VC Released Tightened Vice

[_Rob_]

Just now, H-G said:

I don't think installing Mod Loader is a chore considering everybody heavily uses it nowadays. Using ML for your mods not only makes installation even more easier than it already is, but it also keeps your OG GTA copy intact so you don't even need to touch the game files.

 

I'm well aware of what it is lol, but I disagree with the idea that "everybody heavily uses it" or that it makes things easier than a single copy/paste.

Either way, not a route I'm looking to go down, selfish as it may sound.

[Guest]

13 hours ago, _Rob_ said:

 

I'm well aware of what it is lol, but I disagree with the idea that "everybody heavily uses it" or that it makes things easier than a single copy/paste.

Either way, not a route I'm looking to go down, selfish as it may sound.

Fair enough. I'll just find a way to adapt it to my own installation of ML then, but just try to separate the streamer-friendly radio stuff into an optional archive in the next release, yeah?

Edited November 20, 2022 by H-G

[PhPmayan]

How do I install the patch? just copy and paste the files? i'm on 1.6

[_Rob_]

53 minutes ago, PhPmayan said:

How do I install the patch? just copy and paste the files? i'm on 1.6

 

Correct! Just copy and pasted it over the top, replacing the old ones (noted that I should include another readme in the patch versions in the future too).

On another note, has anyone reading this ever managed to change hardcoded interior definitions?
I currently have 1 of the 3 stadium events changed to be a difficult golf themed challenge (with appropriate background music), the next one I'm going for something else. But of course all of the stadium events fall under the same interior, and ideally I'd like each one to use different background music.

Edited November 20, 2022 by _Rob_

[AlexP15]

Hello, I am getting an Unhandled Exception as soon as I start a new game, what could be the cause? Regular VC works just fine for me.

 

 

EDIT: After some testing, I've determined that the causes are the "vc traffic" and "vc weather" files in the scripts folder, if that helps at all.

EDIT 2: I tried to just play without those files, but then I got another Unhandled Exception upon completing The Party, and I wonder if it's because of the autosave.

Edited November 21, 2022 by AlexP15

[_Rob_]

19 hours ago, AlexP15 said:

Hello, I am getting an Unhandled Exception as soon as I start a new game, what could be the cause? Regular VC works just fine for me.

 

 

EDIT: After some testing, I've determined that the causes are the "vc traffic" and "vc weather" files in the scripts folder, if that helps at all.

EDIT 2: I tried to just play without those files, but then I got another Unhandled Exception upon completing The Party, and I wonder if it's because of the autosave.

Hard to tell from this info, unfortunately. How have you installed it, which version of VC are you trying to play it with etc. The fact removing the ASIs you did, made it work, is stranger still tbh (and playing without them does mean things will be a fair beat easier than intended too)! Perhaps a DEP issue, I know that can sometimes screw with vanilla VC, let alone with plugins etc.

Also while I'm here, some small updates!

 

Edited November 22, 2022 by _Rob_

[AlexP15]

16 hours ago, _Rob_ said:

Hard to tell from this info, unfortunately. How have you installed it, which version of VC are you trying to play it with etc. The fact removing the ASIs you did, made it work, is stranger still tbh (and playing without them does mean things will be a fair beat easier than intended too)! Perhaps a DEP issue, I know that can sometimes screw with vanilla VC, let alone with plugins etc.

Also while I'm here, some small updates!

 

Well, I have the retail 1.0 version (or at least I'm fairly sure it's 1.0, I should get a 1.0 exe just to make sure though), and I installed the mod by simply copying all the files in my game folder and replacing when it asked me to. I also had no modifications or anything, just a completely clean copy of VC.

I don't really know what other info to give you, Vice City has given me a lot of trouble in the past, even when using simple fixes like Widescreen fix, though I resolved that one already. It really wasn't easy for me to get it run it properly though, I had to jump through so many hoops just for a working copy with a few fixes.

 

[Sir_Featherstone]

I have a bit of a general installation question. I currently use the 'Definitive Edition' mod pack for my Steam copy of the game. What would be my best method of installing this mod?

 

Install a fresh copy, downgrade it and install this mod?

[_Rob_]

5 hours ago, AlexP15 said:

Well, I have the retail 1.0 version (or at least I'm fairly sure it's 1.0, I should get a 1.0 exe just to make sure though), and I installed the mod by simply copying all the files in my game folder and replacing when it asked me to. I also had no modifications or anything, just a completely clean copy of VC.

