Why does R* not want to make a game set anywhere else?

[Mr Philips]

By anywhere else I mean places like within the United Kingdom since the the Houser Brothers are from England and some of their employees are from Scotland. 

 

Also, Manhunt is set in the same universe as the GTA series, Carcer City is even mentioned in a few GTA games and in San Andreas and GTA 5, there's a road named "Carcer Way" so I'm surprised that Rockstar has not even made a GTA game set in Carcer City. 

 

It'd also be very cool to see a GTA set in North Yankton too. 

 

I would say about Japan, but every time I do, people often say "There's already a GTA styled game set in Japan! It's called Yakuza!". Yakuza though is more focused on fighting rather that shooting and driving. 

 

A lot of people mention Need For Speed as well, but again, NFS is just focused on 1 game genre and nothing else, you can't build a criminal empire and do heists and stuff, all you can do is driving around various cities and it's mostly in 1 car at a time, you can't hijack any other cars.

 

NOTE: I do think Yakuza and NFS are both good games, I own a few myself. I am just interested in seeing Rockstar expand their options, if you know what I mean?

 

I'm sure a lot of us here would love to see a character build his or her criminal empire over in London or Paris or maybe Germany or possibly Ireland even and have some background story for the McReary family. I already know that we know quite a bit about Kate and Patrick because of GTA 4, but who wouldn't wanna dive even deeper into the lore?

[Aquamaniac]

There are lot of discussions about this in various location wishlist topics. My personal opinion is that in order to be nearly plausible a GTA must be set in a country with notorious gun violence, this rules out Japan and European countries maybe with the exception of France. France is not notorious for gun violence but at least criminals there have access to "heavy" weapons. I have seen plenty of French action movies and what works in movies would work in a GTA also. On the other hand with the terror attacks, a GTA France would maybe feel way of off, but Paris could work, also in terms of culture and movie references. I'd favor France over UK, but UK has some unique vehicles plus left side drive.

 

I guess it will never happen, given how long development lasts and there are still interesting US locations like Las Vegas, Pacific-Northwest Locations, the south, Texas, New York combined with rural New England.

 

 

[billiejoearmstrong8]

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Edited December 21, 2022 by billiejoearmstrong8

[kobeni]

It's wishful thinking but I wished they did another UK based game again.

[44Orca]

Aside USA they don't because they might not be able to? , or the laws of those countries might not agree with a violent crime game set in that country. There's a lot of reasons. Long post in spoiler tags. My awful English might give you headaches, sorry, I hope you get the point.

Spoiler

Perhaps a GTA in the UK, India, somewhere South America, Caribbean countries or  Mexico can happen but again, there are issues, it isn't easy. 

 

• Modern UK well maybe  but I am not that sure for this one as it still has some other issues like other European countries but I more think again of 60s gta remake that's why I put it here.
• India has a lot of open areas, it has a lot of crime, not all places are overpopulated, I feel like it can work with a very good story.
• South America, obviously I believe it can work, might be in the upcoming game. Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Argentina, even the smaller ones north, like Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama might work I think, it depends.
• Caribbean countries also I believe at least some will be in the next one.
• Mexico is the best one aside South America location to me, I would like to see a story that has to do with the Cartels, I am sure many people have said it before.

 

The other ones I can't think how they can work as they have a lot of problems when you think of them for a gta game but it ***might be*** possible is

: Some country of North Africa, Germany, France, Balkans overall, Japan?

• Europe is too narrow, even the Balkan countries it will be a bit weird for the online mode, and even for story mode, how many civilians will you run over? you will get stuck too many times. Even Paris that has some open roads but most are very narrow. You can see on Google Earth and compare American cities and European cities, it's weird for gameplay I wouldn't mind it though, but you have to consider Online mode too.\
• France and Germany has a few cities that are quite open that might work and also have big roads and countryside areas. But again...it's weird, think about it.
• North African countries, well you know why this cannot happen but you can create a story based like let's say Morocco? Libya? Egypt? I believe it can work but is best to avoid it.
• Japan one, look this is a crime game we talking about, of course Japan has crimes but it's not the way you think. Think how many people, how crowded Tokyo is or the other big cities, there might also be some controversy here too because in GTA you can just shoot everyone and the online mode wouldn't work well. If it is set in other less populated city with less cars, but has a lot of crime then it might work. I more think a Tokyo location fits for an amazing Midnight Club game, which I think they have thought of it before. Midnight Club 2's Tokyo map was really great it also had a Paris map but was too narrow aside from the highways and the downtown just like real life and you got stuck many times. I haven't played Yakuza games but I think they avoided driving cars due to laws  but I don't know, at least on the time they were released.

