What's With the Weekly Updates Since the PS5 & Series Versions?

[ChiroVette]

Okay, maybe this really is just me, and if so, someone please enlighten me; but am I the only one who feels like the weekly updates since they launched whatever it is they're calling E&E now are ridiculously anemic?

 

I mean, a brand new port of GTAV/GTAO launches for literally the last console the game(s) will ever launch on, and not only did it launch with very close to ZERO new content for GTAO and zero content for SP, but in a potential 6 Thursday Updates/Dripfeed opportunities, there has been nothing but a few lackluster sales and same ol' same ol' every time. I mean, I know that Rockstar and Take2 are in business to make money, so I don't think this is being done to intentionally piss people off. I have to ask, though,  how in the hell has there been no actual content other than a handful of HSW vehicles, some new and some old, that you could upgrade, and a small number of extra time trials?

 

If I didn't know better, I would swear that someone at Rockstar is just taking the piss at this point. How do you release an all new version of the game, remastered for new consoles and all; a game with a long and vast history of extensive updates over the past years, and NOTHING?

 

I would almost understand it if this new subscription service was anything but a big, fat nothing burger to bilk people out of their money. Then at least I could roll my eyes and be pissed at the all new pay walls. But even that isn't the case.

 

Maybe someone can explain all this to me, or at least tell me what I'm getting wrong.

 

 

Edited April 21 by ChiroVette

[MaddenedGhost]

I don't even know what the hell is going on with them anymore lol

 

I just want freakin' fixes for the damn thing they have released, that shouldn't take months, the UI still makes me go blind every time due to the broken HDR nonsense they have implemented there, the RT shadows are also broken (put any RT mode and drive in and out of a shadowy area and look how ugly those squares are that appear on your vehicle) then that ghosting effect behind the cars...

 

They are making me really dislike them lately, to the point where I don't even want to open their game.

[Tez2]

You have to remember that E&E was initially planned to release alongside or a bit earlier before the Contract update. Parts of the update may have been scheduled as the drip-feed for the new versions.

[Spider-Vice]

This type of topic has appeared a few times over the years even without a current-gen release. There's simply periods of time where the bonuses aren't as attractive, especially between DLC's, and there's been years where it's been much worse than others. This will likely only change with the Spring/Summer DLC, or maybe after they finish this month focusing on the Career Builder branches (which is why it's all focused on the same businesses).

 

Plus what Tez said about the current-gen versions originally releasing almost alongside The Contract, which would mean they'd have gotten the same gigantic bonuses last-gen and PC did at the time.

[ChiroVette]

13 minutes ago, Tez2 said:

You have to remember that E&E was initially planned to release alongside or a bit earlier before the Contract update. Parts of the update may have been scheduled as the drip-feed for the new versions.

 

I get that. The original release was set for 11/11 of last year. But the thing that bothers me is how bad the timing is, at least from where I'm sitting. I thought the release of the LAST version of this storied, controversial game would have been some sort of a gala event, regarding content. I get your point, and I can see their reasoning. I just can't help rolling my eyes at 6 Thursdays passing since E&E launched, and...nothing; and this coming after a launch for a remastered next-gen version that was itself kind of a big nothing-burger.

 

You want to hear something weird? Yes, this version of the game looks better on my PS5 than the PS4 version. But my my eyes adjust after like 20 minutes. I sort of have to keep reminding myself how things like foliage and details look, because once my eyes adjust, it feels like looking at the PS4 version on my 4K TV.

 

Look, the last thing I want to do is be one of those guys who whinges and bitches all the time. I have been a staunch advocate and sort of defender of both GTAV and GTAO, but I won't lie. This is very disappointing, even if the reason you gave is essentially valid. I mean as one huge fan of this game to another, don't you think that this launch and all the subsequent Thursday updates/sales should have at least made it feel like this was a true refresh of the game with content commensurate with the hype leading to E&E's final launch? Because at the end of the day, I don't feel like it's my problem that they timed this in such a way that the two big updates (Cayo and The Contract) made this E&E launch look anemic and a little pathetic.

