GTA 6 Speculation & Discussion [Part 7] - The one with the announcement

[Alvaroshi]

1 hour ago, Retro_Causality said:

what is the biggest street gang in Miami?

I have tried to search for something like this but I can't find any results from it beyond the last decade and this one, however in Florida these exist/existed:

 

Black Tuna Gang (1970s)

Bonanno crime family (Founded in the 1890s though primarily from New York but with additional sites in parts of the United States as well as South Florida and apparently still active today.)

Cali Cartel (Drug cartel from Colombia based southern of there as well as being active from 1975 to 1995.)

Colombo crime family (Founded in 1928 and is again from New York with additional territory also in South Florida and is still active today.)

DeCavalcante crime family (Founded in the 1900s but originating from Elizabeth and Newark of New Jersey)

Dixie Mafia (of the late 1960s from Mississippi, although his territory is the southeastern United States.)

 

La Familia Michoacana (Mexican cartel founded in the 1980s)

Gambino crime family (1900s to the present)

Genovese crime family (c. 1890s)

Israeli mafia

Jamaican Posse (Probably early 1980s or later)

La Raza (Founded in Chicago, Illinois in 1973 with Hispanic ethnicity from Mexico or Central America, with some territories including Florida.)

 

Latin Kings (Also founded in Chicago in the year but this time 1954 by Puerto Ricans with Hispanic and Latino ethnicity.)

Lucchese crime family (1920s)

Medellín Cartel (The best known and another Colombian cartel active from 1972 to 1993.)

Miami Boys (Founded probably from the early 1980s until they were eliminated in 1996 before the Atlanta Olympics of the same year.)

Mongols Motorcycle Club (Founded in 1969 in California, with Regions in the United States and Canada, they had a German chapter founded in Bremen but it was closed in 2016.)

Outlaws Motorcycle Club (Founded in 1935 in McCook in Illinois.)

Pagan's Motorcycle Club (Founded in 1957-1958 or 1959 in Prince George's County, Maryland.)

 

Philadelphia crime family (Founded in 1911 in South Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.)

Russian mafia (Late 1980's-present)

Sadistic Souls Motorcycle Club (Founded in 2010 in Wood River, Illinois and since 2014 they have been listed as a neo-Nazi group.)

Sarasota Assassination Society (19th century founded in Manatee County)

Shower Posse (another Jamaican gang.)

Sun Gym gang (Active in the mid-1990s.)

 

Trafficante crime family (Founded in 1925, in Tampa.)

Ukrainian mafia (early 1990s)

Warlocks Motorcycle Club (Florida) (Founded in 1967, in Orlando with regions in the United States, Canada, Germany and the United Kingdom (48 chapters in total.)

Zoe Pound (Founded by Haitian immigrants in the mid-1990s with Territory in Miami, Key West and Fort Pierce.)

Edited October 8, 2022 by Alvaroshi

[Frabbi 01]

1 hour ago, BTubbs200 said:

A space game with RAGE engine and Rockstar-level love and care would be super cool 

I'm really hoping that the long term plan is for GTA Online to become this, and be the one definitive virtual universe for all of humanity, considering they do it better than anyone else.

 

All these companies and their "metaverses" and I'm just like Rockstar is so far ahead of everyone that you might as well give up.

 

Now only if they would stop giving these repetitive updates, and get to scaling up to a full Earth, and beyond. 

[franloradr]

24 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

because they're completely comparable games

being a sandbox game instead of linear one shouldnt be an excuse for some features being less improved than those from a game one year older, because there are aspects relating the gameplay, the feeling at aiming, wielding and shooting a weapon, the bullet impact and how enemies react to them being impacted at their bodies, the wounds, all of them seem to be better in MP3 

 

its not a matter of linear vs sandbox but the lazyness feeling during development V is impregned into

[ueazen]

I remember seeing something like parking dispute in events. I wonder what is that? There are signs that parking is not allowed in the leaked clips, but they might be decorations. And personal vehicles are always in some sort of parking lot, would be a cool feature if we can't park our cars middle of the street lol.

