The end of gta online (gta 5 ver)

[Guest]

15 hours ago, Yinepi said:

This has to be the most faultiest logic I have ever seen. Companies usually don't call their first product with a "1" and yet sequels after sequels are made eventually using numbers to differentiate the later titles from the former ones. For example GTA1 isn't called "Grand Theft Auto 1" on the box, it's simply "Grand Theft Auto" and yet here we are some odd 20+ years later with a Grand Theft Auto V (5) out and eventually a VI (6) in the future.

And don't you dare be as dense as to think there will not eventually be a GTAO2 considering the popularity and financial success of the current one.

It only seems faulty because the point went over your head and since Commandor wants to slip in his comment we now have two smartasses who completely missed the point.  If you're gonna start a fire fight dont use strawmen.  Disprove my point which is there cant be an Online "2" if R* themselves dont consider Online as the "first" product.  By your logic shouldnt the current Online already be called GTAO2 since GTA 4 had an online mode?  hmmm  The fact is R* stated themselves that Online is one universe that will evolve not a city and thats why they named it GTA Online and not GTA V Online but I guess I'll be dense for not accepting your made up names.  lol  You 's honk your noses for me.  lmao

Edited July 28 by BumpyJohnson

[JairoDM]

As has already been said, I would like to see an event occur that forces us to leave Los Santos, leaving our businesses behind and heading for the new city with some money and a vehicle, hoping to get ahead no matter what.

[Teorhus]

6 hours ago, JairoDM said:

As has already been said, I would like to see an event occur that forces us to leave Los Santos, leaving our businesses behind and heading for the new city with some money and a vehicle, hoping to get ahead no matter what.

That'd be nice!

8 hours ago, BumpyJohnson said:

It only seems faulty because the point went over your head and since Commandor wants to slip in his comment we now have two smartasses who completely missed the point.  If you're gonna start a fire fight dont use strawmen.  Disprove my point which is there cant be an Online "2" if R* themselves dont consider Online as the "first" product.  By your logic shouldnt the current Online already be called GTAO2 since GTA 4 had an online mode?  hmmm  The fact is R* stated themselves that Online is one universe that will evolve not a city and thats why they named it GTA Online and not GTA V Online but I guess I'll be dense for not accepting your made up names.  lol  You 's honk your noses for me.  lmao

Pardon me a sec

 

They're gonna update the online to a more gta 6 like? They'll do it from the gta 5 version when they shut it down, dont care that you're mad about "gta 5 ver" it exists and we're playing it. Rockstar always uses those words, they're not exactly saying that its one universe, the hd one.

[Commander S]

11 hours ago, BumpyJohnson said:

[...] The fact is R* stated themselves that Online is one universe that will evolve not a city and thats why they named it GTA Online and not GTA V Online [...]

Lol - don't know why you're fixating on the most literal possible definition of "universe", instead of just accepting it as marketing fluff. By that logic, RDO will still get more updates (even though Rockstar just announced they're winding down RDO updates...), because the equivalent description of RDO reads "step into the vibrant, ever-evolving world of Red Dead Online" - and why would they call it a world, and not just towns, if they weren't planning on adding Mexico and other countries?

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Teorhus said:

Pardon me a sec

 

They're gonna update the online to a more gta 6 like? They'll do it from the gta 5 version when they shut it down, dont care that you're mad about "gta 5 ver" it exists and we're playing it. Rockstar always uses those words, they're not exactly saying that its one universe, the hd one.

Wtf?  Im not mad that you call the current online GTA V Online.  YOU are mad that I'm telling you its not accurate.  lol  You are free to call it whatever you want.  You say R* is just using words and doesnt actually mean the current online is one entity but this is just your chosen understanding not fact because R* actually explained themselves in multiple interviews what online is but hey carry on.

