GTA 6 Speculation & Discussion [Part 8] - The Rabbit Hole

[Edward RDRIII]

44 minutes ago, Dick Justice said:

Unpopular opinion but if it's gonna take 10+ years for new RDR games then I'm all for ending the Grand Theft Auto franchise.

 

That way maybe we can get a RDR game every 6-7 years.

Don't even worry about this, RDR3 probably will be the last one of the franchise.

[Edward RDRIII]

2 hours ago, BigBoyBertram said:

Rockstar has my blessing to retire the Red Dead Franchise after they finish the van der Linde Gang Trilogy. Should be great when it releases in 2045!

 

                         

RDR3 on Canada, USA and Mexico to end the franchise gloriously. 

 

51 minutes ago, MrBreak16 said:

Considering that GTA is their most popular franchise, that is extremely unlikely

That's impossible lol.

Edited December 15, 2022 by Edward RDRIII

[Kris194]

Guys, are you ready for GTA VI Witcher 3?

 

 

[Joel Saleth]

17 minutes ago, Kris194 said:

Guys, are you ready for GTA VI Witcher 3?

 

 

What are you saying even high end pcs are not giving 60fps

[Zapper]

6 hours ago, kenobajungleahuh said:

I could imagine Rockstar using it as a solid base to add on new stories and locations like the initial "Americas" leaks seemed to be pointing towards while also updating it graphically as technology improves, almost like they're testing now with the raytraced reflections on the new consoles.

 

Honestly, this is what most leaks are talking about. Schreier pointed in this direction. It's noteworthy that nothing he said was explicitly about online only. Axios reported about an initial "3 cities, 4 protagonists" idea a while ago, which was scaled back with intentions of expansions in the future. Increasing the longevity of VI also gives R* time to revisit their other IPs or make a new one.

 

So, my guess would be that we can see R* updating the game with a big map expansion after, say, 3 years of the initial release, then another one in the future, then maybe one more. All of them probably would be free for GTAO, but for single-player, they would be like paid expansions with a campaign. How or whether R* will go forward with this plan remains to be seen. Of course, it's possible everything they add in the future is online-only, but I don't think even they know everything for sure at this very moment.

[Dick Justice]

2 hours ago, MrBreak16 said:

Considering that GTA is their most popular franchise, that is extremely unlikely

2 hours ago, Joel Saleth said:

Gta is the only game which made the team Rockstar emerge. Even if they starting making new ones, many will expect only the three magic letters G T A .  If GTA ends= Rockstar Ends

One more info in my Country there are team of developers trying to make a game which may emerge as a competitor to GTA called “ Mumbai Gullies”. The game is still in alpha so may take some years to come . The alpha gameplay is already on YouTube 

Relax fellas, just a joke based on what @Yoona said ^^ up there. 

[lngtrw]

Can someone explain to me why the f*ck does Minecraft run worse than GTA V on Max Settings  I get 90+ frames in GTA V, maxed out, whereas in Minecraft I only have like 30+ frames

 

GTA VI better run better than 30 Frames

[aleccarton]

14 minutes ago, lngtrw said:

Can someone explain to me why the f*ck does Minecraft run worse than GTA V on Max Settings  I get 90+ frames in GTA V, maxed out, whereas in Minecraft I only have like 30+ frames

 

GTA VI better run better than 30 Frames

What are your specs?

I have an i5 10400f paired with a GTX 1650S and I'm thinking of getting a used 2070S because of how bad new games run

[MrBreak16]

15 minutes ago, lngtrw said:

Can someone explain to me why the f*ck does Minecraft run worse than GTA V on Max Settings  I get 90+ frames in GTA V, maxed out, whereas in Minecraft I only have like 30+ frames

 

GTA VI better run better than 30 Frames

Try playing GTAIV on max settings.

[jacqueks]

Is there any teensy weensy chance that the White rabbit shown in the rockstar newsire is related to VI????

[lngtrw]

5 minutes ago, aleccarton said:

What are your specs?

