Upcoming Improvements to the GTA Online Experience

[MaddenedGhost]

54 minutes ago, GAUNTLET HELLFIRE said:

That would have screwed over anyone that doesn't play anything but Cayo. Some people play Cayo a couple of times a week to top up their bank ready for the next DLC but nerfing the pay would make them have to do the same thing even more times for the same money. 

You are forgetting that people making money easily isn't good for Rockstar from a business perspective, a nerf/change to Cayo was inevitable, so we are here talking about the better compromise.

 

Whenever people discuss this topic they should always keep in mind that Rockstar's monetization is part of the equation and it is very surprising that it took them this long to change Cayo Perico.

[hyperar]

 So much wasted time, the game would be so different if theses where done properly since the beginning. Kudos i guess

[Tylarious]

19 hours ago, Tez2 said:

 

		func_1679(9508, (NETWORK::GET_CLOUD_TIME_AS_INT() + Global_262145.f_29565), -1, 1, 0); //H4_COOLDOWN Stat - Tunable Value: 600 seconds (10 mins)
		func_1679(9509, (NETWORK::GET_CLOUD_TIME_AS_INT() + Global_262145.f_29566), -1, 1, 0); //H4_COOLDOWN_HARD Stat - Tunable Value: 3600 seconds (1 hour)

 

This is how hard mode currently works for Cayo Perico Heist.

 

Rockstar will adjust the basic cooldown from 10 minutes up to to 48 minutes. And assuming Rockstar simply adjusts the hard mode cooldown to keep up with the new changes without altering much, then it should be one hour and 48 minutes.

So will players be able to purchase hard mode once they get the call from pavel after ten minutes like now and have a 48 minute grace period to purchase hard mode.... Or will players need to wait 1 hour to purchase hardmode and then have a 48 minute grace period? or vice versa on the latter - wait 48 minutes to purchase and then have a 1 hour grace period before it resets to normal mode? Just trying to get clarification, thanks

[GeneralDee]

4 hours ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

Except it will now take the entire week and leave barely any time to do other stuff, that you cant even do if you dont have the money in the first place.

I think thats what a lot of veterans here are missing because they have all the funds they need. A new player cant diversify the content he plays because he doesnt have the funds to buy a fancy new agancy/warehouse/whatever.

 

I remember when I was new and had very little money and saved up for the Kosatka. Once I got the sub and all upgrades, because I was new to Cayo, I did EVERY settup mission including the disruption ones. That took me north of 2 and a half hours each Cayo session which sometimes stretched out for days as I was learning how to navigate. Once I had like weeks of success finishing I slowly took off the training wheels (disruption missions and cutting powder). New players are far less likely to be running through Cayo Perico in 48 minutes. 

 

Edit: Also would like to add again....even with tequila, and some secondary loot, you are bringing home over 1 million per heist. The only reason to be really angry is if they nerfed the payouts which didn't happen.

Edited July 23, 2022 by GeneralDee

[Big Molio]

3 hours ago, RyuNova said:

 

Why are people ignoring the fact that you can now do all your major businesses in Invite Only, at your own leisure, away from all the flying sh*ts? Because they don't care, they don't want to do the other businesses because they are lazy, they want their super easy Cayo. If Cayo becoming a little harder pushes you away from the game then you didn't enjoy the game in the first place and should have stepped away months ago.

 

The business elements of this game are just one facet of it and, for me anyway, they are tedious as hell so I don't do them. Cayo Perico grinding then for many solo players is a Godsend. Restricting the replay of the heist does not make those businesses any more appealing to me, even by now allowing them in an Invite Only session.

[Super Grunt 281]

They say that the Cayo Perico heist is the best money maker, it's not for nothing.

 

Basically to drag it down to the Diamond Casino heist level except it's waiting time not prep.

