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NightmanCometh96

To keep the SR discussion slightly on-topic, I'm disappointed, but not surprised with the reception so far. It would be nice if at least one publisher was willing to give their open-world crime games even a fraction of the time, budget and attention to detail that is given to GTA/Red Dead, etc.. I just want R* to have some healthy competition for a change in the hopes that it could "humble" them, so to speak. Not that I actively hope they fail (realistically, if the DE debacle and disgusting anti-modding stance haven't affected them that much in the grand scheme of things, then nothing short of abandoning SP altogether will), but I'm sure Rockstar and Take-Two feel invincible whenever GTA clones turn out like SR 2022 seems to be, and that can lead to cockiness (I'd argue that we've already been at this point for years, with things like copyright claims against the original creator of GTA, mod takedowns, etc.).

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2 minutes ago, NightmanCometh96 said:

I just want R* to have some healthy competition for a change in the hopes that it could "humble" them, so to speak.


this.

 

if they had some competition they would definitely change for the better and improve. Let’s hope it happens but all these game developers just can’t do what rockstar do

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15 minutes ago, OJsAlibi said:

Yup, it was leaked however before that IIRC. One of those small leaks that no one believed but ended up being true.

tomorrow geoff keighley and/or strauss zelnick will walk on the gamescom liveshow stage, dressed as female gta protagonist and announce the game

 

quote me later

 

:shillkek:

NightmanCometh96
3 minutes ago, yolobigman said:


this.

 

if they had some competition they would definitely change for the better and improve. Let’s hope it happens but all these game developers just can’t do what rockstar do

We just need a sequel and/or remake to The Simpsons Hit & Run, honestly. If SpongeBob: Battle for Bikini Bottom could get a remake and an upcoming sequel, then surely the same could happen for what is unironically one of the best GTA clones?

 

Hell, Grove Street Games even gave potential devs something to work off of :prismkek::

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2 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Yup, it was leaked however before that IIRC. One of those small leaks that no one believed but ended up being true.

 

Leaked, definitely, as you and I discussed a few pages back with the Kotaku article posted when it was revealed.

 

 

Me, personally, I doubt the rate in which they share information about the impending game will be as slow but imagine the reveal in October, right? Then having to wait til late 2023 for confirmation of narrative and gameplay components.  Only bringing this up because people on here are showing their restlessness.   

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5 minutes ago, Punkd said:

tomorrow geoff keighley and/or strauss zelnick will walk on the gamescom liveshow stage, dressed as female gta protagonist and announce the game

 

quote me later

 

:shillkek:

Lol Keighley is the funniest man alive.

 

I can't take him seriously anymore, i just laugh every time i see his little joker hype posts on twitter.

 

Mate acting like he got some world premieres, hyping up announcement only for then to be some indie mumbo jumbo little videogames.

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It's hard to say. They can have a completely different marketing strategy for this that no one can predict, or drip-feed info as they're ready like before which might mean some fair amount of waiting which will upset some people even more than it did for GTA V :sadkek: 

2 minutes ago, OJsAlibi said:

 

Leaked, definitely, as you and I discussed a few pages back with the Kotaku article posted when it was revealed.

 

 

Me, personally, I doubt the rate in which they share information about the impending game will be as slow but imagine the reveal in October, right? Then having to wait til late 2023 for confirmation of narrative and gameplay components.  Only bringing this up because people on here are showing their restlessness.   

Winter The Great Info Drought of 2023 is coming

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Just now, Dourvas said:

only for then to be some indie mumbo jumbo little videogames

Still a world premiere of a video game. I think Geoff overhypes his conferences too and especially the Game Awards is basically just an advertisement-fest but I have a lot of respect for indie game showings and they deserve to be highlighted like AAA games.

1whitebuddah
2 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

It's hard to say. They can have a completely different marketing strategy for this that no one can predict, or drip-feed info as they're ready like before which might mean some fair amount of waiting which will upset some people even more than it did for GTA V :sadkek: 

From your time here, can you recall anyone making accurate predictions based on previous announcements etc?

Geoff is just a businessman, also considering he knows most of the people watching are there for GTA 6 he says something like “top anticipated game will be shown” then end up revealing some indie game

4 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Still a world premiere of a video game. I think Geoff overhypes his conferences too and especially the Game Awards is basically just an advertisement-fest but I have a lot of respect for indie game showings and they deserve to be highlighted like AAA games.

Sure no issue with that.

I actually beg for smaller companies to get recognition,(and not only Eu, and Us. There is a big market in Asia etc.) since i often enjoy indies way more than AAA.

 

However these games are not hype based. They are little gems waiting to be discovered one way or another.

 

My issue lies with what you mentioned; he overhypes things to no end, inevitably creating expectations. 