 

1 hour ago, Commander S said:

Lol - don't know why you're fixating on the most literal possible definition of "universe", instead of just accepting it as marketing fluff. By that logic, RDO will still get more updates (even though Rockstar just announced they're winding down RDO updates...), because the equivalent description of RDO reads "step into the vibrant, ever-evolving world of Red Dead Online" - and why would they call it a world, and not just towns, if they weren't planning on adding Mexico and other countries?

lol  No it is YOU guys who are fixated on what you "want" to call Online.  "they only said universe for marketing" is nonsense but lets use this logic,  if Online was only for V then whats the marketing stradegy in calling it a universe?  How can one city be a universe?    Couple this with the fact that R* literally explained in interviews that universe means all their cities in one which is the plan for online and it should be clear.   As for RDO,  they used a similar description because clearly they had the same plans for it as GTA Online derp.   GTA is just where its at atm so thats their focus.  winding down the updates for it does not mean they wont return later.  This should be obvious but whatever Im out  We'll see who's right in the end now back to talking about how R* will shut down billion dollar Los santos.   

Edited July 28 by BumpyJohnson

[HamwithCheese]

Christ, its literally going to be 2 games running at the same time, one being updated and one being on end of life. Similar to the Forza games.

[Commander S]

17 minutes ago, HamwithCheese said:

Christ, its literally going to be 2 games running at the same time, one being updated and one being on end of life. Similar to the Forza games.

 

 

Exactly: they'll stop updating this game, but keep it running for however many years, and VI will come with it's own online mode (just called "GTA Online" - no number), and development/updates will be focussed on that newer GTAO exclusively. And also like Forza, we'll have to start over: new character, new cars, no money, and maybe a perk for having existing GTAO save data (like an early XP boost or something).

 

 

1 hour ago, BumpyJohnson said:

 

lol  No it is YOU guys who are fixated on what you "want" to call Online.  "they only said universe for marketing" is nonsense but lets use this logic,  if Online was only for V then whats the marketing stradegy in calling it a universe?  How can one city be a universe?    Couple this with the fact that R* literally explained in interviews that universe means all their cities in one which is the plan for online and it should be clear.   As for RDO,  they used a similar description because clearly they had the same plans for it as GTA Online derp.   GTA is just where its at atm so thats their focus.  winding down the updates for it does not mean they wont return later.  This should be obvious but whatever Im out  We'll see who's right in the end now back to talking about how R* will shut down billion dollar Los santos.   

 

 

"How can one city be a universe?" - my goodness, you're right! In fact, how can one planet be a universe - you need millions of galaxies to make a universe. You heard it here first, folks: GTA VI is basically going to be a rival to No Man's Sky...

 

As for "multiple interviews", you're talking about one pre-launch interview with Les Benzies, where he described his vision for the future of GTAO - and it's worth bearing in mind that in Benzies' lawsuit against Rockstar, he alleged that the Housers had little interest in Online, and that their different views on the future of the series were part of what led to the Housers squeezing him out. Put another way: while Rockstar clearly don't mind that GTAO is effectively a money-printing machine for them, the 'never-ending GTAO world' vision died when Benzies left. Rockstar won't call the next version "GTAO 2", like I say - it'll just be "GTAO" again, to give a vague sense of continuity. But it'll be 'out with the old, in with the new'.

 

Basically, anything notion of this current, increasingly dated version of GTAO somehow getting updated far in to the indefinite future is straight-up hopium - same as the belief that after all these years (and so many, many fake rumours), Rockstar are still going to magically add Liberty City any day now...

[Picadorito]

22 hours ago, Commander S said:

ure of the series were part of what led to the Housers squeezing him out. Put another way: while Rockstar clearly don't mind that GTAO is effectively a money-printing machine for them, the 'never-ending GTAO world' vision died when Benzies left. Rockstar won't call the next version "GTAO 2", like I say - it'll just be "GTAO" again, to give a vague sense of continuity. But it'll be 'out with the old, in with the new'.

