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  1. 1. Which type of GTA vehicle designs do you prefer?

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tlk23air
16 hours ago, TheHoover69 said:

Makes you wonder if there was previously some sort of disconnect between the vehicle artists and the writers who are in charge of writing stuff for the in-game websites and such.

 

Speaking of oversights, one thing I cannot abide by is when vehicles have totally mismatched engines. This is something that breaks the immersion for me when I think about it.

 

For example, let's take the Bravado Buffalo S, the Vapid Stanier, and the Vapid Interceptor. You expect me to believe that these cars can be comfortably powered by a mere 4-cylinder engine!? If they had forced induction, maybe I can believe it, but we're talking about midsize and full-size sedans here that look to have naturally aspirated 4-cyl motors under their hoods! They should have V8s! Or at the very least a 6-cylinder engine, especially in the case of Vapid Interceptor! I mean, how does this happen? 

 

Some other vehicles that suffer from this problem:

  • Dinka Sugoi - Based on a Civic Type-R but it has a V8 engine.
  • Dinka Blista - Same issue. Car is mostly based on a Civic, but it has a V8 engine under the hood, instead of a transversely mounted 4-cyl engine.
  • Willard Solaire - Vehicle is powered by what looks like a V8 when it should be a V6 motor.
  • Invetero Coquette (1st-gen) - A Corvette-based car being powered by a 4-cyl engine... Seriously? The f*ck?
  • Invetero Coquette (2nd-gen) - Same issue as above.

 

This leads to my next example: Vehicle badging and how there's a disconnect between what the badges indicate the vehicle is equipped with and what it actually has under the hood. Depending on the car, you may notice the badging clearly states that the vehicle is powered by either a V6 or maybe a V10 engine, only to find something different when looking under the hood. Vehicles like the Bobcat and Bobcat XL, are prime examples of this. Both trucks have badging that clearly state they have V10 engines, but if you open the bonnet, you'll see a V8 engine instead. A V8-powered Bobcat is cool and all, but can we please get the badging right?

 

Other examples of vehicles that suffer from this problem:

  • Feroci - Badging states that the vehicle is powered by a 3.0l V6. The engine under the hood is actually a four-cylinder
  • Calico GTF - Badging states that the vehicle is powered by a 2.0 turbocharged engine. Under the hood, you'll actually find a straight-six motor. 
  • Minivan - Badging states that the motor is a 24v (24 valves) engine, meaning it's most likely meant to be a twin-cam V6 engine. However, the modeled engine is a V8.
  • Presidente - Badging states it's a V10 engine under the hood, but what's actually there is what looks like a V8.
  • Burrito - Badging states it's powered by a 3000cc diesel engine, however under the hood is 4-cyl engine.
  • Penumbra - Badging states it's powered by a 2.6 24v engine, meaning it's most likely supposed to be a V6. Under the hood, however, is a V8 engine model. 

One other problem I have is when you see engines mounted the wrong way in regard to the vehicle's drivetrain. What I mean by that is when you have a front-wheel drive car, but under the hood is a longitudinally mounted engine when it should be transversely mounted. I know that SAAB used to make front-wheel drive vehicles with longitudinally mounted motors, but they were the exception to that rule. Anyways, y'all get what I'm saying. For a company that prides itself on pursuing perfection, they seem to be pretty lax about it in some pretty important areas. 

i fully agree with this but it has been getting a bit better in recent dlcs, so it gives me hope. engine models and engine sounds in gta 6 are the one thing we know nothing about yet, cars in the leaks and even the trailer are still using gta 5 sounds and we don't see the engines of any of the new cars. Some recent cars in online have new engine models like the S95 having a unique flat 4 engine, the zr350 having a wankel engine, the new banshee gts finally having a v10 model etc. I hope they finally make badges, website descriptions and engine models consistent, i don't mind some creativity too (within reason), not everything needs to be 1:1 with real life, i find it cool that they give some cars powertrains that are completely different from their real life counterparts like the presidente having a v10. I just hope we don't see inconsistencies like the verlierer being stated to have a 3.0L v8 but the engine model is a big v12

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asadog2
10 hours ago, TheHoover69 said:

The problem is that these were during the 50s and 60s, IV and V are set in the 21st century. But, BMW did have 2.8 and 2.5 straight-six engines that were sold in the 3-Series up until the late-2000s. I think Mercedes-Benz also had sub-3.0 liter 6-cylinder engines as well into the 2000s? 

