What annoys you the most about GTA?

[TaylorSwiftDies2038]

On 4/9/2024 at 6:55 AM, AnythingGoner said:

I know that I'm replying to a year and a half old post from a recently banned account, but I couldn't agree more with you. The satire and parody aspect of GTA is honestly a massive hit-or-miss. Some of it is great, some of it is corny, and some of it is just straight up bad. It's inconsistent as hell when you see a actually good and well done fictional brand that would fit perfectly in our world, and you turn around and see another brand that is just a lazy and immature dick joke because LOL SEX JOKES 69 FUNNY REDDIT ONIONS SOY SOY SOY. The subtlely with some of them isn't that great, either. I mean; the dirtbike is literally named Sanchez, and the counterpart to Ford is blatantly called Vapid. It's really sad to see this franchise getting consumed by cheap and unfunny satire when it was shown multiple times that it has a lot of potential to be much more than just 69 jokes.

 

There's an entire thread about this, lol. But yeah, I can't stand the flanderization of the Grand Theft Auto series' humor.

 

Grand Theft Auto III and Vice City's satire was generally balanced. It felt more grounded, and the jokes tended to be more subtle then in later games. It's not a coincidence that these games generally had fewer 69/blatant sex references in their universe building. San Andreas was when it became more obvious. "Cok O Pops", "A Taste of (Things to) Come" with a moaning woman, "San Fierro 69ers", 69 being plastered on the airway runways, all kinds of stupid juvenile sh*t. The Stories' games also went further with it, and with GTA IV/V it gets even more obvious to the point it feels like it's being written by the Family Guy or South Park writers.

 

For me at least these dumb jokes broke the suspension of disbelief and reminded me that I'm in some strange alternate version of reality. It's like I can't logically comprehend some of the branding. Like why the heck would some person name their laundry detergent brand "Jizz!"? Or sell a world famous yogurt brand called "Cumpot"? For every few clever brands like 24/7, Cluckin' Bell, or Canis, there's some really stupid brand name.

 

The Mafia series on the other hand had more "serious" brand names; the humor in those games while adult was much more subtle than in GTA. If they did away with the immature branding/obvious sex jokes and kept the adult humor more focused on the dialogue, I'd be pretty happy. 

[cant remember]

It's even gotten to the point that I get a little kick out of it when I see something entirely normal like "Restaurant" written above a joint.

[JE77]

Too many of same vehicles in the street at the same time. 

Edited May 2, 2024 by JE77

[The-Ghost]

7 hours ago, JE77 said:

Too many of same vehicles in the street at the same time. 

It's usually due to memory limitations, but I am curious how the next game will handle this sort of thing with the additional resources.

[Nico]

The fanbase.

 

Or specifically, how AWFUL it has gotten since GTA Online launched. Old school fans feel like a rara avis these days.

[NightmanCometh96]

On 5/2/2024 at 1:51 PM, Nico said:

The fanbase.

 

Or specifically, how AWFUL it has gotten since GTA Online launched. Old school fans feel like a rara avis these days.

As much of a "no sh*t" statement as it is, I still find it somewhat surreal to think that there are people who were born within the decade after the launch of GTA V and Online who are becoming fans of the series. Even with R*'s stellar single player efforts, sometimes I feel that us older fans aren't the target audience anymore; especially after launch, when SP is all but completely ignored to the point of repurposing story DLC in favor of Online (which has, IMO anyway, more often than not catered towards the younger side of the fanbase. Incidentally, to pour salt in the wound, the multiplayer updates may even break mechanics in the story mode. *Points at the cold clothing bug in RDR2 that took about 6 months to fix...*).

 

With every passing day, I feel more and more like Homer not being with "it" anymore. And I'm nowhere close to being middle aged!

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Of course, I say that as someone who got into the series starting with GTA III in 2001. I unironically feel awful for all the Abe Simpsons out there anyone who prefers and/or has been around since the 2D Era. 
 

