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What if I told you R* are dropping the number pretext?


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OysterBarron

No more VIV no VI just GTA. I'm starting to wonder going by the only bit of official info we've is Rockstar going to move away from numbered sequels in order to appear like a more mature version of the game. So going back to like the days of GTA London 1969 naming pretext. 

 

If you think about it roman numerals will only get you so far, I mean can we expect GTA LXIX  in future? Doesn't really have the same ring to it does it.

 

This may also explain why rockstar hasn't official said that Grand Theft Auto VI is in development and just left it as the next iteration of Grand Theft Auto.

 

Personally I would like to see a return to the named series what are your thoughts, suggestions?

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GTA: 6 = GTA: Vice
GTA:O2 = GTA: World

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1 minute ago, WanteD1 said:

GTA: 6 = GTA: Vice
GTA:O2 = GTA: World

 

GTA:O2 = GTA: Oxygen?

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46 minutes ago, OysterBarron said:

I mean can we expect GTA LXIX in future? 

 

Can we even expect Grand Theft Auto VII or VIII?

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DeltaV20

So basically GTA VI will be released after the next GTA if it won't have any Roman Numbers?! capiche? 

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The best GTAs had non numbered names so if it will continue the trend then why not

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I want my GTA XXX in 2100 though.

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1 hour ago, DeltaV20 said:

So basically GTA VI will be released after the next GTA if it won't have any Roman Numbers?! capiche? 

Yeah pretty much, I just have a feeling that maybe this might be the final Swan song from all they've learnt from 2 decades of developing GTA titles especially atleast a title with input from the old guard that has since departed Rockstar, witch makes me wonder whether they will promote it as,

 

THIS IS Grand Theft Auto.

 

I'm not saying it will be the last gta just an absolute master piece and maybe even a remaking of what they would've done if they had today's tech in 97 something massively ground breaking to redefine the genre they pretty much crafted.

 

 

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The name VI:CE is still the best alternative.

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1 hour ago, wise_man said:

The name VI:CE is still the best alternative.

You'll get it a few years after VI comes out as Grand Theft Auto VI: Complete Edition :prismkek:

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1 hour ago, wise_man said:

The name VI:CE is still the best alternative.

No, it's cliche.

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DexMacLeod

This idea's come up quite a few times and I still think it's very possible. I don't think it has anything to do with the roman numerals, though. At their current rate of release, we're decades away from them even hitting double digits. Not really a "problem" they need to start course correcting for now.

 

If they ditch the numbering system it will be because they intend to sell this next game as the start of something new. 

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If they do go with a series "reboot" and just call it Grand Theft Auto I'm just left wondering what the hell we'll do with this subforum and its name :kekw: 

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31 minutes ago, DexMacLeod said:

If they ditch the numbering system it will be because they intend to sell this next game as the start of something new. 

 

Or simply because numbering the next game/film in a franchise has gone somewhat out of fashion.

 

Seeing a fair few sequels to films and games avoiding numbering these days. Marvel films for the most part, Horizon FW, God of War Ragnarok, etc. Don't get me wrong there's still plenty of numbered sequels but a lot of big budget stuff now is avoiding putting a number at the end of the name.

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I feel like we say this every time, though. And they always +1 the game number. And I distinctly remember this around 2013/14 in regards to Fallout 4 speculation; it was thought that since a lot of games had recently been, or were being rebooted, and dropping numbers, that Fallout 4 would do the same. It didn't.

I am 100% certain it'll just be GTA VI. And I feel like sometimes we overthink things that are actually pretty simple.

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

 

Or simply because numbering the next game/film in a franchise has gone somewhat out of fashion.

 

Seeing a fair few sequels to films and games avoiding numbering these days. Marvel films for the most part, Horizon FW, God of War Ragnarok, etc. Don't get me wrong there's still plenty of numbered sequels but a lot of big budget stuff now is avoiding putting a number at the end of the name.

 

True, that's been a trend this past decade or more. I think in situations like these though where traditionally the franchise has been numbered then they suddenly drop the numbering in favor of something evoking the first one they're usually trying to convey some sort of fresh start. Usually, it's a soft reboot, or a "requel" but there's generally some sort of reset involved. Halloween, Fast and Furious, Scream come to mind.

 

Probably not as necessary for a franchise like GTA where it's essentially an anthology series, though.

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I think this is more likely to happen for "GTA 7" than GTA VI. The way I envision it (and could be wrong of course) is that GTA VI will build on everything we wanted from IV and V with the potential of multiple "maps" for the first time, maybe even timelines, and a woman protag. If it's modern day Vice City, then all the main cities of the past would also be remade. What next after that? Back to the west coast for SF and LV, more sunny and dry places? "GTA VII" also looks kinda weird, so a soft reboot to include an entirely new location (e.g. Chicago) would make more sense than right now.

 

Who knows though, they could surprise us entirely.

