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whenever someone mentions the possibility of gta 6 having more cities alongside Vice City, tampa/Orlando is brought up almost every time. But honestly those cities seem really bland to me. They have a similar vibe to Miami, the architecture etc (aside from a couple of buildings and the theme parks) all seems rather generic to me. If rockstar puts them in the game, it would absolutely be a waste of resource imo.

 

If the game were to have multiple cities, Atlanta, new Orleans, Charleston would definitely be wayyyy better choices.

 

Can anyone explain to me why people want those cities?

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I can't speak for other people but me I would enjoy to have a city that's not a big world known Hollywood set for once. Movies (and GTA) have this trope (I know im exagerating a bit here) that every apartment in America looks out on the statue of liberty, Miami beach, LA skyline, or whatever and things like Paletto Bay give me a bit of a break from that.

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Eternal Moonshine

At least it would be a second city. I'm sure that Rockstar can bring out the best parts of Orlando and make it appealing. Although i would prefer Atlanta or maybe New Orleans 

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23 minutes ago, FleshEatingButterfly said:

If the game were to have multiple cities, Atlanta, new Orleans, Charleston would definitely be wayyyy better choices.

 

Can anyone explain to me why people want those cities?

 

It's probably more about that it's still in Florida and if R* aims for more realism then that seems to be the "logical" choice.

 

I indeed agree with you on the other cities being more interesting, especially New Orleans. We might already have Saint Denis from RDR2 which is obviously modeled after it but a larger, modern day version of it would be great with the still old architecture they have. It's rather unique in the United States in that regard, no?

 

V was set in a reimagined southern California while VI can be in a reimagined southern Florida plus nearby Louisiana with that city and the swamps.

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They need to just have Orlando's version of International drive and Daytona Beaches International Speedway(Nascar/Beach). (Main tourist areas)

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Its a valid question. I'd say that, if GTA is about GTA parody, then Disney is a huge parody that they haven't been able to do yet. As someone said on another thread, who doesn't want to mow down the man in the Goofy outfit?! 😆

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I hate Goofy so I will take much pleasure in that. Bring on the rampage with Disneyworld "cast members" going at you in character.

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Also Steamboat Wiley is public domain next year so they can parody a Mickey lookalike all they want. The timing couldn’t of been better, up for them to take advantage of it. Fun World

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I'd welcome a change of scenery after a while. 2 maps for traveling back and forth would be VERY cool. not just for a chapter as seen in RDR2 with guarma. more like mexico in RDR where you can just just cross the border at any time. and roam on a 2nd, detailed map with properties to own and activities to pursue.

 

just looked at miami and its surroundings, I guess R* could also include parts of key largo - an island instead of a 2nd city

 

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Midnight Dutch

Outside Florida, New Orleans and Atlanta are the closest big cities to Miami.  I could see Atlanta being featured but not necessarily New Orleans.

 

No game has ever really done New Orleans justice by capturing the landscape and culture accurately and honestly I can’t see that much effort going into New Orleans.  New Orleans is a very unique city and it would take just as much effort to recreate decently as Miami if not more,  seems like it wouldn’t be in R*’s MO to do a non-conventional GTA city with just as much if not more effort needed than a classic like Vice City.

 

All in all I think another city in Florida like Tampa, Orlando or Jacksonville would be a better fit honestly.

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3 hours ago, FleshEatingButterfly said:

whenever someone mentions the possibility of gta 6 having more cities alongside Vice City, tampa/Orlando is brought up almost every time. But honestly those cities seem really bland to me. They have a similar vibe to Miami, the architecture etc (aside from a couple of buildings and the theme parks) all seems rather generic to me. If rockstar puts them in the game, it would absolutely be a waste of resource imo.

 

If the game were to have multiple cities, Atlanta, new Orleans, Charleston would definitely be wayyyy better choices.

 

Can anyone explain to me why people want those cities?

 

Bro what.. I get Atl/Nola but why Charleston. Way more boring compared to anything in Central Florida. It's more of a chill historical town for old people like Savannah or St. Augustine.

 

But to answer your question, my only argument for Tampa/Orlando/Daytona would be why the hell not. In GTA V we got Paleto Bay and other coastal towns that didn't have much, but it was cool to visit them and added to the exploration. Tampa/Clearwater could have a Kifflom connection (similar to Scientology), Orlando would utilize Disney World, and Daytona has the Speedway/Rednecks/NASA further south. Now do I think they'll all be included, no, but I'm hoping for at least one of these cities to help flesh out the Map. To only have South Beach and surrounding wetlands would be disappointing imo.

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2 hours ago, Midnight Dutch said:

 

No game has ever really done New Orleans justice by capturing the landscape and culture accurately and honestly I can’t see that much effort going into New Orleans. 

I feel like RDR2 and mafia 3 did New Orleans Justice in their respective time periods, but yeah doing anything in the last 30 years would be difficult.


 

on another note those, as far as the 3D universe goes, Cottonmouth was a south eastern city based on Tampa, Atlanta, New Orleans AND Charleston iirc. It would be the most logical second city in the HD incarnation of vice city and surrounding areas.

https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Cottonmouth

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Miami, Atlanta, and a beautiful and growing smaller city like Greenville, SC! Then the border can be the mountains to the north of Greenville in North Carolina! Would allow for plenty of different types of terrains and bodies of water too (beaches, swamplands, lakes, ponds, rivers, and mountains) since Miami’s highest elevation is literally a hill. It’d also give us different types of architecture for Miami, Atlanta, and Greenville. And tons of subject matter for humor. That’d be my dream GTA setting.