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2 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

It's hard to say. They can have a completely different marketing strategy for this that no one can predict, or drip-feed info as they're ready like before which might mean some fair amount of waiting which will upset some people even more than it did for GTA V :sadkek: 

 

1 minute ago, Len Lfc said:

Winter The Great Info Drought of 2023 is coming

 

One reason it's potentially won't be as long of a dry spell this time coming is because Rockstar doesn't have an in-between title to develop, market, and release.  The drip-feed of GTAV was in large part due to Rockstar still having to tend to Max Payne 3.

Also true I guess, at least until May 2012. But after the first few screenshots in July of that year, after MP3 had already released, we still had to wait quite a while for more info. After that it was smoother sailing (even if that info included a game delay :p)

TheOriginalGunslinger
14 hours ago, Zapper said:

And when nothing happens in October...

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I hope we atleast get a screenshot :sadkek:

 


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2 minutes ago, OJsAlibi said:

One reason it's potentially won't be as long of a dry spell this time coming is because Rockstar doesn't have an in-between title to develop, market, and release.  The drip-feed of GTAV was in large part due to Rockstar still having to tend to Max Payne 3.

 

1 minute ago, Spider-Vice said:

Also true I guess, at least until May 2012. But after the first few screenshots in July of that year, after MP3 had already released, we still had to wait quite a while for more info. After that it was smoother sailing (even if that info included a game delay :p)

Yeah, true. But... I don't know. I refuse to let myself "hope" things will be any different. In my mind, I just swap MP3 for their current more relaxed environment, to benefit employees health. I expect things to be 'largely' the same.

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I've just had my 'Gamescon announcement,' on Twitter....  I'm quite happy with the new Pre-Alpha footage they've just shown, especially since I watched one of the devs map it on Discord the other week....

arisfelbonilla
58 minutes ago, NightmanCometh96 said:

To keep the SR discussion slightly on-topic, I'm disappointed, but not surprised with the reception so far. It would be nice if at least one publisher was willing to give their open-world crime games even a fraction of the time, budget and attention to detail that is given to GTA/Red Dead, etc.. I just want R* to have some healthy competition for a change in the hopes that it could "humble" them, so to speak. Not that I actively hope they fail (realistically, if the DE debacle and disgusting anti-modding stance haven't affected them that much in the grand scheme of things, then nothing short of abandoning SP altogether will), but I'm sure Rockstar and Take-Two feel invincible whenever GTA clones turn out like SR 2022 seems to be, and that can lead to cockiness (I'd argue that we've already been at this point for years, with things like copyright claims against the original creator of GTA, mod takedowns, etc.).

Like I said a few times
NO ONE
can with rockstar games
NO ONE
and saints row is the example

and now R will no longer have to worry about it and continue as is

so R will never have competition because
as I said
they fail from day 1 and are the best in their field
and that "competition" humiliates itself
and I'm glad that saints row is not even the shadow of gta

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NightmanCometh96

I've never really been a fan of Rockstar's info drought marketing tactics. It's the epitome of how rarely (and at times, poorly) they communicate with the fanbase. Sure, some people see it as part of the fun; but personally, it has become incredibly tiresome to be kept in the dark for a full year after the announcement (save for the occasional screenshot batch), only for the next significant update to be a series of delays that ultimately leads to the game coming out two years after the reveal. It's hard for me to be overly excited for a game that I know (based on R*'s history) may not come out for another two years. It's just too early of an announcement window, IMO. EDIT: Even E&E of all f*cking things suffered this same fate: it was announced in June 2020, but wound up being delayed until March 2022; that's a 21 month wait for a re-rerelease (one that has yet to hit PC)!

 

As self-contradictory as it sounds, I'd honestly rather not hear about a game's existence until the publisher and/or devs are confident that it's ~ a few months away from release (e.g. Fallout 4 or Mortal Kombat 11). RDR2's PC version and the DE (ignoring the abysmal quality of the "remasters") being announced just a month or so prior to release was a nice change of pace, but I doubt it will ever become the norm for brand new R* titles due to the marketing/hype cycle. As such, I've begrudgingly resigned to the likely timeline of:

 

  • Fall 2022: Reveal + teaser trailer + Fall 2023 release target
  • Spring or Summer 2023: One or two small batches of screenshots
  • Late 2023: Delay to Spring 2024 + second trailer to "calm down" the fans
  • Early 2024: A few more random batches of screenshots (and possibly small bits of information)
  • Spring 2024: Second delay to Fall 2024
  • Summer 2024: More frequent tidbits of info in the weeks leading to the game's launch
  • September or October 2025: Yet another year+ long info drought for PC before it finally releases as a R* Launcher exclusive in Fall 2025
  • ???: God knows when or if the PC version will come to Steam (if the DE is anything to go by).   

 

It's possible that things may be different this time around, since modern-day R* is not the same company it was in the GTA V or even RDR2 days (for better or worse); but like Dwayne Forge says: "Expect the worst, then you can only be pleasantly surprised".

