GTA 6 Speculation & Discussion [Part 8] - The Rabbit Hole

[MaddenedGhost]

The summer of 2013 was very freaking cool, we have had screenshots with different "themes" every few weeks, gameplay trailers for GTAV and GTAO during July and August, a launch trailer at the end of August, more info and reviews about the game, the freaking PSN leak fiasco here on the forums.

 

The journey was rough to get to GTAV, but damn did it have its moments.

 

I cannot wait to do it all over again with this freaking game.

 

Bring it on Rockstar!

[Short Dawg]

4 minutes ago, MaddenedGhost said:

The summer of 2013 was very freaking cool, we have had screenshots with different "themes" every few weeks, gameplay trailers for GTAV and GTAO during July and August, a launch trailer at the end of August, more info and reviews about the game, the freaking PSN leak fiasco here on the forums.

 

The journey was rough to get to GTAV, but damn did it have its moments.

 

I cannot wait to do it all over again with this freaking game.

 

Bring it on Rockstar!

Summer of 2018 was cool as well with RDR 2 , after that third trailer Rockstar literally opened the flood gates of info and other cool things that they did over the next 4-5 months up until launch 

[aleccarton]

15 minutes ago, MrBreak16 said:

The PS3 was a very capable console, even more so than the Xbox 360. The reason why so many games looked and runned worse on PS3 in the early years of that generation was because the PS3 had a very complex architecture that developers had a hard time figuring out how to use. So most of the time, devs simply developed their games on Xbox 360 and PC and then ported them to PS3 as best as they could. Once devs started to figure out how to effectively use the PS3's architecture, games were basically identical in terms of graphics and performance between both consoles in the latter years of the gen. It was more obvious with PS3 first party games which looked and runned way better than Xbox 360 first party games.

I'm aware of that but for third-party games it was a terrible console to own. I regret getting it over the 360 in 2010.

[Exsanguination]

59 minutes ago, aleccarton said:

Unrelated but I was just watching this video comparing IV's performance on the PS3 and 360 and jesus christ I forgot what a terrible console the PS3 was

 

It looks great on XSX with 60 FPS. 
 

Back OT: I would like a Russian Mafia presence in VC with references to IV’s story. Doesn’t have to be overdone just maybe a contact with a few missions

Edited December 27, 2022 by Exsanguination

[Authentic Chewf]

2 hours ago, universetwisters said:

Wtf people think the Russian mob is gonna come back again? Tbh I’d hate to see the same enemies from IV come back but, then again, it isn’t unusual lol. Almost a decade ago some Cubans tried to buy lawn equipment a few blocks from where I live with stolen cards given to them by Russians so, even if they do come back, hopefully it’s more of a background role than anything tbh

 

https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/2014/12/03/ormond-police-charge-4-men-in-statewide-identity-theft-ring/30693850007/

https://nypost.com/2018/04/02/how-tarzan-and-a-cuban-duo-got-in-deep-with-a-cocaine-cartel/

 

There was a famous case in Miami from the 90s of a Russian mobster and 2 Cubans who were planning to buy submarines from the now collapsed soviet union so that they could sell it to Colombian cartels.

 

There's a documentary on it which is pretty interesting:

 

I doubt the Russian mob or the Cubans will play a central part in VI's story but there could influence missions in VI, maybe you have to steal weapons and sell them to a cartel crime group.

 

I also wonder if VI will have a story centered around chapters like rdr2. Maybe Jason and Lucia are on the run and each chapter they move to a new location or city and might get involved with a different criminal group or corrupt government

organization like in V. Would be interesting to see in a gta game.

[universetwisters]

1 minute ago, Authentic Chewf said:

I doubt the Russian mob or the Cubans will play a central part in VI's story but there could influence missions in VI, maybe you have to steal weapons and sell them to a cartel crime group.

 

ngl they'd be remiss if they don't feature Cubans at least in some degree beyond influence in VI. They're very big in Miami and they even got their own neighborhood (unless rockstar f*ckin retcons it and turns it into Little Rio idk)

I'll def check that documentary out tho, looks like a watered down version of the Merryweather Heist from V

[slowmo2zomo]

5 hours ago, MaddenedGhost said:

 

something about this image, other than the giant empty void in the earth, is...off

 

its like plastic. The like new tires despite being driven in dirt and how brightly lit everything in the image is and the lack of shadowed detail in the background 

[IzzyBlues]

6 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

Ah f*ck, time to open Microsoft Word already and draft that out for 3 months from now  

Real men use Notepad.