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1 hour ago, REVENGE777 said:

I feel like RDR2 and mafia 3 did New Orleans Justice in their respective time periods, but yeah doing anything in the last 30 years would be difficult.


 

on another note those, as far as the 3D universe goes, Cottonmouth was a south eastern city based on Tampa, Atlanta, New Orleans AND Charleston iirc. It would be the most logical second city in the HD incarnation of vice city and surrounding areas.

https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Cottonmouth

Respectfully, I totally disagree with the statement of Mafia III doing New Orleans justice, even for it’s time period.  RDR2, was OK.. but New Orleanian culture as we know it didn’t really start to thrive until at least the 1920’s I would say.. 

 

Never played the Manhunt series but Cottonmouth sounds interesting if indeed that is the case, *but* I feel those “fusion” cities often end up lacking character.  Like a mish mash of cultures together that ends up not being able to find an identity.  (To play devil’s advocate, one could argue that real life New Orleans is a mish mash of many cultures in one, including French, Spanish, Native American and even Haitian.. but that is part of New Orleans real life identity, therefore it makes sense in that regard.)

 

In my opinion, the best results stem from when they model a city after a real life city and it’s culture and lore, and call it exactly that.

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11 hours ago, FleshEatingButterfly said:

whenever someone mentions the possibility of gta 6 having more cities alongside Vice City, tampa/Orlando is brought up almost every time. But honestly those cities seem really bland to me. They have a similar vibe to Miami, the architecture etc (aside from a couple of buildings and the theme parks) all seems rather generic to me. If rockstar puts them in the game, it would absolutely be a waste of resource imo.

 

 

You are 100% correct.  We don't need another similar city on flat land. I'd like something like a Caribbean or South American city with a completely different feel.

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Shyabang Shyabang
On 9/29/2022 at 7:55 PM, FleshEatingButterfly said:

whenever someone mentions the possibility of gta 6 having more cities alongside Vice City, tampa/Orlando is brought up almost every time. But honestly those cities seem really bland to me. They have a similar vibe to Miami, the architecture etc (aside from a couple of buildings and the theme parks) all seems rather generic to me. If rockstar puts them in the game, it would absolutely be a waste of resource imo.

I just learned that Scientology's Flag Land Base is located near Tampa. It would make an interesting story to have GTA's version of this to be part of it.

 

19:00

"Clearwater is the biggest single source of income for Scientology in the world."

"That makes Clearwater, Florida the Scientology tax-free capital of the world. As Australian and former Scientologist Mike Rinder points out, the biggest and best buildings here belong to the church worth almost half a billion dollars."

 

And here's a recent interview on the former Scientologist Mike Rinder:

 

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They could add Disney World/Universal Orlando theme park mix into Vice City along with some other Orlando buildings and landmarks.

 

They can make Tampa/Clearwater/St Petersburg into a town the size of like 3 (maybe 4) Paleto Bays, it can have the feeling of Chumash and is North of Port Gelhorn which is more of a true small town.

 

They can have another big city based off Jacksonville, Tallahassee, sorta any city from northern Florida. So it would be a map of two cities, Vice City and Jacksonhassee. And the smaller towns of (from the leaks and my ideas) Port Gelhorn, The Keys, Yorktown, Ambrosia, Small town version of Tampa/other West Coast South Florida Cities, and perhaps a panhandle town and a town representing the city of St Augustine the oldest Euro city in America. They can have some tiny Stab City size settlements like trailer parks.

 

Although my idea is definitely smaller than 4 cities or something it's still huge, most likely it's just going to be Vice City and small towns in South Florida, they could add North Florida in map expansions, along with other places.

 

 

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BigBoyBertram

Honestly it all pretty much just boils down to people wanting s legitimate second urban area or city. Plus it Tampa/Orlando has a different vibe than Miami.

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The theme parks alone sound cool and it would be nice to have more than one city (and more towns than GTA V had, it only had Sandy Shores and Paleto Bay didn't it? Plus Grapeseed but that was like one street and a bunch of fields). I don't see it going as far afield as Atlanta, I imagine that it'll be Miami/Vice City and the surrounding area, so South Florida basically.

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The appeal is that y’all can come to my house and say hello

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On 10/12/2022 at 2:37 PM, Shyabang Shyabang said:

I just learned that Scientology's Flag Land Base is located near Tampa. It would make an interesting story to have GTA's version of this to be part of it.

I'm remembering the viral marketing with Kifflom. Good times 

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TheVardinator

I'd probably prefer a dull second city or some larger downs with some life in them to the wasteland above the main city we got in GTA5. I mean most of the map outside of the city in GTA5 was pretty pointless and unused. Sandy Shores and Paleto Bay etc were pretty much dead, barely anybody ever goes up there Online either.

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It will make the wait all that more worth it.

And make the game so much more utilizing every part of the map not just the main city.

I hope that we get 2 main cities and 2 smaller cities(large towns).

 

North Vice State: Orlando

West Vice State: Cape Coral area (Port Gellhorn?)

St Petersburg & Tampa (Yorktown?)

East Vice State: Miami

South Vice State: Florida Keys + Everglades

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2 hours ago, DarkDayz said:

They can't do Orlando without Disney, they can't do Disney without getting SUED.


I mean ofc they’re gonna make their own Disney parody tho 

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In what way Is Orlando comparable to Miami? and either Way Orlando has its own architecture and atmosphere and points of interests so yea I would say they could add it on there.

Why would anyone want Savannah? you know what I'm done with this thread?

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