GTA 6 Speculation & Discussion [Part 8] - The Rabbit Hole

[MaddenedGhost]

3 hours ago, Zapper said:

 

but the problem is that does the market actually want smaller titles from R*

 

Even the reaction to that whole "next gta is smaller scaled" thing we've heard in July should tell you everything you need to know about this particular question, it was overly negative and people do not want anything small from Rockstar anymore, they want every game to be bigger than the last, and they also somehow want all of this frequently, it's comical how ironic this thinking is.

 

Yes, I know "moderately sized" was misinterpreted, the point is, even if it was correct, the reaction people threw at that was not positive.

1 hour ago, Drimes said:

September 18 gave me a glimpse of what's gonna happen when that trailer finally drops, I'm looking forward to it

Imagine if we've never actually seen anything from the game and we got a proper reveal though.

 

Would've been nice.

Edited January 1 by MaddenedGhost

[VercettiGuy]

Has anybody seen "Snowfall"?

It's on Disney+. I just stumbled upon it out of boredom, now 3 episodes in and it feels like GTA made into a series. The characters, the stories, the way people climb up the ladder of a criminal enterprise by starting off with sh*t jobs, it borrows so much from the GTA formula. I like it.

[lngtrw]

Once Rockstar finally decides to wake up from its coma and release a trailer, I will download it and set it as my new wallpaper

[Xtra510]

I think GTA 6 will release in early 2024

[slowmo2zomo]

at least we got rockstar to finally acknowledge this site on september 17

[44Orca]

1 hour ago, slowmo2zomo said:

at least we got rockstar to finally acknowledge this site on september 17

 

you missed this one?

maybe one day we will get another post like this

Edited January 2 by 44Orca

[Xtra510]

8 minutes ago, 44Orca said:

maybe one day we will get another post like this

correct

[Kris194]

56 minutes ago, VercettiGuy said:

Has anybody seen "Snowfall"?

It's on Disney+. I just stumbled upon it out of boredom, now 3 episodes in and it feels like GTA made into a series. The characters, the stories, the way people climb up the ladder of a criminal enterprise by starting off with sh*t jobs, it borrows so much from the GTA formula. I like it.

 

 

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[Kris194]

55 minutes ago, 44Orca said:

maybe one day we will get another post like this

 

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One day you'll announce next GTA, right?

 

Correct 

[Personano]

5 hours ago, Sean123Sean789 said:

GTA 6 reveal this year OR jar up my ass

Your move Rockstar

Oh sh*t we got stakes now

[Personano]

2 hours ago, Malolaat said:

Do you think the leak restaurant robbery mission could be one of the first missions? When getting into the car at the top there is an inscription "Any vehicle you are seen entering will be known to the law" I think this is information that usually comes up once or twice in the early game

What do you think about this? (sorry if this has been discussed)

It's probably early game. As mentioned by another though, the tutorial-type text always shows up in R* games no matter where you're at in the story. Like a reminder of certain mechanics or something.

 

Could be early game, could just be some random diner robbery we can pull off in free roam. I'm willing to bet the former as it kinda seems like a mission.

[44Orca]

3 minutes ago, Personano said:

It's probably early game. As mentioned by another though, the tutorial-type text always shows up in R* games no matter where you're at in the story. Like a reminder of certain mechanics or something.

 

Could be early game, could just be some random diner robbery we can pull off in free roam. I'm willing to bet the former as it kinda seems like a mission.

I think that one is just a beta mission created for test right there, they can have missions as test right?

like gta san andreas seemed to have if I remember correcty in its development!?

Edited January 2 by 44Orca

[Personano]

7 minutes ago, 44Orca said:

I think that one is just a beta mission created for test right there, they can have missions as test right?

like gta san andreas seemed to have if I remember correcty in its development!?

Oh, this could be it! I hadn't considered full 'test' missions 

[Spider-Vice]

1 hour ago, slowmo2zomo said:

at least we got rockstar to finally acknowledge this site on september 17

They know about us since 2002, mate... lol. Which is when we got our first fansite exclusive screenshot of GTA VC and pretty much officially recognised by them (alongside some other sites over the years of course including GTA Series [Videos])  

[Zapper]

I wouldn't be surprised if R* went through the effort to completely remove some of the specific missions, scenarios and the bits of dialogue that we've seen and heard from the final game. Something like the diner robbery could just be a test scenario, but that's a different question entirely.

[Spider-Vice]

I don't think so, especially if the diner scene is somehow important to the story - e.g. an intro scene, etc. I don't think the leaks/what we've seen was significant enough to warrant scrapping entire missions, we've seen seconds of a few missions, it's not like it was start to end.

[REVENGE777]

21 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

They know about us since 2002, mate... lol. Which is when we got our first fansite exclusive screenshot of GTA VC and pretty much officially recognised by them (alongside some other sites over the years of course including GTA Series [Videos])  

iirc the forums are in the thank you section of VC manual or maybe I’m misremembering 

[Spider-Vice]

5 minutes ago, REVENGE777 said:

iirc the forums are in the thank you section of VC manual or maybe I’m misremembering 

Yep, and our GTA3 minisite from back then too in the III PC? manual I think. They stopped doing that after I think SA but we're there in a few manuals!

 

We've been on the Newswire too a few times, including a mention of the Mapping Los Santos project for GTA V!

https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/1748koo9o3a543/rockstar-fansites-roundup-gtav-art-in-motion-posttrailer-fun-vic.html

https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/1748koo9o8k2k8/rest-in-peace-yeardley-diamond

https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/k49a5887853499/google-maps-powered-street-view-of-liberty-city-via-gtanet.html

etc.

