Would you consider 100% canon?

[Going_To_Aruba_01]

I feel the majority of you guys here would, but some of the implications of what the player characters would have to do in order to achieve it would be kinda funny imo.

Such as, Claude canonically stealing every possible vehicle in the game at least once and having amassed a giant collection of God knows how many kg of SPANK or coke or whatever the hidden packages are, druglord kingpin Tommy Vercetti racing RC cars on the beach on his off days and delivering pizza, CJ having a magic shell collection that makes him irresistible to women and overall being a pro at everything, mob capo Toni owning a giant rooster costume, 99 innocent red balloons hanging around town only to gunned down in broad daylight by an ex-soldier, Niko taking time out of his revenge quest to brutally murder 200 pigeons just to aid in stopping the spread of diseases in a city he doesn't even care for all that much, all 3 V protagonists becoming addicted to peyote etc, etc, etc.

 

I could go on all day about how much it amuses me to imagine them doing these things but in all seriousness my point is, what would you people's opinions be on 100%? How much could have realistically happened and could have fit into the story? Which side activities would the protags have done if it was up to them and, for what reason? Which half could have realistically occured and actually happened in the game's events and what half is just chalked up to being in there for the sake of "you know... its a video game at the end of the day" and isnt supposed to be taken literally, When would they find the time throughout the story? and so on...

I want to know if I'm to only one that has such a boring life that they start considering how funny and nonsensical some of these tasks are if you think about them too long lol.

 

Please share your thoughts!!

[PULLANDBEAR]

[universetwisters]

2 hours ago, Going_To_Aruba_01 said:

mob capo Toni owning a giant rooster costume

Have you ever considered the possibility that he’s a furry?

[Silver]

18 hours ago, universetwisters said:

Have you ever considered the possibility that he’s a furry?

Having completed LCS multiple times wearing only this peculiar yet fashionable outfit, I can safely assert that it is not only canon, but that Mr. Toni Cipriani is indeed a proud furry.

Edited June 3, 2023 by Legomanarthur

[R_DeSanta]

Good question, although I can only really respond about GTA V, because that’s the only game that I’ve completed the 100% of.

 

Personally, I think it would make sense if everything in the game (story missions, Strangers & Freaks missions, random events, hangouts, house interactions, collectibles, challenges etc.) is canon, because otherwise I don’t see why it would be put in the game. Obvious exceptions would be the ending missions (ending A and ending B) and maybe some things that not all players can access (returning player content for example).

 

But honestly, I think the only way to really find out what’s supposed to be canon is by seeing the things that are referenced in GTA Online, and GTA VI when it comes out. If GTA Online is canon (which is likely, but not confirmed IIRC), it’s safe to say that the main story missions, certain heist approaches and Strangers & Freaks missions are canon, because certain dialogues and character appearances directly refer to it.

[Evil empire]

Of course the 100% are canon, the protagonists are so impatient to enjoy GTA 6 they do everything they can to kill time.

[dictatorial]

I like to think CJ actually did tag up 100 Balla/Vago graffitis across Los Santos to put GSF back on the map homie!

[Carbonox]

On 6/3/2023 at 3:10 AM, universetwisters said:

Have you ever considered the possibility that he’s a furry?

Or maybe he just really, really likes the Cocks.

[universetwisters]

10 hours ago, Legomanarthur said:

Having completed LCS multiple times wearing only this peculiar yet fashionable outfit, I can safely assert that it is not only canon, but that Mr. Toni Cipriani is indeed a proud furry.

 

3 hours ago, Carbonox said:

Or maybe he just really, really likes the Cocks.

 

It makes perfect sense! Not only does Toni have issues settling down with ladies but also has mommy issues

[cant remember]

This opens a whole can of worms. For example which outfit/haircut do the GTA characters have canonically in every mission? I suppose you could say based on trailers they never change from their default. But then if we go even more detailed, which cars do they drive at which times? Which other cars and peds do they encounter while driving? It's generated randomly and always a llittle different for every player and playthrough.