[GTA Plus Enjoyer]

9 minutes ago, franloradr said:

being a sandbox game instead of linear one shouldnt be an excuse for some features being less improved than those from a game one year older, because there are aspects relating the gameplay, the feeling at aiming, wielding and shooting a weapon, the bullet impact and how enemies react to them being impacted at their bodies, the wounds, all of them seem to be better in MP3 

 

its not a matter of linear vs sandbox but the lazyness feeling during development V is impregned into

 

Some stuff had to be cut back so that GTAV (which is open world) could run on 2006 hardware. Sadly, physics (the way enemies react to bullets) was part of that. As for other features, I guess they either got cut due to hardware limitations or because they didn't think they'd fit in a GTA game.

 

I am honestly impressed to this day that they made GTAV run on a console with (iirc) 512MB of RAM.

[MrBreak16]

6 hours ago, jonnhy_xv said:

no I'm saying gta 6 will use kraken and still be 200 gb plus , rdr2 ofcourse didn't use it as it wasn't even out at the time . 

Still I seriously doubt it will be over 200GB. The game would only be over 200GB if Rockstar sucked at compression like Activision.

[Vice Cit]

12 minutes ago, ueazen said:

I remember seeing something like parking dispute in events. I wonder what is that? There are signs that parking is not allowed in the leaked clips, but they might be decorations. And personal vehicles are always in some sort of parking lot, would be a cool feature if we can't park our cars middle of the street lol.

Probably a random event where two NPCs hit each other in a parking lot while the protag is driving by, and you get the choice to help one of them. 

2 minutes ago, MrBreak16 said:

Still I seriously doubt it will be over 200GB. The game would only be over 200GB if Rockstar sucked at compression like Activision.

I'm gonna say it'll start at 150GB and get up to 175-180 after some updates. 

[Edward RDRIII]

2 hours ago, LarcenousUrsine said:

Then we're gonna have to wait and see if VI's AI is any good at racing, because V's AI couldn't race its way out of a paper bag, and racing online with a mix of Miss Daisies and Chick Higgses isn't much better either.

Racing in all Rockstar Games, excepting Midnight Club itself, is easier than breathing, so they have to change that.

 

2 hours ago, CommanderBlack said:

I watched the leaked footage again and realized this isn't a red cheval picador it is a new car inspired from the Ford Ranchero

Yeah, probably a Super Cobra Jet, Ryder would love this.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Edward RDRIII

[Vice Cit]

A cool feature would be if random NPCs challenge you to races on the street and highway

[Edward RDRIII]

2 hours ago, Zapper said:

I'm more or less certain that R* will never make another non-open world anytime soon, if ever. When it comes to linear games, Max Payne 3 was the last straw for them.

 

Open world games are simply more commercially viable for the kinds of budgets R* works with. Did you know that ND considered Last of Us 2 to be somewhat open world during early development? Elden Ring being an open world game has a hell of a lot to do with its massive success.

 

In my opinion, from their existing dormant IPs, only Bully and L.A. Noire have the potential to get a sequel/reboot down the line. Other than that, they'll probably make a new IP. GTA and Red Dead are here to stay, regardless.

Even the next Red Dead must be the last one.

[Spider-Vice]

18 minutes ago, MrBreak16 said:

The game would only be over 200GB if Rockstar sucked at compression like Activision.

You can't compare an open world game full of very high quality, if not 4K/8K, assets and high quality audio to a CoD game.

[Speede_r]

I’m hoping the mission design in VI is similar to what’s described in this video:

https://youtu.be/p6Tsll9hqgc

[Edward RDRIII]

1 hour ago, Retro_Causality said:

off topic, but did Max Payne 3 have better graphics than GTA V (ps3)?....Max's model looks better than Michael's for sure

 

That screenshot on the right is from the PS4 version though.