 

https://www.rockstargames.com/search?q=gtanet

https://www.rockstargames.com/search?q=gtaforums

 

[MrBreak16]

I feel like the reason why Rockstar are taking their time to reveal the game is because they want avoid delaying the game after having already revealed it and announced a release window. They are likely waiting for the game to be close to finished before they show anything about.
 

p.s: sorry for crosspost

[Xilurm]

24 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

They know about us since 2002

 

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im sorry

 

1 minute ago, Spider-Vice said:

We still are.

I know lol. The joke was about it being 2002. Always blows my mind how old some of these fansites are.

[Spider-Vice]

We still are.

Edit: Oh indeed, some are still around, some in different forms like Twitter pages, or even focused on videos (GTASeries!).

8 minutes ago, Xilurm said:

I know lol. The joke was about it being 2002. Always blows my mind how old some of these fansites are.

Edited January 2 by Spider-Vice

[Xilurm]

The forum format is what has me surprised though. You'd think most people would've moved on from this type of communication but no. 

[Spider-Vice]

3 minutes ago, Xilurm said:

The forum format is what has me surprised though. You'd think most people would've moved on from this type of communication but no. 

I honestly think there's still nothing more organised than a forum for this type of discussion. Even Reddit isn't quite the same thing and quite a lot of people still prefer this format - real-time social media and chats like Discord also aren't quite the same thing as organised topical and sectioned discussion! I just see Discord as IRC back then, a lot of people chilled on IRC channels but forums were where it's at for a lot of people.

Quite a few big forums are still up too!

 

Also, re: GTA manuals, you can see us peeking around the middle of this GTA Warehouse (another fansite at the time) history page in the GTA VC website (gtavice.com), GTA III PC manual, GTA SA website and manual (already as GTANet)! The days of "webrings"  

https://www.gtawh.com/history

 

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[slowmo2zomo]

43 minutes ago, Zapper said:

I wouldn't be surprised if R* went through the effort to completely remove some of the specific missions, scenarios and the bits of dialogue that we've seen and heard from the final game. Something like the diner robbery could just be a test scenario, but that's a different question entirely.

would be a pretty much wasted effort to put energy into removing stuff just because it was seen early

[safde]

A certain someone usually posts this every new year. But they haven't this time. Someone's gotta fill the gap...

 

[Zapper]

11 minutes ago, slowmo2zomo said:

would be a pretty much wasted effort to put energy into removing stuff just because it was seen early

 

It's Rockstar we're talking about here. I wouldn't be one bit surprised if they did that.

[Ibex Yangir]

6 hours ago, Zapper said:

 

That'd be a neat compromise, for sure. I've said it time and again in this forum over the last few years that making smaller-scaled games between the flagship is the only way of increasing R*'s output, but the problem is that does the market actually want smaller titles from R* (like both Manhunt titles, The Warriors, or Max Payne 3)? The answer is no, and R* knows it. Whatever R* makes in the future will be open-world one way or another

 

Even in VI's case, where Schreier reported it to be a moderately sized release at launch (but still huge by R*'s standards) to be expanded post-launch, I'm not sure what's what. From what we've seen from the leaks, the map is very likely larger than V's

I really want them to work on Bully 2 and Manhunt 3 or another LA Noire or new IP before RDR3 and any of those could let them go old school and make more than one at a time, and i think smaller, not so huge open worlds would be more popular than we think, look at EA and Fallen Order, they swore up n down that nobody wanted linear singleplayer

14 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

I honestly think there's still nothing more organised than a forum for this type of discussion. Even Reddit isn't quite the same thing and quite a lot of people still prefer this format - real-time social media and chats like Discord also aren't quite the same thing as organised topical and sectioned discussion! I just see Discord as IRC back then, a lot of people chilled on IRC channels but forums were where it's at for a lot of people.

Quite a few big forums are still up too!

 

Also, re: GTA manuals, you can see us peeking around the middle of this GTA Warehouse (another fansite at the time) history page in the GTA VC website (gtavice.com), GTA III PC manual, GTA SA website and manual (already as GTANet)! The days of "webrings"  

https://www.gtawh.com/history

 

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I swear ive seen GTA Warehouse somewhere, and that was before i was even into GTA, yeeeeeears ago

[daley86]

So the reveal has to be this year, doesn't it? Pity it'll probably be the end of the year. It's like when they give a release window like "Spring" or "fall" you just always know it's gonna be as late in that season as possible

[luke73tnt]

6 minutes ago, daley86 said:

So the reveal has to be this year, doesn't it? Pity it'll probably be the end of the year. It's like when they give a release window like "Spring" or "fall" you just always know it's gonna be as late in that season as possible

Throwback to when they said they were gonna give us more RDR2 later in the summer and it was literally the last day of summer

[Zapper]

34 minutes ago, Ibex Yangir said:

I really want them to work on Bully 2 and Manhunt 3 or another LA Noire or new IP before RDR3 and any of those could let them go old school and make more than one at a time, and i think smaller, not so huge open worlds would be more popular than we think

 

Maybe a slim chance (well, except Manhunt 3), but then they'd have to consciously allocate resources for that, and with all the rumours about potential map expansions, brand new cities, locations, and missions being added to VI post-launch, I don't know how they'll balance everything.

 

I'd imagine they'd want to fully move on to their next big project as soon as possible while simultaneously working on VI's post-launch support after the latter comes out.

 

L.A. Noire wasn't a small game by any means. It was pretty groundbreaking technically at the time it was released. R* definitely wouldn't want any brand new IP they create to be small-scale nowadays. The only suitable candidate is Bully 2, but even then, Rockstar wanted every single interior to be unique and enterable, even back in 2009, so that game also wouldn't be anything truly small either. Those games would require a minimum of 2.5-3 years in full production, if not more.

Edited January 2 by Zapper