Mapping Vice City / Map Discussion Thread (NO LEAK FOOTAGE ALLOWED)

[ThisGoesToEleven]

30 minutes ago, Pixelclone said:

That's really cool and well done. Nice work. Is there any relevance to the colours of each blip? Is there a thread or somewhere where we can see people piecing together a map?

Thanks. No relevance to the colours. I wrote some code to generate the map, so the colour is chosen semi-randomly but with the aim to be different to other blips nearby otherwise they'd be impossible to distinguish.

 

I believe this is supposed to be that thread! There was another map thread going well last night but it was nuked because of reasons. I assume the posters from there are working away in private or on some other platform. Hard thing to do without sharing screenshots.

[Tomeu Penya]

1 hour ago, GhettoJesus said:

Not to my knowledge. Still speculating that is the Gellhorn one. But if I recall correctly it had a strange curve. Now as far as I know every single NASCAR track is an oval so that strange curve makes no sense. But it's interesting, I think this is the first time we are getting an open air race track.

 

The irl Homestead track has a few bends inside the oval a bit like Indianapolis did for F1 a few years ago, they're both ovals and road courses.

 

Again, R* has no need to recreate truthfully the map or any assets (except maybe the new Camaro ) so if they feel like blending Homestead and Sedona raceway from Forza they can.

[GhettoJesus]

1 minute ago, Tomeu Penya said:

 

The irl Homestead track has a few bends inside the oval a bit like Indianapolis did for F1 a few years ago, they're both ovals and road courses.

 

Again, R* has no need to recreate truthfully the map or any assets (except maybe the new Camaro ) so if they feel like blending Homestead and Sedona raceway from Forza they can.

Yeah makes sense, makes sense. I am too grounded in reality when it comes to stuff like this tbf

[HighertowerGreaterfall]

Everglades seems like a nice chance for Rockstar to include another Mount Chiliad - Takes up 70% of the map, has absolutely nothing in it, and is a pain in the ass to navigate through.

[Pixelclone]

3 minutes ago, ThisGoesToEleven said:

Thanks. No relevance to the colours. I wrote some code to generate the map, so the colour is chosen semi-randomly but with the aim to be different to other blips nearby otherwise they'd be impossible to distinguish.

 

I believe this is supposed to be that thread! There was another map thread going well last night but it was nuked because of reasons. I assume the posters from there are working away in private or on some other platform. Hard thing to do without sharing screenshots.

Clever. Good thinking.

 

I asked that question in the original thread where you posted this then a mod moved both yours and my messages so now I look like an idiot.

[MentalPX]

51 minutes ago, dinthedon said:

Could we maybe see Cape Canaveral in the game? As the new 'Fort Zancudo'? It is quite far from Miami IRL unfortunately, they would have to bend reality a bit & it would have to be on the outer extremities of the map, but would still be so cool to see it in the game, complete with rocket launches, etc.

Vandenberg is quite far from LA and yet it's right next to Los Santos in GTA V in the form of Fort Zancudo.

3 minutes ago, HighertowerGreaterfall said:

Everglades seems like a nice chance for Rockstar to include another Mount Chiliad - Takes up 70% of the map, has absolutely nothing in it, and is a pain in the ass to navigate through.

Florida is flat as a pancake. No mountains anywhere near the Everglades... Expect plenty of lakes, wetlands, few tarmac roads and plenty of dirt roads

[C4k3]

Can we post a re-draw of the metro map?

[Mehaniq]

2 minutes ago, C4k3 said:

Can we post a re-draw of the metro map?

 

[El Dorado]

from reddit, sorry if it was already discussed

 

I just googled "Gellhorn" + Florida and I found that Martha Gellhorn was the third wife of Ernest Hemingway, and apparently they met in Key West in the 30s, so maybe Port Gellhorn is Rockstar's version of Key West

[C4k3]

1 minute ago, Mehaniq said:

 

Thank you! was currently working on this... lol
Saved me a bunch of time!