Yeah true. Interestingly BMW made a 2.0 litre inline six until 2000. The M52TÜB20. Its 2.2 litre successor the M54B22 lasted until 2006. And yeah the 2.5 litre N52B25 lasted until 2013. From then on it’s been 3.0 litre inline sixes. 
Mercedes still makes its 2.5 litre M256 inline six.

 

10 hours ago, TheHoover69 said:

However, I suppose this could be an issue relating to the hardware that was used to develop the game originally and also crunch would've played a role in this as well.

Yeah I would think some of it had to do with hardware limitations. Even though San Andreas on the PS2 had some pretty well detailed engines :kekw:

For the original cars in 5 it’s mostly random boxes with pictures of metal spaghetti for textures. Sometimes they put a lot of effort in though. The BF Injection and dune buggy have pretty accurately modelled VW air cooled engines. 
 

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Twin carbs with air filters, a distributor, oil filter, fan shroud, engine belt driving the alternator and fan. R* even got the exhaust ports correct. How come they can’t get it like this for other cars? 

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Ogivaldelta
2 hours ago, asadog2 said:

Yeah true. Interestingly BMW made a 2.0 litre inline six until 2000. The M52TÜB20. Its 2.2 litre successor the M54B22 lasted until 2006. And yeah the 2.5 litre N52B25 lasted until 2013. From then on it’s been 3.0 litre inline sixes. 
Mercedes still makes its 2.5 litre M256 inline six.

 

Yeah I would think some of it had to do with hardware limitations. Even though San Andreas on the PS2 had some pretty well detailed engines :kekw:

For the original cars in 5 it’s mostly random boxes with pictures of metal spaghetti for textures. Sometimes they put a lot of effort in though. The BF Injection and dune buggy have pretty accurately modelled VW air cooled engines. 
 

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Twin carbs with air filters, a distributor, oil filter, fan shroud, engine belt driving the alternator and fan. R* even got the exhaust ports correct. How come they can’t get it like this for other cars? 

I'm guessing some Rockstar 3D artists are big time gearheads who actually know a lot about cars and some of them are...less passionate, which translates to less effort and/or erroneous detail on assets.

 

TheHoover69
5 hours ago, tlk23air said:

i fully agree with this but it has been getting a bit better in recent dlcs

I agree with this too. I really like the more detailed engines we’ve been getting in the DLC cars since 2020. We got animated timing belts and just better detail all around. I can’t wait to see how the engines will look under the hood in VI, especially considering how well-detailed the vehicle interiors are expected to be. 

asadog2
33 minutes ago, Ogivaldelta said:

I'm guessing some Rockstar 3D artists are big time gearheads who actually know a lot about cars and some of them are...less passionate, which translates to less effort and/or erroneous detail on assets.

 

Yeah probably. I like how they had that detailed VW engine and used it in all the air cooled BF vehicles except for the surfer where they left the engine bay empty. And then the Surfer custom got this….

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While the Weevil took the original engine and added a lot more. Moving engine belt. Covers over the cooling fins to direct air. Just like real life.

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suicidehummer
On 4/21/2025 at 9:25 PM, asadog2 said:

Though the 5 mph bumper certainly targeted imports to an extent. US manufacturers had little issue fitting them to their big boxy cars and had incentive to integrate them into their designs. No import was going to integrate them into their design for 1 country. (or 2 countries since Canada unfortunately carbon copies nearly every US law). Big ugly and heavy bumpers don’t work that well on a small car.