On 5/2/2024 at 12:14 PM, The-Ghost said:

It's usually due to memory limitations, but I am curious how the next game will handle this sort of thing with the additional resources.

It’s going to be so liberating to finally have a GTA that wasn’t built around 2005/2006 hardware. Not just for us, but I’m sure the devs at R* feel the same way. The PS3 and 360 were ancient (by tech standards) even when V was new, despite the game doing amazing things with the limited specs.

Edited May 3, 2024 by NightmanCometh96

[Jayso]

When GTA 4 ruined the pay n' spray by making it so a cop can't see you enter

[nl4real]

As someone whose introduction to the series was IV, it kind of feels like the red-headed step child compared to the amount of attention SA and V get.

[.Ryan.]

On 5/5/2024 at 1:34 AM, nl4real said:

As someone whose introduction to the series was IV, it kind of feels like the red-headed step child compared to the amount of attention SA and V get.

San Andreas and GTA V are definitely popular in the general sense.

 

However GTA IV has a solid fanbase within the GTA community. It was rough at the beginning being a huge departure from the 3D era, but over time most have warmed up to its strengths.

 

I wouldn’t say it’s universally “loved”, but it’s a lot better than say 2008/2009. I remember those days. It was tough being a fan of it lol, but perseverance is king.

[Cluckin Bell CEO]

On 5/4/2024 at 9:04 PM, nl4real said:

As someone whose introduction to the series was IV,

 

I think this explains rise in IV love in the recent years. lots of people who started the series with IV think it's the best in the series haha.

[Blackhood1191]

The story isn't really the most outstanding in this series, not outstanding as -shall we say- Red dead, only IV and TLAD have the outstanding stories here, but overall it has t almost the best gameplay

[Haruko Haruhara]

You know how in the 3D era games, there's an animation for jumping out of a speeding car's way so you won't get run over?

 

Yeah sometimes I do that during police shootouts BUT THEN I GET BUSTED WHILE I'M DOWN ON THE GROUND. Hate it so much

[squishyboithighs]

On 5/7/2024 at 2:33 AM, Cluckin Bell CEO said:

 

I think this explains rise in IV love in the recent years. lots of people who started the series with IV think it's the best in the series haha.

I think IV is the best and I grew up on Vice City and San Andreas. Did you ever consider maybe it's because it's a good game? SA and V get enough free hand jobs so IV having a fanbase won't hurt that

[.Ryan.]

6 hours ago, squishyboithighs said:

I think IV is the best and I grew up on Vice City and San Andreas. Did you ever consider maybe it's because it's a good game? SA and V get enough free hand jobs so IV having a fanbase won't hurt that

This response is perfect lol. Well said.

[Yinepi]

If people think the sex jokes in the HD era are bad try listening to GTA2's radio. 90 percent of the Dj chatter, adverts and even songs were about sex.

Anyway, for me the biggest annoyance above all other annoyances is the removal of the respect system.

Do I actually have to explain how much of a dynamic this add to the world and its gangs in GTA2? Instead of fleshing this concept out and expanding on this so that more aspects of the game world would react dynamically to your history of violence and choices made while playing, they simply say "f*ck it, innovation? what's that? Let's make it all pre-scripted!"

It has gotten to the point where every playthrough of a GTA game is the same as the last. The gangs react in the same way at the same time every time, cops become predictable, pedestrians are heavily pre-scripted with a fight or flight response depending on what "class" they belong too. A little variation and variety can go a long way in making a game with long lasting replayability.

Edited June 19, 2024 by Yinepi

[BurnettVice]

Gta online

[Fredster_a]

I don't like how so much of activities in these games are for the most part focused on sim elements that aren't engaging whatsoever, rather than on criminal activities, I get that it's supposed to make the world feel more lived in & immersive and to make the protagonists feel like they belong to that world, allowing players to be able to roleplay more. But when I'm playing a GTA game, I'd expect the majority of the activities and side content to revolve around breaking the law, not being just another NPC.

