Comrade Monke Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Don't get me wrong, the voice actor did a really good job (all voice actors in GTA sa did an amazing job), but the character is awful for this type of game imo. He is annoying as f*ck. Half of the cutscenes consist of him complaining, a task is then explained to him, then he complains again, but still does it anyway for some reason. 60% of the missions in this game consist of random tasks, completely unrelated to the story. Like seriously, this game is so good up until you get kicked out of Los Santos, after that the game's story is actual hell. Oh my brother Spoiler Sweet is about to be killed by Ballas , now Carl is arrested, can't wait to see what happens nex- ok now I am killing a random guy and taking a picture of his body... Then I do some robberies with that bitch Catalina from GTA 3, oh there's Claude, I bet CJ's interactions will be coo- oh now they are leaving for LC. Ok San Fiero now that's where things are gonna get interesting, oh it's RC plane missions now... And you are only gonna find out what's happening with your brother once you get to f*cking Las Venturas. All over the place story accompanied by CJ complaining and doing literally anything they tell him. Why is he even doing stuff for Tenpenny? "But if he killed Tenpenny then he would get in trouble" he kills Pulaski in that one mission and nothing significant happened... Like I can understand doing stuff for Toreno because he has influence in what happens to his brother, but why does he care about Tenpenny? Just blow the mf's brains out. Not to mention CJ's personality is inconsistent, one moment he is a good guy that does anything he is asked the next he massacres construction workers because some of them said some bad stuff about his sister. Also how the hell does a street gangster invade a f*cking military base and steals a jet? What? It's such a downgrade from the previous protagonist, Tommy was the perfect character for this type of game, he took no sh*t from anyone but was also loyal and kind to those that helped him. It's sad because this game had a lot of awesome mechanics that were locked behind a terrible inconsistent story. Can someone genuinely explain to me why CJ and San Andreas story are praised so much? I genuinely am not trying to cause a fight or be antagonistic I am curious why it's praised so much. Also if this topic belongs in another section of the forums then I am sorry and move it there. Lioshenka, Copcaller, The Artist and 3 others 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhettoJesus Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 12 hours ago, Comrade Monke said: oh it's RC plane missions now.. But those are not mandatory at all. San Fierro, is probably one of the best arcs of the game, I really like the missions that take place there. Describing an arc based on 3 non-mandatory missions is not right. 12 hours ago, Comrade Monke said: And you are only gonna find out what's happening with your brother once you get to f*cking Las Venturas. Tenpenny immediately tells you that Sweet is in the prison's hospital. So you find out what's happening with him right before you are dropped off in Angel Pine. Then Toreno tells you that he can arrange Sweet's release if you do all those crazy things for him. 12 hours ago, Comrade Monke said: Why is he even doing stuff for Tenpenny? "But if he killed Tenpenny then he would get in trouble" he kills Pulaski in that one mission and nothing significant happened... Tenpenny has Sweet and CJ by the balls. They make it very clear that if CJ f*cks with them then they will f*ck with Sweet. And by the time Pulaski was killed the noose was tight around Tenpenny's neck. Though it is a valid point, I don't think anyone could show a shred of evidence against Tenpenny had he arrested Carl. 12 hours ago, Comrade Monke said: Not to mention CJ's personality is inconsistent, one moment he is a good guy that does anything he is asked the next he massacres construction workers because some of them said some bad stuff about his sister. Also how the hell does a street gangster invade a f*cking military base and steals a jet? What? Yeah that's fair. The whole Toreno thing is badly written because Toreno could have done those things all by himself. It's not like CJ was a safe bet for any of those crucial missions. Edited July 26 by GhettoJesus Copcaller and Comrade Monke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekash27 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Apart from being the complaining busta that Ryder accuses of him being, he's a wildcard in any situation. No one would suspect a common street thug to do what he did, that's the reason Woozi asked him for help, and the reason Toreno even used him. The latter I guess was of convenience for Toreno, favors for a favor if you will. I will admit, CJ complaining most of the time did piss me off, but at least he's not Roman . Copcaller and Comrade Monke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Theft Kumar Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Long post ahead... On 7/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: He is annoying as f*ck. Half of the cutscenes consist of him complaining, a task is then explained to him, then