 

Well, at least to me.

 

16 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

This type of topic has appeared a few times over the years even without a current-gen release. There's simply periods of time where the bonuses aren't as attractive, especially between DLC's, and there's been years where it's been much worse than others. This will likely only change with the Spring/Summer DLC, or maybe after they finish this month focusing on the Career Builder branches (which is why it's all focused on the same businesses).

 

Plus what Tez said about the current-gen versions originally releasing almost alongside The Contract, which would mean they'd have gotten the same gigantic bonuses last-gen and PC did at the time.

 

Like I said, I get your point. I'm certainly not turning against Rockstar or lol rage quitting GTAO like so many peeps 'round these parts. It's just that with the seriously piddling content for the 6 weeks since E&E launched, I am just a little dumbfounded. Or maybe I'm just dumb, and simply don't get it, I don't know.

[Valiant ENT CEO]

There is nothing "to get". Nothing to understand. Your first thought of "Oh, this is sh*t... There is nothing here" was correct... 

[dieseltech20]

While it is weird, I kind of like it. Was getting burned out on the game and playing it less over the last couple months. I couldn't even make myself take part of the 3x stunt races and I have been in thousands of them. With nothing new I have finally hammered the last nail into the coffin and buried this game. Feels good.

 

Doesn't feel good that the PS5 is now collecting dust though.

[Spider-Vice]

14 hours ago, ChiroVette said:

Like I said, I get your point. I'm certainly not turning against Rockstar or lol rage quitting GTAO like so many peeps 'round these parts. It's just that with the seriously piddling content for the 6 weeks since E&E launched, I am just a little dumbfounded. Or maybe I'm just dumb, and simply don't get it, I don't know.

Nah what I was trying to say as well is that this is cyclical, there's been topics of this type a lot over the years when the bonuses aren't of many people's interest for extended periods of time, and it happens especially in the time between DLC's. Large bonuses like the Contract bonuses spoil us quite a bit because they're huge, so when it goes back to the "typical", and for some straight up "boring" stuff, it can end up feeling lame for a lot of people.

 

I'm more trying to say this is less to do with any current-gen releases or whatever, but rather just a cycle, you can see many comments and even all-out discussions about it over the years. We're just in a lull I guess, and the current-gen release can't really change that as it didn't release alongside any new major content as it originally was supposed to.

On 9/11/2018 at 7:14 PM, Jammsbro said:

Rockstar really are going all out with the weekly bonuses. Keeping every crap bonus in play for two weeks.

 

HEY ROCKSTAR, IS ANYONE IN THERE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN MAKING CONTENT FOR THIS MULTI BILLION DOLLAR GAME?

Thye have made a fortune with the game, but they don't seem to get that they could still make so much more with regular, PLAYABLE content.

[Jamwes]

The bonuses are targeting brand new players this month. The big deals this week is stuff like Nightclub Security Upgrade and Pounder Custom. It's the one time purchase stuff that we all have because we were playing when those DLCs came out. It's going to be terrible discounts for the rest of us until this promo period is over.

[ChiroVette]

2 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

Nah what I was trying to say as well is that this is cyclical, there's been topics of this type a lot over the years when the bonuses aren't of many people's interest for extended periods of time, and it happens especially in the time between DLC's. Large bonuses like the Contract bonuses spoil us quite a bit because they're huge, so when it goes back to the "typical", and for some straight up "boring" stuff, it can end up feeling lame for a lot of people.

 

I'm more trying to say this is less to do with any current-gen releases or whatever, but rather just a cycle, you can see many comments and even all-out discussions about it over the years. We're just in a lull I guess, and the current-gen release can't really change that as it didn't release alongside any new major content as it originally was supposed to.

 

Okay, can I say something not meant with any disrespect here? I don't think you're a Rockstar shill as some in this forum accuse you of, but responses like this kind of make you sound like you are. I know that doesn't sound very fair, because you're just giving your opinion, which is fine. But I think that some people respond to the fact that you often do sound like you aren't just disagreeing, but are also attempting to trivialize complaints that are inherently legitimate. Even if you don't agree with what I am saying here, how can you not acknowledge that this so called E&E launch and all of the updates since have been almost painfully anemic; particularly when you compare the beautiful treatment that GTA V received when it was developed for the PC/PS4/XBone?

