IVCERadioRestoration.exe executable //When you get to the selection screen make sure that you DO NOT select the FusionFix install from here (we will install it manually) //Make your desired radio restoration selection (below is how I like to have my radios, it is up to you) //Select your main game directory. (example: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Grand Theft Auto IV\GTAIV) //Finish the installation and note that there will be a new folder called 'update' in your game folder. 3.Do A little cleanup in the game folder (optional but recommended) You can delete a lot of unneeded files and folders - in the end all you will need for the game to work are these* files and folders (we will add some more .exe files later): *Note that the steam_api.dll file is only needed if you are planning to launch the game from steam later. 4. Get Fusionfix (Latest working version is 3.5.1) Open GTAIV.EFLC.FusionFix.zip and unzip the contents into GTAIV/ 5.Rename dinput8.dll to xlive.dll - very important 6.Get Xlivelessaddon Open XLivelessAddon.zip and unzip the contents into GTA IV/ 7.Get the 1.0.8.0 or 1.0.7.0 downgraded files ---> HERE <--- (gofile - updated 18/04/25) Open the contents of your chosen version ( I recommend 1080 for better performance , only use 1070 if you know the mod you want absolutely needs it) //Extract it to your GTA IV main directory, it will ask you to overwrite only 2 files, choose yes. In the end the main folder of the game should look like this(+the gta4encoder.exe for the video editor): You can start the game via ''PlayGTAIV.exe'' or Steam. If you are going to use Steam to play your downgraded copy set the game updates on steam to only update when you start the game and make sure to create a backup of your modded game just in case steam start verifying files*** NOTES If you want to get technical: The downgraded files I provide come from a trusted source. However, since this is technically a crack it will be marked malicious by virustotal. Use at your own risk, I have been using these for years without issue. We are using the latest version of Zolikapatch for the downgrade (v7.65). Zolika left the modding scene, so no more updates are planned. Zolikapatch is only needed with FusionFix if you use combinded radio stations (EFLC+Base game combined) and if you are planning to play the episodes as well. It is used to avoid crashes which would otherwise happen. If you are only planning to free roam in GTA IV base game and are not using combined radio stations you can remove Zolikapatch entirely. I provided Zolikapatch completely bloat free, meaning only those options are enabled in there which are absolutely necessary for us to successfully use FusionFix on our downgraded copies. If you want to earn Steam achievements while playing you will need to use Steam to launch your game, have steam_api.dll in the game folder, download steam achievements unlocker and put steamachievements.asi into the plugins folder. ***Every month or so Rockstar updates GTA IV with new Rockstar game launcher redistributables ( these are just the RGL files basically, so they are not touching the game), this causes Steam to notify us of an update. Please make sure that you have a backup available of your downgraded copy because it is possible that steam will start verifying files and mess with your modded copy. By default when you start your game it will load you straight into the first mission or a save if you already have one. To be able to select the episodes or to load into the menu instead go to -> Settings (press Escape ingame) -> Game -> and turn OFF Skip into and Skip menu Check out my mods on Nexus! SOLITUDE - a timecycle mod FIDELITY - a popcycle mod A huge thanks for the Fusion team for making all this possible, their mod is the backbone now of any stable modern GTA IV installation. Edited April 18 by Chunk Norris Updated downgrader files( added missing TLAD and TBOGT script.img) fartingrats, Emmi, Jabba1992 and 27 others 21 1 7 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessGlue540 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) On 11/21/2023 at 2:49 PM, Chunk Norris said: I would advise you to make a backup of the modded game folder because rockstar has a habit of pushing Rockstar Game Launcher updates every few months which might trigger steam to do a validation check of the files and mess up your install. (make sure to right click the game on steam and select the ''only update the game when I launch it'' option so you at least have some control over this. I don't think that Steam and RGL actually delete added files. They can only update the files you replace, so it's safe as is. No need to waste extra space. If you want to truly restore the game to it's original glory, I heavily recommend Various Fixes and Console Visuals. They both have their installations adapted for the Fusion Overloader so just copy and paste them to your game's directory. If you have a powerful computer, and did all of this, but the game still does not perform to your expectations, you can consider trying out DXVK. It translates the game's original DirectX9 pipeline to a much better Vulkan based one, improving the workload a lot. In some cases, this may bring performance enhancements up to 20+fps on good hardware... In other cases, there may be major stability improvements in frame timing, which means less stutter, but really, your mileage may vary a lot. Edited November 26, 2023 by RecklessGlue540 Chunk Norris 