he complains again, but still does it anyway for some reason. Well most of the time, he has a reason to complain. In Los Santos, His brother is pressuring him and making him feel like he doesn't belong in the family. In the countryside, His best friends betrayed him, his brother is in prison, and the one he mostly care about, his sister, could be in some dangerous sh*t. In SF and LV, I don't really see him complain that much except for getting hardcore type of impossible mission sh*t (like Black Project). Back in LS his brother is out in prison and drags CJ back to the place he wanted to get out of, I mean CJ wants to get away from all the gang killing sh*t and he wants to have a better peaceful happy life, and Sweet here takes it all away and forced him to kill in the hood. I can see why he'd complain tbh. On 7/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: 60% of the missions in this game consist of random tasks, completely unrelated to the story. Like seriously, this game is so good up until you get kicked out of Los Santos, after that the game's story is actual hell. Oh my brother Well I guess you are right here, but the game itself seems to focus on how fun the missions are. I mean look at GTA IV, it has a good story and stuff but people still complain about how boring the missions are, SA may have a sh*tty story, but you can't deny how fun the missions are. On 7/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: now Carl is arrested, can't wait to see what happens nex- ok now I am killing a random guy and taking a picture of his body. He had to do sh*t for Tenpenny whether he like it or not, Tenpenny has the power to f*ck up Carl and his family's life in just a second. On 7/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: Then I do some robberies with that bitch Catalina from GTA 3, If I remember correctly, He needed the money to move somewhere away from his sh*tty hideout in Angel Pine, and being with Catalina also strengthen his relationship with Cesar. On 7/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: Ok San Fiero now that's where things are gonna get interesting, oh it's RC plane missions now. Just like what GhettoJesus said, those missions aren't required for the storyline, I usually categorize it as side missions like the Trucking mission and the Quarry Mission, you don't have to play them but you need to complete them if you're gonna finish the game 100%. Also San Fierro isn't that bad, I enjoy some missions there like the Wang Cars mission, Woozie's mission, and many more. On 7/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: And you are only gonna find out what's happening with your brother once you get to f*cking Las Venturas. What? I kinda don't understand what you mean by this. Sweet did say he was in a prison hospital in a phone call when CJ was in the countryside. On 7/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: Why is he even doing stuff for Tenpenny? "But if he killed Tenpenny then he would get in trouble" he kills Pulaski in that one mission and nothing significant happened. I believe no one knows Carl Johnson killed Pulaski, In fact, no one even knows that Pulaski and Hernandez, are dead. They were in the middle of the desert when that happened. On 7/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: Like I can understand doing stuff for Toreno because he has influence in what happens to his brother, but why does he care about Tenpenny? Just blow the mf's brains out. The Toreno Arc is quite confusing for me. So correct me if I'm wrong but can he really trust Toreno enough to take the risk of killing Tenpenny? Like Carl just tried to kill him a few missions ago, It's not like Toreno is just gonna do whatever Carl asked him to do. Also, remember how Tenpenny framed CJ for the death of Officer Pendelbury? If he killed Tenpenny, members of the CRASH can just turn in the evidence of CJ killing Pendelbury, and Tenpenny would look like a hero who risked his life to show that CJ had killed Pendelbury. On 7/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: Not to mention CJ's personality is inconsistent, one moment he is a good guy that does anything he is asked the next he massacres construction workers because some of them said some bad stuff about his sister. Well this one has been talked about a lot, I agree that what CJ did was dumb but he was just so pissed and angry at the moment, I mean he just got scammed by his brother in law's cousin, but his actions are still wrong. On 7/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: Also how the hell does a street gangster invade a f*cking military base and steals a jet? What? LOL, as I said, the game is focused on how fun the missions are. He did take his flying lessons so I guess we can all safely assume that he can fly a jet. I mean I think the same can be said about Tommy in the mission "Sir! Yes Sir!". On 7/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: Can someone genuinely explain to me why CJ and San Andreas story are praised so much? I don't think so? People usually praise SA for having too much features for a game released in 2004. They praise Carl and the characters for having such memorable lines like the "Big Smoke's Order" and the meme which was the "Ah