 

They hyped this, advertised it, heralded it, and even delayed this so-called next gen version of the game, launching it in its entirety like some glorified dripfeed on March 15th, with a couple of vehicle upgrades, a few exclusive vehicles, and...oooh, look, a new time trial.

 

I have been a GTA V and GTAO proponent and defender for a long time, and even I can't get behind this paltry launch and the embarrassingly scant content since. Don't get me wrong. I am still a huge fan of both V and GTAO, but how can Rockstar and Take2 not be a little ashamed of this, particularly after the ongoing DE debacle? You know, I never thought I would say this, but if the summer update is going to be a big update, then (and God help me) maybe they should have waited to release this alleged E&E until then. If for no other reason than I think it might have been a little less embarrassing. Because I can promise you two things: This new version of GTAV/GTAO is absolutely NOT Expanded, and if it is Enhanced at all, even that really comes off as some effortless half-a-loaf.

 

 

Edited April 22 by ChiroVette

[Spider-Vice]

I was merely stating that this has been object of debate before and it will most likely continue because these weekly bonuses have always been volatile when it comes to people's tastes. I am talking from experience in the community since pretty much the beginning of GTA Online, I'm sorry that anything I say is apparently misconstrued as some kind of "defending". I am not downplaying your complaints, I'm trying to add perspective to the discussion. Christ almighty...

 

Instead of continuing the discussion by disagreeing in some other way, your contribution was having to point out what my reply sounded like.

 

If the current-gen versions were delayed again until the summer so they'd be accompanied with major content we'd have complaints about that instead.

[ChiroVette]

1 hour ago, Spider-Vice said:

Instead of continuing the discussion by disagreeing in some other way, your contribution was having to point out what my reply sounded like.

 

 

Oh here we go. lol What your discussion sounded like as an admin in this forum is actually on topic and fair game, if for no other reason than I firmly believe that what you are expressing here, and how you often trivialize legitimate complaints is actually a huge part of the problem with Rockstar's approach to developing in this game. Not just you, but the pervasive theme through most of the GTA community that is so willing to accept and excuse mediocrity.

 

The difference between you and I is that even though we are both willing to accept the mediocrity, you seem to want to excuse it. I accept the developer mediocrity of E&E in particular only because the overall game is so good that there are unfortunately not a lot of choices in this genre, since GTAO truly has no peer. Rockstar seems more than willing to rest comfortably on their Shark Card laurels, and now what will surely be their GTA+ laurels, and I have a problem with this paradigm. you don't, and I suppose that's fine.

 

But please don't condescend to tell me that my commentary about your response is somehow not moving the discussion forward, when it is my sincere belief that the only reason Rockstar can continue to get away with this in the DE-Era of GTA content, is because of A) Shark Cards, and B) People like yourself, who are willing to defend such a lackluster updates and remasters with zero push-back. So, yeah, pointing out what your response sounds like is fair game. Disagree with my points all you like, that is your right. But please don't troll me by acting like I am trolling you. 

Edited April 22 by ChiroVette

[ChiroVette]

1 hour ago, Jamwes said:

The bonuses are targeting brand new players this month. The big deals this week is stuff like Nightclub Security Upgrade and Pounder Custom. It's the one time purchase stuff that we all have because we were playing when those DLCs came out. It's going to be terrible discounts for the rest of us until this promo period is over.

 

Yeah it sure seems like this. The problem I have here is that, while there are certainly some new players, I am sure that a multitude of people bought this alleged E&E as an upgrade that, so far at least, has spectacularly failed to live up to the promise of both "Expanded" and "Enhanced", the game being barely (and I do mean barely) the later and absolutely none of the former. They really should have done a lot more for the people who took the journey from last gen to this, and in many cases from the PS3/360 era to last gen as well.

[Sam2150AD]

I myself don't think I've experienced the 'Expanded & Enhanced' edition yet.

