GTA 6 Speculation & Discussion [Part 7] - The one with the announcement

[1whitebuddah]

If GTA is no less than 2 years away isn't it possible we won't hear anything official for at least another year?

[Spider-Vice]

That's my point, the map can still very well be something larger like that even if it's "Miami and the surrounding area". I don't understand why there's so much panic over the article's wording when it likely just means "we initially wanted to do a sh*t ton of cities but then realised that would take incredibly long and would likely affect the level of detail, so we decided to go with only Vice City and the surrounding area, and spend the years of development focusing on that one place".

 

You'd be terribly mistaken if you think R* hasn't been modelling this new VC for years now.

[DeltaV20]

3 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Brown Streak.

'They tried to wipe him out but they missed a bit' 

[Jason]

26 minutes ago, AntonGandonBF3 said:

GTA IV and San Andreas had very different humour/culture/world. If you open your mind outside of the box, I can see UK being parodied even better than the US. They had Johnson as the PM (similar to Trump), they have many different cultures just as the US, and a capitalistic narcissistic world. 

 

I think people have to stop already saying that GTA can work only inside the US.

 

The issue isn't that you can't parody other countries, it's that GTA's brand of parody and satire is specifically designed around the USA.

 

So sure R* could parody other countries but it might result in a game and gameworld that doesn't fit the series, and thus would be better of used in a new IP.

[Americana]

Yes, Grand Theft Auto is the United States of America. I mean, come on.

 

Also, I just want this Vice City to be much more than a packet of landmarks. I want a lot of 'normal' neighborhoods.

Edited July 30, 2022 by Americana

[MrQuiche]

55 minutes ago, ionutx02 said:

I think the map will look similar to this: https://www.deviantart.com/avatar-sd/art/GTA-6-Grand-Theft-Auto-VI-Vice-City-Map-1-4-887964370

This map looks good, must have taken a lot of time to do

[KoolHoven]

42 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

That's my point, the map can still very well be something larger like that even if it's "Miami and the surrounding area". I don't understand why there's so much panic over the article's wording when it likely just means "we initially wanted to do a sh*t ton of cities but then realised that would take incredibly long and would likely affect the level of detail, so we decided to go with only Vice City and the surrounding area, and spend the years of development focusing on that one place".

 

You'd be terribly mistaken if you think R* hasn't been modelling this new VC for years now.

people conveniently forget that GTA IVs map was initially planed to be at least 3 times the size early on but was cut down to a more realistic size

[VercettiGuy]

1 hour ago, ionutx02 said:

I think the map will look similar to this: https://www.deviantart.com/avatar-sd/art/GTA-6-Grand-Theft-Auto-VI-Vice-City-Map-1-4-887964370

 

This would absolutely be the best case scenario. Honestly if that is "Vice City and surrounding areas" I would be completely fine with it.

 

But my guess is that we won't get two more smaller cities like on this map, but just towns like V.

[FannoF]

Just now, VercettiGuy said:

But my guess is that we won't get two more smaller cities like on this map, but just towns like V.

so much for exceeding expectations I guess

 

If I expect GTA VI to have 6 cities surely they will still exceed my expectations right

[MaddenedGhost]

1 hour ago, Spider-Vice said:

That's my point, the map can still very well be something larger like that even if it's "Miami and the surrounding area". I don't understand why there's so much panic over the article's wording when it likely just means "we initially wanted to do a sh*t ton of cities but then realised that would take incredibly long and would likely affect the level of detail, so we decided to go with only Vice City and the surrounding area, and spend the years of development focusing on that one place".

 

You'd be terribly mistaken if you think R* hasn't been modelling this new VC for years now.

Word has it that they remastered GTA Vice City just so they don't have to create the map for GTAVI.

 

 So lazy.

[eyman]

18 hours ago, Scott Ransom said:

I cant believe Jason Schreier would be so unprofessional and release details about the game before Rockstar have. Whats the point in NDA's if guys like Schreier brazenly just leak everything - appalling behaviour. 

It's either one of two things.

1. This is all part of Rockstar's plan to communicate to the world that things are much better now at Rockstar, and it is in a better position in regards to the work environment and cultural awareness than it was a couple years ago. Plus this article is a good segue to the beginning of GTA VI's marketing campaign later this year. Keep things controlled.

2. I hope Jason and Bloomberg have over £1 million at the back of their sofas to donate to charities chosen by Take-Two when the game releases.

[REVENGE777]

14 hours ago, Edward RDRIII said:

I was watching some interviews with Steven Ogg and by the way he talks it doesn't look like he is too fond with the GTA franchise or even Rockstar Games themselves anymore, saying things such as that's a video game children play and such, even though he is best known as playing Trevor I don't feel like he is too keen on coming back in GTA 6.

him and Shawn Fonteno didn’t really get along either as I recall. I also remember Steven ogg underhanding some of the things Shawn said about his role in the game.