I don't really know what other info to give you, Vice City has given me a lot of trouble in the past, even when using simple fixes like Widescreen fix, though I resolved that one already. It really wasn't easy for me to get it run it properly though, I had to jump through so many hoops just for a working copy with a few fixes.

 

Ahh okay, that makes a little more sense. Widescreen fix is bundled in with this for a start, but yeah if other ASI mods cause issues for you on vanilla VC, then I'm really not sure what else to suggest here.

 

4 hours ago, Sir_Featherstone said:

I have a bit of a general installation question. I currently use the 'Definitive Edition' mod pack for my Steam copy of the game. What would be my best method of installing this mod?

 

Install a fresh copy, downgrade it and install this mod?

 

Definitely a fresh copy of VC on 1.0 is the best place to start, yeah. Tightened changes an awful lot of files so anything conflicting is bound to cause issues (including modloader etc).

[AlexP15]

14 minutes ago, _Rob_ said:

Ahh okay, that makes a little more sense. Widescreen fix is bundled in with this for a start, but yeah if other ASI mods cause issues for you on vanilla VC, then I'm really not sure what else to suggest here.

That's okay, thanks for the reply still! I'm gonna try to reinstall VC and make sure it's 1.0 and go from there.

[_Rob_]

Time for another update!

 

Download V1.7 Full Mod: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vlpg0r49joasg60/GTA Tightened Vice - V1.7 Full.rar?dl=0

Download V1.7 Patch Only: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ii5uglj6jhx9a5k/GTA Tightened Vice - V1.7 Patch Only.rar?dl=0

Changelog:

Spoiler

//Phnom Penh, Reduced health of final rooftop gang members in an effort to avoid potential softlock.

//Upgraded one of the "fake" multi-story car parks in Little Haiti to a real one, intended for a side-mission in the future.*

//Fixed jumbled IDs on USJ's (big thanks to Mhmd_FVC for catching that).

//Fixed the USJ landing zone on the car wash roof to be a little more forgiving.
//Removed unnecessary occlusion culling that created issues with objects disappearing from certain angles. 

//Added a unique outfit for the 'Pizza Boy' side mission.

//Fixed the 'MC Tommy' outfit so that it now appears during all 3 Mitch Baker missions.

//Fixed the "property ownership" text after 'Rub Out'.... (inb4 I didn't)

//Fixed text strings for 'Pizza Boy' side-mission so that they make sense for either vehicle.

//Added a bunch of new era-appropriate songs to most radio stations.

 

*New vehicle spawns will only appear here upon starting a new game (limitations of VC).

 

Here's a look at a couple of the above changes

 

[Sir_Featherstone]

Awesome work as always, just downloaded 1.6 last night too. Do I just download the patch, extract to the folder and replace any files? Are save files from 1.6 compatible or recommended to start fresh?

[_Rob_]

1 hour ago, Sir_Featherstone said:

Awesome work as always, just downloaded 1.6 last night too. Do I just download the patch, extract to the folder and replace any files? Are save files from 1.6 compatible or recommended to start fresh?

 

Thanks!
The "Patch Only" version is intended to just overwrite whatever your old version is, so yeah just grab that and replace any files.

Saves from V1.3 and onwards are still compatible with V1.7, with the slight caveat that the new car spawns in the Haiti car park won't appear until you start a new game.

[modernwarfare10]

@_Rob_ I got you a favor, this mod seems to be nice but we cannot use the "Dropbox" service in our country. Could you please upload the mod for me to "Google drive" ? (maybe for everyone as a mirror link)

[_Rob_]

Ahh DEP sounds like a good shout, what a horrible Windows "feature"...

Glad you got it working!

 

9 hours ago, modernwarfare10 said:

@_Rob_ I got you a favor, this mod seems to be nice but we cannot use the "Dropbox" service in our country. Could you please upload the mod for me to "Google drive" ? (maybe for everyone as a mirror link)

 

The mod gets updated quite frequently, so duel hosting would be a real pain to try and keep track of (and a strain on my internet connection).
I think what I'll do is when the "final" version is ready (or work pulls me away from modding entirely), I'll push that version to multiple mirrors so people in your situation can grab it too.

In the meanwhile, is it possible to get around it with a VPN perhaps? 

