Rucke Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Seems like Michael Unsworth has left Rockstar as well now. Of course all the writing for the main story of GTA VI must be completed by now. Pretty sure most of the commercials and ped dialogue is finished as well. But it will be interesting to see if this will impact the writing on future Rockstar titles even more. Michael Unsworth's linkedin UltraGizmo64, Andrea95, sanjay3207 and 9 others 4 1 1 1 2 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanjay3207 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 57 minutes ago, Rucke said: Seems like Michael Unsworth has left Rockstar as well now. Of course all the writing for the main story of GTA VI must be completed by now. Pretty sure most of the commercials and ped dialogue is finished as well. But it will be interesting to see if this will impact the writing on future Rockstar titles even more. Michael Unsworth's linkedin If he Michael unsworth left Rockstar games, T2 would have communicated it to their investors. He isn't just any other dev, he is probably leading the writing team at Rockstar. This is probably nothing or he got promoted to another role. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Vice Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, sanjay3207 said: If he Michael unsworth left Rockstar games, T2 would have communicated it to their investors. He isn't just any other dev, he is probably leading the writing team at Rockstar. This is probably nothing or he got promoted to another role. Also even if he did leave... so what? This isn't directed at you, I just don't get this Internet thing of people idolising singular creatives, there's already PLENTY of other people in writing teams working on the games, the writing teams have never been JUST Dan/Michael/Rupert. There's crap tons of other writers of all/neither genders and walks of life, and everyone can see it in the recently-published credits pages. 15 years at a company in the games industry is a sh*t ton of time, turn over for most developers including leads is a lot lower. This is literally a non-issue especially when VI's writing is probably already pretty much set in stone by now. Your Neil Druckmanns and Cory Barlogs are gonna quit one day too. There's always this nonsense collective panic when one big creative leaves a games company (this isn't R* community specific), as if they are the ONLY ONES behind the projects. Johnny Blackbird, babydracula, Kumieee and 17 others 16 1 2 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakeWithMe1000 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Rucke said: Seems like Michael Unsworth has left Rockstar as well now. Of course all the writing for the main story of GTA VI must be completed by now. Pretty sure most of the commercials and ped dialogue is finished as well. But it will be interesting to see if this will impact the writing on future Rockstar titles even more. Michael Unsworth's linkedin Kinda crazy the VP of writing left now, might indicate the story is done and he now wants to pursue a different career? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Vice Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Rucke said: Seems like Michael Unsworth has left Rockstar as well now. Of course all the writing for the main story of GTA VI must be completed by now. Pretty sure most of the commercials and ped dialogue is finished as well. But it will be interesting to see if this will impact the writing on future Rockstar titles even more. Michael Unsworth's linkedin Also, as usual, this was posted first on the forums and it's already been tweeted out without a source 30 mins later lmao. sanjay3207, deadasdisco, TheBigDrink and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Causality Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Spider-Vice said: Christ there goes this thread again with IV vs. V. Go to another thread for this crap (they do exist iirc), I'm removing it, everyone's tired of it repeating over and over in the GTA VI thread. Edit: Moving on. With Retro_Casualty once again having a melty over the protagonists I see? You ask this 6 times a month now too man. im just waiting for october, once the reveal happens i will be in peace sanjay3207 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRANDHEIST Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Rucke said: Seems like Michael Unsworth has left Rockstar as well now. Michael Unsworth's linkedin The one irreplaceable person who will never leave: Pedinhuh, Spider-Vice, Xilurm and 16 others 1 1 16 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daltontigerboy Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Spider-Vice said: Your Neil Druckmanns are gonna quit one day too. God willing. Edited August 26, 2023 by daltontigerboy AllData, Agent Tanner and Sneaky Queeky 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Causality Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 auteur theory is sh*t and we still act like its a real thing int the game industry Spider-Vice and AllData 1 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Vice Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Now there's something you've said I agree with. It's bullsh*t everywhere, people still hook on to singular creatives for some reason, when nothing in the entertainment industry works in singles. It's a masssive team effort that most times is comprised by other equally talented people, sometimes more. Yes, it happens, new blood CAN be more talented and creative than old blood. daltontigerboy, Mr.Marston, KVRTSEZ and 5 others 2 1 4 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderVice_Sucks Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 35 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said: Also even if he did leave... so what? This isn't directed at you, I just don't get this Internet thing of people idolising singular creatives, there's already PLENTY of other people in writing teams working on the games, the writing teams have never been JUST Dan/Michael/Rupert. There's crap tons of other writers of all/neither genders and walks of life, and everyone can see it in the recently-published credits pages. 15 years at a company in the games industry is a sh*t ton of time, turn over for most developers including leads is a lot lower. This is literally a non-issue especially when VI's writing is probably already pretty much set in stone by now. Your Neil Druckmanns and Cory Barlogs are gonna quit one day too. There's always this nonsense collective panic when one big creative leaves a games company (this isn't R* community specific), as if they are the ONLY ONES behind the projects. + always things change slightly, as how some leave and others join, it can either change in a little better, much better or reverse. If many OG leaders would leave for example, it doesn't mean it can be worser (that's only if we get unlucky), but, as we know R* , they only hire skilled people. Just imagine how many different people developed RDR2 than GTA San Andreas for example Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daltontigerboy Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 40 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said: Also even if he did leave... so what? There's always this nonsense collective panic when one big creative leaves a games company as if they are the ONLY ONES behind the projects. 