sh*t, here we go again". But In my opinion on why SA's story is praised, is because unlike other GTA games, it is partially based on a real life event that happened in Los Angeles in the 1990s. The Artist, iSignUpEveryGTA and JetNormalGuy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Monke Posted July 28 Author Share Posted July 28 On 7/27/2022 at 5:10 PM, Carl Theft Kumar said: I mean I think the same can be said about Tommy in the mission "Sir! Yes Sir!". I mean Tommy joined the Forellis probably at a very young age and was quite experienced + the tank was in the middle of the street not in a military base. Meanwhile if I am not mistaking CJ's only experience was stealing some cars for Joey and he managed to somehow evade all security in the literal area 69 On 7/27/2022 at 5:10 PM, Carl Theft Kumar said: I don't think so? People usually praise SA for having too much features for a game released in 2004. They praise Carl and the characters for having such memorable lines like the "Big Smoke's Order" and the meme which was the "Ah sh*t, here we go again". But In my opinion on why SA's story is praised, is because unlike other GTA games, it is partially based on a real life event that happened in Los Angeles in the 1990s. Really? I have seen many people say that it had the best story or that CJ was the best written protagonist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 (edited) To give CJ credit he was a bit ahead of the curve in terms of character that even protagonists from similar types of games were lacking at the time. He was the first protagonist to really show another side of his personality instead of being primarily 1 dimensional like Claude and Tommy. I used to really hate CJ because his fanboys were so easy to rile up, but over time I kind of realise that was just ignorance on my part. Certainly not my favourite protagonist, but I wouldn’t call him overrated anymore. Edited August 5 by Algonquin Assassin SanFierroTriad, Carl Theft Kumar, AkshayKumar and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Monke Posted August 5 Author Share Posted August 5 44 minutes ago, Algonquin Assassin said: To give CJ credit he was a bit ahead of the curve in terms of character that even protagonists from similar types of games were lacking at the time. He was the first protagonist to really show another side of his personality instead of being primarily 1 dimensional like Claude and Tommy. I used to really hate CJ because his fanboys were so easy to rile up, but over time I kind of realise that was just ignorance on my part. Certainly not my favourite protagonist, but I wouldn’t call him overrated anymore. How was Tommy one dimensional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Comrade Monke said: How was Tommy one dimensional? It’s not necessarily a bad thing, but Tommy never really showed another side of his personality where he wasn’t intimidating someone or only interested in business. There was a brief moment of reminiscence with Earnest Kelly when he was thinking about his dad working at a print works back in the day, but that’s as far as it really got. Another way of saying it is Tommy didn’t have any immediate family or close friends to bring out a more “human” side to him like CJ and co would adopt later on. Edited August 5 by Algonquin Assassin AkshayKumar and SanFierroTriad 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Monke Posted August 5 Author Share Posted August 5 11 minutes ago, Algonquin Assassin said: It’s not necessarily a bad thing, but Tommy never really showed another side of his personality where he wasn’t intimidating someone or only interested in business. There was a brief moment of reminiscence with Earnest Kelly when he was thinking about his dad working at a print works back in the day, but that’s as far as it really got. I mean that wasn't the only time where he showed other sides of his personality, he showed genuine concern about Lance and treated him as an equal until Lance f*cked him over, he also showed care for some of his friends such as Cortez, and seemed genuinely hurt (mentally and physically) during the final cutscene of "keep your friends close" where he sits on the staircase thinking about the bloodshed he just caused. He is also implied to have sympathy towards kids. Personally I have also interpreted his comment on the Vietnam war ("I was locked up during 'nam, Ugly business") and his mocking comments during "the shootist" (fly shooting real popular in the army? Glad I don't pay tax!) as showing that he dislikes war 11 minutes ago, Algonquin Assassin said: Another way of saying it is Tommy didn’t have any immediate family or close friends to bring out a more “human” side to him like CJ and co would adopt later on. Yeah his family should have been explored more no disagreement here. Algonquin Assassin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In45do Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 From storyline perspective, then yes he's pretty much unrealistic. Toreno met CJ, a random dude who happens want to kill him in the first place, and then immediately hired him to do his dirty job. CJ survived Black Project mission where he literally had to fight dozens of armies just for a single jetpack. He's also capable of opening