 

The 5 mph bumper was a result of insurance industry lobbying, not nationalism or protectionism. It wasn't easier or cheaper for domestic manufacturers to integrate them than foreign manufacturers, why would it be? If Citroen, MB and others were supposedly so much more advanced than Americans, why would they be unable to do this?

 

The US market, at that time, was the single largest market for automobiles in the world. Likewise, American companies are required to meet different standards for European and Asian markets. That's just how it works.

 

On 4/21/2025 at 9:25 PM, asadog2 said:

On a technological front what Citroën came up with probably was viewed as a threat. Imagine if another manufacturer could come up with that and achieve sales success?

American manufacturers couldn’t produce anything more complex than a leaf spring.

 

I'm not sure if you're just being hyperbolic but the Americans were not cavemen. Tucker had a swiveling headlight in 1948. William Stout built a prototype Stout Scarab that featured a four-wheel independent air suspension system in 1946. Chrysler built a turbine powered car in 1963 and invented ABS in 1971. TONS of automotive innovations came from America.

 

On 4/21/2025 at 9:25 PM, asadog2 said:

And yeah the headlight thing. US laws back then were restrictive and still are. I can’t see the reason for not allowing things like Audis Adaptive Matrix headlights. Presumably Ford loves selling the 1 dollar candlestick (charge the customer 1000 dollars) headlights and can’t figure matrix headlights out. 

 

General Motors invented the first auto-dimming headlights that sense oncoming traffic in 1952.

 

https://www.underhoodservice.com/gms-autronic-eye-1952/

 

Ford invented sequential turn signals in 1965.

 

Governments being slow to allow new technology is not a bad thing, it's a good thing. Making sure products are not dangerous before you allow them to sweep the country is critically important. Just look at the autonomous cars testing on public roads and running over pedestrians.

 

But matrix headlights have been legal in the US since 2022:

 

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1135084_us-finally-allows-use-of-modern-matrix-headlights

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asadog2
20 hours ago, suicidehummer said:

The 5 mph bumper was a result of insurance industry lobbying, not nationalism or protectionism. It wasn't easier or cheaper for domestic manufacturers to integrate them than foreign manufacturers, why would it be? If Citroen, MB and others were supposedly so much more advanced than Americans, why would they be unable to do this?

While yes insurance lobbying led to it, oddly it came at a time when the US was also importing cars en masse. It was easier and cheaper for domestic manufacturers to integrate the bumpers into their design when they only had to worry about their singular market of the US and Canada. Any import had to come up with a second bumper design to put on their cars, all that for two countries. 
 

20 hours ago, suicidehummer said:

The US market, at that time, was the single largest market for automobiles in the world. Likewise, American companies are required to meet different standards for European and Asian markets. That's just how it works.

US market and the European market seemed to buy the same amount of cars at the time. With Europe possibly buying more cars than the US.

From three New York Times articles. Note there was a continuous slump in auto sales in the early 70s due to the oil crisis.

American cars also never really had export markets.
Europe 1972: 11 million 

1973: 9.2 million

 

US 1972: 10.4 million 

1975: 8.8 million

 

20 hours ago, suicidehummer said:

I'm not sure if you're just being hyperbolic but the Americans were not cavemen. Tucker had a swiveling headlight in 1948. William Stout built a prototype Stout Scarab that featured a four-wheel independent air suspension system in 1946. Chrysler built a turbine powered car in 1963 and invented ABS in 1971. TONS of automotive innovations came from America.

 

Though I think the main point is that sure while the Tucker 48 had a singular swiveling headlight it wasn’t mass produced and it wasn’t the main headlights either. First turbine car prototype was the Rover JET1. Though really all those turbine prototypes were a waste of time looking at today. :kekw: Also *The modern ABS system was invented in 1971 by Mario Palazzetti (known as 'Mister ABS') in the Fiat Research Center and has become standard in almost every car. The system was called Antiskid and the patent was sold to Bosch who named it ABS.*


 

20 hours ago, suicidehummer said:

Governments being slow to allow new technology is not a bad thing, it's a good thing. Making sure products are not dangerous before you allow them to sweep the country is critically important. Just look at the autonomous cars testing on public roads and running over pedestrians.