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Norris Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, RecklessGlue540 said: I don't think that Steam and RGL actually delete added files. They can only update the files you replace, so it's safe as is. No need to waste extra space. This is probably true for a pure fusionfix install on CE that only uses the overloader but I specifically wanted a 1080 downgrade guide here and the .exe and some other stuff will be caught by the validation check making the game unplayable after it's finished. Still I included it as an extra step for safety, technically it is not necessary to do. 1 hour ago, RecklessGlue540 said: If you want to truly restore the game to it's original glory, I heavily recommend Various Fixes and Console Visuals. They both have their installations adapted for the Fusion Overloader so just copy and paste them to your game's directory. If you have a powerful computer, and did all of this, but the game still does not perform to your expectations, you can consider trying out DXVK. Absolutely. I would consider these mods exceptional and they are confirmed to work well with fusion overloader, along with restored pedestrians and restored tree positions as well. As for DXVK, as you said your mileage may vary. I find it not necessary if you are on a strong gpu+strong cpu combo but if your CPU is weak it will probably yield some performance advantages as dxvk mainly relies on your GPU. What I like about the regular DX9 with fusionfix that in my case (120hz oled screen with vrr) the vsync properly locks to 116fps and VRR is engaged so even if I get framedrops to the nineties or eighties depending on ingame traffic it's still within the VRR window so I don't notice it. DXVK is a bit wonky in my opinion with vsync but It is also configurable, of course. I wanted this guide to be as easy as possible. If people want to add mods or other stuff later they have a strong foundation with the essentials in place already. diperro and RecklessGlue540 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diperro Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Looks like RGL has been updated just now, I'll try reinstalling the game and see if everything still works as intended Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryMeatPie Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) Hi, thanks for the guide! Is downgrading with Clonk's downgrader still a good solution or is it kind of outdated? (I saw they have 1.7 version of downgrader on their page, which says 2.0 doesn't work properly, Idk the difference between the two). And does anyone know if the radio downgrade there restores the same songs as CE radio downgrader? And one more thing, does the method of downgrading offered here allow playing EFLC and switching from IV to ECLC? Edited November 21, 2023 by AngryMeatPie RecklessGlue540 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Norris Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, diperro said: Looks like RGL has been updated just now, I'll try reinstalling the game and see if everything still works as intended yep there was a new launcher redistributable update as per usual. It should not break modded copies as long as a steam file validation check is not triggered. 45 minutes ago, AngryMeatPie said: Hi, thanks for the guide! Is downgrading with Clonk's downgrader still a good solution or is it kind of outdated? (I saw they have 1.7 version of downgrader on their page, which says 2.0 doesn't work properly, Idk the difference between the two). And does anyone know if the radio downgrade there restores the same songs as CE radio downgrader? Clonk's downgrader Is still okayish I would say but it's prone to having download/installation issues in my experience. Also some of the stuff there is seriously outdated. For example we don't need zolikapatch anymore at all in our games thanks to fusionfix. (not even on 1070/1080. Only needed on 1040 which I don't recommend anymore unless you are an ENB fanatic) Also the shader fixes collection in there is ancient and I don't know if it pulls fusionfix from the github or some outdated place either. So I would recommend to do everything by hand for now as per my guide if you want things done the easy way with no headaches. The radio downgrader that I linked in my guide above uses fusion overloader for maximum compatibility and it restores some additional beta tracks as far as I am aware so it's superior to the one in clonk's but functionally it's the same thing. Plus you can restore even more beta songs if you install this on top of it (openiv required). 45 minutes ago, AngryMeatPie said: And one more thing, does the method of downgrading offered here allow playing EFLC and switching from IV to ECLC? Absolutely, you should have no problems launching EFLC as basically we are not doing any heavy duty mods just the purest downgrade possible to 1080 with zero bloat. And 1080 supports EFLC. Further testing needed on this, you might need zpatch after all, I will come back with an update Edited November 21, 2023 by Chunk Norris RecklessGlue540 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessGlue540 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Chunk Norris said: Absolutely, you should have no problems launching EFLC as basically we are not doing any heavy duty mods just the purest downgrade possible to 1080 with zero bloat. And 1080 supports EFLC I think he meant the folder structure of the episodes... episodes