13 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said: It's bullsh*t everywhere, people still hook on to singular creatives for some reason, when nothing in the entertainment industry works in singles. Yeah you’d really have a point…if only it was one big creative. How many has it been now? At some point, the soul of a company walks right out the door with the many people who built it. In my opinion you’re way off base with this “So what, it’s just one guy” rhetoric. We’re wayyyyy passed that at this point. That may have held some water back when Leslie left. Hotband, AllData, Agent Tanner and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Vice Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Considering your comment about the Sony writers earlier I'm not gonna argue with you because I know where this will end up discourse-wise. Ironic that you think this is a problem but Neil Druckmann or Cory Barlog leaving wouldn't be a problem ("God willing.") just because you dislike them and the studios. You keep on drinking your kool-aid. Over the years the eldest creatives in a studio WILL leave, and they will be replaced by newer ones, as everything in life. It does not mean the quality of what is being produced will go down. This applies to Rockstar Games, to ZA/UM, to any film or show studio, to any big games studio. Rockstar are barely BioWare or whatever. There's other people who have worked alongside those other creatives and can perfectly carry the torch, NOTHING hinges on any specific creatives just because they've been at a company for long. We aren't even talking about collective sudden departures, it's been years between each of the departures you describe, so my point stll applies, is true, and any serious game developer at any studio would tell you the same. Because your discourse is the kind of thing devs keep fighting against on social media, just to give one example. Absolutely daft. Agent Tanner and SpiderVice_Sucks 1 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
And It Came To Pass Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 I can’t really see this f*cking thing. where does it say he left, what’s he doing now anyway, it’s less about seeing these blokes as art deities and more about seeing them as old hands who know what they’re doing. sh*t, other people might be more talented but I think it’s fair to wonder if their replacements have spent the same time at the coalface (they prob. have tho) Agent Tanner 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Vice Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lie said: I can’t really see this f*cking thing. where does it say he left, what’s he doing now His LinkedIn says "-2023" for Rockstar Games, but his current position still says "Writer", just not specifying a company. Would be mighty funny if he was still at R* but just not publicising it on LinkedIn anymore. He probably did leave though, but if anything it's probably a good sign for GTA VI's development as main writing is probably done. Seriously, some of these people have been in the industry for like nearly 2 decades, they're not gonna stay in the same place forever and will leave after a sh*t ton of big projects. Staying in AAA studios doing big games with 7+ years of dev time is unsustainable for many nowadays. Plus, they're not of young age anymore either. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
And It Came To Pass Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 it sucks that these people have families and interests outside of work, man. Let’s keep them locked in the writer’s room on a diet of coffee and fags forever IzzyBlues, Agent Tanner and neoslice 1 1 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daltontigerboy Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said: Considering your comment about the Sony writers earlier I'm not gonna argue with you because I know where this will end up discourse-wise. Ironic that you think this is a problem but Neil Druckmann or Cory Barlog leaving wouldn't be a problem ("God willing.") just because you dislike them and the studios. You keep on drinking your kool-aid. Over the years the eldest creatives in a studio WILL leave, and they will be replaced by newer ones, as everything in life. It does not mean the quality of what is being produced will go down. This applies to Rockstar Games, to ZA/UM, to any film or show studio, to any big games studio. Rockstar are barely BioWare or whatever. There's other people who have worked alongside those other creatives and can perfectly carry the torch, NOTHING hinges on any specific creatives just because they've been at a company for long. We aren't even talking about collective sudden departures, it's been years between each of the departures you describe, so my point stll applies, is true, and any serious game developer at any studio would tell you the same. Because your discourse is the kind of thing devs keep fighting against on social media, just to give one example. Absolutely daft. I’m not here killing these guys for leaving. Yeah, 15 to 20 years at a company - no one is blaming someone for moving on after that. My point is that the direction of a company and the quality of the product absolutely can and will be affected after so many key creatives have left. If one wants to see how much influence one creative can have on a single game, look no further than The Last of Us 2. Sure, new creatives can step in and carry the torch, but look at the state of the games industry as a whole these days. Are you really gonna argue that the torch is being carried better than it was, say…15 years ago? Now that is daft. Edited August 26, 2023 by daltontigerboy AllData, Spider-Vice, NightmanCometh96 and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Sikee Atric Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, daltontigerboy said: Sure, new creatives can step in and carry the torch, but look at the state of the games industry these days. Are you really gonna argue that the torch is being carried better than it was, say…15 years ago? Now that is daft. It very much depends on the team! I watch the Indie scene and revel in the work done there. People like Tynan Sylvester have very different drives and goals other than shareholders and targets. That is old-school dedication and beliefs in what they're making and building upon. daltontigerboy 