Easiest entry for Cayo - Aggressive?

[jitsu8271]

Played Stealth this whole time, entry point either with Velum entry + disguise, or the drainage tunnel, with success. So easy that I tire of this approach, and now I want to go for a challenge.

 

I am going for the aggressive approach.

 

Where is the best entry point, so that I can disable the control tower. get the supply drop, and shoot my way into the compound? 

Edited November 27, 2022 by jitsu8271

[God-eater]

Velum, then. I mean, if you're going to insist on doing Cayo the longest and least profitable way...

[Rotorhead359]

Velum, but without weapon stash. Does not void the elite challenge.

With any other approach, you have to get to the compound undetected, and then blow the main gate doors.

 

edit: the problem with Aggressive Approach on Cayo is that the game assumes you're doing stealth, and docks you the elite challenge for getting detected by the guards at any point.

The 2 options above are the only way to do the Aggressive elite challenge.

Edited November 27, 2022 by Rotorhead359

[ambi3nt]

I feel like you will change your mind soon enough and come back to stealth.. Without extra preps (which is a huge waste of time), Cayo AI is rather broken and can off you in a split second from behind some random bush few hundred meters away. At least stealth your way to the compound 9fill secondaries if solo) and do the mentioned explosives entry.

[VetoClassicFan456]

Or just use longfin approach, jump with it next to the compound and kill the guards to get the code so you can enter, I've seen it in speedruns and done it a few times, can be a bit refreshing for stealth and maybe for loud. Plus you don't need explosives

[Rotorhead359]

On 11/27/2022 at 1:17 PM, ambi3nt said:

I feel like you will change your mind soon enough and come back to stealth.. Without extra preps (which is a huge waste of time),

Cayo AI is rather broken and can off you in a split second from behind some random bush few hundred meters away.

At least stealth your way to the compound 9fill secondaries if solo) and do the mentioned explosives entry.

So this is why I don't do the Aggressive Velum approach,

 

On 11/27/2022 at 1:24 PM, VetoClassicFan456 said:

Or just use longfin approach, jump with it next to the compound and kill the guards to get the code so you can enter, I've seen it in speedruns and done it a few times, can be a bit refreshing for stealth and maybe for loud.

Plus you don't need explosives

and this is why I don't do the Agressive Main Gate approach. I hate doing the explosives prep, and I always source the cutting torch first anyway, just in case.

Usually I decide to go for the side gates last minute and keep stealth (just need to nicely ask someone for the code)

Edited November 28, 2022 by Rotorhead359

[VetoClassicFan456]

1 hour ago, Rotorhead359 said:

 

edit: the problem with Aggressive Approach on Cayo is that the game assumes you're doing stealth, and docks you the elite challenge for getting detected by the guards at any point.

The 2 options above are the only way to do the Aggressive elite challenge.

Wait but actually fun fact, if you get detected AFTER leaving the compound you'll still get the elite, it's important you don't get detected before/inside only

[Rotorhead359]

11 minutes ago, VetoClassicFan456 said:

Wait but actually fun fact, if you get detected AFTER leaving the compound you'll still get the elite, it's important you don't get detected before/inside only

At that point, do you still consider it an aggressive approach? I don't. It just means an aggressive exfiltration.

Anything you do after leaving the compound is part of the exfiltration. (when your objective becomes to leave the island)

After that point, I also don't care about accidentally getting detected, just staying alive for the elite bonus.

Edited November 27, 2022 by Rotorhead359

[VetoClassicFan456]

9 minutes ago, Rotorhead359 said:

I hate doing the explosives prep, and I source the cutting torch anyway, in case I change my mind.

It says it's mandatory but the explosives prep is not required at all.

Also yeah mb exfiltration ≠ infiltrarion, thought it's fun to know though

Edited November 27, 2022 by VetoClassicFan456

[Rotorhead359]

7 minutes ago, VetoClassicFan456 said:

It says it's mandatory but the explosives prep is not required at all.

