GTA VI PC Discussion, Requirements...

[SharksFlyUp]

9 hours ago, SM Grunge said:

Besides, if they release the game for PC at the same time as consoles, then not as many people will buy the version from consoles. I have seen a lot of PC gamers say that they will buy a console only to play the game instead of waiting and then buy the PC version when it releases. That way they sell the game twice

Yeah, but again, they're gonna be selling to a ninth gen user base which is currently one third the size of what they had in 2013, and might optimistically be half or 60% of its size by a 2024/5 release date. If they only sell to those customers, they're gonna find it hard to match V's initial sales records yet alone surpass them. Looking at the Steam hardware survey, about 25% of players have hardware that can match or exceed what the ninth gen consoles can do - that's thirty million extra potential customers, enough to make breaking V's records a much easier task, and that's probably an undercount.

Edited October 24, 2023 by SharksFlyUp

[Ser_Salty]

1 hour ago, Len Lfc said:

If it were any other studio, I'd 100% agree. But all I can say is I've heard that no matter what there will never be a day and date PC release of their games. At least not until all of the original leaders have retired.

Can you elaborate on that? (As in, can you safely/legally do so) While it certainly seems company policy for them to not care about PC, I imagine shark cards, GTA+ and whatever else they wanna cram into Online could be enough to change their minds, or enough to get a mandate from T2 to release PC as soon as possible. Also, hey, we're like 2 original leaders down.

 

I'd also like to mention that we have seemingly seen a fairly "stable" (as stable as you'd expect any game 2+ years from release to be) PC build in the leaks. (And yes, actual PC build. I can elaborate on that if needed.) No obvious rendering issues, like flickering lights or objects, z-fighting, broken shadows etc. I mean, there were even some particles floating about, wind in the trees and stuff. Unless they just shelved the PC version for like a year, it seems like a pretty advanced build to have for a version you aren't planning to release for, what, 3 years?

[Spider-Vice]

1 hour ago, Len Lfc said:

If it were any other studio, I'd 100% agree. But all I can say is I've heard that no matter what there will never be a day and date PC release of their games. At least not until all of the original leaders have retired.

Respectfully... What in the world are you talking about?

 

None of the "current leaders" have much of a bearing on whether a PC release happens or not because these are decisions made by publishing and sales people and not necessarily Sam Houser, Rob Nelson or any of the current old-school leads. The gaming industry landscape has changed, Rockstar has very much signalled that PC seems to be more of a priority these days, they most likely aren't gonna be the only ones stuck in the past just because. It might not be a day one release, sure, but it will probably be within a few months if that exactly because of the online components. It basically has to be, and they know that.

RDR2's RAGE brought their most solid PC framework to date, they designed that game from the beginning with PC in mind, going to the point of assigning specific graphics settings presets to the console versions. An evolution of this was seen in the GTA VI leaks, in some of the debug text. It did not release day one on PC, no, they do prioritise console development and sales, but this added an inconsistency in RDO where PC players didn't get all the rewards they should have.

Releasing a behemoth like GTA VI on PC only like a year after would be a mistake that would cost them critically as well (R* aren't unstoppable), because it's 2023, and considering the GTA VI test footage was pretty much all from PC builds I do think they know this. Again, I'm not saying it'll be day one, but I also do think that perspective of yours is one that is stuck in 2015.

 

22 minutes ago, Ser_Salty said:

(As in, can you safely/legally do so)

He's not a Rockstar developer, so... lol. Whoever he's "hearing" things from I feel like they're either also stuck in the past or pulling his leg.  

[Xerukal]

The PC pre-release interviews for GTA V made it pretty clear that it's mostly down to technical reasons. Though, of course, I'm sure it was also very convenient timing that a whole new gen of consoles was coming out. V's triple dip release schedule was lightning in a bottle IMO. Unless VI comes out towards the end of this entire gen, I don't see the same thing happening again. 

 

 

I foresee a 1 year delay between VI console and V PC, at maximum. Speaking more optimistically, we might see a release day one or even just a few weeks/months after.

Edited October 24, 2023 by Xerukal

[Tez2]

2 hours ago, Xerukal said:

Speaking more optimistically, we might see a release day one or even just a few weeks/months after.