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOverlookHotel Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, daltontigerboy said: I’m not here killing these guys for leaving. Yeah, 15 to 20 years at a company - no one is blaming someone for moving on after that. My point is that the direction of a company and the quality of the product absolutely can and will be affected after so many key creatives have left. If one wants to see how much influence one creative can have on a single game, look no further than The Last of Us 2. Sure, new creatives can step in and carry the torch, but look at the state of the games industry as a whole these days. Are you really gonna argue that the torch is being carried better than it was, say…15 years ago? Now that is daft. Absolutely wild concept, but you never had the thought that the new writer(s) coming in could be even *gasp* better?? Krooked_, Orthur, AllData and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdowns84 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, ionutx02 said: but, as we know R* , they only hire skilled people. Just imagine how many different people developed RDR2 than GTA San Andreas for example I agree. There is talent that wants to have their work shown esp in the most anticipated video game currently to be developed. SpiderVice_Sucks 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderVice_Sucks Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said: Considering your comment about the Sony writers earlier I'm not gonna argue with you because I know where this will end up discourse-wise. Ironic that you think this is a problem but Neil Druckmann or Cory Barlog leaving wouldn't be a problem ("God willing.") just because you dislike them and the studios. You keep on drinking your kool-aid. Over the years the eldest creatives in a studio WILL leave, and they will be replaced by newer ones, as everything in life. It does not mean the quality of what is being produced will go down. This applies to Rockstar Games, to ZA/UM, to any film or show studio, to any big games studio. Rockstar are barely BioWare or whatever. There's other people who have worked alongside those other creatives and can perfectly carry the torch, NOTHING hinges on any specific creatives just because they've been at a company for long. We aren't even talking about collective sudden departures, it's been years between each of the departures you describe, so my point stll applies, is true, and any serious game developer at any studio would tell you the same. Because your discourse is the kind of thing devs keep fighting against on social media, just to give one example. Absolutely daft. From what I understand Leslie Benzies barely worked on RDR2 right? And is still the best Rockstar title for both features and story wise. I can't wait for GTA VI to release, then we find out the story is still good as RDR2's one, giving Dan Houser as example. He already left on 11 March 2020, even if he already wrote the story foundation for GTA VI. GTA VI is still a game that was worked by many veterans, so we won't really see the changes of "Developers are leaving and the games will be bad" thing. I also wait for the next title after GTA VI to see that developer departures really doesn't affect the development of future games. They can even become much better and more unique because different developers will join and others leave. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
And It Came To Pass Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 it’s still a pretty new industry really though, and it’s growing too. so the torch flame just gets hotter and hotter…or brighter…or something. but you know what, I had a quick look at npd top selling games chart 15 years ago vs last year. kinda looks like the same old same old, maybe a little more variety in 2022. S’not so bad Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
met. Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 What if tho... 44Orca, Andrea95, Obito Uchiha and 6 others 9 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
And It Came To Pass Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 I’m starving hungry brb Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daltontigerboy Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, TheOverlookHotel said: Absolutely wild concept, but you never had the thought that the new writer(s) coming in could be even *gasp* better?? Totally possible and welcome. Unfortunately when looking at the industry as a whole over the last 5 years, there's not a ton of evidence to support that the new school of talent (especially on the writing side) is better than what we had before. In fact there's a good bit of evidence to the contrary. This is certainly not an objective thing to argue though. One man's trash is no doubt another man's treasure. Agent Tanner, Tacitus and Sneaky Queeky 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
And It Came To Pass Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Guess Unsworth won’t be getting credit, seeing as he’s leaving midway through a project American Venom 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Vice Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Lie said: Guess Unsworth won’t be getting credit, seeing as he’s leaving midway through a project He will lol, much like his position was still being updated in the GTA Online credits. If anything the writing is mostly finished so he's felt comfortable in leaving now, so he'd be credited. And It Came To Pass 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoover69 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Time for Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould to make their move and join up with Rockstar Games lol Franc_1397, Isuck100%, Tacitus and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdowns84 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Spider-Vice said: He will lol, much like his position was still being updated in the GTA Online credits. If anything the writing is mostly finished so he's felt comfortable in leaving now, so he'd be credited. 2 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said: He will lol, much like his position was still being updated in the GTA Online credits. If anything the writing is mostly finished so he's felt comfortable in leaving now, so he'd be credited. I am assuming the game possibly is complete start to finish.. if so, Zelnick is rubbing his palms together. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Vice Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 I mean, the game itself won't be but the narrative beats are most likely close to set in stone if not fully so. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/992488-has-michael-unsworth-left-rockstar-games/#findComment-1072203368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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