__d Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Taking into account the chronological timeline of the GTA Universe, as outlined here: https://gamerant.com/rockstar-grand-theft-auto-games-chronological-order/ It's interesting to know that Claude, terrorizing Liberty City in 2001, may have been a popular figure elsewhere, before that. Take a listen to K-Chat while bopping around Vice City (or cheat and listen to just a few seconds of this interview, conducted by Amy Sheckenhauser, back in 1986 (at 1:18:54, if it doesn't take you to that point): Does that whining, pretentious, sanctimonious douche sound emotionless to you? Perhaps this further enforces the theory that, when he was shot, he was shot in the throat, losing his speech capabilities --- people were just sick and tired of hearing him speak. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/983439-claude-emotionless-perhaps-not/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAFanLuca Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) I think this theory is a bit too far-fetched. First of all, Claude also appears in San Andreas in 1992, and he is completely silent whenever he appears. And remember that this is 9 years before the events of GTA III. Secondly, that Claude character potrayed on K-Chat has an actual last name (click here). For the protagonist that is Claude, his surname "may or may not be Speed", as Rockstar themselves have put it. Also, that talk show character is implied to be French judging by his full name and accent, whereas Claude's ancestry remains widely unknown (and Catalina is the only character to actually call him by his name). Edited June 23, 2022 by GTAFanLuca Grammar Copcaller 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/983439-claude-emotionless-perhaps-not/#findComment-1071880657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
__d Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 13 hours ago, GTAFanLuca said: Quote First of all, Claude also appears in San Andreas in 1992, and he is completely silent whenever he appears. And remember that this is 9 years before the events of GTA III. Well, I'd be shocked if it was the other way around, and he was mute until being shot in the throat and could miraculously possess the powers of speech. Quote Secondly, that Claude character potrayed on K-Chat has an actual last name (click here). For the protagonist that is Claude, his surname "may or may not be Speed", as Rockstar themselves have put it. "May or may not be" is not synonymous with "is" or even "probably is," though. Quote Also, that talk show character is implied to be French judging by his full name and accent, whereas Claude's ancestry remains widely unknown (and Catalina is the only character to actually call him by his name). I certainly don't pick up any French in his accent. If anything, he sounds either British Virgin Islands or pretentious New Englander, to me. All of that said, keep in mind, it's just a lighthearted post, and not trying to wildly speculate on things. I had just never noticed it before, no matter how many times I've heard every second of every station in every installment over the years. I found it to be intriguing that a very minor plot point at one point in the timeline used the same name as a protagonist in the entire story of a later chronological point. Him originally being down in Vice City and losing his mind due to the holier-than-thou mentality and attitude we hear on K-Chat could feasibly - no matter the stretch of the imagination - suggest why he suddenly uprooted to Liberty City, and ultimately burned his contacts and had to go west coast to San Andreas. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/983439-claude-emotionless-perhaps-not/#findComment-1071880986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAFanLuca Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 I know this is just a lighthearted post. I was not trying to attack you or something. But in the long run, there are some aspects that just do not connect properly (and not necessarily because of your ideas). R* made the huge mistake of featuring Claude as a random cameo in SA, and featuring him completely speechless too (making us doubt even the "shot in the throat" scenario). At this point, Claude could have been some sort of Michael Myers: having the ability to talk, but deliberately refusing to make use of it. It also boggles the mind considering how little time both Miguel and CJ could handle Catalina, while her partnership with Claude was quite long (however, his silence might have had something to do with it). To keep in touch with your theory, show business can indeed be a dirty business (just take a look at Hollywood), so one may snap at one point or another. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/983439-claude-emotionless-perhaps-not/#findComment-1071881004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin4004 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) On 6/22/2022 at 10:30 PM, __d said: Taking into account the chronological timeline of the GTA Universe, as outlined here: https://gamerant.com/rockstar-grand-theft-auto-games-chronological-order/ It's interesting to know that Claude, terrorizing Liberty City in 2001, may have been a popular figure elsewhere, before that. Take a listen to K-Chat while bopping around Vice City (or cheat and listen to just a few seconds of this interview, conducted by Amy Sheckenhauser, back in 1986 (at 1:18:54, if it doesn't take you to that point): Does that whining, pretentious, sanctimonious douche sound emotionless to you? Perhaps this further enforces the theory that, when he was shot, he was shot in the throat, losing his speech capabilities --- people were just sick and tired of hearing him speak. Ummm sir, the interview you are hearing on K-Chat concerns Claude Maginot, not to be confused with Claude from GTA 3 I think it speaks for itself. However, I don't believe that Claude is emotionless. Pretty much the contrary, I think he is quite emotional, but he is hiding them the majority of time. People say that Claude has no problem betraying someone. Well how would you think when someone close to you like a girlfriend betrays you and leaves for death and police? Yeah, Claude has reasons for his behaviour towards his principals Cheers! Edited June 25, 2022 by Martin4004 Grammar edits atay26 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/983439-claude-emotionless-perhaps-not/#findComment-1071881840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atay26 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 16 hours ago, Martin4004 said: Ummm sir, the interview you are hearing on K-Chat concerns Claude Maginot, not to be confused with Claude from GTA 3 I think it speaks for itself. However, I don't believe that Claude is emotionless. Pretty much the contrary, I think he is quite emotional, but he is hiding them the majority of time. People say that Claude has no problem betraying someone. Well how would you think when someone close to you like a girlfriend betrays you and leaves for death and police? Yeah, Claude has reasons for his behaviour towards his principals Cheers! Yeah I don't understand how people call him emotionless? He is a strong silent type for a reason Martin4004 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/983439-claude-emotionless-perhaps-not/#findComment-1071882220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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