I've got one new vehicle which was the freebie and I'm playing the game at 60FPS but I suppose that's it really I mean...what 'new' features are there?

I didn't want to restart my career so that wasn't an incentive to me with the 'Career Builder' and I appreciate that was my choice but...you know..

Anyway, I've gone off topic slightly.

Last week I thought the faster research speeds was good (I know, I STILL haven't unlocked everything) but I mean apart from that....This weeks is a bit sh*t and I've already made my comments about that on a previous topic.

I bought Lego Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga last night so....

[Frabbi 01]

Everything after 2018 went downhill. We were given more than enough time to grind hundreds of millions until the next dlc, which was the casino. That barely added anything.

The casino heist was next, which was awesome, but then the long boring wait began again, with the summer 2020 non-update.

Cayo? Amazing, but at that point it was too late, as there wasnt enough continuing content to keep people playing (and I'm focusing on people that have been playing for 2+ years at this point, just to be clear).

2021 was pretty much planting flowers near the headstone. Summer brought us tuners, which really didnt add anything to do aside from a few races, which we have more than enough.

Then the contract was worth doing once, all copy and paste style missions, with low pay. So for the last year and a half, the game's been a zombie, unless you're new, which I'm guessing most people here aren't...

 

Seriously, for them to keep the game alive and fun, we need 4 updates a year again, and they all should just follow this format:

New city

Heist

Fully customizable properties

A few contact missions and races

Maybe 10 new cars, as the game is saturated with them now

A couple creative new weapons and maybe some clothing (just stop with all this logo clothing though)

 

There. That's all you need.

To be fair, at this point 99% of their team is probably working on GTA6 now so I don't expect much until after that releases. At least in the next year+ we have Starfield, Saints Row, and BOTW2!

[Jenkiiii]

Seriously, you're not going out of your mind @ChiroVette. You think maybe you are, but you're not. I was at the point of no return last year when I quit playing for a few months, but a few things happened. Firstly, I'm a sad old git who finds it difficult to change my routine and even leave the house (I work at home) and have become dependent on GTA online as a 'good old friend', and secondly, I buy into all the hype like so many of us do, believing that something great is just around the corner, probably anticipating the next summer update, which I  am sure will be adequate.

 

But it doesn't get around the fact that E&E was a poorly timed f*ck up with little or no new content. It made us feel that everything would upgraded and fresh and worth owning a next-gen console for and, in some respects it is, but 90% suggests that it is not until we get exclusive new content that old-gen consoles can no longer handle, which then justifies having new hardware. And then Rockstar pulled the crazy stunt of announcing GTA+ just as we were getting our heads around E&E being a vapid pile of emperor's new clothes. The rumor is, they don't care what we think and who they piss off anymore. They want us off old-gen and geared to next-gen franchises with Sony, Microsoft, Amazon, etc., to sell more consoles and regurgitated content.

 

In many ways, we jumped too whole-heartedly and enthusiastically into E&E and are now feeling the pinch of effective nothingness. I personally feel silly because I followed Rockstar like a headless chicken when I really don't care; however, when the next DLC comes out I'll probably change my tune when there is exclusive next-gen content that satisfies my bipolar requirements for the time being .

 

[ChiroVette]

4 hours ago, Sam2150AD said:

I myself don't think I've experienced the 'Expanded & Enhanced' edition yet.

 

 

Same here. To me, it really feels like they just phoned it in, and couldn't be bothered to get out of bed to work on this. Just dial up a few pixels and add anti-aliasing or something, increase the frames, and call it a day. Again, I am not soured on the game. It was free, after all, at least the Online part. I just don't get it. First DE was botched top to bottom, and now this was just so much less than a good remaster and more like some lazy port.

 

2 hours ago, Jenkiiii said:

Seriously, you're not going out of your mind @ChiroVette. You think maybe you are, but you're not. I was at the point of no return last year when I quit playing for a few months, but a few things happened. Firstly, I'm a sad old git who finds it difficult to change my routine and even leave the house (I work at home) and have become dependent on GTA online as a 'good old friend', and secondly, I buy into all the hype like so many of us do, believing that something great is just around the corner, probably anticipating the next summer update, which I  am sure will be adequate.

