cant remember Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 I'm having my first playthrough of RDR2 and boy is this game hard. I get through GTA games and most shooters like Far Cry usually no problem but here... everytime I try to gallop to a waypoint I get killed without fail on the way in a holdup. During most missions I also die and reload half a dozen times before I pass it. Is the game meant to be difficult like this or am I doing something fundamentally wrong? I haven't really found a good tactic to deal with gunfights, i try to get off the horse (because aiming and shooting while riding is impossible) but by the time I get a couple shots in them I'm done for myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeless6 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, cant remember said: I haven't really found a good tactic to deal with gunfights Have you done the chapter 2 mission called Old Friends? If not do it, and things will get easier. Trying not to spoil too much. Oh wait, that's chapter 1 wasn't it? Surely you have this by now Spoiler Dead Eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant remember Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share Posted October 8, 2022 I have it but I never have the reflex to use it, i guess I should try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeless6 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) Yeah you should. Early on the duration is low and can run out quickly in extended fights. So stock up on snake oil, tobacco products (grab all you see) and pick Indian Tobacco plants when you come across them. I found so many chewing tobaccos in free roam that I never needed to use anything else during a fight. But these don't refill your core. For that, sleep, eat and my favorite, thyme, which can be used for cooking and thyme prime beef and big game will give you a gold core. Some alcohol works too, just read the descriptions. Using this ability, and well, will make these gunfights a snap. Edited October 9, 2022 by smokeless6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subvod Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Gunfights without deadeye are wicked. Like smokeless mentioned, stock up on Snake Oil or Chewing Tobacco, and pick every Indian Tobacco plant you run across as you can cook it into Potent Snake Oil. Most NPCs have a chance to drop (loot) Opened Chewing Tobacco, too. You can find two shotguns out in the world (or swap them from an NPC), but later on in Chapter 2 you'll get a shotgun. Shottys make deadeye-less gun battles a lot easier. If you're on PC, there are mods that help with gameplay and QoL. Here's some for loot specifically: https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/1457 https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/1596 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I keep autoaim on while on horseback, I find it's just too hard to target without it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemoyne outlaw Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 the game is pretty easy. but maybe that's easy for me to say since I'm a rockstar veteran. i would say it's easier than gta. because at least your enemies don't have automatic weapons that can melt you quick. and enemies that use aimbot. i recommend stocking up on health cures. you can buy them at the doctor's offices. get the potent health cures the most. because they give you extra health than regular health cures. but general stores carry regular health cures so if you're in a town without a doctor and need health tonics you can get them. the health cures are basically like body armor from the gta games. i also recommend you raising your health bar up. you can do that by fishing or fist fighting. and you can collect ginseng elixir at certain locations. the ones i know about off hand are the destroyed wagon on the trail to emerald ranch. take the trail towards emerald ranch from valentine. after you get over the hill you will see a worn out destroyed wagon. there will be a chest underneath it. open it and get the elixer. when you drink it it will give you health xp. which levels your health bar up quick. and there is also another ginseng elixir at carmody dell. you can take it when you do the spines of america mission with hosea. it's in the upstairs room in the cabinet. here is a list of all the locations to them. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiB2_qIjNL6AhUelIkEHSokAQ4QFnoECA0QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Freddead.fandom.com%2Fwiki%2FGinseng_Elixir&usg=AOvVaw3cKRd4QtpcagUY3qp-1Ale as for gunfight advice i recommend you try to stay in cover a lot. use dead eye and go for headshots. you should go into a random town and start a shootout. and just get the hang of the mechanics. see how long you can survive against the law. then when you die reload your previous save so you don't lose money or ammo. you should also buy dynamite. it's very useful when you see a bunch of enemies bunched up together. it works just like a grenade in gta. you can buy it at the fence for a dollar per stick. so you get plenty of bang for your buck. you should also loot your enemies bodies. they can give health cures and other useful items for free. your health bar always starts out small in the beginning of the game. but by the time you get to chapter 3 it usually gets bigger and you can take more hits. what chapter are you on now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_1983 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Relatively easy. Unlike GTA games, it doesn't have a mission that took me ages to pass. If you want to get the hang of shooting, go to Van Horn and start something. You'll get enough shooting practice without worrying about the law. Edited October 9, 2022 by Dan_1983 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward RDRIII Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 9:58 PM, Cutter De Blanc said: I keep autoaim on while on horseback, I find it's just too hard to target without it It's easy if you use two Double-Action Revolvers or M1899 Pistols, otherwise you can always use the Pump-Action Shotgun (the Semi-Automatic Shotgun is too weak for my liking). