If there was a GTA 3 sequel story, what gang should it follow ?

[Jupiter69]

what do you think ?

[Luciano89]

I voted for Yakuza, as I think that it would be interesting to see what happened after Asuka's death.

 

However, if we consider the fact that all these gangs were severely weakened after the events of the game, maybe it would be better to see something new.

Edited November 4, 2023 by Luciano89

[universetwisters]

I’d like to see something follow the Diablos, just because they’re very underrated and seeing them potentially take over Portland now that the Leones and Triads have weakened would be an interesting story

 

Also the fact they have the coolest gang cars (maybe tied with the Lobo) might influence my opinion on them 

[Silver]

Probably the Yakuza since both III and LCS focused on this gang to a degree, it would make sense to focus on them again and see who became their newest leader now that Asuka is dead. Of course, the same applies to the Leones as we don't know who took over following Salvatore's demise or even if they survived at all after III's events.

 

However I could see a sequel focusing on the smaller gangs such as the Diablos, the Yardies or even the Hoods for a change.

[cant remember]

I voted for the Triads because it's the only gang that don't have any missions (what about LCS, did you do missions for them there? I don't remember)

Diablos has El Burro, the Red Jacks have a phone mission, the Yakuza and Cartel are part of the main storyline. But Triads? Chunky Lee Chong is the only named character I remember.

[Anywhere USA]

Unironically, the Diablos are in a really good position. They get out of 3 mostly untouched, have living leadership, and were rapidly overtaking the Leones in the Red Light District. 
 

On 11/4/2023 at 10:19 AM, cant remember said:

I voted for the Triads because it's the only gang that don't have any missions (what about LCS, did you do missions for them there? I don't remember)

Diablos has El Burro, the Red Jacks have a phone mission, the Yakuza and Cartel are part of the main storyline. But Triads? Chunky Lee Chong is the only named character I remember.

Nope, none. Only show up as enemies in a couple missions.

 

There’s a side mission where you race a trio of high ranking Triads, The Wong Brothers(who are presumably the 3 warlords you kill in GTA 3) and the GTA 3 website mentions their leader in Hong Kong is named Cheung. There’s also a triad named Hung Well in LCS

Also, there’s a page on the GTA 3 website which says the Triads have been working with Yakuza higher ups, implying they were allied 

[Anywhere USA]

Something else the GTA 3 website clarifies: Both the Triads and Diablos only came into existence in 1997. They’re new gangs on the scene. And the Hoods only date back to 1996.

 

The Colombians we can’t really pin down exactly? But probably early 90s, after Colombia itself cracked down and the Vice City Cartels collapsed.

 

The Yakuza apparently have been in Liberty since the early 70s, though prior to LCS they didn’t control much. And obviously the 3 mob families date back ages 

[Martin4004]

7 hours ago, Anywhere USA said:

 and the GTA 3 website mentions their leader in Hong Kong is named Cheung. There’s also a triad named Hung Well in LCS

Also, there’s a page on the GTA 3 website that says the Triads have been working with Yakuza higher-ups, implying they were allied 

Wait a second, I think you're going too far with the interpretation of some Liberty Tree articles there  I need to clarify some things just so we are all on the same page.

 

Starting off with "Triad's leader in Hong Kong named Cheung", I presume that you are referring to the article named "Mackerel Factory to Expand" released in May 2001. Yes, it is about the Triad fish factory in Portland that is going to be built on behalf of Cheung Industries from Shanghai, but there is no information in the article suggesting that Triad's leader in Hong Kong is named Cheung whatsoever. Besides, Shanghai is located in China, not Hong Kong to be more precise. 

 

Going to the next statement "Triads have been working with Yakuza higher-ups, implying they were allied", I am gonna take a wild guess (since you didn't provide the source) and say you refer to the article named "Gangs Rife on our City Streets, Corruption Everywhere" released also in May 2001. I suppose your conclusion came from this particular sentence "At present, it is believed Japanese gangsters have begun to flex their muscles in Liberty City, joining the Chinese gangs, thought to be Triads who have been operating in Liberty City since the Hong Kong handover in 1997." Unfortunately, I have to disagree with you on that one either because joining doesn't necessarily mean they were allies. I would rather say they "joined" as if the Triads were already there and only now Yakuza started operating in Liberty City on a higher scale. This makes far more sense in my opinion since in the game itself, we don't see even one instance of Yakuza and Triads being allied (both in GTA 3 and GTA LCS). You could argue that they are not fighting each other, but it doesn't necessarily mean they are allies, they could be also neutral since they operate on two different islands and don't have a conflict of interests. 