 

But it doesn't get around the fact that E&E was a poorly timed f*ck up with little or no new content. It made us feel that everything would upgraded and fresh and worth owning a next-gen console for and, in some respects it is, but 90% suggests that it is not until we get exclusive new content that old-gen consoles can no longer handle, which then justifies having new hardware. And then Rockstar pulled the crazy stunt of announcing GTA+ just as we were getting our heads around E&E being a vapid pile of emperor's new clothes. The rumor is, they don't care what we think and who they piss off anymore. They want us off old-gen and geared to next-gen franchises with Sony, Microsoft, Amazon, etc., to sell more consoles and regurgitated content.

 

In many ways, we jumped too whole-heartedly and enthusiastically into E&E and are now feeling the pinch of effective nothingness. I personally feel silly because I followed Rockstar like a headless chicken when I really don't care; however, when the next DLC comes out I'll probably change my tune when there is exclusive next-gen content that satisfies my bipolar requirements for the time being .

 

 

Regarding the part of your post I underlined and bolded, it honestly feels like they didn't even respect the GTA community enough to lie to us! I am not a coder. I am not savvy when it comes to updates like Cayo and The Contract. In fact, I think most people aren't. Had they launched this alleged E&E simultaneously with either Cayo or The Contract I would NOT have known any better, and I would have thought they really did a bang-up job on E&E. I would have been like..."Oooh, wow! Look at the trippy new tropical island, and...Whoa! Holy sh*t you can do solo heists and make a fortune. Damn this E&E rocks!"

 

I know this sounds completely stupid, because it's like I'm begging Rockstar to lie to me. But...ya know, ignorance is bliss, and I would have been so blown away by all the new content combined with the framerate and stepped up visuals, plus the HSW stuff exclusive to this gen consoles that I would have never known that they simply couldn't be bothered to actually give GTA V/GTAO a little love.

 

By the way, are you on the PS5? Because if you are, we should play together. If you want I can really help you grind out money, or we can just muck about with others perhaps from this forum and start some kind of a crew. Hell, I'll join yours if you have one. If not, maybe we should try and get other PS5 E&E people together.

[Jenkiiii]

3 hours ago, ChiroVette said:

By the way, are you on the PS5? Because if you are, we should play together. If you want I can really help you grind out money, or we can just muck about with others perhaps from this forum and start some kind of a crew. Hell, I'll join yours if you have one. If not, maybe we should try and get other PS5 E&E people together.

 

Bro, I play on Xbox, not that it really matters anymore. I'm really unsociable and selective as I get older. No offence, you're one of the better posters these days.

[Snakeywakey389]

4 hours ago, Jenkiiii said:

 

Bro, I play on Xbox, not that it really matters anymore. I'm really unsociable and selective as I get older. No offence, you're one of the better posters these days.

I get that. I tend to keep to myself too. I find myself playing less and less and only logging in to either sell a frozen money car or go blow up a Stand Your Ground with a sub missile occasionally.

[MaddenedGhost]

On 4/23/2022 at 3:04 AM, Snakeywakey389 said:

I get that. I tend to keep to myself too. I find myself playing less and less and only logging in to either sell a frozen money car or go blow up a Stand Your Ground with a sub missile occasionally.

I am playing less primarily because some genius at Rockstar thought that it was a good idea to delete my old progress on PS4, and since I am the only one in my group of friends that was fortunate enough to get a PS5, I am "playing" alone.

 

I am playing less because as much as I really wanted to play this game in 4k and 60fps, they were also accompanied with bugs and glitches, which are still there 6 weeks after this release, there should have been a patch for this nonsense during the past month, companies released patches and fixes for actual new games multiple times just during past two months, so what's going on with Rockstar?

 

I am playing less because instead of giving me content and something to play, they give me GTA+ instead.

 

I am playing less due to Rockstar's recent stupid decisions regarding this release.