 

 

[Teorhus]

On 7/28/2022 at 9:49 PM, BumpyJohnson said:

Wtf?  Im not mad that you call the current online GTA V Online.  YOU are mad that I'm telling you its not accurate.  lol  You are free to call it whatever you want.  You say R* is just using words and doesnt actually mean the current online is one entity but this is just your chosen understanding not fact because R* actually explained themselves in multiple interviews what online is but hey carry on.

 

lol  No it is YOU guys who are fixated on what you "want" to call Online.  "they only said universe for marketing" is nonsense but lets use this logic,  if Online was only for V then whats the marketing stradegy in calling it a universe?  How can one city be a universe?    Couple this with the fact that R* literally explained in interviews that universe means all their cities in one which is the plan for online and it should be clear.   As for RDO,  they used a similar description because clearly they had the same plans for it as GTA Online derp.   GTA is just where its at atm so thats their focus.  winding down the updates for it does not mean they wont return later.  This should be obvious but whatever Im out  We'll see who's right in the end now back to talking about how R* will shut down billion dollar Los santos.   

Sir be quiet please, its already irritating that you speak like this, Gta 5 online and gta 6 online are different, eventually when the gta 5 version is dead (which I've said a couple of times) the gta 6 version is gonna take over that name for a long time. The timeline of gtao is already messed up which that is already a problem, we're just discussing theories over theories in here which might happen.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Teorhus said:

Sir be quiet please, its already irritating that you speak like this, Gta 5 online and gta 6 online are different, eventually when the gta 5 version is dead (which I've said a couple of times) the gta 6 version is gonna take over that name for a long time. The timeline of gtao is already messed up which that is already a problem, we're just discussing theories over theories in here which might happen.

If you want me to be quiet then wtf are you quoting me?  Especially after I already stated Im out.  I clearly already stop posting in here so why you feel the need to say that?  Its also funny that first you guys called it GTA V Online,  GTA 6 Online and even Online 2 and when I said no its just GTA Online you crapped on me.  Now you're both claiming GTA 6 Online will just be called GTA Online.    Once again,  IM OUT!  PLEASE DONT QUOTE ME AGAIN!  Get back to your discussion on how they will shut down billion dollar Los Santos after they optimized it for 3 generations of consoles, gave it a stand-alone version, gave it a E&E upgrade AND most recently a QOL update. 

Edited July 30 by BumpyJohnson

[HamwithCheese]

18 minutes ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Get back to your discussion on how they will shut down billion dollar Los Santos after they optimized it for 3 generations of consoles, gave it a stand-alone version, gave it a E&E upgrade AND most recently a QOL update. 

It's crazy how you think that we all think that despite all of us being different people.

[Commander S]

They won't shut it down, no - remember that even after they stopped updates for the Xbox 360/PS3 version in 2015, they kept it running for a further six years, with Shark Cards still enabled (until September 2021 when they announced the end - and then turned the game itself off in December). So while I don't imagine they were making megabucks from that old version, they still let it sit there, making some extra Shark Card money, from the tiny remnant of players still bothering to play it.

 

And that's more or less what I expect will happen when GTA VI launches, and all development goes towards making new content for that (something I imagine they'll want to do ASAP, rather than have RDO's problem of over half a year before the first update). They'll stop updates for this now decade-old game (built on a version of their engine that'll likely be at least two versions out-of-date by the time of VI), but they'll still keep it running, probably well into the next console generation (possibly to the end of the decade), before winding it up. And by the point where they do finally pull the plug, there'll be barely anyone playing it (just like the 2013 OG version of V), because they'll all be on the new hotness. I expect they'll also keep RDO online well into next-gen (as in, PS6/Xbox Whatever), complete with the ability to still buy Gold Bars - depends on that microtransaction money dips below the point where RDO makes less than enough to justify the expense of keeping it running.