I've heard from various sources that the devs expect VI PC release to happen after citing more time needed.

 

A year ago, I would've been as optimistic as you in regards to a day one release. But hopefully, it's a delay of a few months.

Edited October 24, 2023 by Tez2

[Xerukal]

At this point, waiting a few years for PC ports of sequels to some of my fav games is something I'm growing increasingly used to, as sh*tty as it is. Played GOW 2018 on PC for the first time last year, and I'll likely have to keep dodging spoilers while waiting for Ragnarok until at least 2024 or 2025. Same with Insomniac's Spidey 2 right now. 

 

The only thing that's going to be insufferable is not being able to escape exposure once VI launches on console. So I hope "a few months" is really all we have to endure. Or it's back to playing the game through YouTube like it's 2013! 

[Krotchys Will]

2 hours ago, Tez2 said:

I've heard from various sources that the devs expect VI PC release to happen after citing more time needed.

 

A year ago, I would've been as optimistic as you in regards to a day one release. But hopefully, it's a delay of a few months.

Did they tell about the exact time frame for the release? Holiday 2024 or so?

[GraphiX]

2 hours ago, Tez2 said:

I've heard from various sources that the devs expect VI PC release to happen after citing more time needed.

 

A year ago, I would've been as optimistic as you in regards to a day one release. But hopefully, it's a delay of a few months.

Could you share the resource with us? 

[GraphiX]

6 minutes ago, Krotchys Will said:

Did they tell about the exact time frame for the release? Holiday 2024 or so?

Are there anyone really optimistic about Day-1 Release? If there had been a delay of just a few months, I would have said thank God for that.

[MarioIsANerd]

32 minutes ago, Krotchys Will said:

Did they tell about the exact time frame for the release? Holiday 2024 or so?

Nothing to comment about but the Krotchy PFP
POSTAL2 FIRE

[Toxicmaggot]

I'll give you the specifications of my PC. Can you tell me if you think (hypothetically) it can run GTA 6 for me?
Processor: Ryzen 7 5800x3D
GPU: RTX 2060 (but I plan to get a 3060 12GB or a 4070 12GB)
RAM: 16GB
Power supply: 650W

Many thanks in advance!  

[Shahar654]

2 minutes ago, Shahar654 said:

It literally looks like a finished ubisoft game.

The only thing this game really lacks in the leaks are some shaders to make it look good and not like a camera with ISO 6400.

I think at this point they're deep into debugging the game.

Also, to me, they won't release it to PC until months after, as they don't wanna end up like the last of us and jedi survivor.

1 minute ago, CommanderBlack said:

i think for the safety of all employees of not dying from cringe while there study about it will the parody version of tiktok be banned in Vice City 

Weazel news: Lawmakers ban Chinese social media, saying it was a Spyware. Opposers say that people will illegally download it, and with cost

We're here with one opposer which stated "I need to f*cking pay money to laugh?"

[PredatorFTW]

12 minutes ago, Shahar654 said:

Also, to me, they won't release it to PC until months after, as they don't wanna end up like the last of us and jedi survivor.

Possibly, but I also think Rockstar has the budget to have an entire team solely working on the PC version and optimizing it. And it's a whole lot of extra shark card sales they can get if they include the PC version on launch.

[chylhn]

1 minute ago, PredatorFTW said:

Possibly, but I also think Rockstar has the budget to have an entire team solely working on the PC version and optimizing it. And it's a whole lot of extra shark card sales they can get if they include the PC version on launch.

More like whole lot of mod menus

[Shahar654]

2 minutes ago, PredatorFTW said:

Possibly, but I also think Rockstar has the budget to have an entire team solely working on the PC version and optimizing it. And it's a whole lot of extra shark card sales they can get if they include the PC version on launch.

Oh and tez2 basically said that as well, the developers are having trouble with the PC so they will add time to that afterwards, with hopefully  just a few months apart.

[chylhn]

2 minutes ago, Shahar654 said:

Oh and tez2 basically said that as well, the developers are having trouble with the PC so they will add time to that afterwards, with hopefully  just a few months apart.

Do you have a source of the devs saying theyre having difficulties with the pc version?

