Introducing GTA+ - Reward-based Subscription for GTA Online

[Tez2]

inb4 GTA+ members receive most of the upcoming PvP balance adjustments because non-subscribers started targeting them.

[ilRae]

5 minutes ago, halifaxbboy said:

Sooo did anyone over rank 200 actually get GTA+?

I am 1269, legit.

[Tez2]

2 minutes ago, Quinn_flower said:

theres alot of items unreleased including the Halloween parashoot bag which is going to be a gta+ reward for entry price of $6. 

 

if its in the game files and not a separate download then it should of been released.

 

now if it has it own depot on steam and i have to download it then yes charge because its not in the base files locked. 

Rockstar owns the game files. Doesn't matter if you have the content in your game files or not.

[Spider-Vice]

1 minute ago, Tez2 said:

inb4 GTA+ members receive most of the upcoming PvP balance adjustments because non-subscribers started targeting them.

There's no indicator so that helps. Unless griefers start targetting anyone with a Deveste Eight which would be the most childish thing ever lmao. Then again what griefer in GTAO isn't childish?

[Kirsty]

1 minute ago, Tez2 said:

GTA+ members

I think we should call them Plusies.

[halifaxbboy]

2 minutes ago, ilRae said:

I am 1269, legit.

Curious, what were your reasons for getting GTA+?

[SHOKKERZ91]

1 minute ago, Tez2 said:

inb4 GTA+ members receive most of the upcoming PvP balance adjustments because non-subscribers started targeting them.

 

So they get reduced homing missile tracking and removal of explosive ammo for vehicles? Im fine with that. lol

[Ash_735]

3 minutes ago, ilRae said:

but let's stop acting like your world just got crushed because R* needs to pay devs what they deserve.

NOOOOO no no no, let's not fall for that one. Rockstar are one of the most profitable companies and GTAOnline combined with Shark Cards sales have kept them a float for nearly a decade now, they make MORE per month than most full release titles, they are NOT struggling and they could give everyone a raise and it still wouldn't bite into the profits generated by GTAO. If you really think GTA+ is just so they can afford to pay their team then you are very mistaken.

[Edward85]

1 minute ago, Spider-Vice said:

There's no indicator so that helps. Unless griefers start targetting anyone with a Deveste Eight which would be the most childish thing ever lmao. Then again what griefer in GTAO isn't childish?

technically there was no indicator in FO76 unless you chose to use the icon, or wear the NCR outfit, if you are wearing any of the GTA+ clothes you could be a target, I have no doubt that a war will start unironically, it's only a matter of time before we start seeing a bunch of people dressed as clowns in protest

[WildBrick142]

4 minutes ago, Quinn_flower said:

if its in the game files and not a separate download then it should of been released

 

 

i dislike companies who does this locking content behind a paywall...

 

literally every single paid dlc for any online or co-op-supported game works this way. anything that other players will be able to see (in gta's case - cars and clothing) must be included in the game files for the sake of compatibility. doesn't matter if it's paid or not.

[Quinn_flower]

7 minutes ago, ilRae said:

Look... I know so many have a hatred for this, and originally I thought it was a stupid idea, but after reading such idiotic takes all weekend about it, I decided to buy it for sh*ts and giggles. It has little value over all to me (this month), I have everything I could ever want in the game, but the notion that this is the end of gaming, or R*, is just silly. I probably wouldn't have even questioned this if it were there when GTAO released, especially after seeing all the updates I paid zero for. Heck, I pay $8 a month for a Minecraft realm I don't even use anymore. GTA+ isn't for everyone, and that's fine, but let's stop acting like your world just got crushed because R* needs to pay devs what they deserve.

 

when r* does more and actually does updates not reskins or rehashed ideas and not forgetting rdr 2 then i would consider giving them money. 

 

till then as a consumer im not happy and they aren't getting a cent out of me. i rather donate to humble bundle than r* the company. the devs are just working people who have no say because of take 2 

 

didnt you buy gta v? 

 

no epic did so thanks epic 

 

 

Edited March 29, 2022 by Quinn_flower

[ilRae]

Just now, Ash_735 said:

NOOOOO no no no, let's not fall for that one. Rockstar are one of the most profitable companies and GTAOnline combined with Shark Cards sales have kept them a float for nearly a decade now, they make MORE per month than most full release titles, they are NOT struggling and they could give everyone a raise and it still wouldn't bite into the profits generated by GTAO. If you really think GTA+ is just so they can afford to pay their team then you are very mistaken.