[Teorhus]

On 7/30/2022 at 11:08 PM, BumpyJohnson said:

If you want me to be quiet then wtf are you quoting me?  Especially after I already stated Im out.  I clearly already stop posting in here so why you feel the need to say that?  Its also funny that first you guys called it GTA V Online,  GTA 6 Online and even Online 2 and when I said no its just GTA Online you crapped on me.  Now you're both claiming GTA 6 Online will just be called GTA Online.    Once again,  IM OUT!  PLEASE DONT QUOTE ME AGAIN!  Get back to your discussion on how they will shut down billion dollar Los Santos after they optimized it for 3 generations of consoles, gave it a stand-alone version, gave it a E&E upgrade AND most recently a QOL update. 

This is the last quoting at ya, being negative and shi, just theories that don't happen, our theories, THATS WHAT THEORIES ARE FOR! We done for this argument so goodbye

[Buddy Hightower]

There is zero chance that they kill the cash cow.

GTAO isn't getting shut down when GTA6 comes out - if anything, it will get expanded.

[Rockford Hills]

Why is everyone rushing GTA6? That’s all this is. People, GTA6 will not meet your expectations! I predict when it does come out, it’s gonna be a total ish-show. Look at GTA Online now. You think GTA6 is gonna be better? It’ll be a new game with the same issues. 

[Rotorhead359]

Seeing how they released RDR2 Online with STILL the same insecure Peer-to-Peer multiplayer, I can only have low expectations for GTA VI. And even with my low expectations, it will probably manage to disappoint me.

RDR2 Online was their opportunity to implement multiplayer properly and they didn't. Same basic security issues as GTA V Online.

Edited August 3 by Rotorhead359

[Black-Dragon96]

Honestly I can see them expanding gta online whenever the next gta comes out. As in, people who own both games will be able to travel in between both places by simply walking into an airport.

[billsyliam]

13 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

Honestly I can see them expanding gta online whenever the next gta comes out. As in, people who own both games will be able to travel in between both places by simply walking into an airport.

That wouldn’t work as the next GTA title will be on a different version of RAGE

Edited August 3 by billsyliam

[Teorhus]

19 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

Honestly I can see them expanding gta online whenever the next gta comes out. As in, people who own both games will be able to travel in between both places by simply walking into an airport.

I mean, come on, our online character has been thru alot in these year, it wouldn't work out that much as
1. The version and the code is different (technical problem)
2. it wouldn't make sense lore wise as it would be like "many years has passed on the legacy" i'd like to just start off zero BUT! not like instant, they manage the both versions, gta online (gta 5 ver) and gta online (gta 6 ver), some bonuses might be cool ig

[Schuimpruim]

Here's another ending: Our whole online game revolves around Jimmy playing the game in his room - His mom comes in, pulls out the powercable of the tv and tells him to do chores around the house - The end.

[Jamwes]

You know how Trevor's introduction is killing Johnny? I'd like to see something like that. R* asks to link accounts and "port over character" to give you some sort of bonus. (Something small, like a shirt or car.) Then the tutorial mission involves our new character killing an NPC that happens to look a lot like our old character that we ported over.

[Black-Dragon96]

2 hours ago, billsyliam said:

That wouldn’t work as the next GTA title will be on a different version of RAGE

 

Well that depends on how they do it and how compatibel things are.

 

2 hours ago, Teorhus said:

I mean, come on, our online character has been thru alot in these year, it wouldn't work out that much as
1. The version and the code is different (technical problem)
2. it wouldn't make sense lore wise as it would be like "many years has passed on the legacy" i'd like to just start off zero BUT! not like instant, they manage the both versions, gta online (gta 5 ver) and gta online (gta 6 ver), some bonuses might be cool ig

 

Well we wouldnt start from zero. We could transfersonethinglike 1 Million of our current wealth to the new city. Lore wise that could be explained with that any higher amount would tip of the feds. Same with our vehicles.

We could still access everything we own in LS when going there, but in the new place we would have to build a new empire.

[Spider-Vice]

Imagine all the new people buying GTA VI/Online day one and there already being a sh*t ton of people with millions, or access to all apartments and vehicles, etc. I'm almost 100% sure everyone's getting "reset", it's gonna be considered a new game - new characters, new life, new world.