the door of a moving jet while he's still in the air in the Freefall mission. BUT those unrealistic parts, even though they don't make sense, they are actually very fun to play with. We had a chance to explore the game not just from a gangster perspective, but also from conspiracy theorists like The Truth, property business (RC & garage missions), a spy agent, triads & mafia (bank heist missions), and even about rap career. iiCriminnaaL, Official General, E Revere and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grov71 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 GTA san andreas is the type of game people get nostalgic over. the story is a mess but the mechanics and gameplay part is very well done. If only it had a story that made sense it would have been my favorite gta game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 SA was at some point supposed to have multiple protagonists (an idea further explored in IV+EFLC and V) but the technology wasn't quite there yet, so they kinda had to fit many different roles/personalities into a single character. As a consequence, SA's story is the way it is, but I don't really mind that much as long as the mission gameplay is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Monke Posted August 6 Author Share Posted August 6 13 minutes ago, ejoty said: SA was at some point supposed to have multiple protagonists (an idea further explored in IV+EFLC and V) but the technology wasn't quite there yet, so they kinda had to fit many different roles/personalities into a single character. As a consequence, SA's story is the way it is, but I don't really mind that much as long as the mission gameplay is fun. I have always wondered, were the protagonists gonna be people we saw before (Claude Speed for San Fiero, Tommy Vercetti for Las Venturas) or original characters? Maybe THAT was gonna be Tommy's role if Rockstar didn't mistreat Ray (like all their voice actors) causing him to leave. Man would be so cool if we could have Tommy and Claude meet each other and Tommy and Claude always choosing violent solutions while CJ tries to convince them to take a more sane route. That would be so cool for a new GTA installment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James781 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 It seems to me that CJ is an overrated character precisely because of the game. More precisely because of its popularity. This is now a gaming classic. A game that has almost no haters. Everyone loves it, including the main character. As a person, he is far from an angel, but in terms of style and culture, he fits perfectly into the game picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Official General Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 (edited) Sh*t I've not posted on these forums in such a long time, still here lurking though....well on topic Not sure how to answer this because CJ as a character was never highly rated in the first place. It's the whole SA package that has been highly praised and classed as legendary, not CJ himself. To add to that, the 3D era of GTA was not designed to have more in-depth characters - that started off with GTA IV. The emphasis of character depth and development in GTA was not that important during San Andrea's time. Edited August 25 by Official General JetNormalGuy and santosvagos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetNormalGuy Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 When was the last time you played GTA SA by any chance? On 7/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: He is annoying as f*ck. Half of the cutscenes consist of him complaining, a task is then explained to him, then he complains again, but still does it anyway for some reason. 60% of the missions in this game consist of random tasks, completely unrelated to the story. Like seriously, this game is so good up until you get kicked out of Los Santos, after that the game's story is actual hell. Oh my brother He only complains in the first half of the game where he's more or less unexperienced, there is a big difference between CJ who's fresh off the airport trying to gain back the gang's respect and the CJ who's calling shots and planning to rob a Mafia Casino, and the only time he complains in the latter part of the game is when he's asked to pull off near-impossible sh*t like Toreno missions which is just an average reaction to being asked to go on suicidal missions sand not being sure wether or not you're coming back, you're talking like CJ is the only protagonist in the series that pulls off crazy sh*t during the story line, so im gonna ask you this. Do you know what game franchise you're playing? its GTA what did you expect, its the game where every single protagonist in it is a walking local extinction event that can easily take over a small country if given enough ammo and a little money to motivate him. Claude, Tommy, CJ, Niko, and the rest oof the protagonists are always put in some really far fetched situation with every single odd stacked against them but they all somehow survive, crazy right? On 7/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: now Carl is arrested, can't wait to see what happens nex- ok now I am killing a random guy and taking a picture