 

I've defended Rockstar many many times, I have also ranted at them many many times, this is one of them times where they have really annoyed me.

 

 

Edited April 24 by The_Ghost

[Jenkiiii]

On 4/23/2022 at 12:04 AM, Snakeywakey389 said:

I get that. I tend to keep to myself too. I find myself playing less and less and only logging in to either sell a frozen money car or go blow up a Stand Your Ground with a sub missile occasionally.

I play in free-aim lobbies out of choice and there are literally the same 10 or 12 people cycling through the session, it never changes. If you lobby hop you always spawn in the same lobby.

 

In some respects this is good because you quickly get to know the perpetual griefers and take action accordingly, just as they learn not to mess with you, but it's so weird having such ittle variety.

 

Maybe lobbies are locked to specific regions around the world, but when I switch to assisted aim I invariably end up in lobbies with old mates from the USA and UK. How can there be so few people playing these days? Just like there is hardly anyone on these forums.

 

Obviously, as Rockstar stop support for old gen in future updates, perhaps this summer, more and more people will switch to next gen and the numbers will increase, but this is kinda spooky at the moment. When you switch between assisted-aim lobbies with 24 to 30 players in them it gives the impression of lobbies being packed, but that's an inaccurate truth. Free-aim lobbies show how dead the game actually is.

 

I imagine Rockstar decided to go under the radar with E&E and GTA+ right in the middle of DLCs (the doldrums) instead of making bigger waves in the summer, but they've also exposed themselves as being rather tight, skimpy and devious.

 

Either way, I still have a lot of hope for future GTA when you consider the amount of vapid advertising and menu tweaks going on in the background, but boy, this is the weirdest Schrodinger's cat example I can think of, especially as bug fixes are glaringly absent in what should be their next-gen showpiece.

 

The last two evenings I've watched the first four episodes of Outer Range on Amazon Prime, which are much more satisfying than this bizarre time-warp transition currently implemented by Rockstar.

 

 

[dieseltech20]

11 hours ago, Jenkiiii said:

. How can there be so few people playing these days? Just like there is hardly anyone on these forums.

 

 

 

 

I chock it up to a combination of there not being anything new to do and many players being bored of this game that is nearly a decade old and consists of nothing but the same few basic tasks/jobs in different skins.

 

I got tired of the game allowing less and less freedom with every update. Playing through The Contract pissed me off like nothing else in the game. Can't use CEO services, can't use personal vehicle, can't call Pegasus, etc. f*ck you, R*, I'm playing this sh*t by myself and should be allowed to play it however the f*ck I want.

[ChiroVette]

On 4/24/2022 at 1:27 AM, The_Ghost said:

I am playing less primarily because some genius at Rockstar thought that it was a good idea to delete my old progress on PS4, and since I am the only one in my group of friends that was fortunate enough to get a PS5, I am "playing" alone.

 

 

How did this happen? I'm assuming by the tone of this post that you weren't one of the players who chose to start over and delete their PS4 save when upgrading to the PS5? If so, have you been in touch with Rockstar's customer support about it? Maybe someone can find your PS4 save in some archive or something?

[MaddenedGhost]

57 minutes ago, ChiroVette said:

 

How did this happen? I'm assuming by the tone of this post that you weren't one of the players who chose to start over and delete their PS4 save when upgrading to the PS5? If so, have you been in touch with Rockstar's customer support about it? Maybe someone can find your PS4 save in some archive or something?

I am talking about my online progress, if you made the transfer to PS5, your progress on old gen gets wiped out, I don't know why, but some genius at Rockstar thought it was a good idea.

 

Since they weren't providing anything significant content wise, it would have been ideal for me to go back to old gen whenever I want to play with friends, but I can't do that now since I am forced to start over if I wanted to.

 

My friends don't have PS5s yet so they aren't on the platform yet, splitting our crew, for no reason whatsoever.

 

They probably think this will incite people to go out there and look for a PS5, and they would be stupid to think so.