Edited July 23, 2022 by Super Grunt 281

[KiwikindUK]

We can finally sell in invite-only lobbies. Fantastic. But I wonder if this means we can also source crates, do resupply missions/buy supplies etc. It seems pointless forcing us into public lobbies just to do these things, low risk tasks, if we can then switch out to a safe lobby to shift the product later.

 

Also I wonder what the default snack type and armour type will be for the quick use button from the weapon wheel. 

[TinyRakan]

Why people are complaining about cayo nerf ? Is it only 2.5 hours of waiting? Or I’m missing something

[Smart speculation1]

4 minutes ago, TinyRakan said:

Why people are complaining about cayo nerf ? Is it only 2.5 hours of waiting? Or I’m missing something

Chances of getting high value primary target is reduced for 72 hours after completion 

[Spider-Vice]

6 minutes ago, KiwikindUK said:

But I wonder if this means we can also source crates

Yup, it's in the article.

 

[RaigeGames]

8 minutes ago, KiwikindUK said:

We can finally sell in invite-only lobbies. Fantastic. But I wonder if this means we can also source crates, do resupply missions/buy supplies etc. It seems pointless forcing us into public lobbies just to do these things, low risk tasks, if we can then switch out to a safe lobby to shift the product later.

 

Also I wonder what the default snack type and armour type will be for the quick use button from the weapon wheel. 

 

The newswire said all business activities, including both sourcing and selling 

[Tez2]

1 hour ago, Tylarious said:

wait 48 minutes to purchase and then have a 1 hour grace period before it resets to normal mode?

This.

 

But keep in mind, that's for playthroughs with groups. Solo playthroughs should take more.

[KiwikindUK]

Doh - time to upgrade my glasses prescription it seems.

 

Cheers gang.

[Crateman]

10 hours ago, Nerfgoth said:

Did they forget Arena Wars?

Unless it's a Hidden surprise...missed opportunity to add vip jobs with arena war vehicles or add missions with bryony or al jerome similar to ms baker to get AP points in free roam, maybe they buff AP points obtained in arena wars modes but that is yet to be seen...

[Scott Stapp]

Grinding is lame and boring. How about cutting down on the spam altogether instead of allowing us to hang up? Or maybe just getting rid of those garbage missions or replacing them?

[Tylarious]

16 minutes ago, Tez2 said:

This.

 

But keep in mind, that's for playthroughs with groups. Solo playthroughs should take more.

Damn so solo players will have to wait for 144 minutes just to purchase the next hard mode? is that right? you gotta stay on the game for an extra almost 2.5 hours just to ensure you get hard mode for the next cayo heist? 

 

I would have figured They player would get the call after 10 minutes go buy the hard mode heist then have a timer like in the casino for the wheel but inside the kosatka letting you know when its time for that next heist to be ran. perfect world i guess

[Spear97]

Here is providing Rockstar stick to those percentages, the rough estimations for every heist finale payout receiving an update on July 26th

[Mexicola9302]

We can own so many cars already, no idea why some ppl need even more space.

 

Maybe ppl shouldn't buy so many duplicates, then it's more than enough to get a really really big collection of cars.

 

8 Properties on Tuesday it's 10 so 100 slots

CEO garages 60 slots

Bikers club 10 bikes only but also useful

Special Vehicles in the I/E underground garage

Arena Wars garages

Nightclub garages

Casino garage

Arcade garage

Agency garage

Workshop garage

IAA Facility garage

Well and the 1 Hangar

 

Seriously we got enough space, and if not ppl can use a second char.

Edited July 23, 2022 by Mexicola9302

[TinyRakan]

3 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

We can own so many cars already, no idea why some ppl need even more space.

 

Maybe ppl shouldn't buy so many duplicates, then it's more than enough to get a really really big collection of cars.

 

8 Properties on Tuesday it's 10 so 100 slots

CEO garages 60 slots

Bikers club 10 bikes only but also useful

Special Vehicles in the I/E underground garage

Arena Wars garages

Nightclub garages

Casino garage

Arcade garage

Agency garage

Workshop garage

IAA Facility garage

Well and the 1 Hangar

 

Seriously we got enough space, and if not ppl can use a second char.