[Shahar654]

1 minute ago, chylhn said:

Do you have a source of the devs saying theyre having difficulties with the PC version?

https://gtaforums.com/topic/986445-gta-vi-pc-discussion-requirements/?do=findComment&comment=1072240695

[cant remember]

Anyone knows the exact reasoning why PC is always released late ?

 

- In 2D era it was on PC first and ported to consoles later (who were technically less powerful than PC's so they had worse graphics and things removed)

 

- In 3D era, Sony paid for an exclusivity deal, I think it was 6 months

 

- But what about the HD era? They came on both Xbox/Sony at the same time, and then on PC much later (even later than the exclusivity deal from before).

[chylhn]

1 minute ago, cant remember said:

Anyone knows the exact reasoning why PC is always released late ?

 

- In 2D era it was on PC first and ported to consoles later (who were technically less powerful than PC's so they had worse graphics and things removed)

 

- In 3D era, Sony paid for an exclusivity deal, I think it was 6 months

 

- But what about the HD era? They came on both Xbox/Sony at the same time, and then on PC much later (even later than the exclusivity deal from before).

Not every pc is the same whereas every ps5 is the same. Optimization work for a wide range of pcs is more time consuming and difficult.

[Shahar654]

6 minutes ago, cant remember said:

Anyone knows the exact reasoning why PC is always released late ?

 

- In 2D era it was on PC first and ported to consoles later (who were technically less powerful than PC's so they had worse graphics and things removed)

 

- In 3D era, Sony paid for an exclusivity deal, I think it was 6 months

 

- But what about the HD era? They came on both Xbox/Sony at the same time, and then on PC much later (even later than the exclusivity deal from before).

In GTA 4 it was just so complicated. Even now it's a sh*tty port.

In GTA V they perfected the port so much, it's very rare to see frame drops.

In RDR2 the launch was awful due to connectivity issues and audio pops, as well as making sure the online feature works.

[cant remember]

1 minute ago, chylhn said:

Not every pc is the same whereas every ps5 is the same. Optimization work for a wide range of pcs is more time consuming and difficult.

Yeah but I feel that still doesn't account for the huge delay, more than a year (I think even a year and a half for GTA5), most other AAA titles have near simultaneous PC/console releases.

[TheBrownDot]

10 minutes ago, Shahar654 said:

In GTA 4 it was just so complicated. Even now it's a sh*tty port.

In GTA V they perfected the port so much, it's very rare to see frame drops.

In RDR2 the launch was awful due to connectivity issues and audio pops, as well as making sure the online feature works.

when i first played GTA 5 my pc handled GTA 5 better than it did GTA 4, one of few reasons why i don't like GTA 4 as much as other GTAs

[Gdog]

38 minutes ago, PredatorFTW said:

Possibly, but I also think Rockstar has the budget to have an entire team solely working on the PC version and optimizing it. And it's a whole lot of extra shark card sales they can get if they include the PC version on launch.

Of course Rockstar can put together a good PC port. Nobody is arguing against that. It just won't be released same time as consoles. They will want to milk this game for all it's worth so they'll make PC gamers wait in the hope that they are tempted to buy it on console and then buy it again when the PC version comes out. I'm ashamed of myself but that's what I'll be doing. I will buy a PS5 to play it and then I'll buy it again when it comes to PC.

 

Why do you think they released the game on PS3/360, PS4/One, PC, and PS5/XSX? If you were running a business would you rather make $70 per person or anywhere up to $280? If Rockstar can convince people to double dip then it's $140. Across 3 gens then it's $210. It's in Rockstar's best interest to release GTA VI close to the end of this generation so they can sell the same game again on PS6. Look at PC for V... that didn't even come out until 2015 after the PS4/XB1 versions. It's easy money.

Edited October 25, 2023 by Gdog

[dirtycamper]

1 minute ago, Gdog said:

Of course Rockstar can put together a good PC port. Nobody is arguing against that. It just won't be released same time as consoles. They will want to milk this game for all it's worth so they'll make PC gamers wait in the hope that they are tempted to buy it on console and then buy it again when the PC version comes out.

 

I'm ashamed of myself but that's what I'll be doing. I will buy a PS5 to play it and then I'll buy it again when it comes to PC. Why do you think they released the game on PS3/360, PS4/One, PC, and PS5/XSX?

