Gta IV on the wii

[tophatgaming]

I get the title alone raises more then a few eyebrows but hear me out, rockstar did release three games on the wii, one of them was even on the rage engine, granted it was rockstar presents table tennis but even so it proved it was possible.
You can actually find discussions from around 2008 about this topic, and every one of them seemingly dismissed the wii as not a real console, which is to be expected, but what if gta iv did end up on the wii, likely cut down significantly, what happens next?

[LilSprite]

The only way I could imagine a GTA game on the Wii is if it was a first person/3rd person perspective on using motion sensors to shoot and move around like an on rail shooter. Definitely it wouldn't have been the same GTA we've known since forever. Maybe the Wii U would have had an ability to run a potato Ultra Low graphics modded version of GTA4.. Maybe add in the wheel to make the driving a bit better. 

[tophatgaming]

1 hour ago, LilSprite said:

The only way I could imagine a GTA game on the Wii is if it was a first person/3rd person perspective on using motion sensors to shoot and move around like an on rail shooter. Definitely it wouldn't have been the same GTA we've known since forever. Maybe the Wii U would have had an ability to run a potato Ultra Low graphics modded version of GTA4.. Maybe add in the wheel to make the driving a bit better. 

I have to point out the wii u was not that weak, it was actually on par with 7th gen consoles if not better in some aspects, as for your argument, consider that the wii also wasn't as weak as you would imagine, gta iv would have to be streamlined considerably, but it could be ran

[tophatgaming]

you can actually find internet posts from 2008 laughing at the idea the wii could handle gta iv, dismissing the system as not even a real console, I believe the system could very well handle the game, if extremely barebones, the wii u could easily handle the game and would likely bring it up to the graphical fidelity of gta v

[Moncastler]

The Wii was much worse than PS3 and Xbox 360 and it ran all games at a maximum resolution of 480p or 576i, probably the Wii U managed to match the power of the other 2 Gen7 consoles. GTA IV barely ran on PS3, resolution was 640p and the whole image was a blurry mess, performance was constantly in the low 20 FPS zone... Honestly I really don't see how GTA IV could have run on the Wii at a decent resolution/framerate.

 

I don't dismiss Nintendo's systems as not a real consoles, but it's clear that since the Wii Nintendo has tried to differentiate themselves from Microsoft and Sony. In the last 20 years Nintendo always had the least powerful console in the generation, which is a very big limiting factor for most AAA games. I'm not surprised that people were laughing at a possible GTA IV Wii release back in 2008.

[Krymefull]

36 minutes ago, Moncastler said:

I'm not surprised that people were laughing at a possible GTA IV Wii release back in 2008.

Let's be real here, chief - it could've gone worse. IV would be a stripped-back, bare to the bones Wii port with half the content removed for storage's sake, textures and models being much worse for hardware's sake and added gimmicklly Wii remote motion controls for this console's gimmick sake.

[cant remember]

Throwback to this, some people even fell for it back then

 

 

[Krymefull]

39 minutes ago, cant remember said:

Throwback to this, some people even fell for it back then

 

Man, I miss GTA machinimas so much. Back when they're done with love, creativity and passion. Now, 90% of GTA content is just capesh*t compilations and ENB garbage. It's depressing seeing it go out like this. 

[tophatgaming]

On 10/29/2023 at 1:46 PM, DubiousThiny said:

Let's be real here, chief - it could've gone worse. IV would be a stripped-back, bare to the bones Wii port with half the content removed for storage's sake, textures and models being much worse for hardware's sake and added gimmicklly Wii remote motion controls for this console's gimmick sake.

was the wii even that under powered? I've always believed it to be about the same as the gamecube but is that actually true? another thing, the motion controls weren't as bad as you would think, for starters for most games they were entirely optional

[Krymefull]

14 minutes ago, tophatgaming said:

was the wii even that under powered? I've always believed it to be about the same as the gamecube but is that actually true?

The Wii is just a beefed up GameCube. It was still using the 2001 hardware with some minor tweaks and performance improvements so people wouldn't notice that it was the same re-released console with just a different name and shape.

14 minutes ago, tophatgaming said:

another thing, the motion controls weren't as bad as you would think, for starters for most games they were entirely optional

I hate to be these type of people, but I am not a big fan of motion controls in videogames. More power to you if you find them innovative, but I really never found the appeal, or even liked getting my ass off the coach just so I can shake my remote to do some basic action that I could've easily done with a push of a button. It's a essential part of the Wii's iconography, but it's one that I never liked it or found it good enough for the console to stand out on its own.

[Guest]

Driver Parallel Lines is closest we got to GTA IV on Wii. Played that across all platforms, some real hardware and emus.