[Going_To_Aruba_01]

10 hours ago, cant remember said:

This opens a whole can of worms. For example which outfit/haircut do the GTA characters have canonically in every mission? I suppose you could say based on trailers they never change from their default. But then if we go even more detailed, which cars do they drive at which times? Which other cars and peds do they encounter while driving? It's generated randomly and always a llittle different for every player and playthrough.

I didn't mean to go that deep, I probably could have phrased my point better sorry lol.

 

I believe most of the core gameplay is open to interpretation because, as you said, its generated randomly and is different for every playthrough and things such as how your protag looks don't really impact events that certainly occur etc.

 

For example, in Vice City, Tommy calling Sonny the next morning after the intro and leaving the hotel, is predetermined to occur and him getting to Ken's office later to start "The Party" also definitely happens, what happens in his journey between the two locations doesn't really have a canon explanation because it doesn't need to, he got there in one piece and nothing much that was eventful happened on the way, thats all we know and all we need to know. Like if any random persons playthrough were to be canon for some reason then Tommy could step foot out of the Ocean View, decide to jack a Faggio, change his mind and try stealing an Infernus instead and could get flattened by a Rancher or something lol in the process and respawn at the hospital etc, or like how in the final mission Ken will comment on how Tommy's suit got ruined even if the player took no damage or if he's disguised as a gang member or wearing his tracksuit during the mission. The devs definitely intended for Tommy to be canonically wearing his suit but whether or not the player decides to is irrelevant as the fact that the events of the mission canonically occured is all that matters, and so on.

 

My point was which non story mission side content could have feasibly happened while fitting into the story and which activities are thrown in just for the sake of it being a fictional game and arent implied to have actually happened. Like how if in GTA 6 or something Franklin were to return and someone would mention "Oh hey, remember when you collected like a sh*tload of UFO pieces? What did you ever do with them?" or something along those lines. Or even just how funny it is to think about how while Sweet was stuck in prison, CJ took the time out of his mission to work towards his brother's freedom to collect some horseshoes. Or even kind of a halfway-house kind of thing where Lamar knows about Franklins special ability, kind of breaking the 4th wall.

 

To put it short ish I guess,: If for example GTA 3 were to have actually occured would Claude have had the time to collect 100 floating hidden packages during his quest for revenge? What would your opinion be? Did Rockstar intend for it to be taken literally and Claude actually did collect them all, or was it just put in for the sake of it being a game and if the game were to actually occur irl or was even adapted into a movie or whatever he wouldn't bother because A. He would be too busy, and B. They might not even exist anyway since the story isn't being told in a video game context. or like he could've happened upon them as he went about exploring the city and just so happened to find them all as the story progresses etc.

Or like "Yes Tommy could realistically have sold x amount of drugs out of an ice cream van because it has some grounding in reality and, (lets be honest, much stranger things have happened irl), but, it's extremely unlikely that Toni could have collected 100 giant floating glowing hand shaped key chain package thingies because he has better things to be at, it's kinda physically impossible, yadda yadda yadda."

 

I hope that made some sense at least lol.

 

 

Sorry again for the big blocks of text, again, everyone. I dont want you all to take this too seriously.

I'm putting way too much time into thinking about such dumb things lol. 

I'm gonna go do as Tommy suggests and "go get some sleep."  

[GhettoJesus]

I don't think they are, at least I have a hard time believing that Tommy would have to resort to pizza delivery. But I do like the idea, the way you put it is pretty funny. I would say some might be canon though. I can see Tommy doing the shooting range challenge or CJ doing some of the tags.

[cant remember]

I have my own way of "solving" all the canon issues: i (in certain parts) reject the official canon and instead follow a headcanon. For example Trevor has a moustache in my GTA universe. There are also some things included in the headcanon that don't have an animation. For example when Johnny raided the AOD bar he urinated behind the bar and that event is still something that took place for him in his GTA5 appearance.

