Is the Document Forgery Office upgrades worth it?

[jitsu8271]

Would anyone spend some money on the upgrades for the document office?

 

How much higher is the profit when the business is upgraded?

My nightclub, bunker, and my other MC businesses are upgraded, except for the forgery office, so I wonder if it’s worth it, or it’s just another addition to the nightclub. 

Edited December 21, 2022 by jitsu8271

[Spider-Vice]

Honestly I'd personally not bother with it because I believe the Document Forgery is one of the worst businesses in terms of income/sales earnings, I'd focus on upgrading things like meth, coke, cash and weed. Don't get the security upgrades for any of them as that just increases the raid timer and doesn't actually decrease the chance of you being raided IIRC?

[Tez2]

It's completely useless now that we have Payphone Hits. You make around 10k profit from a Close Sale and 67k profit from a Far Sale assuming you pay for Full Supplies. And takes 2 hours and 30 minutes to even reach that value.

 

Payphone Hits pay 70k with the Assassination Bonus and has a 20 minute cooldown. If you simply grind them back to back in the same timeframe Document Forgery takes to produce full stock, you'll be making 490k from simply Payphone Hits.

[ilovefreebird]

I'd recommend not doing anything with the MC businesses unless you're a masochist.

[Max96]

No, don't buy the document forgery at all. It's one of most useless things in game.

Edited December 21, 2022 by Max96

[Jamwes]

no /thread

 

In all seriousness, the ONLY reason to operate Document Forgery is to run it long enough to get the related clutter in your MC Clubhouse. Even for that reason it is not worth owning simply for the fact that it will increase your daily fees when logged in as a MC. It is nothing but a money drain.

 

IIRC filling the product will take 6 sections of supplies, costing $75k. Selling far (without high population bonus) will pay $157,500, which will only be a $82,500 payout. For that payout you will need to do a delivery what requires 3 vehicles. Depending on the sales vehicles, it may take 25 minutes to complete the sale solo, or you won't even finish the entire sale. This is the lowest paying business in the game.

[El Diablo 702]

It’s really only worth it for the nightclub, it was a big “if” when biker’s came out but now there’s so many other things to make $$ off of.  

[mjace72]

What is worth if we don't know what you have?  If you're over 300 million with very little else to buy then why not?  If you're under 10 mil then things may change.  It's a weak business but if I didn't do the upgrades on it when I did I'd be at 302 mil instead of 300 mil and what is that difference worth to me now??  If I buy a business then I'm going to get all the upgrades, whether it's "worth" it or not because why own something that isn't operating at 100% of what it can?   The big thing here is without the Document Forgery you will never sell a full nightclub so there is definitely worth in owning it, in my opinion.

[Java_1976]

1 hour ago, El Diablo 702 said:

It’s really only worth it for the nightclub, it was a big “if” when biker’s came out but now there’s so many other things to make $$ off of.  

^^ What I was about to say.

 

The only worth the forgery has, is for the Nightclub so that it can generate passive income. I hope you bought the cheapest version, sell that stock with the supplies you get when starting up this business and never look at it again. Don't even become a MC president anymore, so you have lower expenses every 48 mins . . .

[Max96]

1 hour ago, El Diablo 702 said:

It’s really only worth it for the nightclub, it was a big “if” when biker’s came out but now there’s so many other things to make $$ off of.  

And yet there are 5 staff members for 7 business spots. So, CEO warehouse/hangar, bunker, coke lockup, meth lab and counterfeit cash factory are best to go.

[Valiant ENT CEO]

You should buy every business and upgrade it to the max! Then you have nothing to feel bad about because you have money and/or missions available to you around every corner.

 

 

[hugh750]

it's kinda worth it once you fully upgrade it, you can make a little over $100k, at least it's better then the air cargo business (you have to collect 50 crates and it get's boring quick).

[awesomefoot]

If you want the Worn Red Bodhi, I think upgrading the Staff helps. I upgraded Equipment too but I'm not sure it does help.

[hugh750]

2 hours ago, awesomefoot said:

If you want the Worn Red Bodhi, I think upgrading the Staff helps. I upgraded Equipment too but I'm not sure it does help.

it does help product producing speed, but when i upgraded the security in all of mc businesses i seem to get raided more.

[Schuimpruim]

9 hours ago, jitsu8271 said:

Would anyone spend some money on the upgrades for the document office?

 

How much higher is the profit when the business is upgraded?

My nightclub, bunker, and my other MC businesses are upgraded, except for the forgery office, so I wonder if it’s worth it, or it’s just another addition to the nightclub. 

 

Got it myself, its the worst business I own (even fully upgraded).

Not worth the money to upgrade, and not worth the hassle to sell the product.

[Jamwes]

12 hours ago, El Diablo 702 said:

It’s really only worth it for the nightclub, it was a big “if” when biker’s came out but now there’s so many other things to make $$ off of.  

 

Are you thinking of Counterfeit Cash? The only ones worth it for the Nightclub are crate warehouses/hangar, bunker, coke, meth, counterfeit cash. Weed and documents aren't good enough.

 

  

12 hours ago, mjace72 said:

The big thing here is without the Document Forgery you will never sell a full nightclub so there is definitely worth in owning it, in my opinion.

 

What's the point of selling a full nightclub? You're making less money and risking raids if you do that.

Edited December 22, 2022 by Jamwes

[Rotorhead359]

9 hours ago, Jamwes said:

 

Are you thinking of Counterfeit Cash? The only ones worth it for the Nightclub are crate warehouses/hangar, bunker, coke, meth, counterfeit cash. Weed and documents aren't good enough.

 

  

 

What's the point of selling a full nightclub? You're making less money and risking raids if you do that.

Exactly.  Only points I can think of is less time spent selling, and a smaller percentage for Tony. (his 10% fee is capped at 100k, so if you sell over a million, more profit for you) But you still make less per hour with full nightclub sales.

Personally, I collect the best 5, and sell when Coke, Meth and Cash are full. (or when it gets close to 90 units so I can still use the Speedo Custom)

I don't even own the Weed or Documents business. And I don't like having to deal with raids.

Edited December 22, 2022 by Rotorhead359

[mjace72]

9 hours ago, Jamwes said:

 

Are you thinking of Counterfeit Cash? The only ones worth it for the Nightclub are crate warehouses/hangar, bunker, coke, meth, counterfeit cash. Weed and documents aren't good enough.

 

  

 

What's the point of selling a full nightclub? You're making less money and risking raids if you do that.

Personal satisfaction of selling a full Nightclub is all I need.  Not sure on how I'm making less money.  Even it the Document Forgery produced 5% of my total nightclub sale then I'd have to say 100% is still greater than 95%.   I'm not sure about the risk factor involved in raids.  Last raid I was pulled out of my autoshop in the middle of modding a car, went to Nightclub, dealt with the raid, and went back to the Autoshop to finish the car I was modding.  I don't have to buy supplies for the Document Forgery for it to produce at the Nightclub and I rarely enter freemode as MC because of the business raids.  MC inside Arcade to buy supplies for my other 4 and CEO before I exit.  MC inside a business that I'm about to sell, and immediate disband after sale and raids are minimal.