 

My main issue however with GTA's side content is that much of the side content and minigames in GTA (especially in the HD era) consists of mostly novelties. You'll try them maybe once or twice per playthrough and then have have no incentive to revisit them again. Speaking of incentivization, since you no longer unlocked as many cool & useful rewards or stat upgrades like in the 3D era, there's really no reason for the player to even participate in these activities to begin with. To add salt to injury, nearly all of the side content in GTA IV & V are for the most part just novelties or sim elements. 

 

Rockstar themselves must've realized just how boring and lackluster the side content in the HD games were to begin with (specifically IV), so they introduced the annoying friendship/girlfriend mechanic in GTA IV to give the illusion that these activities weren't just dull novelties. Since friends/girlfriends constantly call and annoy Niko, the player is therefore encouraged to participate in these activities more frequently. The DLCs focused less on this mechanic, so they introduced the gang wars/drug wars, which in my personal opinion was better than any of the side activities in the base game, as they actually utilized the combat mechanics outside of shooting galleries more and granted the player a lot of cash outside of story missions. 

 

For V on the other hand, this became a HUGE problem. Besides the Strangers & Freaks, the random encounters and the Arms Trafficking side missions for Oscar after purchasing McKenzie Field which are only available as Trevor, All the other activities in the game are... well I'm gonna sound harsh here, they're all sh*t. All of them, every single one of them are just novelties you'll do maybe once or twice and then never touch again. And even though the Strangers & Freaks, random encounters and Arms trafficking missions are quite decent, all three of these are still extremely scripted, preventing the player from interacting with the world and its systems in any meaningful ways. This is why I think a lot of people in the old school GTA community find GTA V's open world more boring and less interesting than previous titles in the franchise.

 

For GTA VI, I hope they can fix this problem with a few solutions of mine:

1. Use the side activities & minigames in interesting ways during missions.

2. Strike a good balance between criminal activities and sim elements.

3. Offer the player useful rewards for participating and finishing the side content similar to the 3D era games.

4. Utilize and expand on the stats & RPG aspects of San Andreas & V more. For example, let's say Lucia or Jason is absolutely terrible at tennis at the start of the game, and can't play for sh*t, however the more you play and participate in tennis, you more you increase your skill stat in movement and how accurate you are with the tennis racket and improve their eye coordination. This in turn will also affect and improve the general gameplay like movement will be smoother and maybe from the improved eye coordination you'll also be more accurate with guns. This would encourage the player to do participate in these activities more often and provide a sense of purpose and progression when revisiting them.

Edited June 27, 2024 by Fredster_a

[E Revere]

On 9/12/2022 at 3:25 PM, bahraini_carguy said:

Collectibles.

 

(Long rant)

 

If it's like GTA 3, Vice City, LCS and VCS then it wasn't all that bad since the maps were fairly small and you got rewarded each time you collected 10 packages. Additionally in VCS, you can actually check on the map which of the 99 balloons you have popped or not.

 

On the other hand, San Andreas, IV and V felt too much of a chores.

 

San Andreas is the least bad out of the three since the rewards are kinda decent but going through 250 collectibles in total was a tedious experience.

 

GTA 4's 200 Pigeons is by far the worst one. The fact that the only reward you get for shooting all 'em birds is a helicopter located on top of a skyscraper (one that you could easily get in other locations, mind you) is pretty bad enough. I'm not even getting into the other reasons why it's the worst thing by far in GTA 4.

imo, GTA IV's situation is still on the better side alongside SA compared to V because at least they encourage you to explore the map and see stuff you might have missed otherwise. Whereas in GTA V, they're the worst. Too many collectibles for too little gain. It's downright insulting.

[GTAGUY the 2nd]

Ok, i'll write down everything that annoys me on each game because why tf not

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WARNING: Excessive swearing if your favourite game gets offended here, take it with a grain of salt

GTA 1: The Camera. I get it, it's the original and I respect it for what it is, but holy sh*t, every time I drive I feel nauseous.