[Miles Dipperion]

Hello Rob, enjoying (as much as it's possible to enjoy a hardened version of a game) your mod so far. Here's a couple of suggestions for you to consider:
1) Add a failstate for Waste the Wife when the player is driving a tank (The mission is supposed to look like an accident and tank is not something that can make an accident).
2) Remove Hotring Pizza from Hotring event and SSA reward (you can replace it with either HOTRINA or HOTRINB) (it doesn't make sense for this car to be rewarded twice and used in a race against race cars imo).
3) Distribution should have all Pay'n'Sprays locked (because it's an easy wanted level cheese) and maybe wanted level should be rising faster.
4) All armor pickups should be moved elsewhere.

Keep up the good work! Looking forward for the final version.

[modernwarfare10]

11 hours ago, _Rob_ said:

In the meanwhile, is it possible to get around it with a VPN perhaps? 

couldn't download it even with VPN but it seems to be working for now.

[AlexP15]

On 11/24/2022 at 6:12 PM, 0 said:

https://www.mixmods.com.br/2015/03/nodep-desativar-dep/ - I found a way to fix the problem with the crash on loading and after the first mission with the Mercedes Cortez. Download the file at the link above with MixMods and put in the game (I copied into the folder scripts). Tested just now by me and everything works flawlessly.

I didn't see your post at the time, but I just got it to work by simply turning off Data Execution Prevention (which I only just realized is what Rob meant by DEP lmao, I wish my monke brain understood that earlier so I could've tried it days ago).

If anyone runs into the same issues as us and doesn't know how to do this, go into Control Panel -> System and Security -> System -> Advanced System Settings.

Then in the Advanced tab, click the Setting button under Performance. Go to the Data Execution Prevention tab, select 'Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those I select', then click on Add, navigate to your game folder and select the gta_vc executable. That's it!

[_Rob_]

Another weekend, another update!

Again, still compatible with saves from V1.3 onwards (with the exception of missing new car spawns if you're not starting a new game).

 

Changelog:

Spoiler

//Added new 'Pizza Boy? Pizza Man.' stadium event (good luck beating this in the "intended way" lmao).

//Changed USJ sound effect to something more applicable to Tightend's stunts...

//Fixed a possible crash during Mitch Baker's mission strand.

//Changed the moment at which you earn a wanted level in 'Back Alley Brawl' to reduce the RNG chance of Lance dying off-screen (but still keep the difficulty).

//Swapped the "sprinting" tooltip during 'Back Alley Brawl' to something that doesn't contradict Tightened giving infinite sprint from the start.

//Manifested Tommy's guilt at the Pole Position...

 

Download V1.75 Full Mod: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rhetl7l3oo766lk/GTA Tightened Vice - V1.75 Full.rar?dl=0

Download V1.75 Patch Only: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ae3d9pgjpviys84/GTA Tightened Vice - V1.75 Patch Only.rar?dl=0

 

And here's a quick look at how ridiculous 'Pizza Boy? Pizza Man.' is...

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, _Rob_ said:

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//Changed USJ sound effect to something more applicable to Tightend's stunts...

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//Manifested Tommy's guilt at the Pole Position...

A little question, what does the part "manifested Tommy's guilt" mean? Don't tell me you increased the time required to spend for completing that asset...

 

And just wondering, which sound the USJ completion chime was changed for? Crowd cheerings or something?

[_Rob_]

15 minutes ago, H-G said:

A little question, what does the part "manifested Tommy's guilt" mean? Don't tell me you increased the time required to spend for completing that asset...

 

And just wondering, which sound the USJ completion chime was changed for? Crowd cheerings or something?

I've used obscure language deliberately to keep that a bit of a mystery. But it's not something that makes the asset annoying to complete, that would go against the philosophy of the mod.

As for the USJs, it's the sound THPS games use when performing a special trick.

 

[ɪʟ_Duca]

Howdy @_Rob_ and thank you,
Thank you for this fantastic TC, you wouldn't belive it but  I was getting the need of a TC just like yours and then, up of nowhere, i discover both Tightened Vice and GTA3: Toughened, must be my lucky day! 

I wanted to tell you how I'm appreciating your work but I'll make those considerations later on. To be honest, I have little time to play but I admit that I have already started to customize it and dang it man, it's hard to keep up with the speed of your releases.