won't be seen by default... Unless you use ZPatch... Edited November 21, 2023 by RecklessGlue540 AngryMeatPie 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moncastler Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Good and simple guide. I do however disagree with the reasons you've given to downgrade to 1.0.8.0, on CE you can do all the things you mentioned and it is easier to set up. I think it makes sense to go back to 1.0.8.0 / 1.0.7.0 only if: - you want to play multiplayer - you want to use a specific mod that wasn't ported to CE - you want to have an always offline .exe - you want to have separate radio stations (but you need IV and EFLC not merged together) For most people the downgrade process is not needed to get to a vanilla+ experience. I really do appreciate that you want to help people with a simple guide (this also seems to be very Linux-friendly), I would just explain a bit better where 1.0.8.0 is actually superior 4 hours ago, Chunk Norris said: I would advise you to make a backup of the modded game folder because rockstar has a habit of pushing Rockstar Game Launcher updates every few months which might trigger steam to do a validation check of the files and mess up your install. (make sure to right click the game on steam and select the ''only update the game when I launch it'' option so you at least have some control over this. +1 on having a backup if you downgrade, but Steam doesn't do any validation check once the game is installed. When there's a RGL update, Steam will download only the 2 redist files that are placed in the Redistributables folder, so the GTAIV folder isn't touched at all. When the public branch gets updated however (can be seen on SteamDB), the update might screw over with your install. I don't like auto-updates in general, I usually set Steam to auto-update games only between 3AM and 5AM so I can manually update what I want. RGL is a different beast, every time you launch a game from it there's a validation check. Launching the game directly from the .exe should work though. 2 hours ago, Chunk Norris said: As for DXVK, as you said your mileage may vary. I find it not necessary if you are on a strong gpu+strong cpu combo but if your CPU is weak it will probably yield some performance advantages as dxvk mainly relies on your GPU. What I like about the regular DX9 with fusionfix that in my case (120hz oled screen with vrr) the vsync properly locks to 116fps and VRR is engaged so even if I get framedrops to the nineties or eighties depending on ingame traffic it's still within the VRR window so I don't notice it. DXVK is a bit wonky in my opinion with vsync but It is also configurable, of course. From what I understand, GTA IV is a game that can reach fairly quickly DX9 API limits. Night shadows and detail / distance draw are probably the 3 biggest offenders, these options drastically increase the amount of calls made to the DX9 API and so your GPU has to wait. DXVK intercepts all DX9 calls and so the DX9 API limit shouldn't be an issue anymore, the 3 previous options can now be fully maxed out while keeping a decent framerate / frametime (you still need a decent GPU). Essentially DXVK will show massive gains only if you max out all graphics settings, if you scale down detail / distance draw and turn off night shadows DX9 might actually be a bit better. Uhm, are you using the Ultra-low latency mode in the NVIDIA control panel to cap your framerate? That option doesn't work with DX12 and Vulkan, that's probably why it isn't capping to 116 FPS. To remain in the VRR window with DXVK I would suggest to put a custom FPS value in the FusionFix .ini file. RecklessGlue540 and Chunk Norris 1 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessGlue540 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, Moncastler said: From what I understand, GTA IV is a game that can reach fairly quickly DX9 API limits. Night shadows and detail / distance draw are probably the 3 biggest offenders, these options drastically increase the amount of calls made to the DX9 API and so your GPU has to wait. DXVK intercepts all DX9 calls and so the DX9 API limit shouldn't be an issue anymore, the 3 previous options can now be fully maxed out while keeping a decent framerate / frametime (you still need a decent GPU). Essentially DXVK will show massive gains only if you max out all graphics settings, if you scale down detail / distance draw and turn off night shadows DX9 might actually be a bit better. This. My Ryzen 7 5700G has seen major improvements in usage at max settings. On D3D9, i've seen some huge spikes at random times ranging from 20-45%. With DXVK it basically never reaches 20%. Not to mention most of the stutters being eliminated. No major improvement to performance tho. It's just the lower stress on the hardware making it a thousand times more worth it at least for me... Chunk Norris 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Norris Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, Moncastler said: Good and simple guide. I do however disagree with the reasons you've given to downgrade to 1.0.8.0, on CE you can do all the things you mentioned and it is easier to set up. I think it makes sense to go back to 1.0.8.0 / 1.0.7.0 only if: - you want to play multiplayer - you want to use a specific mod that wasn't ported to CE - you want to have an always offline .exe - you want to have separate radio stations (but you need IV and EFLC not merged together) For most