of his body... Then I do some robberies with that bitch Catalina from GTA 3, oh there's Claude, I bet CJ's interactions will be coo- oh now they are leaving for LC. Ok San Fiero now that's where things are gonna get interesting, oh it's RC plane missions now... And you are only gonna find out what's happening with your brother once you get to f*cking Las Venturas. All over the place story accompanied by CJ complaining and doing literally anything they tell him. Why is he even doing stuff for Tenpenny? "But if he killed Tenpenny then he would get in trouble" he kills Pulaski in that one mission and nothing significant happened... Like I can understand doing stuff for Toreno because he has influence in what happens to his brother, but why does he care about Tenpenny? Just blow the mf's brains out. Not to mention CJ's personality is inconsistent, one moment he is a good guy that does anything he is asked the next he massacres construction workers because some of them said some bad stuff about his sister. Also how the hell does a street gangster invade a f*cking military base and steals a jet? What? Are you skipping the cutscenes? you say you're killing and photographing a random guy but five minutes ago Tenpenny and pulaski were DIRECTLY explaining to CJ who he is and why they need him dead, why do you think there are federal agents protecting a random guy in the woods? The robberies with Catalina are also explained in a cutscene, Tenpenny tells The Truth that CJ is gonna be paying him for all the weed he's gonna need later to ruin the DA's career in San Fierro who also is causing problems for Tenpenny, didn't you notice during all the robberies how CJ tells Catalina that he's in deep sh*t and he needs money fast? i guess not. Claude is a cameo and a cool way to create a link between the GTA games, how do you want CJ to interact with a mute guy, sign language? he already insults him a couple of time, thats enough interaction with him. Zero's missions are optional, funny how you think its ridiculous and out of place to be driving toy planes but Tommy does the exact same thing in Vice City for Avery, but that gets a pass cuz its Tommy and he's so cool and badass. Tenpenny already explained what happened to Sweet, and even then Sweet calls you during San Fierro, and he's doing sh*t for Tenpenny because he's powerful enough to ruin his life and get everyone he knew killed in a single phone call, he only kills Pulaski because in that mission, Tenpenny's dealings with CJ are officially done, CJ did everything for him and now he wants to get rid of Carl, so CJ no longer has anything to lose because he knows that no matter if he dies or is lives it won't change anything, add to that Toreno's promise to CJ that Sweet is being looked after and voila, a reason to go after C.R.A.S.H On 7/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: It's such a downgrade from the previous protagonist, Tommy was the perfect character for this type of game, he took no sh*t from anyone but was also loyal and kind to those that helped him. The same Tommy who went on a murderous rampage in the City just to impress a biker? the same Tommy who confronted a military convoy and stole a tank in broad daylight on his own for a measly pay? Tommy is just Claude with a voice for most of the game except in some really rare moments like being betrayed by Lance and taking on Sonny. Tommy was the perfect character for a GTA game because the perfect character for a GTA game is simple to create, someone who commits crime. San Andreas was the first game where the developers tried to do something with the protagonist, and for a first time they did pretty good, adn they perfected their recipe in GTA IV with Niko. On 7/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: Can someone genuinely explain to me why CJ and San Andreas story are praised so much? I genuinely am not trying to cause a fight or be antagonistic I am curious why it's praised so much. people like CJ and the San Andreas story just because they enjoyed the San Andreas experience and everything they introduced in that game, it sounds stupid but it is what it is, there isn't much to it. Different people have different tastes, theres nothing wrong with prefering another GTA, but San Andreas was the game that most people enjoyed, thats it. Algonquin Assassin, AkshayKumar, Carl Theft Kumar and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Monke Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 21 minutes ago, JetNormalGuy said: When was the last time you played GTA SA by any chance? He only complains in the first half of the game where he's more or less unexperienced, there is a big difference between CJ who's fresh off the airport trying to gain back the gang's respect and the CJ who's calling shots and planning to rob a Mafia Casino, and the only time he complains in the latter part of the game is when he's asked to pull off near-impossible sh*t like Toreno missions which is just an average reaction to being asked to go on suicidal missions sand not being sure wether or not you're coming back, you're talking like CJ is the only protagonist in the series that pulls off crazy sh*t during the story line, so im gonna ask you this. Do you know what game franchise you're playing? its