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This might sound too optimisitc but anyone else expecting a PC launch alongside console? They set the precedent with the DE Trilogy and Rockstar has their own launcher on PC now avoiding Steams 30%? cut. I honestly expect a launch alongside consoloe but RGL/Epic Exclusive for a year or so before coming on steam

NightmanCometh96
11 minutes ago, Plebyxail said:

This might sound too optimisitc but anyone else expecting a PC launch alongside console? They set the precedent with the DE Trilogy and Rockstar has their own launcher on PC now avoiding Steams 30%? cut. I honestly expect a launch alongside consoloe but RGL/Epic Exclusive for a year or so before coming on steam

As much as I'd love for this to be the case, even if the PC version were finished day 1, there's no way R*/T2 would miss out on an opportunity to double/triple-dip customers;  it did them wonders with GTA V, and that came out over a year and a half after the original launch (granted, releasing on 7th Gen so close to 8th Gen's launch played a part in this longer than usual wait). I consider the DE to be the exception to the rule since it was never meant to be anything more than a quick, lazy outsourced cash grab.

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22 minutes ago, Plebyxail said:

This might sound too optimisitc but anyone else expecting a PC launch alongside console? They set the precedent with the DE Trilogy and Rockstar has their own launcher on PC now avoiding Steams 30%?

I wouldn't hold my breath. Trilogy DE wasn't really a Rockstar production and was a remaster of three 15-20-year old games. Remember, they still haven't updated the PC version of GTAV with the E&E upgrades, even though the online updates keep on coming.

 

Whenever it comes out on PC, it'll probably be exclusive to Rockstar Launcher for 6-12 months unless Epic pays a pretty penny for having it on their store.

1 hour ago, NightmanCometh96 said:

I've never really been a fan of Rockstar's info drought marketing tactics. It's the epitome of how rarely (and at times, poorly) they communicate with the fanbase. Sure, some people see it as part of the fun; but personally, it has become incredibly tiresome to be kept in the dark for a full year after the announcement (save for the occasional screenshot batch) only for the next significant update to be (at least one) delay that ultimately pushes the game out to two years after the reveal. It's hard for me to be overly excited for a game that I know (based on R*'s history) won't be coming out for two years. It would just be too early of a reveal, IMO.

 

As self-contradictory as it sounds, I'd honestly rather not hear about a game's existence until the publisher and/or devs are confident that it's ~ a few months away from release (e.g. Fallout 4 or Mortal Kombat 11). RDR2's PC version and the DE (ignoring the abysmal quality of the "remasters") being announced just a month or so prior to release was a nice change of pace, but I doubt it will ever become the norm for brand new R* titles due to the marketing/hype cycle. As such, I've begrudgingly resigned to the likely timeline of:

 

  • Fall 2022: Reveal + teaser trailer + Fall 2023 release target
  • Spring or Summer 2023: One or two small batches of screenshots
  • Late 2023: Delay to Spring 2024 + second trailer to "calm down" the fans
  • Early 2024: A few more random batches of screenshots (and possibly small bits of information)
  • Spring 2024: Second delay to Fall 2024
  • Summer 2024: More frequent tidbits of info in the weeks leading to the game's launch
  • September or October 2025: Yet another year+ long info drought for PC before it finally releases as a R* Launcher exclusive in Fall 2025
  • ???: God knows whenever it comes to Steam (if the DE is anything to go by).   

 

It's possible that things may not be the same this time around since we're dealing with a different R* than we were in the GTA V and RDR2 days (for better or worse), but like Dwayne Forge says: "Expect the worst, then you can only be pleasantly surprised".

This "second delay" in this predictions of release date is so surprising to me. Like R* has a clear instruction to delay new project at least couple of times after announcement. What if with the recent studio changes there won't be "second delay"? Hopefully.

1 minute ago, RoughD said:

This "second delay" in this predictions of release date is so surprising to me. Like R* has a clear instruction to delay new project at least couple of times after announcement. What if with the recent studio changes there won't be "second delay"? Hopefully.

 

i would be shocked if there wont be the typical R* delays, and the second delay being sth like "we need some more time to tweak some final stuff to give the best possible experience to our $$$/players"

NightmanCometh96
4 minutes ago, RoughD said:

This "second delay" in this predictions of release date is so surprising to me. Like R* has a clear instruction to delay new project at least couple of times after announcement. What if with the recent studio changes there won't be "second delay"? Hopefully.

Going by Jason Schreier's article, some R* devs aren't confident that VI will meet the 2024 fiscal year target date, so I completely except at least one delay:

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"Industry analysts anticipate that the next Grand Theft Auto will be out sometime in Take-Two’s 2024 fiscal year, which runs from April 2023 through March 2024, but developers are skeptical. The game has been in development in some form since 2014. Although there are loose schedules in place, people interviewed for this article said they didn’t know of any firm release date and that they expect the game to be at least two years away. Earlier this year, a group of designers quit Rockstar’s Edinburgh office, telling colleagues they were sick of the lack of progress."

 

3 minutes ago, NightmanCometh96 said:

Going by Jason Schreier's article, some R* devs aren't confident that VI will meet the 2024 fiscal year target date, so I completely except at least one delay:

 

On the Rockstar canteen menu in 2023.

 

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