Next DLC Speculation Topic Mk XII Mk 2

[Spider-Vice]

You joke but that really applies to all kinds of PC game development, new or old games.  After months of optimisation and testing, the thing works great on all the machine combos you've tested it in, you have some specs typed out and everything, then when it goes live some person with a specific combo of AMD GPU and Intel CPU or something can't play it properly.

 

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[Gridl0k]

Everything is fine except the hooky Shenzen driver that runs yer cascading dolphins RGB LED array

[SummerFreeze]

1 hour ago, Gridl0k said:

Without wanting to start a Gun Guy thing, it's a 50 (60?) year old gun, I like that it's not toting a full set

Then they could have given us an M1917 Enfield. I doubt many people are buying a Remington 700 PCR to use without a scope.

Edited Saturday at 11:41 AM by SummerFreeze

[needforsuv]

I'd like to see splitter with canards and side skirts for the stirling gt

as a lover of many wings, the HSW aero does tempt me, but it wouldn't look balanced without anything added to the front

I mean, of all the cars that got new parts, I think that got the least?

[Gridl0k]

15 minutes ago, needforsuv said:

I'd like to see splitter with canards and side skirts for the stirling gt

as a lover of many wings, the HSW aero does tempt me, but it wouldn't look balanced without anything added to the front

I mean, of all the cars that got new parts, I think that got the least?

 

Mine sports a period-authentic spare wheel, from a mille miglia or whatnot, which counts as a spoiler

[ACR]

23 minutes ago, SummerFreeze said:

Then they could have given us an M1917 Enfield. I doubt many people are buying a Remington 700 PCR to use without a scope.

They should've given us winchester repeater or some other lever action rifle, issue would be to make reload animation but that's something new and unique. 

[DODI3OG]

1 hour ago, Gridl0k said:

PC E&E has been repeatedly delayed due to the pains of dragging a 10 year old game into the era of RT and so forth, across 12 billion hardware combos.

 

 

I'm not really a computer hardware expert, but with my past PC experience, I can say this is mostly the case.

 

See, GTA V was made on the PS360 hardware. Its scripts were programmed to be ran by bits and pieces of much simpler tech.

 

Fast forward to the present day and the tech has gotten more complex that if they port it over, most of the hardware will be underutilized and the scripts are no longer ran by processing cores on a 1:1 basis.

 

Not just that, but as Gridl0k said, there could be billions of hardware combos of GPU, CPU, motherboard, each with their different levels of complexity and power.

 

I wouldn't expect it to be like the the jump from PS360>last gen>OG PC. If they managed to pull off RT Reflections and RTGI, it would probably be like RE 7 where it only made the shadows and reflections more accurate. The textures on unmodded PC are already smooth as butter at the highest setting.

 

If anything, I'd expect the latest hardware to be the priority in optimization since they're the ones closest to the current-gen's hardware combo.

 

[AUScowboy]

3 hours ago, ACR said:

They should've given us winchester repeater or some other lever action rifle, issue would be to make reload animation but that's something new and unique. 

Could they not just use the animations from RDR2? I'd love some older guns, they should have chosen the Mauser instead of the Navy revolver which is kinda boring in GTAO's meta. A G3 or FAL would be a good one too.

[ACR]

34 minutes ago, AUScowboy said:

Could they not just use the animations from RDR2? I'd love some older guns, they should have chosen the Mauser instead of the Navy revolver which is kinda boring in GTAO's meta. A G3 or FAL would be a good one too.

They could probably, just gotta transfer them to gta, but it might be more complicated than that. I was disappointed with heavy rifle, should have more damage and recoil and be either semi auto hitter or harder to control full auto but resemble behaviour of heavy round such as 7.62x51, while heavy looks more like scar h it has same damage as 5.56 rifles, they should've curve that magazine and base it on scar-l then. 

[needforsuv]

42 minutes ago, ACR said:

They could probably, just gotta transfer them to gta, but it might be more complicated than that. I was disappointed with heavy rifle, should have more damage and recoil and be either semi auto hitter or harder to control full auto but resemble behaviour of heavy round such as 7.62x51, while heavy looks more like scar h it has same damage as 5.56 rifles, they should've curve that magazine and base it on scar-l then. 

or more range

[DM_Tony]

Just some of my thoughts:

At the bottom of the Newswire they said a selection of vehicles will be on sale this month. Why announce the sale halfway through the month? Why these vehicles and why do they have different percentages off. I mean 75% for the cheapest one (BF400) but only 30% for the Armored Boxville.