 

But matrix headlights have been legal in the US since 2022:

I think self driving cars and matrix headlights that have been well proven across the world for years are two very different things.

 

And while the law was amended they still aren’t available. 
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/15/cars/headlights-tech-adaptable-high-beams-cars/index.html

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suicidehummer
23 hours ago, asadog2 said:

Though I think the main point is that sure while the Tucker 48 had a singular swiveling headlight it wasn’t mass produced and it wasn’t the main headlights either. First turbine car prototype was the Rover JET1. Though really all those turbine prototypes were a waste of time looking at today. :kekw: Also *The modern ABS system was invented in 1971 by Mario Palazzetti (known as 'Mister ABS') in the Fiat Research Center and has become standard in almost every car. The system was called Antiskid and the patent was sold to Bosch who named it ABS.*

 

Chrysler was the first to bring ABS to a production vehicle though. We can go back and forth about whether invention or mass production matters more, but it can go either way, some were invented by Americans and brought to market by Europeans (like swiveling headlights and adjustable suspensions) and others vice versa (ABS). The point is that clearly there were great minds in every country, competition was stiff and and none were truly head and shoulders above the rest.

 

23 hours ago, asadog2 said:

I think self driving cars and matrix headlights that have been well proven across the world for years are two very different things.

 

Of course, it wasn't a comparison but rather an illustration of why it's good to be slow and judicious when it comes to public safety. The potential to blind people if headlights malfunction is very serious, and there are countless considerations for public well being that you and I would never even think of.

asadog2
14 hours ago, suicidehummer said:

Chrysler was the first to bring ABS to a production vehicle though.

Sure but it was archaic in a way. Bendix (the supplier of the system) circumvented the patent which ended up in only the front wheels being individually controlled while both rear brakes were linked together. It didn’t work very well at all. Aircraft inspired mechanical anti skid systems like the ones used on the Jensen FF were probably better. Between 1971 and 1973 Chrysler only sold a few hundred cars per year with their ABS system. And it was gone in 1974. So really the first car to have four wheel independently computer controlled ABS was the Mercedes W116 in 1978 which used the Bosch system. 
 

14 hours ago, suicidehummer said:

adjustable suspensions

Adjustable suspension was entirely Citroen though. The Stout Scarab had airbag suspension, though it wasn’t adjustable/self levelling from what I can find. The 1954 Citroën Traction Avant had hydropneumatic suspension which was self levelling and the ride height could be adjusted with a lever or locked in place. 

 

14 hours ago, suicidehummer said:

Of course, it wasn't a comparison but rather an illustration of why it's good to be slow and judicious when it comes to public safety. The potential to blind people if headlights malfunction is very serious, and there are countless considerations for public well being that you and I would never even think of.

For certain things yes. But matrix headlights have been well proven around the world since 2013. 

On 4/21/2025 at 4:27 PM, Agent Edward said:

Produced in the 1970's or not, which Ferrari/Pininfarina is this supposed to be?

 

The closest thing to it still is the Enzo, only it does a poor job at it.

 

That's wild and it's a mix between an Enzo and a 1st gen GTA Spano, especially for the rear, but for the greenhouse I can see why they would say 70s

 

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universetwisters
On 4/26/2025 at 1:25 AM, tomas torres said:

I would like to see the return of the compact blister but now based on the second generation Honda CRX

 

I agree tbh, 2nd gen CRX > First gen sorry not sorry

 

Speaking of exotics, I came across this old Mercedes truck in some news footage about a shootout in Miami in the 1980s and I'm like what the f*ck lol. Should rare exotic trucks like this make it into VI or should oddballs like these be relegated to the memory hole?

 

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Ogivaldelta
2 hours ago, universetwisters said:

Speaking of exotics, I came across this old Mercedes truck in some news footage about a shootout in Miami in the 1980s and I'm like what the f*ck lol. Should rare exotic trucks like this make it into VI or should oddballs like these be relegated to the memory hole?