 

From the new GTA Online onwards however, I can see it becoming an actual "permanent" game as a service and with future content, perhaps even content from future games, added to it - I'm sure it'll be designed much better than the current GTAO ever was. The current GTAO structure and tech just is not ready for anything like that.

[HamwithCheese]

As someone who just started all over on the PS4, it's time to start all over. We all got our money's worth with 5, it's time for some brand new.

[dieseltech20]

For the end of games life I want the character to finally get the respect they deserve. No more being a mistreated errand runner or anyones little bitch that they can push around. 
 

Give me a cutscene of LJT being force fed his own tongue while his fingers are cut off and his phone is shoved up his ass. After that it’s time to rid the world of what up doe and his mouthy bitch.  Ron and all the others will follow suit. 
 

It all ends with a trip to the agency where our character is sitting back in their chair with a fat cigar in their mouth. Feet propped up on the desk wearing those light up shoes they removed from the bloated corpse of Lazlow. All of the heads from the phone contacts neatly lined up along the wall behind them. 
 

Chop is at the foot of the desk waiting for his belly rub. 

[El Cavilldo]

37 minutes ago, dieseltech20 said:

For the end of games life I want the character to finally get the respect they deserve. No more being a mistreated errand runner or anyones little bitch that they can push around. 
 

Give me a cutscene of LJT being force fed his own tongue while his fingers are cut off and his phone is shoved up his ass. After that it’s time to rid the world of what up doe and his mouthy bitch.  Ron and all the others will follow suit. 
 

It all ends with a trip to the agency where our character is sitting back in their chair with a fat cigar in their mouth. Feet propped up on the desk wearing those light up shoes they removed from the bloated corpse of Lazlow. All of the heads from the phone contacts neatly lined up along the wall behind them. 
 

Chop is at the foot of the desk waiting for his belly rub. 

 

I understood that reference! 

[Teorhus]

1 hour ago, dieseltech20 said:

For the end of games life I want the character to finally get the respect they deserve. No more being a mistreated errand runner or anyones little bitch that they can push around. 
 

Give me a cutscene of LJT being force fed his own tongue while his fingers are cut off and his phone is shoved up his ass. After that it’s time to rid the world of what up doe and his mouthy bitch.  Ron and all the others will follow suit. 
 

It all ends with a trip to the agency where our character is sitting back in their chair with a fat cigar in their mouth. Feet propped up on the desk wearing those light up shoes they removed from the bloated corpse of Lazlow. All of the heads from the phone contacts neatly lined up along the wall behind them. 
 

Chop is at the foot of the desk waiting for his belly rub. 

Hahaha! Absolutely love this one!

[Commander S]

On 8/4/2022 at 12:58 AM, Spider-Vice said:

Imagine all the new people buying GTA VI/Online day one and there already being a sh*t ton of people with millions, or access to all apartments and vehicles, etc. I'm almost 100% sure everyone's getting "reset", it's gonna be considered a new game - new characters, new life, new world.

 

From the new GTA Online onwards however, I can see it becoming an actual "permanent" game as a service and with future content, perhaps even content from future games, added to it - I'm sure it'll be designed much better than the current GTAO ever was. The current GTAO structure and tech just is not ready for anything like that.

 

 

At the very least, think of how much better a new game's going to be with the benefit of almost a decade's worth of hindsight. For instance, it's pretty obvious how both the game and the map weren't designed with most of the stuff like Freemode businesses in mind (compared to how Pac Standard had a full interior only used for GTAO) - not to mention how some of the earlier businesses clearly weren't designed to incorporate the later businesses! Imagine Rockstar going back to the drawing board and creating the GTA VI map and GTAO underpinnings with all the now-standard post-Heists features baked in from the get-go - you can forgive the messy, 'updates stacked on top of updates' nature of current GTAO, because they clearly didn't expect GTAO to blow up in the way it did or sustain that momentum this long. But still, a more deliberately-planned take on the format will definitely fee like a marked improvement - it's the sort of thing I don't think people are going to appreciate until they actually play it.