I have an i5 10400f paired with a GTX 1650S and I'm thinking of getting a used 2070S because of how bad new games run

My CPU is a Ryzen 9 5900HS, and my GPU is an RTX 3060.

 

Ram is 16gbs

 

Pretty sure it's not the specs

8 minutes ago, MrBreak16 said:

Try playing GTAIV on max settings.

I have. At first I had unlock the ability to set the game's graphics to max cuz for some reason, the game thought I had 438MBs of VRAM instead of the 6gbs I have

 

[44Orca]

rtx cards 2000 and 3000 series might be outdated until then, is best to upgrade when gta vi comes to pc, we will have 5000 or 6000 series by then.

Edited December 15, 2022 by 44Orca

[MrBreak16]

31 minutes ago, lngtrw said:

My CPU is a Ryzen 9 5900HS, and my GPU is an RTX 3060.

 

Ram is 16gbs

 

Pretty sure it's not the specs

I have. At first I had unlock the ability to set the game's graphics to max cuz for some reason, the game thought I had 438MBs of VRAM instead of the 6gbs I have

 

Oh yeah I hate that, I had to put command lines to bypass it

[Spider-Vice]

3 hours ago, Kris194 said:

Guys, are you ready for GTA VI Witcher 3?

 

 

 

Well that game's next gen version has actual problems on top, so putting GTA VI beside it might be unfair  Also that is at Ultra+, 4K with all the ray tracing bells and rings, damn thing was designed to put high-end GPU's to its knees lmao.

 

1 hour ago, doomfuldark99 said:

Is there any teensy weensy chance that the White rabbit shown in the rockstar newsire is related to VI????

It's more of a reference about 'chasing the white rabbit' and 'going down the rabbit hole' in regards to an LSD hallucination, but hey, maybe we are hallucinating right now  

[Kris194]

1 hour ago, lngtrw said:

I have. At first I had unlock the ability to set the game's graphics to max cuz for some reason, the game thought I had 438MBs of VRAM instead of the 6gbs I have

We can keep laughing but the current rumour is, that RTX 4060 Ti will have 128 bit memory bus and 8 GB of VRAM, less than RTX 3060, absolutely ridiculous.

[Zapper]

13 minutes ago, Kris194 said:

We can keep laughing but the current rumour is, that RTX 4060 Ti will have 128 bit memory bus and 8 GB of VRAM, less than RTX 3060, absolutely ridiculous.

 

Nothing to see here. NVIDIA being cunts again.

[FAH-Q]

1 hour ago, doomfuldark99 said:

Is there any teensy weensy chance that the White rabbit shown in the rockstar newsire is related to VI????

2023 is the Year of the Rabbit  

[MrBreak16]

I am 100% confident that 2023 will be the year where we will get the first official images of GTAVI and the game's logo

[avgGTAenjoyer]

Who's ready for #ROCKUARY? 

 

LFG 

[PolandMountain]

4 hours ago, Joel Saleth said:

What are you saying even high end pcs are not giving 60fps

Optimization issues, on my Ryzen 9 and 3080 10 gb without DLSS I am getting 30-35 FPS, on same settings so everything to the right including RT I am getting 25 to 30 FPS in CP77, not to mention I get those frames in middle of a city and in Witcher I get those in the first village you visit at the start of the game, with DLSS quality it’s even worse, I get better performance in Cyberpunk.

 

So we shouldnt be worried about PCs performance nor GTA VI performance on current hardware, it’s just rushed unpolish release and tbh we should’ve expected that, not many remember that but W3 when it released was at least as buggy as CP77.

[Joel Saleth]

12 minutes ago, PolandMountain said:

Optimization issues, on my Ryzen 9 and 3080 10 gb without DLSS I am getting 30-35 FPS, on same settings so everything to the right including RT I am getting 25 to 30 FPS in CP77, not to mention I get those frames in middle of a city and in Witcher I get those in the first village you visit at the start of the game, with DLSS quality it’s even worse, I get better performance in Cyberpunk.

