Anyone think GTA:O evolves into GTA 6 Online?

January 16, 2023

12 hours ago, DRAGME said:

Would make everyone's life easier if you just went to LSIA and Flew to Vice City. (Same as Cayo) Keep everything, you just have new people to meet, new city, new jobs/businesses and properties...That way we didn't waste our real money/time on GTAO.

yeah, thus veterans will crush newbies with their tank/rocket car/flying banana mkII.

Making GTAO2 a nightmare.

...

The more compatible GTAO2 will be with GTAO1, the greater the risk of seeing mod menus adapted.

January 16, 2023

While carrying over *everything* seems to be unlikely, if players have to start out knocking over gas stations and liquor stores for a couple hundred dollars each, I think a lot of people are going to pass on that. I know I would.

Something like the CESP or the Career Builder will make it a lot less painful.

Although I don't know if I'll be playing GTA6 anyway. Right now I'm basically just killing time until Starfield comes out. Maybe I'll be tired of that one in a couple years when 6 comes out.

January 16, 2023

9 minutes ago, DrEeveell said:

If players have to start out knocking over gas stations and liquor stores for a couple hundred dollars each

I couldn't play Forza horizon 5 because I found myself uninterested in grinding for cars that I had in Horizon 4. The game wasn't fundamentally different from the last one. So I dropped it.

It's on r* to make a successor that is worth playing and investing almost a decade into.

January 16, 2023

52 minutes ago, DrEeveell said:

While carrying over *everything* seems to be unlikely, if players have to start out knocking over gas stations and liquor stores for a couple hundred dollars each, I think a lot of people are going to pass on that. I know I would.

Something like the CESP or the Career Builder will make it a lot less painful.

Absolutely, I do believe there'll be incentives for people who have played the first version, and perhaps a complete overhaul in how you create your character, like a much more advanced version of the Career Builder they introduced with GTAV Gen9. But transferring everything over? Delusional.

January 17, 2023

I wouldn't mind starting over but I just hope there's a better "10 year plan" on how to build up the universe. The heists have had a good build but the side hustles just seem random. Like don't wait 7+ years to introduce a Car Meet.

January 17, 2023

Nope. GTA Online 2 will be on a new version of RAGE in addition to having new network structure. GTAO2 will work off the tech behind RDO. Progress will definitely be reset.

The server would handle session joining and switching. Seamless Session System where the game decides to throw you into another session if the current session has few players. A Crew/Gang system much like the Posse system (In RDO, a Persistent Posse won't be disbanded if both the leader and members aren't online) where you could join, later on, to find out you're still part of your friend's CEO Organization or Motorcycle Club. A web-based catalogue where you can buy most of what is offered in the game and that would be reflected almost instantly within your game. Among other things.

Edited January 17, 2023 by Tez2

January 17, 2023

7 minutes ago, Tez2 said:

Nope. GTA Online 2 will be on a new version of RAGE in addition to having new network structure. GTAO2 will work off the tech behind RDO. Progress will definitely be reset.

The server would handle session joining and switching. Seamless Session System where the game decides to throw you into another session if the current session has few players. A Crew/Gang system much like the Posse system (In RDO, a Persistent Posse won't be disbanded if both the leader and members aren't online) where you could join, later on, to find out you're still part of your friend's CEO Organization or Motorcycle Club. A web-based catalogue where you can buy most of what is offered in the game and that would be reflected almost instantly within your game. Among other things.

Makes sense, but then what did you mean by this:

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Rockstar wants to link up the current gtao with the next gtao

link up... plot-wise?

January 17, 2023

19 minutes ago, Lexiture said:

Makes sense, but then what did you mean by this:

link up... plot-wise?

Receiving new content in GTA Online till the release window of the next GTA. As we get closer, the new content would start reflecting stuff from the next GTA.

Much like RDR2's-themed Treasure Hunt within the Doomsday Heist update. RDR2 was still 10 months away from release at the time.

We will gradually receive Vice City themed content over time. That's what I meant. Not actually linking up your progress to the next game.

Edited January 17, 2023 by Tez2

January 17, 2023

I think they will give us some kind of transfer from this game to the next, but I don't think it'll be anywhere near comprehensive. You won't be able to forward your zillions of dollars and fleet of cars and weapons. It'll be more like a starter pack based vaguely on what you had before. And if we're lucky, they'll let us transfer the character(s) also. Maybe some kind of story and cut scene about how we had to flee Los Santos due to years of wanton criminality, and start over across the country with only scraps of our empire. Something like that.