[44Orca]

so next "timeframe" most people look out for is on  February and March

 

well now let's see 

[Personano]

27 minutes ago, 44Orca said:

so next "timeframe" most people look out for is on  February and March

 

well now let's see 

Kinda wishing I could get mindwiped and forget about the series, if only to make the wait quicker

 

Oh, what's this cool new open world crime game? Never heard of it

[44Orca]

4 minutes ago, Personano said:

Kinda wishing I could get mindwiped and forget about the series, if only to make the wait quicker

 

Oh, what's this cool new open world crime game? Never heard of it

for games it still is the same to me like when first played them, but not tv series/movies

Edited December 27, 2022 by 44Orca

[Pat]

7 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

*looks at AMD RX 5700 XT*

 

(we'll probably be ok... ish - especially with stuff like FSR)

I'm pretty much in the same boat with my 2060s, but my paranoid ass is still worried about whether we'll even get a PC port in the first place, at least within a reasonable time frame - anything more than the two week period MP3 had would have me eyeing a console. Hell, even two weeks would be difficult for me to bare. I know there's a million reasons why it would make sense for Rockstar to finally start doing simultaneous console and PC releases with VI, like pretty much everyone else in the industry at this point, but then I also think back to that line of code in the first Watch_Dogs that went something like "this is PC only, who cares" and I find myself wondering how many Rockstar employees would buy that Ubisoft employee a beer.

 

I'm getting to the point where I'll be tempted to immediately skip to the end of the trailer whenever we get it, just so I can see which platforms it's listed for. Knowing Rockstar, they'll probably forgo listing the platforms altogether and finally drive me insane.

[Nawaf]

The E&E doesn’t make sense, since they didn’t made big dlcs for it. I was expecting more from it, but that all gone to waste. It was better to throw all that resource into GTA 6, which might made the game come sooner then 2024/2025.

[lngtrw]

3 hours ago, IzzyBlues said:

Real men use Notepad.

*MS DOS

 

 

Could this be the last free game given away? 

 

If they gave GTA 5 for free I don't doubt it

 

 

Edited December 27, 2022 by lngtrw

[Edward RDRIII]

10 hours ago, MaddenedGhost said:

RDR2's base also V, early dev footage and screenshots shown in one of those GDC presentations show V's squared radar in RDR2's early dev days, I'd say every game after IV was a mix of all they got.

I have another theory, I saw this GDC video about RDR2's horses that you're talking about which the game looked like GTA 5 and even had the square radar, but for me its foundation still was RDR1, what may have happened is that eventually, around 2015, RAGE's graphics still looked like GTA 5 before they upgraded it even further to look like it did on RDR2's release. Take a look at this screenshot of RDR2's early development stages, it basically looked like they added Lemoyne to RDR1.

 

10 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

Yeah it's always kind of a mix, when Max Payne 3 released, it had GTA IV and RDR1 (yup!) stuff in it, alongside some GTA V early engine stuff in it too, including handling lines and so on that leaked in the Xbox 360 files. GTA V was based off IV but also some of the developments they did for MP3, plus GTA V specific stuff of course.

 

RDR2 was pretty much based off GTA V yeah, and VI was likely based off a mix of both V and RDR2 (plus new stuff of course) much like what happened with MP3/GTA V.

 

Edit:

Perfect tl;dr I guess.  

GTA 6 looks like it's literally being made on top of RDR2, they even showed that Arthur's hat is still on the files in one of the clips lol.

[Rockstarter]

 

[New_B]

I see u, Jason.

 

 

[Short Dawg]

1 hour ago, Nawaf said:

The E&E doesn’t make sense, since they didn’t made big dlcs for it. I was expecting more from it, but that all gone to waste. It was better to throw all that resource into GTA 6, which might made the game come sooner then 2024/2025.

I doubt every last resource was it into “E&E” , people really need to think before they type 

[MaddenedGhost]

47 minutes ago, Edward RDRIII said:

I have another theory, I saw this GDC video about RDR2's horses that you're talking about which the game looked like GTA 5 and even had the square radar, but for me its foundation still was RDR1, what may have happened is that eventually, around 2015, RAGE's graphics still looked like GTA 5 before they upgraded it even further to look like it did on RDR2's release. Take a look at this screenshot of RDR2's early development stages, it basically looked like they added Lemoyne to RDR1.

 

GTA 6 looks like it's literally being made on top of RDR2, they even showed that Arthur's hat is still on the files in one of the clips lol.

