Which characters did you not want to kill?

[GTA4FAN290802]

 For me, the answer is clear, Ray Boccino. He was such an important character to the storyline and located Florian Cravic for Niko on top of that. Plus, I can’t help but feel his death was a bit lazy/rushed. A character that was that crucial should have at least been killed far more “up, close, and personal”.

 

 Side Note: Unpopular opinion, I know Francis’s death is determinant and not canon, but I chose to kill Derrick instead of Francis because at least Francis has a life ahead of him and is trying to do some good in the world, despite being a hypocritical crook. Derrick, on the other hand, is a useless rat junkie who was better off dead anyways.

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Vlad. He wasn't a good guy but didn't really need to be eliminated. I don't think sleeping with Mallorie deserved death, even if she was Roman's girlfriend. And even so, Niko got guilted by Roman calling him disloyal and only then went and whacked him. I liked Vlad too

[Niobium]

For me, all characters who were killed by the 3 protagonists deserved it, minus some optional ones

 

Maybe Ray is the exception, because although every single character says he's slimy, he always fulfilled his end of the bargain to Niko and Johnny and never really screwed them. I think it was just poor writing

 

30 minutes ago, String said:

Vlad. He wasn't a good guy but didn't really need to be eliminated. I don't think sleeping with Mallorie deserved death, even if she was Roman's girlfriend. And even so, Niko got guilted by Roman calling him disloyal and only then went and whacked him. I liked Vlad too

Vlad totally deserved it, he was a bum and a bully

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15 minutes ago, Niobium said:

For me, all characters who were killed by the 3 protagonists deserved it, minus some optional ones

 

Maybe Ray is the exception, because although every single character says he's slimy, he always fulfilled his end of the bargain to Niko and Johnny and never really screwed them. I think it was just poor writing

 

Vlad totally deserved it, he was a bum and a bully

Being a bum and a bully doesn't deserve death.

[Niobium]

1 minute ago, String said:

Being a bum and a bully doesn't deserve death.

Niko tried the more diplomatic option at Vlad's bar, then Vlad mocked that "Roman was upset" and sent his goons to beat up Niko

 

What did you want him to do? The Bellics had to stand up for themselves if they were going to survive in this country, which was what Niko was trying to tell Roman

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10 minutes ago, Niobium said:

The Bellics had to stand up for themselves if they were going to survive in this country, which was what Niko was trying to tell Roman

Vlad wasnt a good guy but I dont think he would have gone and killed Niko until Niko started chasing him across the streets of LC, something which Niko himself tells Roman ( you think he wont come after us while I am chasing him like this?). I dont think survival was the question when it came to Vlad (till Niko himself decided to end him), imo it was Niko getting enraged after Roman's disloyal user spiel

 

10 minutes ago, Niobium said:

What did you want him to do?

Preferably not kill Vlad, lol. Look Vlad wasnt a good guy and I get it, its the criminal world and he was in the game so hes fair game. The story works with Vlad getting eliminated and moving on to the big fish Mikhail and DImitri. But pertaining to what the topic asks, I would not want Vlad killed especially since I thought killing him was not required and it imo is one of Niko's more hot headed moments.

Edited Monday at 05:55 AM by String

[Niobium]

2 minutes ago, String said:

Vlad wasnt a good guy but I dont think he would have gone and killed Niko until Niko started chasing him across the streets of LC, something which Niko himself tells Roman ( you think he wont come after us while I am chasing him like this?). I dont think survival was the question when it came to Vlad, imo it was Niko getting enraged after Roman's disloyal user spiel

 

Preferably not kill Vlad, lol. Look Vlad wasnt a good guy and I get it, its the criminal world and he was in the game so hes fair game. The story works with Vlad getting eliminated and moving on to the big fish Mikhail and DImitri. But pertaining to what the topic asks, I would not want Vlad killed especially since I thought killing him was not required and it imo is one of Niko's more hot headed moments.

 

I can concede to Niko acting out of emotion, which is a character flaw of his that Roman points out. I still think Niko did the right thing though

[Harwood Butch3r]

Aiden O Malley.

 

Even though he was a very minor character who didn’t have any bearing on the story simply for the fact I didn’t like Derrick very much I didn’t like doing favours for him.

 

Plus it’s pretty messed to be sprung out of out going to prison just to be silenced. I get it, but I wish there was an option to spare him like some other characters.

Edited Monday at 01:14 PM by Harwood Butch3r

[Bratva Assassin]

Aidan O’Malley. Sure, he was a very minor character who didn’t really have any bearing on the storyline one way or another but it only goes to show just how much of a snake in the grass Derrick McReary really is. This guy is also a very minor character who also has no bearing on the storyline really but I would also have to go with Marlon Bridges (I think that’s his name). Playboy X makes you kill him just because he was loyal to Dwayne IIRC. That goes to show that Playboy X is also quite the snake in the grass. Those two factors alone make me enjoy offing Playboy X and Derrick McReary.

[San An Strangler]

Yeah Aiden's a tough kill. You're really only eliminating him for doing what Derrick himself has done multiple times. Grass on people. And Derrick ends up dead anyway so it's a pretty pointless hit. The guy was just trying to serve his sentence.. Interestingly there's actually a deleted Cutscene that was supposed to play after killing Aiden where Niko will show regret and dissatisfaction about having to kill an unarmed man. I wish they had kept it. 

[DubiousThiny]

2 hours ago, San An Strangler said:

Interestingly there's actually a deleted Cutscene that was supposed to play after killing Aiden where Niko will show regret and dissatisfaction about having to kill an unarmed man.

Really? I've never ever heard of that cut cutscene before. Can you link me a video to that cutscene? 

[Midnight Dutch]

9 hours ago, String said:

Being a bum and a bully doesn't deserve death.

Perhaps not, but eventually he surely would have done something that crossed the line and would have been green lit.  After all, as a loan shark you’re supposed to be tough and disrespectful.. but in the real world disrespecting the wrong man for the wrong reason can get a man killed; and he was extremely disrespectful of others such as Niko who did not owe him anything. 

 

Vlad may not have deserved death right then and there, but eventually, he would have stepped on the wrong man’s shoes.  It was only a matter of time for Vlad.

[San An Strangler]

7 hours ago, DubiousThiny said:

Really? I've never ever heard of that cut cutscene before. Can you link me a video to that cutscene? 

https://youtu.be/yN_aIFgb_rs?si=0bU7ViS2H1IwSexH

[Jeansowaty]

Aiden is an obvious one but that's been said why and what. My other honorable mentions go to Oleg Minkov and Luca Silvestri. Oleg solely because it seemed like he got himself involved in something he shouldn't have, he struck me as being quite innocent and not understanding what he's getting into. Luca, mostly because Ray did NOT want him and his boys dead and Luca wanted to give up the diamonds anyway. Felt like they just wanted to include a goofy "lel he flushes the toilet as he slips away" cutscene and walking away would be synonymous with leaving diamonds I guess. 

 

There's also Ahmed in TBOGT, Luis acted like an idiot in that mission imo but then again so did Ahmed by not parachuting himself and leaving it for Luis lol. It'd have been maybe more cinematic if he did parachute and you had to snipe him in the air.

[B Dawg]

Mikhail Faustin and Ray Boccino.