[ChiroVette]

4 hours ago, The_Ghost said:

I am talking about my online progress, if you made the transfer to PS5, your progress on old gen gets wiped out, I don't know why, but some genius at Rockstar thought it was a good idea.

 

Since they weren't providing anything significant content wise, it would have been ideal for me to go back to old gen whenever I want to play with friends, but I can't do that now since I am forced to start over if I wanted to.

 

My friends don't have PS5s yet so they aren't on the platform yet, splitting our crew, for no reason whatsoever.

 

They probably think this will incite people to go out there and look for a PS5, and they would be stupid to think so.

 

Sorry, I'm still confused here. I have a feeling I am misunderstanding you, so please correct me if I am. Using myself as an example, I had a very well evolved/progressed save in GTAO on the PS4. When I upgraded to the PS5 version of the game, upon its launch, I was asked if I wanted to delete the progress on my PS4 save, to which I said no. In other words, I wanted to have the progress of my PS4 save for GTAO transfer to my PS5 account, which it did, and quite seamlessly. So what am I missing here? I wasn't forced to start over, I was given a choice.

 

If you're complaining that you can't play with all your friends on PS4 anymore, I'm with you on that! I hate that I had to abandon all my GTA friends who don't have a PS5, too. But it sounds like you may have mistakenly told the game you wanted to delete your PS4 save when you transferred to the PS5?

[Spider-Vice]

Your previous-gen save is actually deleted as per even R* Support. I think that's a really odd decision myself, as a lot of people will still want to go back and play with friends who only have PS4's. There's no choice, migration of your current GTAO progress to current gen = deletion from previous gen. I think that's what Ghost meant.

 

https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/4765704503827/Migrating-your-GTA-Online-Profile-from-PlayStation-4-or-Xbox-One-to-PlayStation-5-or-Xbox-Series-X-S

 

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IMPORTANT: Once your progress has been transferred from PlayStation 4 or Xbox One to PlayStation 5 or Xbox Series X|S, your migrated profile will no longer be available on PlayStation 4 or Xbox One. 

 

[MaddenedGhost]

3 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

Your previous-gen save is actually deleted as per even R* Support. I think that's a really odd decision myself, as a lot of people will still want to go back and play with friends who only have PS4's. There's no choice, migration of your current GTAO progress to current gen = deletion from previous gen. I think that's what Ghost meant.

 

https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/4765704503827/Migrating-your-GTA-Online-Profile-from-PlayStation-4-or-Xbox-One-to-PlayStation-5-or-Xbox-Series-X-S

 

 

Yes, this is what I am referring to, they are forcing us to delete our progress on old generation if we transfer them to PS5, "odd" isn't the word for it, "stupid" and "dumb" are better.

 

If, and this is a big IF, they have a reason, they should clear it up and tell us what it is instead of this garbage they pulled.

 

We were able to keep our PS3 progress for years and years after transferring to PS4, what's the reason for that to change now? are they trynna push people to go out there and get a new console? if so then they'd be mistaken because people aren't refusing to buy the consoles, they can't even find them.

 

This is just a stupid decision, there's nothing else to it.

[ChiroVette]

10 hours ago, The_Ghost said:

Yes, this is what I am referring to, they are forcing us to delete our progress on old generation if we transfer them to PS5, "odd" isn't the word for it, "stupid" and "dumb" are better.

 

If, and this is a big IF, they have a reason, they should clear it up and tell us what it is instead of this garbage they pulled.

 

We were able to keep our PS3 progress for years and years after transferring to PS4, what's the reason for that to change now? are they trynna push people to go out there and get a new console? if so then they'd be mistaken because people aren't refusing to buy the consoles, they can't even find them.

 

This is just a stupid decision, there's nothing else to it.

 

Ah okay I was misunderstanding you then. I thought you said that your old PS4 save was deleted not only off the PS4 but that it didn't migrate all your progress to the PS5. You are complaining that you can't play off both saves, which I agree with. It's a little silly of them, if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, I do see a potential issues with transferring progress back and forth post-migration. I get why it would be problematic to keep updating both saves, in perpetuity, as you play on both at different times. But they could handle this easily enough by making a demarcation between the PS4 GTAO save and the PS5 GTAO save. So that now (ya know, in exchange for our money lol) you have two completely separate GTAO saves

 

Kind of like a clone. Each on starts from the point the two saves/clones split. So when you play on the PS4, and you can keep evolving that save and only that save. But while you play on the PS5, you evolve and add to only that save.