GTA what did you expect, its the game where every single protagonist in it is a walking local extinction event that can easily take over a small country if given enough ammo and a little money to motivate him. Claude, Tommy, CJ, Niko, and the rest oof the protagonists are always put in some really far fetched situation with every single odd stacked against them but they all somehow survive, crazy right? Are you skipping the cutscenes? you say you're killing and photographing a random guy but five minutes ago Tenpenny and pulaski were DIRECTLY explaining to CJ who he is and why they need him dead, why do you think there are federal agents protecting a random guy in the woods? The robberies with Catalina are also explained in a cutscene, Tenpenny tells The Truth that CJ is gonna be paying him for all the weed he's gonna need later to ruin the DA's career in San Fierro who also is causing problems for Tenpenny, didn't you notice during all the robberies how CJ tells Catalina that he's in deep sh*t and he needs money fast? i guess not. Claude is a cameo and a cool way to create a link between the GTA games, how do you want CJ to interact with a mute guy, sign language? he already insults him a couple of time, thats enough interaction with him. Zero's missions are optional, funny how you think its ridiculous and out of place to be driving toy planes but Tommy does the exact same thing in Vice City for Avery, but that gets a pass cuz its Tommy and he's so cool and badass. Tenpenny already explained what happened to Sweet, and even then Sweet calls you during San Fierro, and he's doing sh*t for Tenpenny because he's powerful enough to ruin his life and get everyone he knew killed in a single phone call, he only kills Pulaski because in that mission, Tenpenny's dealings with CJ are officially done, CJ did everything for him and now he wants to get rid of Carl, so CJ no longer has anything to lose because he knows that no matter if he dies or is lives it won't change anything, add to that Toreno's promise to CJ that Sweet is being looked after and voila, a reason to go after C.R.A.S.H The same Tommy who went on a murderous rampage in the City just to impress a biker? the same Tommy who confronted a military convoy and stole a tank in broad daylight on his own for a measly pay? Tommy is just Claude with a voice for most of the game except in some really rare moments like being betrayed by Lance and taking on Sonny. Tommy was the perfect character for a GTA game because the perfect character for a GTA game is simple to create, someone who commits crime. San Andreas was the first game where the developers tried to do something with the protagonist, and for a first time they did pretty good, adn they perfected their recipe in GTA IV with Niko. people like CJ and the San Andreas story just because they enjoyed the San Andreas experience and everything they introduced in that game, it sounds stupid but it is what it is, there isn't much to it. Different people have different tastes, theres nothing wrong with prefering another GTA, but San Andreas was the game that most people enjoyed, thats it. L + wall of text Carl Theft Kumar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetNormalGuy Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 hour ago, Comrade Monke said: L + wall of text gee thanks AkshayKumar and Carl Theft Kumar 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmanCan Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 (edited) On 7/25/2022 at 6:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: He is annoying as f*ck. and greedy son of a *itch too but it's actually perfect/suitable for this game because of skills. CJ was so useless at the beginning because he needed to improve himself by gaining skills and muscles.. At first he immediately looked for a money right after the green sabre (I think the money was for Sweet's release) but after that he became greedy maaf*cker and forgot his purpose even though he says "I'm getting sh*t worked out for you just hang in there" On 7/25/2022 at 6:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: Tommy was the perfect character for this type of game He also sold his soul for the money He could pay Sonny his money in a normal way but he chose to be a greedy Edited August 25 by ArmanCan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown8361 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 On 7/25/2022 at 6:55 PM, Comrade Monke said: 60% of the missions in this game consist of random tasks, completely unrelated to the story. Everything has a reason. Nothing is unrelated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Monke Posted August 26 Author Share Posted August 26 1 hour ago, RealUnknown836 said: Everything has a reason. Nothing is unrelated. Ah yes that one mission where you massacre a bunch of construction workers is definitely necessary for the story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown8361 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 13 minutes ago, Comrade Monke said: Ah yes that one mission where you massacre a bunch of construction workers is definitely necessary for the story... forgot about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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