 

If you were running a business would you rather make $70 per person or anywhere up to $280? If Rockstar can convince people to double dip then it's $140. Across 3 gens then it's $210.

 

It's in Rockstar's best interest to release GTA VI close to the end of this generation so they can sell the same game again on PS6. Look at PC for V... that didn't even come out until 2015 after the PS4/XB1 versions. It's easy money.

 

yep and add to that the promotion on GPU's specifically high end GPU's depending on timing Nvidia always showcase games on new end GPU's, 60fps on GTA 6 4k on this £1000 gpu $$$ and get GTA 6 included.

[PredatorFTW]

2 minutes ago, Gdog said:

Of course Rockstar can put together a good PC port. Nobody is arguing against that. It just won't be released same time as consoles. They will want to milk this game for all it's worth so they'll make PC gamers wait in the hope that they are tempted to buy it on console and then buy it again when the PC version comes out.

 

I'm ashamed of myself but that's what I'll be doing. I will buy a PS5 to play it and then I'll buy it again when it comes to PC. Why do you think they released the game on PS3/360, PS4/One, PC, and PS5/XSX?

 

If you were running a business would you rather make $70 per person or anywhere up to $280? If Rockstar can convince people to double dip then it's $140. Across 3 gens then it's $210.

 

It's in Rockstar's best interest to release GTA VI close to the end of this generation so they can sell the same game again on PS6. Look at PC for V... that didn't even come out until 2015 after the PS4/XB1 versions. It's easy money.

I agree and will also be one of those people that buys a PS5 to play it on launch day. This is the only game I'm willing to do that for. But I'm wondering if the people double dipping outweighs the shark card sales they miss out on.

Appearantly, they make $800 million dollars a year with shark card sales. The question then still is, what percentage of that are PC players, and is that amount of money more then game sales for people who double dip. 

You and I, and probably numerous others in this thread are willing to buy the game twice, but we are obviously big fans of this game. The average kid who plays GTA might not be able to do that.  

[MarioIsANerd]

9 hours ago, Toxicmaggot said:

I'll give you the specifications of my PC. Can you tell me if you think (hypothetically) it can run GTA 6 for me?
Processor: Ryzen 7 5800x3D
GPU: RTX 2060 (but I plan to get a 3060 12GB or a 4070 12GB)
RAM: 16GB
Power supply: 650W

Many thanks in advance!  

If u upgrade to the 4070 it will most likely will run it, but we really cant know yet

Edited October 25, 2023 by MarioIsANerd
grammar issue

[Ser_Salty]

11 hours ago, Toxicmaggot said:

I'll give you the specifications of my PC. Can you tell me if you think (hypothetically) it can run GTA 6 for me?
Processor: Ryzen 7 5800x3D
GPU: RTX 2060 (but I plan to get a 3060 12GB or a 4070 12GB)
RAM: 16GB
Power supply: 650W

Many thanks in advance!  

Probably, at least at like medium-low settings. GTA V was very scalable towards the low end, RDR2 as well. Also depends on your resolution.

[Fetooh]

Too early to talk about PC requirements because probably it won't be released day one , my guess it will be like modern current gen titles , if there is game to give example is cyberpunk 2077

[MaArem]

I can guarantee you that a lot of people are going to buy a console only for that game, but it will really piss me off if it doesn't come on PC day 1

7 hours ago, PredatorFTW said:

I agree and will also be one of those people that buys a PS5 to play it on launch day. This is the only game I'm willing to do that for. But I'm wondering if the people double dipping outweighs the shark card sales they miss out on.

Appearantly, they make $800 million dollars a year with shark card sales. The question then still is, what percentage of that are PC players, and is that amount of money more then game sales for people who double dip. 

You and I, and probably numerous others in this thread are willing to buy the game twice, but we are obviously big fans of this game. The average kid who plays GTA might not be able to do that.  

I can guarantee you that a lot of people are going to buy a console only for that game, but it will really piss me off if it doesn't come on PC day 1

[MaArem]

3 hours ago, Ser_Salty said:

Probably, at least at like medium-low settings. GTA V was very scalable towards the low end, RDR2 as well. Also depends on your resolution.

I think with that specification, you can at least play medium but it will be a choice between graphics and performance.