Eventually I merged GTA:T.V. with the mod I'm working on, "VC Advanced Cops & Gangs", heavely constructed upon (Hollywood) Jack's Wanted Level Editor for VC and in general inspired by his modding work, just consider it an expansion pack of Jack's VC WLE. They both fits togheter pretty well. The latest compatible version of GTA:T.V. is the v1.5, since i'm using MVL and modloader there must be conflict IDs since you're also adding stuff like skins, vehicles and also adding modified buildings, right?

Here you can take a look of  "Juju scramble" with the newer upgrate of Advanced Cops & Gangs (Cops only, the Gangs part crashes the game when loading a savegame or new game). Note that the mission was altered by it, look at the police weapon accuracy, still working to balance it.

Spoiler

Now some written commentary, it was a long time I wasn't playing this fast paced, it's hard to quicly plan a strategy to survive and maybe I got carried away in showing almost all the levels of suspect, but with this mod it is important to keep a low profile in every situation, towards the end I was trying to go to Pay'n'Spray and the only parked car I remembered nearby was the Voodoo. I have failed miserably in the attempt to evade the stars of suspect thanks to the nice "melee cops" that are willing to sacrifice their lives to arrest you instantly. 

Side note: I've used a trainer to start the mission and assing weapons and ammo.

P.S.
Since i mentioned Jack, such talented modder, I think his "HungUpThePhone.asi" would fit GTA:T.V. and can be very usefull. Here's the link:

 

[_Rob_]

13 hours ago, ɪʟ_Duca said:

Howdy @_Rob_ and thank you,
Thank you for this fantastic TC, you wouldn't belive it but  I was getting the need of a TC just like yours and then, up of nowhere, i discover both Tightened Vice and GTA3: Toughened, must be my lucky day! 

I wanted to tell you how I'm appreciating your work but I'll make those considerations later on. To be honest, I have little time to play but I admit that I have already started to customize it and dang it man, it's hard to keep up with the speed of your releases.

Eventually I merged GTA:T.V. with the mod I'm working on, "VC Advanced Cops & Gangs", heavely constructed upon (Hollywood) Jack's Wanted Level Editor for VC and in general inspired by his modding work, just consider it an expansion pack of Jack's VC WLE. They both fits togheter pretty well. The latest compatible version of GTA:T.V. is the v1.5, since i'm using MVL and modloader there must be conflict IDs since you're also adding stuff like skins, vehicles and also adding modified buildings, right?

Here you can take a look of  "Juju scramble" with the newer upgrate of Advanced Cops & Gangs (Cops only, the Gangs part crashes the game when loading a savegame or new game). Note that the mission was altered by it, look at the police weapon accuracy, still working to balance it.

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Now some written commentary, it was a long time I wasn't playing this fast paced, it's hard to quicly plan a strategy to survive and maybe I got carried away in showing almost all the levels of suspect, but with this mod it is important to keep a low profile in every situation, towards the end I was trying to go to Pay'n'Spray and the only parked car I remembered nearby was the Voodoo. I have failed miserably in the attempt to evade the stars of suspect thanks to the nice "melee cops" that are willing to sacrifice their lives to arrest you instantly. 

Side note: I've used a trainer to start the mission and assing weapons and ammo.

P.S.
Since i mentioned Jack, such talented modder, I think his "HungUpThePhone.asi" would fit GTA:T.V. and can be very usefull. Here's the link:

 

Hey, glad you like it! The addons you're toying with are interesting for sure. The conflict of IDs etc makes sense, yeah, there are indeed a lot of new skins, map additions etc.

The 'HungUpThePhone.asi' does seem like something that might work here, I shall look into it; cheers for the heads up!

[ɪʟ_Duca]

4 hours ago, _Rob_ said:

Hey, glad you like it! The addons you're toying with are interesting for sure. The conflict of IDs etc makes sense, yeah [...]

I was hoping for the final release of Tightened Vice to make AC&G compatible with it, I'm not talking about making my work directly associated with yours, just making an addon like you said.

 
So if you'll indicate me 10 free slots before you leave, I will be able to assign different IDs for the new cop peds.
Have fun working on Tightened Vice!

[Miles Dipperion]

Hello again. I got to acquiring Zebra and when entering it, the game crashes. I've seen you mentioning you fixed this issue, so apparently it's back. It's not a major inconvenience because you don't have to drive Zebra in any mission, but still.

[Cosmin540]

Hi there, I was wondering if you could maybe post a list of the new songs you brought in, I got to hear some of them and I thought they were great and I got interested in seeing what else is new.