Edited January 17, 2023 by Nutduster

January 17, 2023

I still hope we can transfer over a percentage of our current GTAO wealth to the next GTAO, even if the percentage is something small like, for example, 1%. Having the money transfer be percentage-based would at least give us a reason to keep grinding the current GTAO, without it feeling like a total waste of time. Of course, this should exclude modded money, so someone who modded $1T won't be able to begin next GTAO with $10B as that would be highly unfair to legit players.

And as I stated before, I hope our rank will transfer over, too.

January 17, 2023

I put this in a previous post. I wouldn't mind having one last story mission for our character in which we lose just about everything, and are forced to flee to Vice City with 1 gun, and 1 car from our collection.

January 17, 2023

28 minutes ago, Rammer2k said:

I put this in a previous post. I wouldn't mind having one last story mission for our character in which we lose just about everything, and are forced to flee to Vice City with 1 gun, and 1 car from our collection.

That would kinda force them to kill the current GTAO which I doubt will happen. It'll probably be running for years to come as people slowly transition to VI Online - although they could just show us such a cutscene and then bring us back to before that of course, like some games have you go through the finale then bring you back to right before it. That said, there's probably gonna be such major changes to the ped/clothing/face/character systems that I very much doubt any of our looks will be portable to VI Online.

January 17, 2023

3 hours ago, Tez2 said:

Nope. GTA Online 2 will be on a new version of RAGE in addition to having new network structure. GTAO2 will work off the tech behind RDO. Progress will definitely be reset.

The server would handle session joining and switching. Seamless Session System where the game decides to throw you into another session if the current session has few players. A Crew/Gang system much like the Posse system (In RDO, a Persistent Posse won't be disbanded if both the leader and members aren't online) where you could join, later on, to find out you're still part of your friend's CEO Organization or Motorcycle Club. A web-based catalogue where you can buy most of what is offered in the game and that would be reflected almost instantly within your game. Among other things.

Me and a lot of ppl feel this way they are not on this site because it’s one sided everyone I talk to and play with want to keep all of there stuff and migrate the progression that is the ppl who actually play the game and actually spend real money buying shark cards and gta plus it seems to me that this gta forum is very out of touch with the real gta community and especially since this forums is run by ppl who dont let others speak on a different opinions seems very even extremely one sided and has no tolerance of other’s opinions since I was silenced by someone I’ll leave nameless for now due to me not having the same opinion as him and apparently apparently I’m not allowed to have freedom of speech on this forum because I said nothing out women only voiced my opinion myself and others many others want to keep there hard earned stuff car’s properties money ect that they grinded for many years and spent real money on shark cards unlike others who really truly don’t play this game the ppl who have and want a full wipe for next gen are ppl who truly don’t play or pay I’m not just some person trying to start drama I’m an adult that has been playing since drop I’m a business man owns his own company and enjoys playing this game and puts real time in I’m ranked over a thousand and it’s all legit no hacks no glitches I play for real grinded and made billions not millions in game wait till mr boss ftw sees this and watch the real community respond with rage knowing they lose everything they worked so hard for they will be outraged because they are the true players who drive up the stock prices and if they see they won’t carry over watch how the stock drops on shark cards and gta plus subscriptions me included and best believe I’m screen shotting this for my own channel and friends and others to spread the warning and word if that is true the real community has spoken

Edited January 17, 2023 by Hundred1million

January 17, 2023

2 hours ago, Hundred1million said:

others many others want to keep there hard earned stuff car’s properties money ect that they grinded for many years and spent real money on

Man that's crazy because I was sure that you'd still keep all that when the next game drops. Sarcasm aside, if you cared so much about the stuff you earned you can still use it....in gta5.

January 17, 2023

18 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

They're not, a lot of people don't mind starting over in a much, much better game, that's what'll add longevity, not being able to transfer everything from one game to the other. Transferring everything over would have you min/maxing it in a jiffy which would kill the game. As I said, GTAO2 will be built on tech that is much more prepared for the behemoth it'll probably become, not things duct taped onto a 2012 engine like it is right now, so there will be fundamental differences, new city, new mechanics, and letting people transfer would completely screw the economy, playing field and everything especially for new players.

Considering all the major changes even between GTA V's and RDR2's version of RAGE, they can't simply just "upgrade" the current game and "let you fly to VC" or whatever. Thats' not happening, and all your money and assets will certainly not be transferred either as you'd be screwing the entire game economy and new players. That'd be sh*tty game design and would instantly kill the game.