people the downgrade process is not needed to get to a vanilla+ experience. I really do appreciate that you want to help people with a simple guide (this also seems to be very Linux-friendly), I would just explain a bit better where 1.0.8.0 is actually superior Spot on, this is where I see the strengths of 1080 as well I was just a bit more poetic in my OP, and yes you don't need to downgrade necessarily, I never said so. But this guide is specifically for downgrading which is my preferred way to play. 13 minutes ago, Moncastler said: +1 on having a backup if you downgrade, but Steam doesn't do any validation check once the game is installed. When there's a RGL update, Steam will download only the 2 redist files that are placed in the Redistributables folder, so the GTAIV folder isn't touched at all. When the public branch gets updated however (can be seen on SteamDB), the update might screw over with your install. It's an extra step for safety I like to use, for whatever reason in the past I lost a fully modded game to steam's update so I caution everyone not to take chances on this. And yea I was wondering what triggered it that time and not other times so thanks for clarifying that. 13 minutes ago, RecklessGlue540 said: I think he meant the folder structure of the episodes... episodes won't be seen by default... Unless you use ZPatch... You might be right on this one. For now Let's put a pin in EFLC until I can test it a bit better. 15 minutes ago, Moncastler said: From what I understand, GTA IV is a game that can reach fairly quickly DX9 API limits. Night shadows and detail / distance draw are probably the 3 biggest offenders, these options drastically increase the amount of calls made to the DX9 API and so your GPU has to wait. DXVK intercepts all DX9 calls and so the DX9 API limit shouldn't be an issue anymore, the 3 previous options can now be fully maxed out while keeping a decent framerate / frametime (you still need a decent GPU). Essentially DXVK will show massive gains only if you max out all graphics settings, if you scale down detail / distance draw and turn off night shadows DX9 might actually be a bit better. Uhm, are you using the Ultra-low latency mode in the NVIDIA control panel to cap your framerate? That option doesn't work with DX12 and Vulkan, that's probably why it isn't capping to 116 FPS. To remain in the VRR window with DXVK I would suggest to put a custom FPS value in the FusionFix .ini file. I don't like to boast but I have a pretty beefy PC atm and I basically see no difference in the highs nor the lows using dx9 or dxvk. It runs well regardless. And thanks for the tip for the dxvk cap I will try it. But in the past I saw some big performance benefits of DXVK on my previous config so yes DXVK is absolutely great. It's just not included because this is not a comprehensive guide for all thing GTAIV it focuses solely on a strict 1080 vanilla-esque easy downgrade nothing fancier than that. It can be used as a canvas for anyone to build upon and mod after this. RecklessGlue540 and Moncastler 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryMeatPie Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Chunk Norris said: Plus you can restore even more beta songs if you install this on top of it Thanks for sharing! Didn't know it existed. Does it install beta songs in the game folder or into "update" like the Downgrader does it? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Norris Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, AngryMeatPie said: Thanks for sharing! Didn't know it existed. Does it install beta songs in the game folder or into "update" like the Downgrader does it? the update folder AngryMeatPie 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryMeatPie Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 57 minutes ago, Chunk Norris said: You might be right on this one. For now Let's put a pin in EFLC until I can test it a bit better. Will be waiting Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryMeatPie Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Chunk Norris said: Get the 1080 downgraded files from here (download only 1080.zip) Speaking of this, I always played on 1070 because Clonk's downgrader mentions it's the best version for mods (I could be wrong as I don't go there often). Any significant difference between 1070 and 1080 in terms of modding? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessGlue540 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, AngryMeatPie said: Any significant difference between 1070 and 1080 in terms of modding? In terms of differences: Grand Theft Auto IV/Title Update Notes/Update 2016-11-29 | GTA Wiki | Fandom In terms of modding they should be much the same... AngryMeatPie 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Norris Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, AngryMeatPie said: Speaking of this, I always played on 1070 because Clonk's downgrader mentions it's the best version for mods (I could be wrong as I don't go there often). Any significant difference between 1070 and 1080 in terms of modding? yes, just use 1080 if you are not gonna use scripthook.net mods, even though most of them will work on 1080 as well. ( scripthook.net mods are bad because of the rain bug it causes plus there can be detrimental performance) ivsdk.net mods are all the jazz (but there arent so many of them). But in general what works on 1070 will work on 1080 as well. I choose 1080 because you dont