[Martin4004]

5 hours ago, Anywhere USA said:

Something else the GTA 3 website clarifies: Both the Triads and Diablos only came into existence in 1997. They’re new gangs on the scene. And the Hoods only date back to 1996.

 

The Colombians we can’t really pin down exactly? But probably early 90s, after Colombia itself cracked down and the Vice City Cartels collapsed.

 

The Yakuza apparently have been in Liberty since the early 70s, though prior to LCS they didn’t control much. And obviously, the 3 mob families date back ages 

As for these statements, they are true 100% although luckily, there is a "way" to pin down when approximately Columbian Cartel started operating in Liberty City. This is possible due to Barry Harcross's scandal which was brought back to light by Liberty Tree in February 2001. Namely, in 1997, Barry Harcross was accused by the FBI of "laundering money for the mob in his construction business, of importing more than flowers from his Colombian office, and of doing a whole host of other crimes too slanderous to mention here." Exact words from the article, pay attention to the parts that are bolded. Construction business? Things that the Colombians are "specialized in"? Colombian office? These two little details perfectly show that this businessman was working with the Colombian Cartel back in 1997, so I think that we could easily say that Colombians were in Liberty City at least from 1997 based on this article. 

[Jupiter69]

Seems The Yakuza is the most popular, the Liberty City Yakuza is implied to a branch division of a Family from Japan so its entirely possible for the sequel story to be about Some Gangster from japan

[Anywhere USA]

On 11/7/2023 at 2:22 AM, Martin4004 said:

Wait a second, I think you're going too far with the interpretation of some Liberty Tree articles there  I need to clarify some things just so we are all on the same page.

 

Starting off with "Triad's leader in Hong Kong named Cheung", I presume that you are referring to the article named "Mackerel Factory to Expand" released in May 2001. Yes, it is about the Triad fish factory in Portland that is going to be built on behalf of Cheung Industries from Shanghai, but there is no information in the article suggesting that Triad's leader in Hong Kong is named Cheung whatsoever. Besides, Shanghai is located in China, not Hong Kong to be more precise. 

 

Going to the next statement "Triads have been working with Yakuza higher-ups, implying they were allied", I am gonna take a wild guess (since you didn't provide the source) and say you refer to the article named "Gangs Rife on our City Streets, Corruption Everywhere" released also in May 2001. I suppose your conclusion came from this particular sentence "At present, it is believed Japanese gangsters have begun to flex their muscles in Liberty City, joining the Chinese gangs, thought to be Triads who have been operating in Liberty City since the Hong Kong handover in 1997." Unfortunately, I have to disagree with you on that one either because joining doesn't necessarily mean they were allies. I would rather say they "joined" as if the Triads were already there and only now Yakuza started operating in Liberty City on a higher scale. This makes far more sense in my opinion since in the game itself, we don't see even one instance of Yakuza and Triads being allied (both in GTA 3 and GTA LCS). You could argue that they are not fighting each other, but it doesn't necessarily mean they are allies, they could be also neutral since they operate on two different islands and don't have a conflict of interests. 

Exactly correct on both. I guess I misread the latter, in hindsight it would make more sense for them to be allied with the Colombians based on the SPANK.

On the former I'm still not 100%, someone has to be running the Triads and Cheung is the only real candidate

On 11/7/2023 at 2:28 AM, Martin4004 said:

As for these statements, they are true 100% although luckily, there is a "way" to pin down when approximately Columbian Cartel started operating in Liberty City. This is possible due to Barry Harcross's scandal which was brought back to light by Liberty Tree in February 2001. Namely, in 1997, Barry Harcross was accused by the FBI of "laundering money for the mob in his construction business, of importing more than flowers from his Colombian office, and of doing a whole host of other crimes too slanderous to mention here." Exact words from the article, pay attention to the parts that are bolded. Construction business? Things that the Colombians are "specialized in"? Colombian office? These two little details perfectly show that this businessman was working with the Colombian Cartel back in 1997, so I think that we could easily say that Colombians were in Liberty City at least from 1997 based on this article. 