[Evil empire]

To develop a bit about the 100% why would they not be canon?

 

For example let's imagine Tommy Vercetti entering fort Baxter to start a vigilante sub-mission:

Soldier: Hey you I recognize you with your cop uniform, we were told to kill you barely 10 minutes ago but for a reason I ignore I can't resolve to shoot you with this uniform if you don't attack anyone. What the hell do you come doing here?

Tommy: I'm here to take one of your vehicles and hunt criminals.

Soldier: Why should I let you steal us this way?

Tommy: Such is the will of the almighty main.scm, are you ready to oppose It and face the consequences?

Soldier: *sigh* If the main.scm gave you Its authorization I have no choice but to let you do.

Another solder passing by: Main.scm u akbar!

Tommy (entering the military vehicle): Amen!

Edited June 14, 2023 by Evil empire

[Pistol Bobcat]

This is why I love when a film or franchise leaves a lot of things open to interpretation and doesn't force a fandom to accept every meticulous detail as hard canon.

 

Like when Tarantino told fans the briefcase contains whatever you want it to be, or Rockstar never solidifying any of the choices in GTA IV (mainly the two endings).

 

Plus with all the sh*te corporate sequels hollywood churn out these days its no wonder people refute canon.

Edited June 14, 2023 by Pistol Bobcat

[Fireguybro]

I woul consider a GTA 6 announcement a canon event.

[ViGor_grand]

Personally, I think that all vehicle missions are not canon, although they suit some protags better than others (e.g. Claude, to make additional money). 

For Claude I think that off-road and RC missions are canon since they are paid for and Claude would do anything for money. Import\Export too. And I don't think rampages and unique jumps are canon for any of the protagonists as it'd be ridiculous if they were paid by someone. And packages are not canon too since Claude can't speak and knows nothing about selling drugs.

For Tommy street races are definitely canon alongside with stadium events (who wouldn't do it?) and shooting range. Unfortunately, I don't think any of the RC, off-road, chopper missions are canon. But hey, packages could be as Tommy or his family could sell them. The safehouses are definitely bought and by all protagonists and for robberies it's a tough one. But I don't think Tommy would deal with that just for a thousand or something.

Now for CJ... the quarry and trucking missions are canon. But not valet or courier ones, they are boring. Just like Tommy, he completed all the races and stadium events. He also finished all the schools with gold medals because why not (he still drives like a busta). The import\export and shooting range? Sure, why not. And gym techniques are learnt. I also think he went for that sporty look and fashionable clothes to keep his drip up. Now for collectibles, we could say that some rich dude paid and provided vehicles for them as some kind of challenge but how the f*ck did he manage to improve Carl's rizz and revive his gfs for oysters?

The same goes for Vic and Tony. Except I think that Vic did own all 30 empire sites and achieved max rep for all type of business.

And in Mike's case. Who cares?

For hd protags all strangers and freaks are canon (even non-required ones). IV protags did everything for their friends and spent time with them. Niko did beat QUB3D but some goddamn JON and LUI kept throwing him from his first place so he stopped. Vigilante missions are not paid so he didn't do that (it's also not his business). And birds? I guess they did make someone sick. The devs for putting that godawful collectible in the game.

Huang didn't do time trial missions but he did become the CEO of drugs by obtaining all trophies and destroying all cameras.
As for Micheal, Trevor and Frank. It's none of your business.

Edited June 5, 2024 by ViGor_grand

[Haruko Haruhara]

On 6/2/2023 at 4:33 PM, Going_To_Aruba_01 said:

mob capo Toni owning a giant rooster costume

Bro Toni is the most psycho protagonist, going on police wars in the rooster costume is pretty normal for him tbh

[Guest]

I'm not so sure about San Andreas. I think CJ will surely collect the gang tags, as he wants to extend GSF's influence, but don't think he will go after other collectibles. Then would he ever do the vehicle side missions aside from burglary (which I believe is canon since Ryder introduces it in the story) like paramedic and firefighter?