GTA London 1969+61: Barely played those, but they are nothing special. Cool expansion packs for GTA 1, I guess

GTA 2: The controls age like already expired milk. If there was a mod that refined them it would have been a blast. Still a really fun game 

GTA 3: If you forget that mission where you kill Kenzy, well rip your 100% run

Vice City: f*ck Hilary King, that is all

Advance: The game itself. It started as a GTA 3 port on the GBA and for some reason they released a half-assed game the same day San Andreas came out. The latter itself is a terrible marketing strategy.

San Andreas: "The cash is leaving Los Santos again"

Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories: f*ck you Cockstar for not releasing them on PC. Great games tho

 GTA IV+EFLC: My 2nd favorite GTA but its eltist fanboys that sh*t on you for liking V or criticizing some aspects of the game. Suck ass. Get a life. And whoever decided that it was the PC port that was ready to be released can suck my dingly dong. f*ck Flying rats as well 

GTA V: The story was great per se, but I feel it should have been longer. I personally think that instead of the heavy focus on the FIB, the plot should've paid more attention to the protagonists and their friends andfamily to create a stronger bond between the player and the characters. Lamar, for example, had so much potential to be up there with Roman for the most loved protagonist, but Rockstar's approach blew it away. Also, disappointing lack of a singleplayer DLC is disappointing. I'd love a North Yankton expansion where we see the background of Michael's and Trevor's old lives or a Lamar DLC that takes place during the storyline, similarly to EFLC.

[LongHairedFreakyGuy]

On 5/3/2024 at 3:25 PM, NightmanCometh96 said:

As much of a "no sh*t" statement as it is, I still find it somewhat surreal to think that there are people who were born within the decade after the launch of GTA V and Online who are becoming fans of the series. Even with R*'s stellar single player efforts, sometimes I feel that us older fans aren't the target audience anymore

 

It's pretty ironic when you suddenly feel like you're too old to be playing the latest GTA game. It's probably why V is my least favourite in the series, given that in hindsight you can see who the target audience was for the game and how little crap they gave to us long time Single Player fans. 

 

 

[Guest]

having a bad day but ill try to add. i love the original gtas on ps2, i have no complaints about them except the collectable, i dont mind even if theres a ton of them, but theres no indicators of where they are and you have to figure it out online. in just cause on ps2, it showed you all the collectable locations, it should since the game was so huge. games shouldnt have collectables if theres no mini game where you can either unlock the locations of collectables or just out right get the locations off the bat. san andreas is unbelievable with all these collectables, as if its filler to make the game longer, and its a very decent game, one of the best. probably the best OF the 3d era, because LCS and VCS were downgrades from san andreas. its just terrible that theres no location for the collectables, very poor design there, just cause did it better on ps2

 

bully on ps2 also didnt have the collectables shown, if i remember right, since you didnt have that reward from completing the class until the 360 version came out. it just gets to me because i like playing the games on the original consoles that they were released on, so a v1.00 release, pure, unpatched original. i cant explain it, its like an ocd for video games in this sense. i know people love to say the pc versions of games are better than ps2, and all that stuff, graphically yes that is true, but it is still a revision, a different build, patched old glitches from the original game that was released, etc etc etc etc.

 

im really trying to think of what else i dont like about the games. now im talking about the original ps2 games, i think they are perfect, seriously.. for gta iv, v, maybe its just the games dont got the charm the originals have, maybe its something to do with the later generation of consoles, and not being the original ps2 ones, because the rockstar charm really shines on those old games, even the 2 definition ps1 games, i still enjoy them as well. probably my favorite 360/ps3 era game is red dead redemption, the unpatched version v1.00 because of the man animals glitch with all them funny people flapping their arms and flying lolz....