[_Rob_]

3 hours ago, Miles Dipperion said:

Hello again. I got to acquiring Zebra and when entering it, the game crashes. I've seen you mentioning you fixed this issue, so apparently it's back. It's not a major inconvenience because you don't have to drive Zebra in any mission, but still.

 

Ugh, yes indeed... something really weird about VC's GXTs... Anyway, I've patched over yesterday's release to fix it (both patch and full), thanks for the heads up.

Here's just the GXT fix for convenience: https://www.dropbox.com/s/43o8cphwe1mhu97/TV 1.75 - american GXT Zebra Fix.rar?dl=0
 

31 minutes ago, Cosmin540 said:

Hi there, I was wondering if you could maybe post a list of the new songs you brought in, I got to hear some of them and I thought they were great and I got interested in seeing what else is new.

 

Oh sure:

Spoiler

 - Wave - 

//Talking Heads - This Must Be The Place
//Thomas Dolby - She Blinded Me With Science
//Adam & The Ants - Stand & Deliver
//The Icicle Works - Birds Fly

 

 - Flash -

//Glenn Frey - Smugglers Blues
//Toto - Hold The Line -
//Boys Don't Cry -  I Wanna Be A Cowboy
//Big Country -  In a Big Country

//It Bites - Calling All The Heroes
//Simple Minds - Alive & Kicking
//Madonna - Holiday
//King - Love & Pride

- Fever - 

//Janet Jackson - What Have You Done for Me Lately
//Dazz Band - Let It Whip
//Freddie Mercurcy - Living On My Own

 

- Wildstyle -
Whodini -   The Freaks Come Out at Night 

 - Emotion - 

//Modern English - I Melt with You

//Eurythmics = Thorn In My Side
//Erasure - Sometimes
//Fine Young Cannibals - Johnny Come Home
//OMD - Souvenir
//Midge Ure - If I Was
//Marillion - Kayleigh
//Men At Work - Overkill
//Crowded House - Don't Dream It's Over
//Fleetwood Mac - Little Lies

 - VRock -

//Blue Oyster Cult - Burning For You

//Billy Idol - Rebel Yell
//Bad Brains - I against I

Also while I'm here, here's the third and final stadium event!

 

[Miles Dipperion]

Hello once again. I'm sorry if I get tiring to you with my suggestions but my suggestion is to only keep the "No Tommy Allowed" door on Rub Out because it only makes sense there and having this door locked for the entire playthrough is kinda annoying. For fixing original door collision you can use this fix: https://mega.nz/file/sCQjAQxB#VS4h9BX05YofApNkqQ7MNrylLP_ZGEe1GVzJbdKUo9Q

 

Just replace the col files in mansion.col with those and you're set. I can't PM anyone so I have to put my suggestions here, sorry about that.

Edited November 29, 2022 by Miles Dipperion

[Guest]

On 11/21/2022 at 1:15 AM, _Rob_ said:

On another note, has anyone reading this ever managed to change hardcoded interior definitions?
I currently have 1 of the 3 stadium events changed to be a difficult golf themed challenge (with appropriate background music), the next one I'm going for something else. But of course all of the stadium events fall under the same interior, and ideally I'd like each one to use different background music.

No, it's not possible to change up which interior category uses which ambience audio file. Nobody with enough modding skill has tried to pull that off yet.

 

But in theory, if we can obtain the memory address containing the "DirtRing.mp3" file's path, create a new background music file for each stadium event and then patch that DirtRing.mp3 memory address on the fly using CLEO opcodes inside main.scm to use the corresponding custom audio file when the player starts a stadium event... Maybe it can work that way.

Edited November 29, 2022 by H-G

[_Rob_]

12 minutes ago, H-G said:

No, it's not possible to change up which interior category uses which ambience audio file. Nobody with enough modding skill has tried to pull that off yet.

 

But in theory, if we can obtain the memory address containing the "DirtRing.mp3" file's path, create a new background music file for each stadium event and then patch that DirtRing.mp3 memory address on the fly using CLEO opcodes inside main.scm to use the corresponding custom audio file when the player starts a stadium event... Maybe it can work that way.

 

Interesting, though the problem there is that I'm trying to avoid cleo as it screws with speedrunning and the ability to dupe missions (I'm actually also trying to figure out a way to make the autosave work via ASI instead too).