need any command line magic tricks for vram and it wont restrict your ingame settings Edited November 21, 2023 by Chunk Norris RecklessGlue540 and AngryMeatPie 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryMeatPie Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Chunk Norris said: I choose 1080 because you dont need any command line magic tricks for vram and it wont restrict your ingame settings Yeah, just checked the 1080 update notes and they seem to have fixed VRAM issues there as well as some other stuff. I'll try it out... 6 minutes ago, Chunk Norris said: scripthook.net mods are bad because of the rain bug it causes plus there can be detrimental performance) ivsdk.net mods are all the jazz (but there arent so many of them) Had experience with both. I wish they ported some of good scripthook mods (like IV Death Music) to SDK as it's more modern (as I understand it), plus it would remove the rain bug... Edited November 21, 2023 by AngryMeatPie Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessGlue540 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, AngryMeatPie said: Had experience with both. I wish they ported some of good scripthook mods (like IV Death Music) to SDK as it's more modern (as I understand it), plus it would remove the rain bug... We have an alternative now for CE: gennariarmando/iv-restored-death-music (github.com) Thanks for suggesting it on FusionFix. Chunk Norris and AngryMeatPie 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryMeatPie Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, RecklessGlue540 said: We have an alternative now for CE: gennariarmando/iv-restored-death-music (github.com) Thanks for suggesting it on FusionFix. Yaaay, thank you for sharing! Is the author planning to expand it further (ability to add custom tracks / separate music between TLAD and TBOGT)? RecklessGlue540 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072268934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Norris Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 @RecklessGlue540 OK so I've been experimenting a bit and yes, EFLC unfortunately does not come up as an option with my downgrade method. I tried adding zolikapatch to the mix and enabled LoadDLCs=1 But even then it does not come up as an option in the menu. EFLC in particular is not important for me when modding, but do you know how to make the episodes work with fusionfix on 1080, by any chance? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072269691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessGlue540 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Chunk Norris said: @RecklessGlue540 OK so I've been experimenting a bit and yes, EFLC unfortunately does not come up as an option with my downgrade method. I tried adding zolikapatch to the mix and enabled LoadDLCs=1 But even then it does not come up as an option in the menu. EFLC in particular is not important for me when modding, but do you know how to make the episodes work with fusionfix on 1080, by any chance? LoadDLCs works for me... Otherwise, the only viable method would be this: However, simply copy pasting the CE DLC folder contents will not make them show up... The DLCs themselves would have to be downgraded (or rather took from) from a retail EFLC copy... sounds a bit extreme, right? (I do not know if the provided files in the above thread actually work... as i didn't test them; only wanted to see how much different they are) I do however have EFLC on disc, since I bought a retail CE copy back in 2020 sealed, but I do not have access to a DVD drive currently, unfortunately... Edited November 22, 2023 by RecklessGlue540 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072269704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fartingrats Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 I get this error when i open the game Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072269820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessGlue540 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, fartingrats said: I get this error when i open the game If the file is flagged as a virus, windows will try to stop executing it, throwing you this error. You can try adding an exclusion in Windows Defender for your GTAIV folder. Then, add the file back into your plugins folder, since Windows will keep it quarantined. Or simply just allow it on your device... If it's not that, then maybe install these: abbodi1406/vcredist: AIO Repack for latest Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable Runtimes (github.com) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072269886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diperro Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Chunk Norris said: @RecklessGlue540 OK so I've been experimenting a bit and yes, EFLC unfortunately does not come up as an option with my downgrade method. I tried adding zolikapatch to the mix and enabled LoadDLCs=1 But even then it does not come up as an option in the menu. EFLC in particular is not important for me when modding, but do you know how to make the episodes work with fusionfix on 1080, by any chance? Sorry, I'm a bit clueless about this issue, does this mean you can't jump seamlessly from EFLC to IV and viceversa? It's not a big deal if that's the only problem. Edited November 22, 2023 by diperro Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072269909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessGlue540 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, diperro said: Sorry, I'm a bit clueless about this issue, does this mean you can't jump seamlessly from EFLC to IV and viceversa? It's not a big deal if that's the only problem. No. Actually, you can't play the DLC at all. Try out ZPatch with LoadDLCs option enabled, see if it works for you... