My headcanon about Shoreside Vale safehouse

[Captain Northstar]

We're never told how Claude got it. Portland's safehouse is 8-Ball's place where they can lay low, and Staunton Island's safehouse is provided by Asuka. But what about Shoreside Vale safehouse? Well, I have a headcanon that it's just Claude's apartment.

 

Claude and Catalina moved to Liberty City some time before the beginning of the game, so it's logical that they would buy or rent an apartment. It also makes sense that it's located near Colombian Cartel territory because they've been working with them.

 

It's nothing fancy: just an apartment in the projects with a big garage. Exactly like something Claude would rent for himself. And he couldn't get there in the beginning of the game simply because bridges were destroyed. I like this part, because it makes the story of the game not only about revenge, but also about returning home.

 

"But why Catalina didn't send assassins there?" you might ask. She actually did! In the mission "Bait" there are three death squads waiting for Claude on Shoreside Vale. Why would they look for him on Shoreside Vale if he never been there before in the game? Because he lived there before the events of the game. Even the positions of the death squads are covering three entrances to Wichita Gardens: one from Pike Creek and two from Upstate. They are waiting for him to come home.

 

"But why Catalina doesn't live there by herself?". Because, as she stated herself in the intro, she's an ambitious girl. She got rid of Claude and moved to the huge mansion. But Claude is just a small time and doesn't need a mansion: he's perfectly happy with his little place in Wichita Gardens. And that's why by the end of the game she's dead and he's alive: Catalina's ambitions and greed became her own undoing.

 

I think this headcanon is really neat and I wanted to share it with you. Hope you liked it as much as I did.

[universetwisters]

TBH it’s a better idea than “Claude is a squatter and sleeps in the lobby”. Kinda reminds me of the theory for LCS that Toni’s Shoreside Safehouse is his personal house that he had to abandon after he left after killing that guy before the events of the game 

[cant remember]

Makes a lot of sense. Claude is kind of stupid to have stayed with Catalina for years, I don't know what he saw in that woman.

[Captain Northstar]

17 hours ago, universetwisters said:

“Claude is a squatter and sleeps in the lobby”

That's unironically hilarious. Subway is the best safehouse.

[Exsanguination]

On 4/2/2023 at 6:58 AM, Orto_Dogge said:

We're never told how Claude got it. Portland's safehouse is 8-Ball's place where they can lay low, and Staunton Island's safehouse is provided by Asuka. But what about Shoreside Vale safehouse? Well, I have a headcanon that it's just Claude's apartment.

 

Claude and Catalina moved to Liberty City some time before the beginning of the game, so it's logical that they would buy or rent an apartment. It also makes sense that it's located near Colombian Cartel territory because they've been working with them.

 

It's nothing fancy: just an apartment in the projects with a big garage. Exactly like something Claude would rent for himself. And he couldn't get there in the beginning of the game simply because bridges were destroyed. I like this part, because it makes the story of the game not only about revenge, but also about returning home.

 

"But why Catalina didn't send assassins there?" you might ask. She actually did! In the mission "Bait" there are three death squads waiting for Claude on Shoreside Vale. Why would they look for him on Shoreside Vale if he never been there before in the game? Because he lived there before the events of the game. Even the positions of the death squads are covering three entrances to Wichita Gardens: one from Pike Creek and two from Upstate. They are waiting for him to come home.

 

"But why Catalina doesn't live there by herself?". Because, as she stated herself in the intro, she's an ambitious girl. She got rid of Claude and moved to the huge mansion. But Claude is just a small time and doesn't need a mansion: he's perfectly happy with his little place in Wichita Gardens. And that's why by the end of the game she's dead and he's alive: Catalina's ambitions and greed became her own undoing.

 

I think this headcanon is really neat and I wanted to share it with you. Hope you liked it as much as I did.

I hadn’t thought of it that way before. You make good points and I think I’ll view it that way from now on as well. 

[dictatorial]

For some reason I've always felt at home every time I unlock the Shoreside Vale safehouse, the rural countryside is a nice juxtaposition with the busy streets of Staunton Island. This headcanon is very sweet because it's Fido returning home and possibly settling down after surviving the crooked streets of Liberty City.  

Edited April 11, 2023 by dictatorial

[chad_maf]

This is so beautifully put together  

 

If you're so good at GTA 3 Lore, can you tell me why did the Diablos target a Staunton Island grocery store in the mission "Shima"? 

 

I even investigated it myself. 

 

[Majin13]

That could explain why there is a Cartel gang car parked near the apartment too.

[Copcaller]

Makes sense I just love the idea of Claude staying in the projects 

[TenAte108]

On 4/2/2023 at 12:58 PM, Orto_Dogge said:

We're never told how Claude got it. Portland's safehouse is 8-Ball's place where they can lay low, and Staunton Island's safehouse is provided by Asuka. But what about Shoreside Vale safehouse? Well, I have a headcanon that it's just Claude's apartment.

 

Claude and Catalina moved to Liberty City some time before the beginning of the game, so it's logical that they would buy or rent an apartment. It also makes sense that it's located near Colombian Cartel territory because they've been working with them.

 

It's nothing fancy: just an apartment in the projects with a big garage. Exactly like something Claude would rent for himself. And he couldn't get there in the beginning of the game simply because bridges were destroyed. I like this part, because it makes the story of the game not only about revenge, but also about returning home.

 

"But why Catalina didn't send assassins there?" you might ask. She actually did! In the mission "Bait" there are three death squads waiting for Claude on Shoreside Vale. Why would they look for him on Shoreside Vale if he never been there before in the game? Because he lived there before the events of the game. Even the positions of the death squads are covering three entrances to Wichita Gardens: one from Pike Creek and two from Upstate. They are waiting for him to come home.

 

"But why Catalina doesn't live there by herself?". Because, as she stated herself in the intro, she's an ambitious girl. She got rid of Claude and moved to the huge mansion. But Claude is just a small time and doesn't need a mansion: he's perfectly happy with his little place in Wichita Gardens. And that's why by the end of the game she's dead and he's alive: Catalina's ambitions and greed became her own undoing.

 

I think this headcanon is really neat and I wanted to share it with you. Hope you liked it as much as I did.

I like this theory very much tbh I wish the mansion was ours after the endgame mission that would be cool

On 5/17/2023 at 5:58 PM, Copcaller said:

Makes sense I just love the idea of Claude staying in the projects 

Simple man with simple hopes, he even befriended the guys and gangs who are wandering around

On 4/11/2023 at 4:39 AM, dictatorial said:

For some reason I've always felt at home every time I unlock the Shoreside Vale safehouse, the rural countryside is a nice juxtaposition with the busy streets of Staunton Island. This headcanon is very sweet because it's Fido returning home and possibly settling down after surviving the crooked streets of Liberty City.  

fr, Mulan's place just feels off and Asuka's too

[FRIENDLY_FIRE]

Considering the fact there is no explanation in game on how we get it & it just “becomes” available as soon as the bridge is repaired and Shoreside Vale is unlocked, I’d say that OP is spot on correct!

[Stahli]

I've played through GTA III so many times and never wondered where Claude got this apartment from. I think your theory is great. And so far I can't think of anything that could speak against it.