 

im trying hard to think, maybe i will think of something later, but its really the collectables not showing on the maps. on vice city stories the collectables show AFTER you collect them and you have manually click the map and click a setting to make them appear, and if you didnt know how to do that, you wouldnt know that feature existed, and its completely pointless. i just hope gta 6 will have some sort of indicator that lets you figure out where the collectables are. gta 5 had chop but i dont know how accurate that really is

[Silver]

While not inherent to the GTA series yet, I absolutely hate the hand-holding that was introduced in V. Stuff like the game suddenly controlling your movements while going up or down a set of stairs, or simply walking on a scripted path, moments where you no longer have full control on your character without even being in a cutscene, I find this infuriating. You essentially have to fight the game really hard to go where you want at times and I hate it.

 

Something to that effect is also present in RDR2. In some missions for instance, characters have this sort of invisible bubble around them that automatically slows you down or automatically pushes you out of their way whenever you get too close, that way you don't collide with them when they're doing their scripted animations and you follow them at their own speed which isn't a bad idea per se, but there are times when you don't really get a heads up of this happening and you're instantly slowed down, pushed away or your horse turns around on its own because you're seemingly in the wrong spot. Little moments like these where you just feel the game taking control of your movements for the sake of immersion.

 

I just hope R* will either tone this down in GTA VI or remove it altogether. I kind of miss being able to do whatever I want in missions, even if that means ruining the scene, as long as even the smallest offense doesn't result in a mission failed. As unrealistic and immersion-breaking as it can be, I like being able to push characters like ragdolls in IV if I ever feel the desire to, or being able to shoot them, or being able to shoot a gun in an interior, stuff like that. I like the freedom to mess around whenever you want just for the sake of it without the game throwing a tantrum pretty much and forcing you to do exactly what it tells you to do.

[cant remember]

I don't remember if I already said it but

San Andreas: the wacky traffic. It pretty much ruins the whole game for me.

 

GTA 5: the downgraded physics. Also ruins a lot for me. Didn't need it to be all weighty like GTA4 but it just isn't fun to drive/crash cars in V.

[handy_fox]

Every GTA I have played has this thing when I'm trying to beat a timer, racing to get an objective, cars always just decide to just change lanes. You swerve from behind them and they try to change lanes again. That is super irritating.

 

I also hate when I need a car in GTA2, a cop magically appears on screen. And escaping them is harder, you have to stop what you're doing and duck into an ally for a couple of minutes. And if you're on foot, you have to make sure you don't bump into anything or they'll catch up. Even with that, I feel like it's a great improvement over GTA1.

[Jeansowaty]

On 9/11/2024 at 1:06 PM, handy_fox said:

Every GTA I have played has this thing when I'm trying to beat a timer, racing to get an objective, cars always just decide to just change lanes. You swerve from behind them and they try to change lanes again. That is super irritating.

 

I also hate when I need a car in GTA2, a cop magically appears on screen. And escaping them is harder, you have to stop what you're doing and duck into an ally for a couple of minutes. And if you're on foot, you have to make sure you don't bump into anything or they'll catch up. Even with that, I feel like it's a great improvement over GTA1.

In GTA2 the cops rubberband a lot more than in 1 and they RESPAWN in front of you always... I'm taking GTA1's cops any day, just gotta avoid long roads lmao

[Bobs Pizza]

GTAO has nice properties but they have alcohol in and i cant stand alcohol and i refuse to buy one. Yes im weird.

Edited September 13, 2024 by Bobs Pizza

[Silver]

9 hours ago, Bobs Pizza said:

GTAO has nice properties but they have alcohol in and i cant stand alcohol and i refuse to buy one. Yes im weird.

There's green juice, it replenishes health too.

[Bobs Pizza]

7 hours ago, Legomanarthur said:

There's green juice, it replenishes health too.

Pretty funny as I'm getting over years of alcohol abuse and using GTA Online and some other games as my downtime from my work without drinking copious amounts of whiskey and beer. Maybe an OCD thing which may seem silly but on the other hand starting all over again and grinding this game is doing me wonders. 

[Ogivaldelta]

A building being accessible for a singular mission, then never again.

[GhettoJesus]

On 9/16/2024 at 12:28 AM, Ogivaldelta said:

A building being accessible for a singular mission, then never again.

Same for areas, like North Yankton in V or Liberty City in SA