 

I guess the Trevor role was too much for him. Now he’s content on being in commercials for old spice and erectile disfunction meds.

[MaddenedGhost]

One of the reasons why I have never believed the "Project Americas" thing was because the wording made it sound as if the playable area is gigantic, I know the next game will have the biggest map Rockstar has ever came up with, as with every new open world they create, but not to some unrealistic measures.

 

GTAVI will have a massive map, the biggest so far, that there's no doubt in.

 

Them focusing on Vice City means we will end up with a very detailed city.

 

Los Santos and Liberty City are roughly the same size and are already very detailed (an unfair comparison, I might add, because there's the rest of the map in GTAV, but that's besides the point) and both were designed for PS3/Xbox360, now imagine what they are can do with the latest consoles.

 

I mean, Saint Denis, even with how small it is, is so impressive, and it's just a small place in the big world of RDR2, imagine a Vice City on the same scale of details, but with a way bigger size.

[Spider-Vice]

4 minutes ago, eyman said:

It's either one of two things.

1. This is all part of Rockstar's plan to communicate to the world that things are much better now at Rockstar, and it is in a better position in regards to the work environment and cultural awareness than it was a couple years ago. Plus this article is a good segue to the beginning of GTA VI's marketing campaign later this year. Keep things controlled.

2. I hope Jason and Bloomberg have over £1 million at the back of their sofas to donate to charities chosen by Take-Two when the game releases.

Eh, nothing happened to Kotaku when they leaked GTA V would be set in Los Santos and have 3 protagonists before announcement so... Unless it's some Trusted Reviews-level leak (RDR2) where they go in detail about game features at that time of development, along with unseen screenshots, probably nothing is happening to Bloomberg. The information is "vague" enough that it could be considered just yet another "fake leak" to many.

[REVENGE777]

18 hours ago, Scott Ransom said:

I cant believe Jason Schreier would be so unprofessional and release details about the game before Rockstar have. Whats the point in NDA's if guys like Schreier brazenly just leak everything - appalling behaviour. 

Dude… unclutch your pearls, you act like he sh*t in your grandma’s urn or something 

[MaddenedGhost]

4 minutes ago, eyman said:

It's either one of two things.

1. This is all part of Rockstar's plan to communicate to the world that things are much better now at Rockstar, and it is in a better position in regards to the work environment and cultural awareness than it was a couple years ago. Plus this article is a good segue to the beginning of GTA VI's marketing campaign later this year. Keep things controlled.

2. I hope Jason and Bloomberg have over £1 million at the back of their sofas to donate to charities chosen by Take-Two when the game releases.

None of which will happen.

 

1- It is not Rockstar's way of doing marketing.

 

2- They won't go after him for this, they might go after the employees who are the original source of the info.

[Spider-Vice]

3 minutes ago, The_Ghost said:

One of the reasons why I have never believed the "Project Americas" thing was because the wording made it sound as if the playable area is gigantic, I know the next game will have the biggest map Rockstar has ever came up with, as with every new open world they create, but not to some unrealistic measures.

I do think Project Americas is/was a thing because RDR2's files actually directly reference a project named "Americas" in a couple of files. But what if the original The Know leak was just stuff from a design document, and the final "Project Americas" is Vice City, some Caribbean islands (Cayo?) and maybe a part of Cuba in a linear fashion? That would still be the Americas

[MaddenedGhost]

Yeah, I was going to mention Trusted Reviews, they probably went after them for releasing unseen screenshots.

 

Speaking of them, I have always found it strange how they posted different versions of screenshots that were officially released, like, same clothing/area but with a different camera angle or pose, that was interesting.

 

 

 

Edited July 30, 2022 by The_Ghost

[DisCrafted]

And then Trusted Reviews didn't even mention RDR2 in their end of the year video games list or whatever it was

[MaddenedGhost]

3 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

I do think Project Americas is/was a thing because RDR2's files actually directly reference a project named "Americas" in a couple of files. But what if the original The Know leak was just stuff from a design document, and the final "Project Americas" is Vice City, some Caribbean islands (Cayo?) and maybe a part of Cuba in a linear fashion? That would still be the Americas

I should have worded my comment better, I have always thought the map portion of it is too good to be true, or too ambitious.

 

My general assumption ever since GTAV was released is that the next game is going back to Vice City, so I knew that part was probably true, but the rest was just unrealistically big.

[Spider-Vice]

2 minutes ago, The_Ghost said:

Speaking of them, I have always found it strange how they posted different versions of screenshots that were officially released, like, same clothing/area but with a different camera angle or pose, that was interesting.

 

Their source was definitely someone involved in the marketing/asset creation process or similar, because usually the screenshots we see have several takes. They don't take just one for the same scenario.

[DisCrafted]

7 minutes ago, The_Ghost said:

Speaking of them, I have always found it strange how they posted different versions of screenshots that were officially released, like, same clothing/area but with a different camera angle or pose, that was interesting.