 

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I'm not sure about rare or exotic, but I still see the occasional 40s Ford or Chevy pickup being used by local breweries as actual trucks and also rolling billboards, so antique trucks still have a place in contemporary GTA. IDK they could probably bring back the Ratloader and I wouldnt feel that bent out of shape about it.

asadog2
2 hours ago, universetwisters said:

 

I agree tbh, 2nd gen CRX > First gen sorry not sorry

 

Speaking of exotics, I came across this old Mercedes truck in some news footage about a shootout in Miami in the 1980s and I'm like what the f*ck lol. Should rare exotic trucks like this make it into VI or should oddballs like these be relegated to the memory hole?

 

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I don’t see why not. Those aren’t really super duper rare for their age. Back then they were quite popular on the eastern coast of North America. They were even assembled at a Mercedes factory in Hampton Virginia. But yeah a lot have probably been exported and live on in the Caribbean. 
Plus if they’re gonna keep the International S-series based tow truck (another truck from the 80s) I don’t see why the Mercedes L-series should be left out. IT WAS EVEN IN MANHUNT. Why didn’t we see it in a 3D GTA?

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universetwisters
3 hours ago, asadog2 said:

I don’t see why the Mercedes L-series should be left out. IT WAS EVEN IN MANHUNT. Why didn’t we see it in a 3D GTA?

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tbh I see more Zil than Mercedes in that

 

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TheHoover69
6 hours ago, universetwisters said:

I agree tbh, 2nd gen CRX > First gen sorry not sorry

 3rd-gen Acura Integra > 2nd-gen CRX, any day of the week.

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But really though, the next evolution of the Blista Compact should be based on the Honda Del Sol 🙃

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asadog2
21 hours ago, universetwisters said:

 

tbh I see more Zil than Mercedes in that

 

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Dunno

 

If I squint I see a very low polygon Mercedes L-1117

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universetwisters
Just now, asadog2 said:

If I squint I see a very low polygon Mercedes L-1117

 

You have to squint AND down like five bottles of absinthe. The only similarity between it and the mercedes I can see is the double stacked headlights but, until some ex rockstar dev comes out and tells us otherwise, I'm putting my money on it being a sh*tty zilly

 

 

asadog2
2 minutes ago, universetwisters said:

 

You have to squint AND down like five bottles of absinthe. The only similarity between it and the mercedes I can see is the double stacked headlights but, until some ex rockstar dev comes out and tells us otherwise, I'm putting my money on it being a sh*tty zilly

 

 

The Manhunt truck has the same short and tall hood of the Mercedes too. Bumper, fender and step all being black. All grey on the manhunt truck. And the corners of the windshield droop down as much as the Merc. And the door handles are just as close to the windows.

The square doors and smooth edges of the hood definitely lead one astray though 

 

Also how did Zil f*ck up so bad at bootlegging a Mercedes T2 :kekw:

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universetwisters
3 minutes ago, asadog2 said:

The Manhunt truck has the same short and tall hood of the Mercedes too. Bumper, fender and step all being black. All grey on the manhunt truck. And the corners of the windshield droop down as much as the Merc. And the door handles are just as close to the windows.

The square doors and smooth edges of the hood definitely lead one astray though 

 

I will still sit here and defiantly argue it's a Zil until the end of time

 

3 minutes ago, asadog2 said:

Also how did Zil f*ck up so bad at bootlegging a Mercedes T2 :kekw:

 

Russians whenever they're in a contest to create an original vehicle without ripping off of another one be like:

 

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Tennyzulander
On 4/29/2025 at 7:57 PM, asadog2 said:

The Manhunt truck has the same short and tall hood of the Mercedes too. Bumper, fender and step all being black. All grey on the manhunt truck. And the corners of the windshield droop down as much as the Merc. And the door handles are just as close to the windows.

The square doors and smooth edges of the hood definitely lead one astray though 

 

Also how did Zil f*ck up so bad at bootlegging a Mercedes T2 :kekw:

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Just take the Freightliner FL70 version which shares the same chassis 

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