 

The thing is there's precedent to this, too. Many people have more than one GTAO save on the same account/game. Just instead of making the starting point of the new save ZERO everything, just make the starting point  where the two diverged.

 

See, this right here is precisely why I scoff at ALL microtransactions sales on this game! Ha, the people who bundle these DLCs really are bunch of morons sometimes. This is something I would actually purchase! I have never bought a shark card in all my years playing GTA V. I never will. I am not the least bit interested in this toxic waste GTA Minus subscription service. But tell me that I can pay $5.00 USD to keep my PS4 save on the PS4 servers and still have a separate PS5 save, and I would have to seriously consider purchasing it. I'm not saying I would. GTAO on the PS5 is keeping me plenty busy. But I would consider it, a helluva lot more than anything they have ever offered before. There are other things they could sell that if they were priced nominally and fairly, I would consider buying them. But that is another topic.

Edited April 26 by ChiroVette

[MaddenedGhost]

1 hour ago, ChiroVette said:

 

Ah okay I was misunderstanding you then. I thought you said that your old PS4 save was deleted not only off the PS4 but that it didn't migrate all your progress to the PS5. You are complaining that you can't play off both saves, which I agree with. It's a little silly of them, if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, I do see a potential issues with transferring progress back and forth post-migration. I get why it would be problematic to keep updating both saves, in perpetuity, as you play on both at different times. But they could handle this easily enough by making a demarcation between the PS4 GTAO save and the PS5 GTAO save. So that now (ya know, in exchange for our money lol) you have two completely separate GTAO saves

 

Kind of like a clone. Each on starts from the point the two saves/clones split. So when you play on the PS4, and you can keep evolving that save and only that save. But while you play on the PS5, you evolve and add to only that save.

I think you are still misunderstanding what I am saying, I am not talking about the "save" as in the save file for storymode or whatever? I am talking about the online progress, back when we went from PS3 to PS4, we transferred, yet we were still able to play on PS3 with our characters, it doesn't update both, it separates them, when I transferred from PS3 I was a level 500 I am now a 1000 on PS4, but I was still able to go back and play with my level 500 on PS3 up until they shut the servers down last December.

 

Here, they for whatever reason decided to change that, and instead of separating them, they deleted the PS4 one.

 

[ChiroVette]

38 minutes ago, The_Ghost said:

I am talking about the online progress,

 

 

Apparently I wasn't misunderstanding you, well at least with my last post lol. I was talking about online progress. I have several 100% completion saves on both my PS3 and my PC, but when I purchased the PS4 version, back in June of 2020, it was because I wanted to play GTAO, having not had any real experience with it. So I went in with a clean slate, so to speak. Even though I did a bunch of stuff in SP (about 1/3 of the story and pretty much all the collectibles open early in the game) I opted not to transfer my SP save over. At some point, I will simply start over with a fresh GTA V save for that.

 

I have no idea why the saves on PS4/PS5 aren't at least "separable" if not interchangeable, but the way someone explained it to me in the forum when I asked about the same thing is that there would be huge issues with lag and other incompatibilities with the current gen and last gen version. I have no idea if this is true or just yet more of Rockstar's laziness, but my understanding is that there are logistical reasons why the two saves are incompatible from the standpoint of at least playing cross-platform or cross-gen with the current iteration of GTAO.

 

This could be total bullsh*t, but I am not a coder, so I don't know whether or not cross-gen-platform is even possible with E&E and PS4 versions, or between XBone and Series S/X. Although, I do have to ask myself, if Cross-Gen play was possible, then why not allow it the way they did with the PS3/PS4? Can't there be some other reason aside from developer laziness? Maybe it is developer laziness, but maybe not is my point. 

Edited April 26 by ChiroVette