The one with Arthur aiming the volcanic pistol (?) was the most interesting to me because his face looks kinda different. Like a mix between Trailer #2 and Roger's face in real life. Not the first time we've seen changes in facial features though. And obviously that screen was from an earlier build of the game.

Edited July 30, 2022 by DisCrafted

[VercettiGuy]

9 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

(Cayo?)

 

I swear to god if somebody mentions that totally unappealing island in connection with GTA VI again I will lock myself in a closet and cry for at least VI hours 

 

I don't think it will appear in the game ... but does anybody mind that? The island really isn't that great.

[Kolateak]

17 hours ago, FannoF said:

Tbh I kinda forgot about that part, but they could just make a 3rd character for the epilogue, similar to RDR2

I think you just discovered the Casey from the Ricardo, Rose, and Casey in this 2 protagonist game 

[MaddenedGhost]

10 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Their source was definitely someone involved in the marketing/asset creation process or similar, because usually the screenshots we see have several takes. They don't take just one for the same scenario.

Oh I know they do, that whole process, the tools involved and the way they capture stuff have always been very interesting to me.

 

It does make you wonder about all the cool screenshots they haven't released.

3 minutes ago, VercettiGuy said:

 

I swear to god if somebody mentions that totally unappealing island in connection with GTA VI again I will lock myself in a closet and cry for at least VI hours 

 

I don't think it will appear in the game ... but does anybody mind that? The island really isn't that great.

Looks beautiful, serves the purpose they intended for it in GTAV.

 

What I mind is the concrete vegetation they got growing over there.

19 hours ago, Scott Ransom said:

I cant believe Jason Schreier would be so unprofessional and release details about the game before Rockstar have. Whats the point in NDA's if guys like Schreier brazenly just leak everything - appalling behaviour. 

I found Naughty Dog/Rockstar Games's secret account in here.

Edited July 30, 2022 by The_Ghost

[_formation_100_]

I just want a trailer so I know its that date + 2 years,

[MaddenedGhost]

Just now, _formation_100_ said:

I just want a trailer so I know its that date + 2 years,

I just want a trailer so I can participate in the mapping thread man, I didn't get to do so in the last two and I feel left out from the fun.

[eyman]

27 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Eh, nothing happened to Kotaku when they leaked GTA V would be set in Los Santos and have 3 protagonists before announcement so... Unless it's some Trusted Reviews-level leak (RDR2) where they go in detail about game features at that time of development, along with unseen screenshots, probably nothing is happening to Bloomberg. The information is "vague" enough that it could be considered just yet another "fake leak" to many.

Which leads me to believe it Rockstar's way of saying; we are doing much better now than the original Jason article about Rockstar's culture and here is what we changed and here are the effects it has made to our games.
 

25 minutes ago, The_Ghost said:

None of which will happen.

 

1- It is not Rockstar's way of doing marketing.

There is no one way when it comes to Rockstar's Marketing. Not everything has to be promoted through Rockstar's own platforms. I have a good feeling Jason and Rockstar have both agreed to this. Also Jason's last interview in 2018 with Rockstar employees were provided by Rockstar themselves, one of which was Rockstar's Head of Publishing at the time. Jennifer Kolbe since then has been trying to improve working conditions.

Edited July 30, 2022 by eyman

[Jason]

34 minutes ago, eyman said:

2. I hope Jason and Bloomberg have over £1 million at the back of their sofas to donate to charities chosen by Take-Two when the game releases.

 

He's a journalist, doing what journalists do. He's broken no laws and if T2 tried to sue him they'd get laughed out of court and told to pay his fees while they're there.

 

He's got no contract or agreement with Take-Two or R*. If he released he identities of the people who gave him this info they'd be all fired, but Schreier won't do that, and Take-Two can't force him to do that. It's journalistic privilege.

 

I would also highly doubt R* would lowkey use someone like Schreier for a puff piece either, he'd just out them for it. If they wanted to talk about it they could set up an interview, or give him official access to employees or something.

 

There's no conspiracy theory to it, he's a journalist, he talked to devs, made an article about what he heard. No deals with R*/T2.

[MaddenedGhost]

7 minutes ago, eyman said:

There is no one way when it comes to Rockstar's Marketing. Not everything has to be promoted through Rockstar's own platforms. I have a good feeling Jason and Rockstar have both agreed to this. Also Jason's last interview in 2018 with Rockstar employees where provided by Rockstar themselves, one of which was Rockstar's Head of Publishing at the time. Jennifer Kolbe since then has been trying to improve working conditions.

Oh I am sure Rockstar really loved it when he talked about how toxic and terrible their work environment was at the time, they must have been unable to contain themselves with excitement to get the info out to the world.

 

The article in its core is a "confirmation" of things that were talked about for many years with maybe an additional thing or two here and there.

I think if this did come from them, it would have had more stuff.

 

For example: I believe the map leak of RDR2 could very well be from Rockstar, but this... this doesn't seem like it.

 

 

Edited July 30, 2022 by The_Ghost