 

We do like exploring other cities we might never visit! So how about Instead of crime/gta types,  to see open world games set in other cities absolutely, but they don't have to be crime like I said, we can explore other locations we will probably never visit in a gta or in real life with what games are capable of doing today. Let's say an open world game set in Barcelona for example, all of the Iberia area, Portugal, Spain, and you roam around, it might have a story too so it's not similar to Euro Truck Simulator 2 just not that of a crime like this as it's not quite correct honestly, doesn't fit.

Spoiler

Find videos like these of cities and compare them with American ones.

 

 

 

Edited January 18 by 44Orca

[Exsanguination]

I’d like to see one set it in “Carcer City” heavily based on Detroit and other Midwest/rust belt cities and have a lot of rough hoods and urban decay… wish they’d squeezed another in during the 3D era. 
 

Honestly though I’m glad the next one will be in Vice city… I mean it just would be kind weird if it wasn’t really. 
 

 GTA VII, LOL maybe I’ll still be around these forums.

Edited December 22, 2022 by Exsanguination

[universetwisters]

Because people (both devs and players) would rather relive old memories than make new ones

 

Kinda sad tbh but what can ya do about it

[D T]

Because the top dogs at Rockstar are boomers who grew up watching 80s action films set in Miami and Los Angeles.

[2L8]

11 hours ago, Exsanguination said:

I’d like to see one set it in “Carcer City” heavily based on Detroit and other Midwest/rust belt cities and have a lot of rough hoods and urban decay… wish they’d squeezed another in during the 3D era. 
 

Honestly though I’m glad the next one will be in Vice city… I mean it just would be kind weird if it wasn’t really. 
 

 GTA VII, LOL maybe I’ll still be around these forums.

dunno man, a gta styled gameplay in a clusterphobic, decayed city like carcer isn't going to work that well, besides gta locals are based in real life cites, and carcer isn't based on a city, instand taking inspirations from other cites

[Krooked_]

21 minutes ago, 2L8 said:

dunno man, a gta styled gameplay in a clusterphobic, decayed city like carcer isn't going to work that well, besides gta locals are based in real life cites, and carcer isn't based on a city, instand taking inspirations from other cites

Well, 3D Liberty City isn't entirely based on New York City either but also Midwestern cities like Chicago and Philadelphia. Vice City is probably the first game where they tried to be more accurate with the locations.

 

I personally would like them to revisit cities that we haven't yet seen in the HD era like Vice City, obviously, but also Las Venturas and San Fierro. A prequel to IV, V and VI set in 70s Las Venturas or San Fierro would be pretty interesting.

[Jeansowaty]

Who the f*ck said Carcer City is completely decayed? It isn't, it's only certain parts that were locked off during Manhunt. And abandoned places exist in virtually all GTAs, IV has Acter Industrial for example.

[Mr Philips]

On 12/22/2022 at 12:01 AM, kobeni said:

It's wishful thinking but I wished they did another UK based game again.

Me too! There's no 3D or HD GTA London, it's well overdue! 

 

On 12/22/2022 at 2:20 AM, Exsanguination said:

I’d like to see one set it in “Carcer City” heavily based on Detroit and other Midwest/rust belt cities and have a lot of rough hoods and urban decay… wish they’d squeezed another in during the 3D era. 

That would be perfect! 

A lot happens in Detroit so having a GTA game set in Detroit would be fun. 

 

On 12/22/2022 at 1:23 PM, D T said:

Because the top dogs at Rockstar are boomers who grew up watching 80s action films set in Miami and Los Angeles.

Agreed, Vice City was heavily influenced on Scarface and Miami Vice. 

[Muller147]

On 12/21/2022 at 7:21 AM, Aquamaniac said:

There are lot of discussions about this in various location wishlist topics. My personal opinion is that in order to be nearly plausible a GTA must be set in a country with notorious gun violence, this rules out Japan and European countries maybe with the exception of France. France is not notorious for gun violence but at least criminals there have access to "heavy" weapons. I have seen plenty of French action movies and what works in movies would work in a GTA also. On the other hand with the terror attacks, a GTA France would maybe feel way of off, but Paris could work, also in terms of culture and movie references. I'd favor France over UK, but UK has some unique vehicles plus left side drive.

 

I guess it will never happen, given how long development lasts and there are still interesting US locations like Las Vegas, Pacific-Northwest Locations, the south, Texas, New York combined with rural New England.

 

 

I agree it would just feel off, although if that's what Rockstar believe someone at the company should also pose the question to those same people of 'In what place on the entire planet can a bloke suddenly decide to slow down time when driving or another be able to do it while shooting?' 

With what GTAO has descended into I don't think they have a leg to stand on regarding realism in the franchise anymore.

