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Maybe one of Dimitri's henchmen let it slip to one of Roman's cab associates that Dimitri is moving a lot of product in the Platypus and word got to Roman. 

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8 hours ago, AkshayKumar said:

Maybe one of Dimitri's henchmen let it slip to one of Roman's cab associates that Dimitri is moving a lot of product in the Platypus and word got to Roman. 

Looks like word on the street does spread around quickly in GTA IV.

6 hours ago, Homicidal Hipster said:

The power of plot convenience. Seriously I just did that part and it's pretty silly how Roman knows. Peg should of been the one to tell him. 

Fun fact in the beta Jimmy was a lot more acquainted with Roman. There's a few unused phonecalls where he talks to Niko about "making him a made man" and that he shouldn't worry about his cousin as he's always gonna be looking after him and his debts. Just came into my mind... I typed this out after thinking twice. You meant the Peg should've told NIKO, not ROMAN, right? lmfao, but yeah point still stands.

billiejoearmstrong8

Roman does know a few criminals and most of them are in Broker (eg Jacob and Badman, the guy you picked up in the taxi that time etc). Could've heard it through one of them. Or maybe he went for a drink in Comrades for old time's sake and overheard something.

Honestly, it's a plot hole in my book.

However if you wanna stretch it, Dimitri's organization was falling apart which is why he even wanted to make a deal with Jimmy in the first place. So naturally, information started to leak especially after the blackmail and asassination attempts. Both U.L Papers and Jimmy alludes to this, that it is a dying game, everyone is being hunted down.

When the scenarists decided Roman would know

 

However for a more immersion-friendly explanation, like @Ryo256 said, information could have leaked.

 

I stole your answer @Evil empire

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Honestly I always found it a bit silly how Roman suddenly knows where Dimitri is right when Niko has to make an important decision, it's just too convenient in my opinion. The same thing happens in TBoGT when Tony suddenly knows where Bulgarin's operation is right at the final mission.

 

It would've been more interesting I think if Jimmy let it slip accidentally during the previous cutscene, perhaps by mentioning the Platypus and Niko connecting the dots, something to that effect.

It could've worked too, Niko wouldn't be 100% sure that Dimitri would be on the ship, making revenge a riskier choice for the player. By choosing revenge, you would fight your way on the ship without knowing for certain that Dimitri is there until the very end where he finally reveals himself.

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I really don’t see what’s so silly about it.
 

When you listen to the phone call with Roman he says something to the extent of “I heard he’s on the boat in East Hook right?” in a rhetoric way rather than giving Niko explicit instructions where to find him and in doing so sparking Niko’s curiosity. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Cluckin Bell CEO
20 minutes ago, Algonquin Assassin said:

I really don’t see what’s so silly about it.
 

When you listen to the phone call with Roman he says something to the extent of “I heard he’s on the boat in East Hook right?” in a rhetoric way rather than giving Niko explicit instructions where to find him and in doing so sparking Niko’s curiosity. Nothing more, nothing less.

And where would he hear about that?

10 hours ago, The Artist said:

And where would he hear about that?


Whoever/whatever the writers decided. Roman’s a Chad after all.

 

But in all seriousness as some people have said he probably heard it on the wire aka contacts, media etc.

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TheInquisitor
On 9/28/2022 at 1:37 PM, Jeansowaty said:

Fun fact in the beta Jimmy was a lot more acquainted with Roman. There's a few unused phonecalls where he talks to Niko about "making him a made man" and that he shouldn't worry about his cousin as he's always gonna be looking after him and his debts. Just came into my mind... I typed this out after thinking twice. You meant the Peg should've told NIKO, not ROMAN, right? lmfao, but yeah point still stands.

that's interesting, GTA IV could have had a much better ending (I never completed it, stopped before Pest Control since I knew both endings were bad), Mafia II is another example of bad ending.

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universetwisters

I have always thought that Little Jacob told him that to be careful and not be near that ship for his safety and then he told Niko at the end of the game or Dmitri told Roman to trick Niko to come after him to kill Niko with all of his hired guns that was on the ship.

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universetwisters
20 hours ago, wise_man said:

Maybe it is revealed to him in a dream.

 

Imagine he got it wrong and Niko wound up massacring a bunch of sailors for no good reason :starekek:

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