You will not be migrating anything/everything, I'm 99.9% sure, and I would recommend starting to get used to that idea (the same way you seem to be pushing the opposite to other players, I'm gonna push this to you). GTAO1 isn't gonna go anywhere anyway, it's not like they're just gonna shut down the servers, you'll still be able to have fun in LS.

7 minutes ago, HamwithCheese said:

Man that's crazy because I was sure that you'd still keep all that when the next game drops. Sarcasm aside, if you cared so much about the stuff you earned you can still use it....in gta5.

Me and many others see no point in getting or even caring about gta 6 if we can’t keep the 10 years of work we did and 10 years of real money we spent and now having a gta plus subscription this isn’t call of duty where we get a new game every year this game has 10 years of work ppl put in hours per day grinding an buying shark cards if the game wasn’t so big for 10 years without a new game I’d see your point but this is 10 years not one year like cod and fortnight is another bad example used above because they change the maps and seasons yearly and u can still use your purchased outfits since day one

January 17, 2023

26 minutes ago, Hundred1million said:

Me and many others see no point in getting or even caring about gta 6 if we can’t keep the 10 years of work we did and 10 years of real money we spent and now having a gta plus subscription this isn’t call of duty where we get a new game every year this game has 10 years of work ppl put in hours per day grinding an buying shark cards if the game wasn’t so big for 10 years without a new game I’d see your point but this is 10 years not one year like cod and fortnight is another bad example used above because they change the maps and seasons yearly and u can still use your purchased outfits since day one

There is literally nothing stopping you from playing gta5 when gta6 comes out.

Edited January 17, 2023 by HamwithCheese

January 17, 2023

Hot take:

with no basis of fact and being pure speculation on my behalf (maybe I should start a YouTube channel with misleading thumbnails with rainbow borders and yellow arrows)

Players with pre-existing progress in GTAV(Online) would get the opportunity to create a fresh character in GTAVI(Online) with one of their 'parents' being their original GTAO character.

The 'offspring' could inherit (or have been gifted or have stolen) a few cosmetic items from the parent, like physical trophies/achievements to be exclusively added to a safehouse decoration inventory or something. Maybe a few hand-me-down clothes, weapons, or liveries (obviously not the originals) that would be inaccessible ~~cough glitchesandmods cough~~ to new players.

January 17, 2023

6 hours ago, Hundred1million said:

Me and a lot of ppl feel this way they are not on this site because it’s one sided everyone I talk to and play with want to keep all of there stuff and migrate the progression that is the ppl who actually play the game and actually spend real money buying shark cards and gta plus it seems to me that this gta forum is very out of touch with the real gta community and especially since this forums is run by ppl who dont let others speak on a different opinions seems very even extremely one sided and has no tolerance of other’s opinions since I was silenced by someone I’ll leave nameless for now due to me not having the same opinion as him and apparently apparently I’m not allowed to have freedom of speech on this forum because I said nothing out women only voiced my opinion myself and others many others want to keep there hard earned stuff car’s properties money ect that they grinded for many years and spent real money on shark cards unlike others who really truly don’t play this game the ppl who have and want a full wipe for next gen are ppl who truly don’t play or pay I’m not just some person trying to start drama I’m an adult that has been playing since drop I’m a business man owns his own company and enjoys playing this game and puts real time in I’m ranked over a thousand and it’s all legit no hacks no glitches I play for real grinded and made billions not millions in game wait till mr boss ftw sees this and watch the real community respond with rage knowing they lose everything they worked so hard for they will be outraged because they are the true players who drive up the stock prices and if they see they won’t carry over watch how the stock drops on shark cards and gta plus subscriptions me included and best believe I’m screen shotting this for my own channel and friends and others to spread the warning and word if that is true the real community has spoken

I don't know what this drama between you and the forum is about nor do I want to get involved.

I'll just say you can have opinions all you want, but where is factual data to back it up? Would these people you "play with and want to keep all of their stuff" skip playing GTA6 on release day? Would they not buy GTA6 when most of the gaming world is hyping it up and queueing in front of stores?

Rockstar is selling custom versions of vehicles we already own at full price, yet there's no noticeable uproar or backlash from the "real GTA" community who aren't in this forum. Even the Taxi, a day one vehicle, is gonna be sold at 650k. The one which you can steal by calling Downtown Cab.

We've seen a lot of criticism centered around the Drug Wars DLC, but 3 million players played the intro "First Dose" mission since release.

You don't have to look any further than the sales of GTAV, which is the first and foremost indicator of whether a product is successful or not. Check out the "Top Downloads" articles on Playstation Blog.