[Mehaniq]

Just now, El Dorado said:

from reddit, sorry if it was already discussed

 

I just googled "Gellhorn" + Florida and I found that Martha Gellhorn was the third wife of Ernest Hemingway, and apparently they met in Key West in the 30s, so maybe Port Gellhorn is Rockstar's version of Key West

If its true easter egg from developers - cool but too difficult to solve as for regular player (not super-mega-gta-fan)

[GRINCH ASS BITCH]

1 minute ago, El Dorado said:

from reddit, sorry if it was already discussed

 

I just googled "Gellhorn" + Florida and I found that Martha Gellhorn was the third wife of Ernest Hemingway, and apparently they met in Key West in the 30s, so maybe Port Gellhorn is Rockstar's version of Key West

Oooo, good find

 

[El Dorado]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Hemingway

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Gellhorn

 

don't know how much you can read into this, but you never know

[Fido_le_muet]

Found a bunch of buildings. I don't have @Mehaniq drawing skills though 

 

From the metro video : first three in the first half of the vid, the last three at the end : 

1450 Brickell Ave, Brickell City Tower & One Broadway

 

400 N Miami Ave, St John Bosco Church & Miami Dade County Building

 

From the cop car chase : 

102 & 28 S Krome Ave, Homestead

 

From the video with the protagonist at the park going left and right : 

Venetian Isle Condo & 1000 Venetian Way

 

From the video with the protagonist shooting from a car in a tennis court : 

Quantum on the Bay Condo & Uptown Lofts

[dreamsinsleep]

2 hours ago, Relax. said:

there seems to be a place called crosstown?

 

" Gang Directions Crosstown" Same exact script of little Haiti i just found 

 

Also Ambrosia Farms is a place

 

Edit: there's a motel in PG called La Cascara.

 

its  part of a seagulls script that seem to be a collectable

 

"NIEBFS - Seagull - PG La Cascara motel"

 

2 hours ago, hungryforthepower said:

 

Yes, "Crosstown" is mentioned in the clip with the red pickup on the highway, shortly before it has an accident entering "Stockyard".

If I had to guess, maybe Crosstown is Vice City's version of Overtown? Overtown is the inner city black neighbourhood kinda like miami's harlem that used to be where famous jazz musicians would stay. After they built I-95 through the middle of it, the construction had displaced and destroyed a lot of the old community as it descended into being known as a poor run down detroit-tier slum that has only started seeing some gentrification in recent years.

 

 

The video also has a building nearby with street-art not uncommon as one gets closer to Miami's Wynwood district, which used to be mainly factories and warehouses before hipsters and party people took over and transformed them into art galleries and nightclubs.

 

Edited September 19, 2022 by dreamsinsleep

[Mehaniq]

3 minutes ago, Fido_le_muet said:

From the cop car chase : 

102 & 28 S Krome Ave, Homestead

I never seen this two small buildings...
Great work

[Fido_le_muet]

Just now, Mehaniq said:

I never seen this two small buildings...
Great work

They were demolished in 2017/2018. Had to go back in time with StreetView. Looks like they used the 2015-2018 version of the city based on some building textures.

[Mehaniq]

Crossroad close to 1060 Ocean Dr, Miami Beach, FL 33139 (Bon Air)

[JStarr31]

6 hours ago, _MK_ said:

Has there been any mention of another city/cites besides VC from the leaked files? an actual name that is.

Port Gellhorn

[Muramasa1794]

6 hours ago, Vahnstad said:

 

This one? (not my map, i saved it to post this somewhere else, but someone else made that map).

 

Also doesn't breach rules (no minimaps or screenshots), except for the V overlay (but we all know the map of V of course).

And all what was found is basically Vice City + suburbs so the city is gonna feel very realistic, detailed and the scale will be impressive probably. It will be the most large and realistic city ever in a game I believe, because of the unprecedented scale (other cities in games usually get condensed way more).

I hope they also include and island nation like Cuba as well

[Mehaniq]

11 minutes ago, Fido_le_muet said:

They were demolished in 2017/2018. Had to go back in time with StreetView. Looks like they used the 2015-2018 version of the city based on some building textures.

Unlike looking for something old for San Andreas or Vice City - here I began to forget that I need to use the change of years to view. There is a misconception that our days (which open by default in street view) is the right time to look, but it should be noted that the year of filming for textures or for references has not yet been determined and may not be the same as the year when A video was made of which we saw it all.

For this reason, I pointed the wrong building to where there is a large inscription "treasure" and if you marked it on your map, you should delete it

[Mehaniq]

40 minutes ago, Fido_le_muet said:

102 & 28 S Krome Ave, Homestead

28 S Krome Ave (green canopy) was demolished between May 2017 and Aug 2017
102 S Krome Ave (red canopy) was demolished between Aug 2017 and Jul 2018

It can be concluded that the photoshoots for references were taken earlier than in middle of 2017
 

Edited September 19, 2022 by Mehaniq
Wrong date

[AbuChad911]

So from what we've seen so far, we can pretty much confirm that GTA VI's Vice City includes the main parts of Miami itself, Homestead and the Keys further south. From what I understand, we still don't have an indication of how far north the city limits go, as we still haven't seen any location from Broward County. We haven't seen any indication of any place outside of Miami-Dade County (Miami + Homestead) and Monroe County (Keys). 