[kobeni]

On 12/22/2022 at 8:41 AM, 44Orca said:

Aside USA they don't because they might not be able to? , or the laws of those countries might not agree with a violent crime game set in that country.

They've done Brazil for Max Payne 3 and it was pretty good. Honestly, I very much doubt the respective countries would care anyway, the most Rockstar would get is a ban in that country. Happened to Infinity Ward with No Russian in the OG Modern Warfare 2.

 

Unless of course China, for a myriad of reasons.

Edited January 18 by kobeni

[44Orca]

On 1/18/2023 at 5:54 AM, kobeni said:

They've done Brazil for Max Payne 3 and it was pretty good. Honestly, I very much doubt the respective countries would care anyway, the most Rockstar would get is a ban in that country. Happened to Infinity Ward with No Russian in the OG Modern Warfare 2.

 

Unless of course China, for a myriad of reasons.

Sure but this is an open world game that's why I am saying this unlike with Max Payne 3 or Call of Duty games. Now about Brazil I don't think there will be any problems, I mentioned South America, I meant all locations might be possible to choose, I think a setting there will work with no issues.

São Paulo sure was designed well, an open world version of that map would had been nice to have there.

I can see China being possible (only some locations like Hong Kong etc you know why) but it'd be best to leave that to Sleeping Dogs games whenever that comes back from the dead, I liked a lot that game.

Edited January 19 by 44Orca

[Kris194]

Because bringing other continents like for example Europe would require massive changes in GTA formula to the point where quite many people could say, that it's not GTA anymore.

Edited January 19 by Kris194

[Ondr4H]

I would like modern day GTA London, yeah there is Watch Dogs, but is trash.

 

But old rockstar is gone, so rather no...

[Copcaller]

Similar to the fallout series the franchise is built off of satire of American culture. Not many 1st world countries have the amount of gangs and the ease of getting a firearm like USA either. I wouldn't mind seeing games set in different regions like Columbia or Russia but with rockstars current writing quality I'm not sure if I'd like it. 

[Mr Philips]

On 1/18/2023 at 1:20 AM, Yoona said:

But tbh I always wanted Moscow to be in a Rockstar Game. Every since I was like 13 I thought it would be cool.

 

And it would probably have to be set in 1990's when there was a lot of crime, corruption and poverty after the Dissolution of the Soviet Union.

This is what I am talking about, this would actually make an interesting GTA game.

 

On 1/18/2023 at 3:54 AM, kobeni said:

They've done Brazil for Max Payne 3 and it was pretty good. Honestly, I very much doubt the respective countries would care anyway, the most Rockstar would get is a ban in that country. Happened to Infinity Ward with No Russian in the OG Modern Warfare 2.

 

Unless of course China, for a myriad of reasons.

Exactly! If they based Max Payne 3 in Brazil without legal trouble then it surely can't hurt them to try setting a game or two in another country outside of the United States.

 

On 1/19/2023 at 10:48 AM, Kris194 said:

Because bringing other continents like for example Europe would require massive changes in GTA formula to the point where quite many people could say, that it's not GTA anymore.

Not necessarily... I'm sure it could still feel like GTA, depending where they go. Some European countries wouldn't care if R* based a game in their cities. Most countries that would be strict about it would probably be religious countries or countries that have strict laws on violent crimes.

[bahraini_carguy]

My main "problem" is with how would R* deal with satire, parody and such. I feel like GTA is mainly centered on America and it's life, culture, crime world, policies and what not. Not to mention that the developers and writers are mainly based in US and UK so they know and experienced heck a lot more about their own countries than someone like myself.

 

Maybe it's just because I'm viewing it from my outsider's point of view but I'm not fully sure how well will they nail all the things in say Poland, India, Argentina or South Korea.

 

As someone from Bahrain and is an Arab, a lot of foreign movies & games depiction of Arabs or the Arab world are laughably cringey at best and insultingly horrible at worst. It's often depicted through the skewed lens of outsider's stereotypes (which just boils down to "le terrorist" and "za oil camel money").

They rarely reflect anything close to it's inhabitants, environment, urban cities, culture, language, dialects, history, local stereotypes, struggles, jokes, issues, taste, interests, views, diversity and what not.

 

I rarely relate to anything that video games and hollywood movies try to depict or bring up from above so why should i trust R* in this case?

 

Sorry for turning this whole post into a dumb rant but my whole point is somehwat similar to what @copcaller and @kris194 are trying to say. GTA is built off America and I'm not sure how good of a job are they going to pull off a GTA game based in Japan, Russia or South Africa. Gameplay and narrative might be one thing (well, two actually) but parody, one of GTA's hallmarks, is another to consider.

Edited February 7 by bahraini_carguy