Here are the months GTAV remained in Top 10 Downloads.

For the last two years, this 9-year-old game managed to maintain its spot within Top 10 back to back.

The data isn't aligning up with what you're saying.

Edited January 17, 2023 by Tez2

January 17, 2023

I have severe doubts that, when a GTAO2 in VC launches, we could bring any of our business properties/personal properties from GTAO to GTAO2, mainly because the next version doesn't even have what we already own in the current game yet.
So, a start from scratch with, maybe a safe house and a few cars + some money to start with as a veteran player.
The one thing I hope they'll keep is the Invite Only lobbies as we have them now.

January 17, 2023

6 hours ago, Hundred1million said:

Me and many others see no point in getting or even caring about gta 6 if we can’t keep the 10 years of work we did and 10 years of real money we spent and now having a gta plus subscription this isn’t call of duty where we get a new game every year this game has 10 years of work ppl put in hours per day grinding an buying shark cards if the game wasn’t so big for 10 years without a new game I’d see your point but this is 10 years not one year like cod and fortnight is another bad example used above because they change the maps and seasons yearly and u can still use your purchased outfits since day one

You can keep the 9+ years of everything in GTAO by continuing to play GTAO. It's not being deleted the day GTAVI is released, and as long as you and your large community of wealthy friends continue to buy shark cards and pay for GTA+ then Rockstar will continue to give you what you are paying for.

You will also be able to enjoy GTAVI in parallel, so everyone gets exactly what they want. I smell chicken dinner

January 17, 2023

10 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

That would kinda force them to kill the current GTAO which I doubt will happen. It'll probably be running for years to come as people slowly transition to VI Online - although they could just show us such a cutscene and then bring us back to before that of course, like some games have you go through the finale then bring you back to right before it. That said, there's probably gonna be such major changes to the ped/clothing/face/character systems that I very much doubt any of our looks will be portable to VI Online.

It could be just part of a temporary story. You get a call to head to Vice City to do a deal. It's a set up. You are now stuck in Vice City until you can build things up enough to sync back with Los Santos.

3 hours ago, Tez2 said:

You don't have to look any further than the sales of GTAV, which is the first and foremost indicator of whether a product is successful or not. Check out the "Top Downloads" articles on Playstation Blog.

Here are the months GTAV remained in Top 10 Downloads.

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For the last two years, this 9-year-old game managed to maintain its spot within Top 10 back to back.

The data isn't aligning up with what you're saying.

It's the same story for Xbox as well. For as long as I can remember, the Xbone and XSeries have had GTA V in the top selling games list.

January 17, 2023

10 hours ago, Hundred1million said:

Me and a lot of ppl feel this way they are not on this site because it’s one sided everyone I talk to and play with want to keep all of there stuff and migrate the progression that is the ppl who actually play the game and actually spend real money buying shark cards and gta plus it seems to me that this gta forum is very out of touch with the real gta community and especially since this forums is run by ppl who dont let others speak on a different opinions seems very even extremely one sided and has no tolerance of other’s opinions since I was silenced by someone I’ll leave nameless for now due to me not having the same opinion as him and apparently apparently I’m not allowed to have freedom of speech on this forum because I said nothing out women only voiced my opinion myself and others many others want to keep there hard earned stuff car’s properties money ect that they grinded for many years and spent real money on shark cards unlike others who really truly don’t play this game the ppl who have and want a full wipe for next gen are ppl who truly don’t play or pay I’m not just some person trying to start drama I’m an adult that has been playing since drop I’m a business man owns his own company and enjoys playing this game and puts real time in I’m ranked over a thousand and it’s all legit no hacks no glitches I play for real grinded and made billions not millions in game wait till mr boss ftw sees this and watch the real community respond with rage knowing they lose everything they worked so hard for they will be outraged because they are the true players who drive up the stock prices and if they see they won’t carry over watch how the stock drops on shark cards and gta plus subscriptions me included and best believe I’m screen shotting this for my own channel and friends and others to spread the warning and word if that is true the real community has spoken

It's the same problem for the release of the new iphone.

Owners of the previous version are unhappy that they no longer have the "state of the art" gadget. Yet they always have a phone to call.

A video game is made for entertainment, right? (from the customer's point of view)

You just have to mourn the old and put your hopes in the new. Growth, acme, decay, end. Such is life.

