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Here's a theory I came up with, it's probably flawed and falls apart if you think about it for more than 6 seconds, but I still wanted to post it just for fun:

 

Claude begun as a small time racer and criminal in San Fiero, and through unknown means gained ownership of a garage. There he met Catalina, and after losing a race to Carl Johnson, gave him ownership of the garage. We know that Claude and Catalina begun a 9 year crime journey to get to Liberty city, however it's impossible for it to have taken that long unless they lived in another location for some years before actually going to LC. That's where Anywhere city comes in our story. Catalina and Claude split up for some time, with Catalina travelling to various locations and eventually becoming high-ranking in the Colombian Cartel, and Claude going to Anywhere city. During his stay at anywhere city, he starts to transform from a small-time thug to the more experienced silent bank robber we see in GTA 3. He starts working for various gangs, and weakens the Zaibatsu corporation, including stealing a van full of crates containing a mysterious drug as seen in the GTA 2 film. As seen in the film, Claude is unfortunately eventually discovered by a Zaibatsu assassin, who shoots him thrice. Claude survived this, but the gunshots and the psychological shock he suffered left him mute, only being able to make very few sounds like grunts or breathing sounds. Eventually he manages to get all anywhere city gang leaders killed, and reunites with Catalina to travel to liberty city, where the events of the GTA 3 storyline take place. Donald Love is after this mysterious package which the Colombian Cartel is also after. I believe this package contains the Zaibatsu drugs we see in the GTA 2 film, and the drugs have been used by the Colombian Cartel for quite some time to produce SPANK, an altered and more powerful version of the Zaibatsu drugs.

 

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Not a bad theory, to be honest. Like you said, it's likely illogical but a still pretty fun theory.

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On 8/13/2022 at 6:23 AM, Comrade Monke said:

Here's a theory I came up with, it's probably flawed and falls apart if you think about it for more than 6 seconds, but I still wanted to post it just for fun:

 

Claude begun as a small time racer and criminal in San Fiero, and through unknown means gained ownership of a garage. There he met Catalina, and after losing a race to Carl Johnson, gave him ownership of the garage. We know that Claude and Catalina begun a 9 year crime journey to get to Liberty city, however it's impossible for it to have taken that long unless they lived in another location for some years before actually going to LC. That's where Anywhere city comes in our story. Catalina and Claude split up for some time, with Catalina travelling to various locations and eventually becoming high-ranking in the Colombian Cartel, and Claude going to Anywhere city. During his stay at anywhere city, he starts to transform from a small-time thug to the more experienced silent bank robber we see in GTA 3. He starts working for various gangs, and weakens the Zaibatsu corporation, including stealing a van full of crates containing a mysterious drug as seen in the GTA 2 film. As seen in the film, Claude is unfortunately eventually discovered by a Zaibatsu assassin, who shoots him thrice. Claude survived this, but the gunshots and the psychological shock he suffered left him mute, only being able to make very few sounds like grunts or breathing sounds. Eventually he manages to get all anywhere city gang leaders killed, and reunites with Catalina to travel to liberty city, where the events of the GTA 3 storyline take place. Donald Love is after this mysterious package which the Colombian Cartel is also after. I believe this package contains the Zaibatsu drugs we see in the GTA 2 film, and the drugs have been used by the Colombian Cartel for quite some time to produce SPANK, an altered and more powerful version of the Zaibatsu drugs.

 

Thoughts?

AFAIK Zoom-Zoom is already a condemned(?) drug in GTA2, hard to think a bunch of red pills would be of any use in SPANK which is thought to be a derivative of cocaine.

 

BTW nice theory, it sits well on paper IMO, but just a note that GTA2 and GTA3 are two years apart based on the timeline (1999 and 2001 respectively).

 

But then it's also said the game is retro-futuristic and it's set in 2013 so... damn, I don't think the game is even canon in any universe at all. It seems to have it's own kind of "GTA2 universe". IDK...

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Not bad, but if I remember correctly...

On 8/13/2022 at 2:23 AM, Comrade Monke said:

Claude begun as a small time racer and criminal in San Fiero, and through unknown means gained ownership of a garage. There he met Catalina, and after losing a race to Carl Johnson, gave him ownership of the garage. We know that Claude and Catalina begun a 9 year crime journey to get to Liberty city.

 

 

On 8/13/2022 at 2:23 AM, Comrade Monke said:

Claude is unfortunately eventually discovered by a Zaibatsu assassin, who shoots him thrice. Claude survived this, but the gunshots and the psychological shock he suffered left him mute, only being able to make very few sounds like grunts or breathing sounds.

Claude was already mute in San Andreas, Carl Johnson once said this:
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He was referring to Claude when he gave him the ownership of the garage.

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31 minutes ago, Carl Theft Kumar said:

Not bad, but if I remember correctly...

 

 

Claude was already mute in San Andreas, Carl Johnson once said this:
ymBQhhA.gif

He was referring to Claude when he gave him the ownership of the garage.

Well yeah but i like to think of Claude's muteness in GTA sa as more him trying to intimidating CJ rather than him having a problem causing him not to speak

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On 8/14/2022 at 12:16 PM, H-G said:

AFAIK Zoom-Zoom is already a condemned(?) drug in GTA2, hard to think a bunch of red pills would be of any use in SPANK which is thought to be a derivative of cocaine.

 

BTW nice theory, it sits well on paper IMO, but just a note that GTA2 and GTA3 are two years apart based on the timeline (1999 and 2001 respectively).

 

But then it's also said the game is retro-futuristic and it's set in 2013 so... damn, I don't think the game is even canon in any universe at all. It seems to have it's own kind of "GTA2 universe". IDK...

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