 

As for map expansion, the recent reports about GTA VI, and scaling back the ambitious multi-location plans to something more manageable for launch, might actually present the most likely and realistic framework for adding locations to (the next) GTAO. As in, if they'd actually started designing the maps for those extra locations, and just put them on the indefinite back-burner to focus on the base game (but with the necessary structures built into the game to potentially add them back in), then I could see Rockstar using GTAO as a way of reviving at least some of that original scope, if not all of it. I expect they'll also make them fully-separate maps, more like things like Forza Horizon's map expansions (where they're entirely distinct maps, right down to having unique lighting and skyboxes), rather than doing the GTA V thing of just loading in the smaller locations off to the side of the San Andreas main island (which is one of the big barriers to ever adding a full-sized new map to current GTAO). Doing it that way would mean a much bigger install size compared to even RDR2 - but with the new generation of consoles, you've got the advantages of more powerful hardware, more storage as standard, and much faster loading times, too, all of which would make it more possible for GTA VI to contain multiple full maps (and the ability to travel between them with relatively little friction).

[Teorhus]

1 hour ago, Commander S said:

 

 

At the very least, think of how much better a new game's going to be with the benefit of almost a decade's worth of hindsight. For instance, it's pretty obvious how both the game and the map weren't designed with most of the stuff like Freemode businesses in mind (compared to how Pac Standard had a full interior only used for GTAO) - not to mention how some of the earlier businesses clearly weren't designed to incorporate the later businesses! Imagine Rockstar going back to the drawing board and creating the GTA VI map and GTAO underpinnings with all the now-standard post-Heists features baked in from the get-go - you can forgive the messy, 'updates stacked on top of updates' nature of current GTAO, because they clearly didn't expect GTAO to blow up in the way it did or sustain that momentum this long. But still, a more deliberately-planned take on the format will definitely fee like a marked improvement - it's the sort of thing I don't think people are going to appreciate until they actually play it.

 

As for map expansion, the recent reports about GTA VI, and scaling back the ambitious multi-location plans to something more manageable for launch, might actually present the most likely and realistic framework for adding locations to (the next) GTAO. As in, if they'd actually started designing the maps for those extra locations, and just put them on the indefinite back-burner to focus on the base game (but with the necessary structures built into the game to potentially add them back in), then I could see Rockstar using GTAO as a way of reviving at least some of that original scope, if not all of it. I expect they'll also make them fully-separate maps, more like things like Forza Horizon's map expansions (where they're entirely distinct maps, right down to having unique lighting and skyboxes), rather than doing the GTA V thing of just loading in the smaller locations off to the side of the San Andreas main island (which is one of the big barriers to ever adding a full-sized new map to current GTAO). Doing it that way would mean a much bigger install size compared to even RDR2 - but with the new generation of consoles, you've got the advantages of more powerful hardware, more storage as standard, and much faster loading times, too, all of which would make it more possible for GTA VI to contain multiple full maps (and the ability to travel between them with relatively little friction).

Very much true, might happen or not, considering even this almost 10 year old game can eat these dlcs upon dlcs, which even the ps4 version and xbox one ver of the game can handle almost 20 fps on a lobby, gtao dlcs have an history on them (some i guess) and some are basically reused old content to adapt on this gtao style, like sp dlcs that were never confirmed and the only source is the code lmao.

 

Hopefully, which ever plans they're thinking, they make it good.

[HamwithCheese]

Say what you will about r* but their single player stuff is top notch and really polished, and that stuff carries right over into online. Your character animations, how they traverse land, stairs, water, slopes, you know that stuff is what makes the game age so slowly. A lot of mmos and RPGs don't have that kind of polish, and I'm very looking forward whatever improvements the foundation of the next game will have that makes the next online that more immersive. Maybe our characters will have a voice or more comprehensive customization. Maybe all cars will have custom interior options or wheel dimensions.

 

 

Flip side, I'm also afraid how they'll ruin it with predatory monetization tricks.