Literally I have several empty garage I only use OP MK2 my play time is in invite session never played in public session since 2016 

40 minutes ago, Smart speculation1 said:

Chances of getting high value primary target is reduced for 72 hours after completion 

The primary target is that from the safe ? 

[Mexicola9302]

I only own 6 of the 8 apartments/garages atm, and soon it's 4 i can still buy. And i still got like 5-8 slots left.

 

So if i ever run out of space, i still got 40 slots left.  

[RaigeGames]

11 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

We can own so many cars already, no idea why some ppl need even more space.

 

Maybe ppl shouldn't buy so many duplicates, then it's more than enough to get a really really big collection of cars.

 

"Don't have such a big collection of cars, then you can have more space for a big collection of cars"

[Lurker247]

If the ‘use a second character method’ to bypass the new Cayo cooldown doesn’t work, one could just potentially do the Dr.Dre contract inbetween. IIRC, it pays 1mill *.*
 

Wonder if that will become the ‘meta’ or maybe something else hmmm can’t wait to see what we find next week!

[Mexicola9302]

Using 2 chars, ppl can own EVERY car ingame already, so there really is NO space problem.

[motomami]

Why is this even a debate? They added 2 extra slots, car collectors rejoice. If you don't need the space don't buy more. Problem solved.

[GAUNTLET HELLFIRE]

1 hour ago, The_Ghost said:

so we are here talking about the better compromise.

But it isn't. Why would I want to spend 2 hours doing 2 cayo heists when I could do 1 Cayo for the same money and then have an hour to do something else. Do people really not realize there are other things to do in this game that are also solo and pay well? this is by far the best nerf R* could have done. If R* did nerf the payout the same people would be complaining that they have to do the heist 2 to get the same pay now.

[Wesk_]

11 hours ago, eboyjohnkrasinski said:

If they wanted to encourage variety in gameplay, wouldn't it be better to increase the payouts for other solo activities? For example a permanent 2x$ increase to auto shop contracts.

 

 

would be cool, but probably won‘t happen, since the time it takes you to do cayo you can do like 2 or (maybe) 3 contracts (depending on how fast you do contracts and/or cayo) and you would be very close to earning the amount of money you get from cayo in those contracts. that’s why they probably only save it for 2x events. wouldn‘t mind if they increased the payouts a bit tho outside of 2x events, since i only run them during 2x events

also most of the contracts are quick and easy to do 

 

but having them on 2x events always would be something amazing lol. do  cayo then during cooldown do auto shop contracts and repeat

Edited July 23, 2022 by Wesk_

[Mayacohenloveseveryone]

34 minutes ago, Spear97 said:

Here is providing Rockstar stick to those percentages, the rough estimations for every heist finale payout receiving an update on July 26th

Thankyou a lot for these

[GAUNTLET HELLFIRE]

8 minutes ago, Lurker247 said:

If the ‘use a second character method’ to bypass the new Cayo cooldown doesn’t work, one could just potentially do the Dr.Dre contract inbetween. IIRC, it pays 1mill *.*
 

Wonder if that will become the ‘meta’ or maybe something else hmmm can’t wait to see what we find next week!

Can even mix in business sell missions, payphone hits, VIP work and client jobs to have a variety of money making methods without even leaving the session. 

[Mayacohenloveseveryone]

Just now, GAUNTLET HELLFIRE said:

Can even mix in business sell missions, payphone hits, VIP work and client jobs to have a variety of money making methods without even leaving the session. 

It is nice to do many things and not just one!

[Lurker247]

2 minutes ago, GAUNTLET HELLFIRE said:

Can even mix in business sell missions, payphone hits, VIP work and client jobs to have a variety of money making methods without even leaving the session. 

Exactly. Gonna be fun to mix things up after I pretty much whored myself out doing cayo lol I wish there was a count of how many times one has done the heist, as well as a total $ earnings count.