[JStarr31]

30 minutes ago, AbuChad911 said:

So from what we've seen so far, we can pretty much confirm that GTA VI's Vice City includes the main parts of Miami itself, Homestead and the Keys further south. From what I understand, we still don't have an indication of how far north the city limits go, as we still haven't seen any location from Broward County. We haven't seen any indication of any place outside of Miami-Dade County (Miami + Homestead) and Monroe County (Keys). 

Homestead is Miami.... yea technically its its own city... but so is Liberty City, Miami Gardens, North Miami, North Miami Beach, Aventura, Hialeah, Kendall/Dadeland, and so on...

 

us Miamians dont refer to these places as seperate cities (like how Compton is its own city but reffered to as a neighborhood in LA)... all of that is Miami... everything from County Line (Aventura-Madie Ives-Andover) and im sure R* knows this...

 

The Keys are seperate (obviously) and the furthest north we've got a clue towards is Lake Leonida being a parody of Lake Okeechobee, so its safe to say Vice City will be a mashup of Miami Metropolitan area (MIA-Ft. Lauderdale-Palm Beach) since the southern portion of Okeechobee is in Palm Beach County

 

 

 

EDIT  - after writing this response and remembering the County Line area, there's a neighborhood that we never refer to by name and only call it County Line or Scott Lake.. But its actually called Lake Lucerne... thinking about it, IMO the name Lake Leonida doesn't fit Lake Okeechobee too well, nor does having a highway sign describing it being close to the Northern Beaches.. but if it was the name of County Line/Lake Lucerne (Lucerne/Leonida) then we now have a clear northern border and its on County Line Rd which IRL will take you to the Northern Beaches (Haulover Beach, Sunny Isles, and North Beach)... hmmmm

Edited September 19, 2022 by JStarr31

[Mehaniq]

Seminole Theatre (18 N Krome Ave, Homestead, FL 33030) also appears on right part of screen during chase after two buildings with red and then green canopy. 
Thanks to SoyGalletita from Mapping Vice City Discord server

Edited September 19, 2022 by Mehaniq

[TK211X]

Good work on getting the coords from the stamps and plotting them. Have you tried interpolating the actual measurement distance between two points relative to movement in-game to get an equivalent distance? You can see an inspector tool that shows m/s coupled with coords in multiple instances.
 

Time + Speed = Distance

Distance + Coords = Scale

We can compare this against GTA V and determine the new map scale.

[RaioMakuin]

5 hours ago, Relax. said:

GTA VI Known & returning Locations from the leaked Clips
most of these are from the world events thingy

The Keys 
Vice beach Plaza
Malibu Club 
Ocean Drive/View?
South Beach
Port Gelhorn
PGN {Port Gelhorn North?} Police Station
PG Beach
Redhill Forest
Redhill {Construction site}
Guardia?
Bayside
La Perle?
Everglades {not sure what the ingame name is}
FairyLand {DisneyWorld?}

North Beach

 

thx to @raptex

 

Overtown

Little Haiti

Lake Okeechobee

 

this is still a work in progress.

It says "fairyland forest puzzle" so I assume Is just a forest name.

 

Grassrivers has to be Everglades.

In one clip there is a "Energy in the Grassrivers" poster with an energy pyramid with alligators and pythons being the tartiary consumers.

Some of the world events animals are alligator, boar, racoon, dead python, skunk ape and a shark cage.

 

There is a lot of Port GellHorn ones, sometimes abbreviated PG or PGH with bingo hall, trailer park, substation, basketball court, pawn shop, police station, etc. Also one is "PGHTown".

 

4 hours ago, raptex said:

There is a massive list of in-game events, and one of them is labeled SERA space launch. All but confirms we'll see a cape canaveral. 

"sera failed space launch engine" also with fairing, debris and capsule instead of engine.

 

There is one named "abandoned hovercraft" could be the ATLAS hovercraft? https://www.abandonedfl.com/atlas-hovercraft/

Edited September 19, 2022 by RaioMakuin

[Razed-]

 

Footwear store that appears next to the freeway

Edited September 19, 2022 by Razed-

[Valiant ENT CEO]

3 hours ago, HighertowerGreaterfall said:

Everglades seems like a nice chance for Rockstar to include another Mount Chiliad - Takes up 70% of the map, has absolutely nothing in it, and is a pain in the ass to navigate through.

 

That's so on point it's scary. Haha. You aren't far off. Reasonably speaking I think it could be a good 25-30% of the map.

[USAPatriot]

Good to be back.  I wondered what happened to the other topic.  I saved my work, so when we can eventually post again, I am sure we will.