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They won't drop the numbers, because that would mean they would never make GTA LXIX

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On 4/24/2022 at 11:49 PM, Kirsty said:

I think this is more likely to happen for "GTA 7" than GTA VI. The way I envision it (and could be wrong of course) is that GTA VI will build on everything we wanted from IV and V with the potential of multiple "maps" for the first time, maybe even timelines, and a woman protag. If it's modern day Vice City, then all the main cities of the past would also be remade. What next after that? Back to the west coast for SF and LV, more sunny and dry places? "GTA VII" also looks kinda weird, so a soft reboot to include an entirely new location (e.g. Chicago) would make more sense than right now.

 

Who knows though, they could surprise us entirely.

The way you're describing it makes it sound like a perfect time to mature the brand and what better way todo it than drop the numbers.

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Is this supposed to blow my mind? GTA: Vice City and GTA: San Andreas more or less already did that.

 

But you know what? I get it. Seriously, the gap between GTA IV's release and GTA V's reveal trailer was, what, 3 years? And then two years for it to release? Guess what? It has almost been 10 YEARS since GTA V released and all we have of GTA 6 or GTA: Whatever it's called is a confirmation that it's in production.

 

In this span of time, no man's sky released to disappointed reviews, has had several updates, and redeemed itself in the eyes of its fanbase. There have been 2 just cause games. 1 RDR game. 7 main line assassin's creed games. 3 Watch_Dogs games. I know those aren't all exactly massively high quality releases, and I know quality takes time, but this franchise has been dormant aside from GTA V re-releases and the "definitive edition" of the original trilogy and the GTA online updates for 9 years, almost 10. Forget hype train, this is more like a hype 7 month journey to mars. f*ck, man, even STAR CITIZEN has a playable alpha. It'll probably be a playable alpha for the next decade, but it's a playable alpha.

 

This is starting to feel less like quality taking time and more like development hell.

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GTA: OMEGA....because it will be the last GTA

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On 4/28/2022 at 1:04 AM, Racecarlock said:

Seriously, the gap between GTA IV's release and GTA V's reveal trailer was, what, 3 years? And then two years for it to release? Guess what? It has almost been 10 YEARS since GTA V released and all we have of GTA 6 or GTA: Whatever it's called is a confirmation that it's in production.

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This is starting to feel less like quality taking time and more like development hell.

It makes perfect sense because after GTA V came out Rockstar consolidated all their studios to work on one primary project at a time. It's very likely that VI went into pre-production in 2016-'17 and started it's full development sometime in 2018 when their work on RDR2 was almost finished.

 

Games became more and more complex and started to take exponentially longer time to develop in the meantime. BGS, ND and many other developers put out only a couple games last gen, unlike their 7th gen output. 

 

If Rockstar didn't release anything new other than GTAO updates since 2013, then your words would've been truer. But they did make RDR2 in the meantime which is one of the most ambitious games ever made, significantly longer and more complex than any of Rockstar's 7th gen games.

 

So looking at the overall picture a 2023-'24 release, so 5-6 years of full development barring COVID releated setbacks is not at all unrealistic. Mid-Late 2024 release is my best guess. Worst case scenario is 2025.

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1 hour ago, Zapper said:

It makes perfect sense because after GTA V came out Rockstar consolidated all their studios to work on one primary project at a time. It's very likely that VI went into pre-production in 2016-'17 and started it's full development sometime in 2018 when their work on RDR2 was almost finished.

 

Games became more and more complex and started to take exponentially longer time to develop in the meantime. BGS, ND and many other developers put out only a couple games last gen, unlike their 7th gen output. 

 

If Rockstar didn't release anything new other than GTAO updates since 2013, they your words would've held truer. But they did make RDR2 in the meantime which is one of the most ambitious games ever made, significantly longer and more complex than any of Rockstar's 7th gen games.

 

So looking at the overall picture a 2023-'24 release, so 5-6 years of full development barring COVID releated setbacks is not at all unrealistic. Mid-late 2024 release is my best guess. Worst case scenario is 2025.

All of this is correct. It just won't stop people from going crazy with anticipation and hype as a result of the long wait for the next GTA.

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On 4/27/2022 at 8:34 PM, Racecarlock said:

This is starting to feel less like quality taking time and more like development hell.

Just keep in mind that Rockstar shifted to one game at a time. So really, you have to think of RDR2 as GTA 6. Their games are still roughly 5 years apart.

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4 hours ago, Racecarlock said:

All of this is correct. It just won't stop people from going crazy with anticipation and hype as a result of the long wait for the next GTA.

True but 5-6 years of work with their massive manpower and money backing it up is not really insufficient to make something special. I think Rockstar will be fine if the game is technically and mechanically sound at launch, along with their signature world building in play.

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I’ve been thinking they should release the new game titled “Grand Theft Auto” and then expand on it over time.

Instead of constantly releasing a whole new game they would just add new locations for you to travel to along with added missions and content.

Instead of having a defined protagonist you would make your own character that would also be used in GTA Online.

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Tell that to Square Enix and the Final Fantasy XVI development team.

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