RDR2 has helicopter handling files from V as well as other leftover stuff that are specific to V, rather than the Rage Engine (V's loading music is in RDR2's file directory) I'd say the foundation of RDR2 is largely based on V rather than RDR1, but since V itself is a mix of 3 other games, RDR2 is a mix.

Edited December 27, 2022 by MaddenedGhost

[Nawaf]

13 minutes ago, Short Dawg said:

I doubt every last resource was it into “E&E” , people really need to think before they type 

You didn’t get my point, the TEAM who worked on it, might’ve helped making the game come to 2023.

Edited December 27, 2022 by Nawaf

[Edward RDRIII]

3 minutes ago, MaddenedGhost said:

RDR2 has helicopter handling files from V as well as other leftover stuff that are specific to V, rather than the Rage Engine (V's loading music is in RDR2's file directory) I'd say the foundation of RDR2 is largely based on V rather than RDR1, but since V itself is a mix of 3 other games, RDR2 is a mix.

I'd say it was a mix of RDR1 and GTA 5 then.

[lngtrw]

43 minutes ago, New_B said:

I see u, Jason.

 

 

He's everywhere

But I can't seem to find  anywhere

[draftigabe]

9 hours ago, aleccarton said:

Unrelated but I was just watching this video comparing IV's performance on the PS3 and 360 and jesus christ I forgot what a terrible console the PS3 was

 

The more I think of it and the crazier it is that GTAV was made for these consoles, the hardware gap between the GTAV release and the GTAVI release is gigantic  

[patron4ik]

7 hours ago, Authentic Chewf said:

https://nypost.com/2018/04/02/how-tarzan-and-a-cuban-duo-got-in-deep-with-a-cocaine-cartel/

 

There was a famous case in Miami from the 90s of a Russian mobster and 2 Cubans who were planning to buy submarines from the now collapsed soviet union so that they could sell it to Colombian cartels.

 

There's a documentary on it which is pretty interesting:

 

I doubt the Russian mob or the Cubans will play a central part in VI's story but there could influence missions in VI, maybe you have to steal weapons and sell them to a cartel crime group.

 

I also wonder if VI will have a story centered around chapters like rdr2. Maybe Jason and Lucia are on the run and each chapter they move to a new location or city and might get involved with a different criminal group or corrupt government

organization like in V. Would be interesting to see in a gta game.

 

There s a "Russian Tow Truck" if im not mistaken. Potentially hinting at them holding a district maybe ? 

[Zapper]

42 minutes ago, Nawaf said:

You didn’t get my point, the TEAM who worked on it, might’ve helped making the game come to 2023.

 

The game just wasn't coming out in 2023. That much was set in stone when the pandemic hit and didn't stop within a few months. Shelving E&E wouldn't have changed that. R*'s target window was 2022-'23 before the pandemic, which most likely was shifted to 2024-'25 within the last couple years.

 

Most of E&E's actual improvements are RT stuff, probably backported from VI anyway, and engine-related fixes (like completely decoupling physics from frame rate), which will also be implemented in VI as well. It also lets them gauge the capabilities of the current-gen consoles like GTAV's PS4/One version did for RDR2.

 

Plus, there are other factors like workload management, general AAA development issues, and current-gen console sales that probably influenced the release window. 

[Spider-Vice]

5 hours ago, 44Orca said:

so next "timeframe" most people look out for is on  February and March

 

No that's not what I meant, please  

[MaddenedGhost]

8 hours ago, slowmo2zomo said:

something about this image, other than the giant empty void in the earth, is...off

 

its like plastic. The like new tires despite being driven in dirt and how brightly lit everything in the image is and the lack of shadowed detail in the background 

I think I get what you are saying, the lighting feels off, this imagine looks like an equivalent of those original cartoony screenshots before GTA3 was released, which looked different from the final game.

[44Orca]

38 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

No that's not what I meant, please  

wait me confused, what you mean, I just say when most people expect something from what I personally noticed it that it seems to be february and march. The other months fall off until I guess October again.

 

(I didn't read the 3 previous pages I was not here, I will read them later to catch up )

Edited December 27, 2022 by 44Orca

[Spider-Vice]

3 minutes ago, 44Orca said:

wait me confused, what you mean, I just say when most people expect something from what I personally noticed it that it seems to be february and march. The other months fall off until I guess October again.

Oh alright I thought it was a joke reference to my post earlier saying "March"  

[Nawaf]

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