 

15 minutes ago, Vice Cit said:

A cool feature would be if random NPCs challenge you to races on the street and highway

This would give the game some 2F2F vibes, it's already set in Miami, the main character is blonde like Brian...

Edited October 9, 2022 by Edward RDRIII

[GTA Plus Enjoyer]

11 minutes ago, Speeder752 said:

I’m hoping the mission design in VI is similar to what’s described in this video:

https://youtu.be/p6Tsll9hqgc

Oh look who it is - NakeyJakey! At least this time it aint the "Rockstar game design is outdated" video.

[Zello]

1 hour ago, bashovski said:

Just threaten everyone with lawsuits and everyone's gonna pee their pants.

Rockstars got an all star team of lawyers. They got through Hot coffee and survived and a bunch of other cases. Rockstars legal team is legendary wouldn’t pick a fight with them.

[etechucacuca]

17 minutes ago, Speeder752 said:

I’m hoping the mission design in VI is similar to what’s described in this video:

https://youtu.be/p6Tsll9hqgc

dude want to turn Grand Theft Auto into a boring ass RPG game. Mixing gameplay freedom with movie style storytelling is a good combination.

[jonnhy_xv]

nakeyjakey said going from point a to b should stop lol , he wants teleportation in gta vi . All i want is a multiple possibilities in a couple of mission and thats it rockstar strong thing is linear mission design like rdr2 which is why it feels so cinematic

Edited October 9, 2022 by jonnhy_xv

[Zapper]

Just now, Edward RDRIII said:

Even the next Red Dead must be the last one.

Why though? R* can easily do more than a couple of Red Dead games set in different periods of the 19th century. Simply changing the protagonist's race, ethnicity, or gender would make the direction of the game distinct from the others. A game with a black outlaw protagonist would feel very different from a game with a Native American protagonist or a game with someone like Calamity Jane as the lead. So many historical events like the Civil War, or the California Gold Rush, or the Indian Wars still haven't been properly explored in the franchise yet. They still haven't mapped a large section of the US yet, let alone Canada, and they could revisit and completely revamp the older maps too, like the GTA cities.

 

And considering how long R* takes to make a game nowadays, a potential Red Dead 4 probably wouldn't even come out before the 2040s, especially if they make a new IP within the next 5-10 years. I don't see GTA and Red Dead going away anytime soon.

[Edward RDRIII]

58 minutes ago, jonnhy_xv said:

nakeyjakey said going from point a to b should stop lol , he wants teleportation in gta vi . All i want is a multiple possibilities in a couple of mission and thats it rockstar strong thing is linear mission design like rdr2 which is why it feels so cinematic

He basically wants to do radical changes to a classic formula, Rockstar may give us more freedom in GTA 6's missions, but not much, driving to point a to point b will still be a thing (Ain't that how we move around irl as well?). Rockstar looks at this guy's opinion and then they look at GTA 5's 180 million copies sold, it's not too hard to know what they'll do lol.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Edward RDRIII

[MrBreak16]

Maybe the mission structure in GTA VI will be more open like the cayo perico heist. Which is funny, because, that was after NakeyJakey criticized them for having too linear mission structures. On that note, I think it's funny that whenever the fanbase starts to criticize something about the game, Rockstar proceed to quietly and not so subtledly fix it.

[Zello]

7 minutes ago, jonnhy_xv said:

nakeyjakey said going from point a to b should stop lol , he wants teleportation in gta vi  

Nakeyjakey. That name I just can’t stop thinking about him jumping up and down on that bouncy ball and shouting Nakeyjakey

[Edward RDRIII]

Just now, Zapper said:

Why though? R* can easily do more than a couple of Red Dead games set in different periods of the 19th century. Simply changing the protagonist's race, ethnicity, or gender would make the direction of the game distinct from the others. A game with a black outlaw protagonist would feel very different from a game with a Native American protagonist or a game with someone like Calamity Jane as the lead. So many historical events like the Civil War, or the California Gold Rush, or the Indian Wars still haven't been properly explored in the franchise yet. They still haven't mapped a large section of the US yet, let alone Canada, and they could revisit and completely revamp the older maps too, like the GTA cities.