 

So we shouldnt be worried about PCs performance nor GTA VI performance on current hardware, it’s just rushed unpolish release and tbh we should’ve expected that, not many remember that but W3 when it released was at least as buggy as CP77.

OH my I hope my rtx 2060 can still for atleast 9 years

[Retro_Causality]

8 hours ago, Joel Saleth said:

Only in our dreams Santa Claus will come and deliver lucia and jason ( I mean sorry 6 logos ) as presents for us.

I think they would have changed their looks by now resembling the real actors behind them.

yeah but i doubt it would be a massive change... the voice actor sounds southern

[REVENGE777]

22 hours ago, Scott Ransom said:

Do you think it's possible that Jason could be half Mexican?

Man jason looks white as wonderbread lol I doubt he’s any sort of Hispanic

[H-G]

Here's my two cents: What are the odds of R* changing up Jason and Lucia's names for whatever reason during the development of the game? Y'know, kinda like how Micheal and Trevor were originally named Albert and Simon, respectively...

[REVENGE777]

2 minutes ago, H-G said:

Here's my two cents: What are the odds of R* changing up Jason and Lucia's names for whatever reason during the development of the game? Y'know, kinda like how Micheal and Trevor were originally named Albert and Simon, respectively...

those were code names but i don’t think we ever saw any pre release builds with those names used. Since Jason and Lucia’s names are already all over the code at this point I doubt it’s going to change. Especially with voicelines and mocap already being produced.

[H-G]

Just now, REVENGE777 said:

those were code names but i don’t think we ever saw any pre release builds with those names used.

IDK mang, but the unused audio for the cut "Sharmoota Job" heist in V called feature Micheal and Trevor posing as a gay couple in front of an estate agent and Micheal is referred to as "Albert" in one of the lines (maybe Trevor is called "Simon" too IIRC?).

[NightmanCometh96]

4 minutes ago, H-G said:

Here's my two cents: What are the odds of R* changing up Jason and Lucia's names for whatever reason during the development of the game? Y'know, kinda like how Micheal and Trevor were originally named Albert and Simon, respectively...

Weren't those names only meant for the Project Rush casting calls? The only time I can think of R* changing a (significant) name in later on in production is RDR2, where New Bordeaux was renamed Saint Denis.

[Len Lfc]

8 minutes ago, H-G said:

Here's my two cents: What are the odds of R* changing up Jason and Lucia's names for whatever reason during the development of the game? Y'know, kinda like how Micheal and Trevor were originally named Albert and Simon, respectively...

They weren't originally named Albert & Simon. They were false names for the purpose of a casting call.

[PolandMountain]

On 12/10/2022 at 12:27 PM, Uncle Sikee Atric said:

Development is never just a straight line, and you can't flatly state, 'it'll be X years to complete this.'

What you said here is correct, but still, it doesn't mean it's impossible to make fairly reliable estimate how long it may take, of course it will be rough estimation but still after adding some factors like for example management issues we still should get fairly accurate estimation, we already have plenty of information about various big games and their development including Rockstar Games itself and based on the knowledge from previous developments and previous games we can still make estimates. Also I re-read what I said few times and unless I don't see my wording error I don't see myself flatly stating that something will take X to complete, all I said was something in style "something around from X to X", I think I only went a bit too far 2020 - 2021, I should place 2021-2022 there instead.

I think even if we had this funny virus and they changed their crunch policy and studio management, VIs development as an active development shouldn't take more than it took for RDR 2, RDR 2 was pretty much already bad case scenario, reportedly making of RDR 2 was more of a winding river rather than straight line with mountains here and there (how development usually looks), also at least until 2014 project wasn't the main focus for most human resources at Rockstar as there still were major problems with GTA Online, they were cooking next gen version of GTA V and they were making Heists DLC for Online.

 

Spoiler

I had no time for GTA Forums lately until today, sorry for late answer.

 

Edited December 15, 2022 by PolandMountain

[Joel Saleth]