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonVegaSuarez Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I have never died in a mission or clearing a gang hideout in story mode. Most of my deaths are falling down a cliff or getting mauled by cougars. Game is piss easy. Even turned off auto aim on the feet, makes hunting more of a challenge as well. On horseback I leave it on because it's too much of a hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subvod Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 22 hours ago, LeonVegaSuarez said: I have never died in a mission or clearing a gang hideout in story mode. Most of my deaths are falling down a cliff or getting mauled by cougars. Game is piss easy. Even turned off auto aim on the feet, makes hunting more of a challenge as well. On horseback I leave it on because it's too much of a hassle. I also turned off aim assist except for horseback for the same reason. Aiming on horseback is so jumpy while moving, even with low aim sensitivity. Maybe others like free aim on horseback, but damn I cannot get it down for the life of me. Free aim on foot is my preference, though. Like you said, primarily for hunting. Since I more or less just play post-story now, all I can really do is hunt. Knowing so many spawns by memory makes hunting with aim assist stupid easy. Free aim adds that extra difficulty I'm looking for to squeeze every last bit of enjoyment I can out of this game. I don't want to see the day I stop liking RDR2, but it's bound to come and gonna be a sad one when it comes. When I first started, I died quite a few times in my first playthrough. But, after getting 100% legitimately on my second, I learned the mission setups quickly. On the third run (also to 100% legitimately) I knew essentially every mission setup and objective. Currently on my fifth runthrough sitting at 99.8%, but only because I've been collecting all them missable stuff and what not for my savegame on Nexus. After now two years of playing for probably over 4,000 hours, story mode is a breeze. Take in the story details on the first run, and appreciate it for the movie that it is. You'll learn as you go, just like all (or at least most) of us do with many other games. Using deadeye is the key, especially during gunfights. There are mods that disable the camera shake, but finding or buying the Special Snake Oil Recipie makes running out of deadeye almost impossible. Only needs 2x Indian Tobacco and 2x Currant or Prairie Poppy. You get a lot of recipe pamphlets right as you go into Chapter 2, Potent Snake Oil being one of them. It only needs 1x Indian Tobacco to craft, and is almost as good as Special Snake Oil. Super cheap alternative and easy to acquire. Also, having high honor adds a better chance to loot Potent tonics from enemy NPCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeless6 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I play on PC and all free-aim. Are you guys on controllers? Shooting free-aim on horseback is fine with a mouse and judicious application of dead eye. But if I had to use a controller to aim I'd have it on autonomous, beyond assisted haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch VDL Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 I'm somewhere in the middle of the Saint Denis chapter right now and I'm not finding it too hard. I've not even needed to skip a portion of a mission yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant remember Posted October 16, 2022 Author Share Posted October 16, 2022 I'm finally getting the hang of it, making much more use of deadeye, cover, and making sure I have the repeater with me if I walk away from my horse. The game's so immersive it's almost unbelievable, even browsing through a physical paper catalog etc. I'm really hoping they will bring some of the direction of RDR2 into GTA6 Nutduster, Jisoo and smokeless6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfairlane Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 10:27 PM, cant remember said: I have it but I never have the reflex to use it, i guess I should try it Even if the game is built around it I`ve (close to) never used it. Kills the realism due to me, I`m fast irl and won`t "cheat" to win Jutland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiejoearmstrong8 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 11/2/2022 at 11:40 AM, unfairlane said: Even if the game is built around it I`ve (close to) never used it. Kills the realism due to me, I`m fast irl and won`t "cheat" to win I think it's rooted in realism in that it's supposed to represent an expert gunslinger's ability to very quickly mentally plan where to shoot and then do so precisely. That's good enough for me and it makes gunfights totally different to in other games so it's worth it for the unique playing experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jutland Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 On 11/2/2022 at 11:40 AM, unfairlane said: Even if the game is built around it I`ve (close to) never used it. Kills the realism due to me, I`m fast irl and won`t "cheat" to win Me too, I find Dead Eye to be immersion-breaking, as well as being a bit of a faff. most times the game gives you ample warning that there are bounty hunters or lawmen or a gang camp up ahead. I usually just find a nice rock or something to use as cover then pick as many guys off with a carbine as I can unfairlane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM THE JUICE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 It is pretty easy. Just make sure your guns are clean and you food and dead eye meters are all full and guns fights should be a breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward RDRIII Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 12:02 PM, LeonVegaSuarez said: I have never died in a mission or clearing a gang hideout in story mode. Most of my deaths are falling down a cliff or getting mauled by cougars. Game is piss easy. Even turned off auto aim on the feet, makes hunting more of a challenge as well. On horseback I leave it on because it's too much of a hassle. I'm getting the hand of shooting from horseback using free aim without Dead Eye or any sort of assistance, but I still use Dead Eye sometimes of course, it's so satisfying when I manage to kill someone without using a shotgun, I even managed to get some kills with the Carcano Rifle. Here's my tip for free aim players on XB1 and PS4, put the Look Sensitivity, Aim Sensitivity and Aim/Look Acceleration on maximum, then put the Aim/Look Dead Zone on minimum, you may find moving the camera and aiming too fast and slippery at first, but when you get the hand of it you'll see it's the best way to play this game, trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbatron Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 8:58 PM, cant remember said: I'm having my first playthrough of RDR2 and boy is this game hard. I get through GTA games and most shooters like Far Cry usually no problem but here... everytime I try to gallop to a waypoint I get killed without fail on the way in a holdup. During most missions I also die and reload half a dozen times before I pass it. Is the game meant to be difficult like this or am I doing something fundamentally wrong? I haven't really found a good tactic to deal with gunfights, i try to get off the horse (because aiming and shooting while riding is impossible) but by the time I get a couple shots in them I'm done for myself. Combat in RDR2 is a lot more manageable once you get used using Dead Eye. Always keep your metre topped up on your travels incase you run into an ambush, and don’t be afraid to spam snake oil in the missions with lots of action. Practice with Dead Eye alone will make every shooting task feel manageable, whether it’s versus other human opponents or hunting. As for getting 100%, yes it is way more involved than say GTA V because there is tons more stuff to actually achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScrimpyMenke Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Clearly you’ve never play any of the 3D era GTA games if you think RDR2 is harder, and even those games for the most part were piss easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