That checks out, as by the time of LCS(Early-Mid May 1998 based on the website) they already control most of Shoreside outside of Pike Creek(which is Yakuza controlled in that game and...maybe in 3, it's not super clear actually) and Wichita Gardens(which is Forelli run, albeit the Hoods already existed). They're definitely not a super new gang in the way that the Diablos and Triads are though, so I'm inclined to think it's a bit older of an operation than that. Especially since there's ped dialogue in LCS that implies some of them came from the collapsed Cartels in Vice City(Diaz, Gonzalez, and Mendezs operations all fell within 2 years)

Edited November 8, 2023 by Anywhere USA

[salazarcosplay]

You could make it between III and IV. How the gangs in IV came into power

[Luciano89]

2 hours ago, salazarcosplay said:

You could make it between III and IV. How the gangs in IV came into power

What do you mean? LOL

 

GTA III (and all the games of 3D Era) and IV are not in the same universe.

[salazarcosplay]

On 11/10/2023 at 12:20 PM, Luciano89 said:

What do you mean? LOL

 

GTA III (and all the games of 3D Era) and IV are not in the same universe.

while this is true there was a power vaccum 

[salazarcosplay]

On 10/29/2023 at 6:03 AM, Jupiter69 said:

what do you think ?

Follow the Leone family. Follow Joey. Tony takes over, and Joey comes to terms that he pissed away upholding his father's legacy and has to work his way to becoming don 

[Anywhere USA]

On 11/7/2023 at 2:28 AM, Martin4004 said:

As for these statements, they are true 100% although luckily, there is a "way" to pin down when approximately Columbian Cartel started operating in Liberty City. This is possible due to Barry Harcross's scandal which was brought back to light by Liberty Tree in February 2001. Namely, in 1997, Barry Harcross was accused by the FBI of "laundering money for the mob in his construction business, of importing more than flowers from his Colombian office, and of doing a whole host of other crimes too slanderous to mention here." Exact words from the article, pay attention to the parts that are bolded. Construction business? Things that the Colombians are "specialized in"? Colombian office? These two little details perfectly show that this businessman was working with the Colombian Cartel back in 1997, so I think that we could easily say that Colombians were in Liberty City at least from 1997 based on this article. 

 

You might be able to help me with this

[dictatorial]

Follow the Forelli Crime Family instead. Would much rather see how the Leones and Forellis initially began their beef in Liberty City, and also more history on the two families. 

Edited December 6, 2023 by dictatorial

[salazarcosplay]

On 12/6/2023 at 5:53 PM, dictatorial said:

Follow the Forelli Crime Family instead. Would much rather see how the Leones and Forellis initially began their beef in Liberty City, and also more history on the two families. 

I think it would be good to have the game go from 1968 till about 2001 as the Forelli Family. Switch between different Forelli family members.

[Yinepi]

On 12/11/2023 at 7:03 AM, salazarcosplay said:

I think it would be good to have the game go from 1968 till about 2001 as the Forelli Family. Switch between different Forelli family members.

How many was it 10? No 11 men. That's how you get to be called the Harwood Butcher!

Anyway, I vote the cartels. I'd like to see how they redeem themselves after such a big hit.

Edited February 8, 2024 by Yinepi

[Copcaller]

yakuza play as another kasen sent to conquer liberty city. 

[Patrick10]

As I believe, the Yakuza loses its power over time and liberates many of its territories, as well as closes casinos. The Colombian cartel may well completely lose all its strength and a kind of "underground against the Yakuza" and end its existence, the Leone family decomposes greatly and begins to keep only Tony's restaurant and closes the mansion. The triads continue to live their lives and do not rush anywhere in terms of superiority in the criminal layer of Liberty City, they continue to protect small cafes and laundries