January 17, 2023

10 hours ago, Hundred1million said:

I’m an adult that has been playing since drop I’m a business man who owns his own company

Wow really? you actually sound like a spoiled kid to me.. tell me 1 game that lets you carry over progression like that? Rockstar is a funny company at times, but they are not killing a completely new way of income by letting people carry over billions into a new game..where the rest has to start from 0 (just think about it for a second). i'm a day one online player as well, (still remember how we had to wait 2 weeks before we even could get online in 2013 ). i've got almost everything thats available in the game, spent on shark cards and bought the game for ps3, ps4 (disc and later hdd version) and ps5 (+Cesp). But i really cant wait to start all over in a new game. What exactly would your challenge be? having billions in a new game.. theres no fun at all.. Just keep playing GTA5 online with all your billions business man..

Edited January 17, 2023 by R*Phenomenon

January 17, 2023

3 hours ago, Paerindal said:

It's the same problem for the release of the new iphone.

Owners of the previous version are unhappy that they no longer have the "state of the art" gadget. Yet they always have a phone to call.

A video game is made for entertainment, right? (from the customer's point of view)

You just have to mourn the old and put your hopes in the new. Growth, acme, decay, end. Such is life.

My iPhone 11 has pretty much everything the new model has so bad example but when next iPhone drops if you had to re buy all apps and music how would you feel then?

January 17, 2023

2 hours ago, R*Phenomenon said:

tell me 1 game that lets you carry over progression like that?

World of Warcraft. That's one of the main reasons they just have expansions and periodically make huge changes to the game engine. To avoid scrapping everything and making people start over with WoW2.

January 17, 2023

Don't care. As long they keep the current GTA Online open even when GTA6 is out is fine for me, like i said few times in other topics i wouldn't mind to start over on a "GTA6 Online" (which most likely will be separated from current GTAO) BUT i would be pissed to lose my progress in GTA5 Online.

January 17, 2023

2 hours ago, R*Phenomenon said:

Wow really? you actually sound like a spoiled kid to me..

No need to go ad hominem as it'll just make it worse but it's definitely smelling like a troll to me too at this point with the kind of discourse they're spouting lol.

January 17, 2023

13 minutes ago, DrEeveell said:

World of Warcraft. That's one of the main reasons they just have expansions and periodically make huge changes to the game engine. To avoid scrapping everything and making people start over with WoW2.

Difference is, WoW is a monthly sub MMORPG running on dedicated servers. GTAO is pretty much free to play after purchase and runs on P2P servers.

For GTAO I'd prefer a healthy mix of both; Dedicated servers and no monthly sub

January 17, 2023

7 hours ago, Tez2 said:

I don't know what this drama between you and the forum is about nor do I want to get involved.

I'll just say you can have opinions all you want, but where is factual data to back it up? Would these people you "play with and want to keep all of their stuff" skip playing GTA6 on release day? Would they not buy GTA6 when most of the gaming world is hyping it up and queueing in front of stores?

Rockstar is selling custom versions of vehicles we already own at full price, yet there's no noticeable uproar or backlash from the "real GTA" community who aren't in this forum. Even the Taxi, a day one vehicle, is gonna be sold at 650k. The one which you can steal by calling Downtown Cab.

We've seen a lot of criticism centered around the Drug Wars DLC, but 3 million players played the intro "First Dose" mission since release.

You don't have to look any further than the sales of GTAV, which is the first and foremost indicator of whether a product is successful or not. Check out the "Top Downloads" articles on Playstation Blog.

Here are the months GTAV remained in Top 10 Downloads.

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December 2022

November 2022

October 2022

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July 2022

June 2022

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December 2021

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For the last two years, this 9-year-old game managed to maintain its spot within Top 10 back to back.

The data isn't aligning up with what you're saying.

I have been playing V for almost 10 years and I would prefer to start fresh from the beginning in VI, in my opinion the journey is better than the destination and I feel I would have more fun starting with nothing in VI, work my way up and explore the new map, try all kind of different activities of the new game

January 17, 2023

1 hour ago, SM Grunge said:

I have been playing V for almost 10 years and I would prefer to start fresh from the beginning in VI, in my opinion the journey is better than the destination and I feel I would have more fun starting with nothing in VI, work my way up and explore the new map, try all kind of different activities of the new game

I feel like these "real players" are missing out on this. If you absolutely cannot play a videogame without it's shiny gimmicks, then maybe you don't like playing the game itself.

When we start over and the game is "too boring" or "too grindy" then it's failed you as a videogame and you have to admit it isn't good enough for you. That's literally all it is.

Edited January 17, 2023 by HamwithCheese

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