 

And considering how long R* takes to make a game nowadays, a potential Red Dead 4 probably wouldn't even come out before the 2040s, especially if they make a new IP within the next 5-10 years. I don't see GTA and Red Dead going away anytime soon.

Red Dead, to my understanding, was Dan's thing and he isn't around anymore, I'm almost certain there will be one last Red Dead to finish the Redemption Trilogy and they'll close the franchise with it, not only because Dan isn't working there anymore, but the wild west theme itself probably will end up dying eventually, that's when Project Medieval or a futuristic game like Half-Life comes in.

[BigBoyBertram]

I'm just going to say it: Red Dead doesn't have to strictly be a Western franchise. 

[~INDIO~]

I heard there was something in the leak about tanning if you're out in the sun a lot? If true, that alone is groundbreaking haha

4 minutes ago, Edward RDRIII said:

Red Dead, to my understanding, was Dan's thing and he isn't around anymore, I'm almost certain there will be one last Red Dead to finish the Redemption Trilogy and they'll close the franchise with it, not only because Dan isn't working there anymore, but the wild west theme itself probably will end up dying eventually, that's when Project Medieval or a futuristic game like Half-Life comes in.

I'd be very surprised if they ended the Red Dead franchise with the next game. Medieval and futuristic stuff isn't Rockstar IMO

[Edward RDRIII]

8 minutes ago, BigBoyBertram said:

I'm just going to say it: Red Dead doesn't have to strictly be a Western franchise. 

There's that too, people are usually against RDR3 being about Jack, but indirectly he is the main character of the Redemption games, him and Edgar Ross are the only characters who appears throughout the entire timeline: 1899, 1907, 1911 and 1914, so I'd say he deserves a game of his own, even if it's a game about gangsters instead of cowboys.

 

6 minutes ago, ~INDIO~ said:

I heard there was something in the leak about tanning if you're out in the sun a lot? If true, that alone is groundbreaking haha

I'd be very surprised if they ended the Red Dead franchise with the next game. Medieval and futuristic stuff isn't Rockstar IMO

There is the rumored Project Medieval, even Tez mentioned it earlier today, they can also do a game about pirates, I don't know, it's just a example you know.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Edward RDRIII

[Vice Cit]

1 minute ago, Edward RDRIII said:

There's that too, people are usually against RDR3 being about Jack, but indirectly he is the main character of the Redemption games, him and Edgar Ross are the only characters who appears throughout the entire timeline: 1899, 1907, 1911 and 1914, so I'd say he deserves a game of his own, even if it's a game about gangsters than about cowboys.

RDR3 is a 1940s open world mafia game. 

[Zello]

8 minutes ago, BigBoyBertram said:

I'm just going to say it: Red Dead doesn't have to strictly be a Western franchise. 

I would hate that. It’s supposed to be about Outlaws in the Wild West. Don’t make it about Jack in the modernizing world. That would suck.

[Edward RDRIII]

4 minutes ago, Vice Cit said:

RDR3 is a 1940s open world mafia game. 

Yeah, between 1930 and 1940 while Jack is still on his prime.

 

2 minutes ago, Zello said:

I would hate that. It’s supposed to be about Outlaws in the Wild West. Don’t make it about Jack in the modernizing world. That would suck.

"Work ya damn bucket!"

Edited October 9, 2022 by Edward RDRIII

[Zello]

9 minutes ago, Edward RDRIII said:

Yeah, between 1930 and 1940 while Jack is still on his prime.

Red Dead wouldn’t work though if it’s in the 1930s and 40s. 

[McIn Tyler]

Man back to work this week, no news on my vacation. Pretty saddening.