Edited October 30, 2023 by Bizz91

[tophatgaming]

1 hour ago, DubiousThiny said:

The Wii is just a beefed up GameCube. It was still using the 2001 hardware with some minor tweaks and performance improvements so people wouldn't notice that it was the same re-released console with just a different name and shape.

I hate to be these type of people, but I am not a big fan of motion controls in videogames. More power to you if you find them innovative, but I really never found the appeal, or even liked getting my ass off the coach just so I can shake my remote to do some basic action that I could've easily done with a push of a button. It's a essential part of the Wii's iconography, but it's one that I never liked it or found it good enough for the console to stand out on its own.

to be fair the first game I ever played was wii sports resort so I might be a tad biased, but yeah I agree, in regards to the hardware, would it be powerful enough to run gta iv? the cutscenes would obviously need to go but anything else? also rockstar toronto would've likely handled the port as they did with manhunt 2 and bully

[Moncastler]

22 minutes ago, tophatgaming said:

to be fair the first game I ever played was wii sports resort so I might be a tad biased, but yeah I agree, in regards to the hardware, would it be powerful enough to run gta iv? the cutscenes would obviously need to go but anything else? also rockstar toronto would've likely handled the port as they did with manhunt 2 and bully

It has historically been difficult for third party studios to match the level of visual quality and performance that Nintendo is able to achieve, the Wii for example had the 2 Mario Galaxy games which were very impressive. GTA IV is a different beast tho, no games released on the Wii can match the graphical and physical complexity that Rockstar was able to achieve. Bully and Manhunt 2 are PS2 games, the port in those cases were quite easy to do given that the target platform was more powerful than the original one. The Trilogy could have probably been ported to the Wii, seems a much more realistic port compared to IV.

[tophatgaming]

25 minutes ago, Moncastler said:

It has historically been difficult for third party studios to match the level of visual quality and performance that Nintendo is able to achieve, the Wii for example had the 2 Mario Galaxy games which were very impressive. GTA IV is a different beast tho, no games released on the Wii can match the graphical and physical complexity that Rockstar was able to achieve. Bully and Manhunt 2 are PS2 games, the port in those cases were quite easy to do given that the target platform was more powerful than the original one. The Trilogy could have probably been ported to the Wii, seems a much more realistic port compared to IV.

I considered making a post about that but gta iv was the latest game in the series and the one everyone would have their eyes on, another option is chinatown wars, which could've easily been a wii game, possibly on the rage engine

[salazarcosplay]

On 10/21/2023 at 6:20 PM, tophatgaming said:

I get the title alone raises more then a few eyebrows but hear me out, rockstar did release three games on the wii, one of them was even on the rage engine, granted it was rockstar presents table tennis but even so it proved it was possible.
You can actually find discussions from around 2008 about this topic, and every one of them seemingly dismissed the wii as not a real console, which is to be expected, but what if gta iv did end up on the wii, likely cut down significantly, what happens next?

i think you definetly could have had a watered down port if you tried enough. I mean they were able to get the mainline call of duty games on the wii. It it would have bene too hard I think something that could have done would have been a watered down engine with lower textures and resolution.

More drastically they could have made a "GTA IV" wii version that used the engine from liberty city stories or even san andreas. I think people would have been okay with that gta is gta. 

[tophatgaming]

On 11/10/2023 at 7:32 AM, salazarcosplay said:

i think you definetly could have had a watered down port if you tried enough. I mean they were able to get the mainline call of duty games on the wii. It it would have bene too hard I think something that could have done would have been a watered down engine with lower textures and resolution.

More drastically they could have made a "GTA IV" wii version that used the engine from liberty city stories or even san andreas. I think people would have been okay with that gta is gta. 

that could work, and you wouldn't have to sacrifice cutscenes

[BloxedRetro]

On 10/29/2023 at 4:33 AM, tophatgaming said:

you can actually find internet posts from 2008 laughing at the idea the wii could handle gta iv, dismissing the system as not even a real console, I believe the system could very well handle the game, if extremely barebones, the wii u could easily handle the game and would likely bring it up to the graphical fidelity of gta v

I really don't believe it would, cuz the Wii was basically built around the power of the Gamecube, which itself was less powerful than the original XBOX iirc, and that struggled to run Half-Life 2. The RAGE engine could work but-

 

Actually as I'm writing this it sounds possible but with alot of cutbacks that wouldn't make it worth it.

[ZodaEX]

that could work, and you wouldn't have to sacrifice cutscenes

Edited December 20, 2024 by ZodaEX

[MrEWhite]

4 hours ago, ZodaEX said:

You're also wrong about original Xbox running Half-Life 2. HL2 never released on the original Xbox. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Yes it did.

[Patrick10]

The Wii came out later than GTA 4, if I'm not mistaken, and this console would hardly have pulled GTA 5 elementary, the people who bought this console understood perfectly well that they would only see a bump from heaven from rockstar instead of GTA