 

When do we expect the 2X RP and GTA$ to finish (which launched with the DLC)? I feel like its kinda blocking R* from releasing double RP and GTA$ for business sales. We haven’t had a week for Special Cargo for a while and only GTA+ have MC business bonuses.

 

For the Community Series, we only have 7 Stunt Races. But there are different modes with no entries. Would R* release one grouping per week going forward?

 

Like the majority, I do agree that the next GTA+ vehicle would be the 10F. Personally, I think they will release the 10F widebody alongside it. Making it more enticing to market their subscription service (Vigero VX had the free HSW upgrade with it).

 

E&E update coming to PC soon, hence why we had no new vehicles for two weeks straight? Unsure, I don’t play on PC. Though I feel they will provide a test drive option to the new Tuners one week early, like with the LS Tuners update.

Edited Saturday at 04:49 PM by DM_Tony

[Tez2]

8 hours ago, PisswasserEnjoyer said:

I will take that as a compliment thanks :D.

 

But does this mean that Rockstar will 100% push the update on semptember though? Usually Rockstar likes to delay their stuff and if that is the case then the update could arrive at the beginning of october or maybe even mid october.

I believe it's as @Spider-Vice said. A patch to the current Gen8 codebase. While Rockstar continues to work on Gen9 content for the December update.

 

Late September is likely the time window.

[ACR]

Time window for what? E&E PC? They hadn't announced anything related to that, unless they plan to silently release that with an article on day of the release or something along those lines i don't see how E&E for PC is ready by the end of september.

Edited Saturday at 06:17 PM by ACR

[EkaSwede]

HSW on PC would be sweet. I hope they can handle it, though...

 

Though it'll be realyl fun with some fast fun cars. I'm looking forward to the Hakuchou Drag. It's been my favourite bike for the longest of time. Reliable little thing (yes, I know Bati and Akuma's better in general, but something about the Drag just clicks)

Edited Saturday at 06:51 PM by EkaSwede

[Hazzardtohimself]

32 minutes ago, EkaSwede said:

HSW on PC would be sweet. I hope they can handle it, though...

 

I'd like to think that most PCs should be okay in terms of available hardware / performance etc. even if they're as old as GTA5. 

The question will be whether Rockstar's spaghetti code can translate the new speed available into acceptable gameplay without frame-drops, vehicles popping into existence at the last second, or just graphics cards going...

 

... due to lack of optimisation or something. 

[AUScowboy]

3 hours ago, ACR said:

They could probably, just gotta transfer them to gta, but it might be more complicated than that. I was disappointed with heavy rifle, should have more damage and recoil and be either semi auto hitter or harder to control full auto but resemble behaviour of heavy round such as 7.62x51, while heavy looks more like scar h it has same damage as 5.56 rifles, they should've curve that magazine and base it on scar-l then. 

I'm actually pretty satisfied with the Heavy. The range is more of an issue to me than the damage, it should have about 25% more reach. The model is one of the best in the game for my money, compared to other older non Mk.II guns and the sound is perfect. Rockstar really have been improving their game when it comes to gun SFX as well as gun and vehicle modelling. Given their newfound appreciation for QOL/community requested changes, maybe they'll buff all the guns a little bit if people get noise enough about it. That seems like something a good amount of player could get behind and a common complaint when it comes to critiques of the shooting mechanics.

[SHOKKERZ91]

As long as Raytracing is a optional feature, i don´t see any problems with E&E on Pc. My 1080ti has to run a little while longer, since prices for 30series cards are still way to overpriced in my country. And i guess my situation applies to many Pc-Players aswell, beeing to stubborn to pay more than the product is worth.

[ACR]

20 minutes ago, SHOKKERZ91 said:

As long as Raytracing is a optional feature, i don´t see any problems with E&E on Pc. My 1080ti has to run a little while longer, since prices for 30series cards are still way to overpriced in my country. And i guess my situation applies to many Pc-Players aswell, beeing to stubborn to pay more than the product is worth.

Thinking about it, E&E on consoles apart from some graphical effects and ray tracing looks almost the same as very high details on PC. I would expect that they would add RT options to enable or not, either integrate new effects as smoke and fire improvements, improved glass particles, etc or give us the same options to enable them and add dx12 support. That way if someone have issues with performance due to new details can just keep same settings that we currently have on pc. I don't expect that E&E fire and smoke effects would present any significant performance hit if at all , but RT would for sure and it's better to have an option to disable them. 