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072269921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diperro Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, RecklessGlue540 said: No. Actually, you can't play the DLC at all. Try out ZPatch with LoadDLCs option enabled, see if it works for you... Damn, that's a bummer do you know where in the installation process would ZPatch install go? cause I tried adding Zpatch the other day and it broke the game for me I don't really feel the need for it either, although Zolika's trainer has a lot of uses to access hidden content like hidden vehicles, extras and such another question: Where is the savegame folder located after the patch install? IV works fine with this method so far, not launching through RGL is a godsend Edited November 22, 2023 by diperro Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072269926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessGlue540 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, diperro said: cause I tried adding Zpatch the other day and it broke the game for me Well, some things in there will conflict with FF... If you don't really need anything in there, you can disable everything but the LoadDLCs option there. It should work fine that way too... considering that this downgrade method aims to exclude ZPatch. ZPatch can also allow you to launch the game DIRECTLY from the exe through the use of Skip launcher so if it means much to you, you can try it out... XliveLessAddon also allows that, however piracy measures are triggered as a side effect... Saved games and options after downgrade are located in Appdata/local... diperro 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072269941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Norris Posted November 23, 2023 Author Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, diperro said: Damn, that's a bummer do you know where in the installation process would ZPatch install go? cause I tried adding Zpatch the other day and it broke the game for me I don't really feel the need for it either, although Zolika's trainer has a lot of uses to access hidden content like hidden vehicles, extras and such another question: Where is the savegame folder located after the patch install? IV works fine with this method so far, not launching through RGL is a godsend zpatch would go to the plugins folder. I will try to experiment with some combinations of fixes from there in order to get tlad an tbogt work but nothing so far. I realize that EFLC is a big deal to some. I was hoping we could avoid Zpatch altogether with fusionfix on 1080 but for now the downgrade method only works for base IV Edited November 23, 2023 by Chunk Norris diperro and RecklessGlue540 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072270034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diperro Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Chunk Norris said: zpatch would go to the plugins folder. I will try to experiment with some combinations of fixes from there in order to get tlad an tbogt work but nothing so far. I realize that EFLC is a big deal to some. I was hoping we couls avoid Zpatch altogether with fusionfix on 1080 but for noe the downgrade method only works for base IV Thanks for the reply brother. I'll keep the folder I edited with your method as my main IV folder for now as I'm running through the main story first anyway, and the offline .exe is a deal breaker for me. Unfortunately EFLC also is, those gang wars are too damn adictive lol, but I can use my old backup folder if I want to jump into the episodes for now I'll try to take a look into zpatch to check if I can make the episodes work when I have more time. Edited November 23, 2023 by diperro RecklessGlue540 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072270064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessGlue540 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, RecklessGlue540 said: LoadDLCs works for me... Otherwise, the only viable method would be this: However, simply copy pasting the CE DLC folder contents will not make them show up... The DLCs themselves would have to be downgraded (or rather took from) from a retail EFLC copy... sounds a bit extreme, right? (I do not know if the provided files in the above thread actually work... as i didn't test them; only wanted to see how much different they are) I do however have EFLC on disc, since I bought a retail CE copy back in 2020 sealed, but I do not have access to a DVD drive currently, unfortunately... Actually, the files from that thread work, game sees the DLCs; Played TLAD for a few seconds into the intro, instant crash when changing the radio stations : ) probably happened when changing to the episode exclusive stations... I wonder if the radio downgrader fixes anything... Edited November 23, 2023 by RecklessGlue540 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/993910-gta-iv-simplified-downgrading-guide-2025-how-to-use-fusionfix-on-older-patches/#findComment-1072270308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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