I know, I always source the cutting torch first. After you source the cutting torch, explosives changes from mandatory to optional.

I just mean that I never go without the cutting torch, aggressive or not. Just in case I decide last minute to do it stealthy anyway.

 

The only time I sourced the explosives before the cutting torch was on my very first run because I figured I'd do all the mandatory preps first. And then realized it was optional and I didn't get to use them.

Edited November 27, 2022 by Rotorhead359

[ghostsoap01]

I tried aggressive once. I decided to do the Velum with no weapons stash last week. I barely was able to collect the secondary targets at the hangar. Enemies kept pouring into the hangar and I'd have to stop collecting to deal with them. Then, on my way to the compound, I had to deal with a helicopter pursuing me and nearly blowing up my vehicle. By the time I got to the compound, I had lost around 100k to being shot at. Once in the compound it wasn't so bad, but getting there.... Never doing it again.

 

My recommendation is if you are bored of the two meta approaches, try a different stealth approach, or try going to different areas to collect secondary targets.

[Clayverlags]

There's no "Aggresive" in my dictionary

Apparently, aggresive approach is intentionally designed to be hard. Infinite spawn of guards is quite enough, in addition, they may shoot in minigun fire rate at the same time. Income from secondary loots is also cut since it is impossible not getting any bit of damage.

[Nutduster]

Aggressive approach to Cayo is not much fun, IMO. I love the aggressive casino (it's in my current rotation with Big Con). But for whatever reason, Rockstar really overamped the guards on the island. You pretty much have to do all the disruption preps as well as the cutting powder in the water supply; skip any of that and the guards and helicopters will make you absolutely miserable. And you lose money hand over fist even if you manage not to die. 

 

I feel like this is a missed opportunity from them really. Going loud is normally super fun, and in keeping with the game design. The stealth mechanics are hiccupy and annoying sometimes even when you know what you're doing. I'd rather go loud at least half the time if I could. But the heist punishes you too severely for doing so.

 

The fact that the island without disruptions is worse than Doomsday act 3 is a little crazy to me. Harder to get through, I think, and you will certainly throw away a lot more money (seeing as Doomsday doesn't work like that).

Edited November 27, 2022 by Nutduster

[Rammer2k]

I tried a "noisy" approach once using the HALO method.  Even with all the disruptions, and the sh*tz powder, the constant AI spawns, and just getting to the compound was more of a chore than a fun challenge. 

[krotex]

I was involved in a total genocide on the island. My friend made all the necessary settings, then we found two more good fighters and together reached the island on a patrol boat. We didn't care about loot or elite challenge, so we started shooting before we even got to the shore. We took the route from the Main Dock to Compound and back to the Airfield. I like it. It was fun. It depends a lot on the company you play with.

[Aquamaniac]

On 11/27/2022 at 8:42 AM, jitsu8271 said:

Played Stealth this whole time, entry point either with Velum entry + disguise, or the drainage tunnel, with success. So easy that I tire of this approach, and now I want to go for a challenge.

 

I am going for the aggressive approach.

 

Where is the best entry point, so that I can disable the control tower. get the supply drop, and shoot my way into the compound? 

 

I'd take the drop zone close to the compound and forget about the tower. Or you take the other drop zone and raid the airfield first and then rush through the map in a Squaddie. But for an agressive approach I'd do all disruptions and go in with a team of four. AUG assault rifle or shoutgun loadout.

[SummerFreeze]

Alkonost. It's possible to parachute into the inside of the fence (not the compound), but it may take you some practice. Once you've got that part down though, you only need to run to the main gate undetected to qualify for aggressive elite.

 

ETA: If you're solo, you might be better off taking the Velum (without hidden weapons) to get aggressive elite. Either that or sneak up all the way to the main gate before blowing it up, but that kinda defeats the point of doing the heist aggressively.

Edited November 28, 2022 by SummerFreeze

[Gridl0k]

+1 for alkonost to the W of the compound, the little sliver that's outside the red circle but inside the front gate.

Edited November 29, 2022 by Gridl0k