Edited Saturday at 08:09 PM by ACR

[boomboom5950]

4 hours ago, ACR said:

Time window for what? E&E PC? They hadn't announced anything related to that, unless they plan to silently release that with an article on day of the release or something along those lines i don't see how E&E for PC is ready by the end of september.

I dont see them announcing it before releasing it, console players wouldnt be too happy seeing they had to pay for the game again while pc players get it for free. I could see it being paired in with an event week article and an update

[ACR]

4 minutes ago, boomboom5950 said:

I dont see them announcing it before releasing it, console players wouldnt be too happy seeing they had to pay for the game again while pc players get it for free. I could see it being paired in with an event week article and an update

As a PC player and stingy at that, i would welcome it being free stealth release, but i don't see how they would avoid a chance to charge again, i just don't see them giving it for free even though it's the same game and upgrade would be insignificant compared to upgrade that current gen got in march. But we'll see what will happen anyway.

Edited Saturday at 11:16 PM by ACR

[VitoCorleone1992]

42 minutes ago, ACR said:

As a PC player and stingy at that, i would welcome it being free stealth release, but i don't see how they would avoid a chance to charge again, i just don't see them giving it for free even though it's the same game and upgrade would be insignificant compared to upgrade that current gen got in march. But we'll see what will happen anyway.

Don't give them ideas.

[Jason Frost]

6 hours ago, Tez2 said:

Late September is likely the time window.

Yeah, it could be around October 1st, the day GTAO launched in 2013.

[VitoCorleone1992]

10 minutes ago, Jason Frost said:

Yeah, it could be around October 1st, the day GTAO launched in 2013.

Imagine in that day they also announce the end of the old gen.

[rollschuh2282]

11 minutes ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

Imagine in that day they also announce the end of the old gen.

ngl...that would be hilarious!

[rollschuh2282]

Way I see it, there´s two types of People.

 

Edited Sunday at 12:51 AM by rollschuh2282

[MaddenedGhost]

17 minutes ago, rollschuh2282 said:

Way I see it, there´s two types of People.

 

The way I see it there's two types of people, those who spend their lives trying to build a future and those who spend their lives trying to rebuild the past, and for too long I was stuck in between - which would probably be  in this case.

 

 

Quote is from Max Payne 3 by the way.

[Spider-Vice]

1 hour ago, ACR said:

As a PC player and stingy at that, i would welcome it being free stealth release, but i don't see how they would avoid a chance to charge again, i just don't see them giving it for free even though it's the same game and upgrade would be insignificant compared to upgrade that current gen got in march. But we'll see what will happen anyway.

As mentioned earlier though, all of the potential "E&E" changes that are being done on Steam are being done in the same app as the current GTA V, meaning that it would simply be an update - charging people would require an entirely new app, separate Steam Store entry people would have to purchase. Not to mention that despite the fact there are many other under-the-hood updates to the game, the update isn't as significant on PC because that already had high frame rates etc. There have been other publishers such as Deep Silver (I think) in the past that charged on console for a remaster but not on PC so...

 

5 hours ago, SHOKKERZ91 said:

As long as Raytracing is a optional feature, i don´t see any problems with E&E on Pc.

As with all other games I'm sure it'll be.  Consoles don't have RT in performance mode and the settings file from the PS5 that leaked shows a bunch of toggleable RT options that are likely gonna be for PC so... The bigger changes for those without RT cards will be the new graphics API (DX12 at the very least as that'd be what Xbox is using and it's necessary for RT), FSR and TAA and so on...

 

46 minutes ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

Imagine in that day they also announce the end of the old gen.

I still have some personal reservations about the Winter DLC coming to old gen considering how rickety it already is tbh but we'll see  

[MaddenedGhost]

2 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

 

 

As with all other games I'm sure it'll be.  Consoles don't have RT in performance mode and the settings file from the PS5 that leaked shows a bunch of toggleable RT options that are likely gonna be for PC so... The bigger changes for those without RT cards will be the new graphics API (DX12 at the very least as that'd be what Xbox is using and it's necessary for RT), FSR and TAA and so on...

We do have RT in one of the performance modes, what I really wanted them to do was give the other normal performance mode high settings, I don't think it's maxed out.

[Spider-Vice]

1 hour ago, MaddenedGhost said:

We do have RT in one of the performance modes

Yep, which is why I said "performance" and not "performance RT".  

[needforsuv]

8 hours ago, Hazzardtohimself said:

acceptable gameplay without frame-drops, vehicles popping into existence at the last second

they already can