You really need to take a business class if that is how you think the world works. Monthly revenue is not a one to one to profit. 

 

5 minutes ago, halifaxbboy said:

Curious, what were your reasons for getting GTA+?

The stupid takes here this weekend drove me to it.

[blk95ta]

If R☆ can't even be bothered to fix a simple car bug, why would I buy the game again a 3rd time or pay for GTA+?

 

 

Edited March 29, 2022 by blk95ta

[Ash_735]

Just now, ilRae said:

You really need to take a business class if that is how you think the world works. Monthly revenue is not a one to one to profit. 

Dude, stop, we've even got the CEO of Take-Two himself admitting they want to monetise GTAO as they think they're currently not making enough from it and that there's profits to be had in a previous investor call.

[Edward85]

I saw a thing about a protest over on reddit, apparently a bunch of people aren't playing today in protest, forgot about that till just now, just logged on and the first lobby I was in was full

[Quinn_flower]

Just now, Ash_735 said:

Dude, stop, we've even got the CEO of Take-Two himself admitting they want to monetise GTAO as they think they're currently not making enough from it and that there's profits to be had in a previous investor call.

yes didnt he say he doesnt like the people who doesnt buy shark cards one time in a interview? 

[ilRae]

1 minute ago, Ash_735 said:

Dude, stop, we've even got the CEO of Take-Two himself admitting they want to monetise GTAO as they think they're currently not making enough from it and that there's profits to be had in a previous investor call.

A public, for-profit company wants to further monetize their products? No f*cking way...

[Ash_735]

Just now, Edward85 said:

I saw a thing about a protest over on reddit, apparently a bunch of people aren't playing today in protest, forgot about that till just now, just logged on and the first lobby I was in was full

Yeah that's how lobbies work, they'll round you up into the most active ones. A protest in this case is pointless as GTAO/RDRO doesn't even have dedicated servers so there's no real way of tracking how much activity is up or down.

Just now, ilRae said:

A public, for-profit company wants to further monetize their products? No f*cking way...

Stop deluding yourself and making excuses for it then, YOU'RE the one who tried to frame this as "oh but this is so the poor devs can get paid", at least have the balls to admit like most that this is a profit play.

[ilRae]

2 minutes ago, Edward85 said:

I saw a thing about a protest over on reddit, apparently a bunch of people aren't playing today in protest, forgot about that till just now, just logged on and the first lobby I was in was full

If Reddit is good for one thing it's half-assing protests.

[Edward85]

1 minute ago, Ash_735 said:

Yeah that's how lobbies work, they'll round you up into the most active ones. A protest in this case is pointless as GTAO/RDRO doesn't even have dedicated servers so there's no real way of tracking how much activity is up or down.

I mean, I've definitely been in plenty of lobbies where there were only a few people, but yeah, I guess that just furthers the point that lobby size isn't indicative of player count

[Jamwes]

32 minutes ago, Buddy Hightower said:

You should have included an option for  "Maybe a month here and there - not continual"

 

Agreed. I'll look at the bonuses and if there is something there that I must have then I'll pay the $6 for it. It's highly doubtful that'll happen unless it's Sprunk related. 

[(Vip)Met]

54 minutes ago, needforsuv said:

I was expecting more

 

 

[needforsuv]

8 minutes ago, blk95ta said:

If R☆ can't even be bothered to fix a simple car bug, why would I buy the game again a 3rd time or pay for GTA+?

 

 

TBF, they never fixed a lot of things.
 

Like how the Ztype is offset to one side.

 

The wheels on oneside are closer to the fender than the other.

Edited March 29, 2022 by needforsuv

[lnterloper]

3 minutes ago, ilRae said:

Look... I know so many have a hatred for this, and originally I thought it was a stupid idea, but after reading such idiotic takes all weekend about it, I decided to buy it for sh*ts and giggles. It has little value over all to me (this month), I have everything I could ever want in the game, but the notion that this is the end of gaming, or R*, is just silly. I probably wouldn't have even questioned this if it were there when GTAO released, especially after seeing all the updates I paid zero for. Heck, I pay $8 a month for a Minecraft realm I don't even use anymore. GTA+ isn't for everyone, and that's fine, but let's stop acting like your world just got crushed because R* needs to pay devs what they deserve.

 

 

 

GTA V / On-line is "the most successful entertainment product in history", they don't need GTA+ to pay the programmers well.

 

I used to maintain a large Team Speak Server and multiple Team Fortress 2 clan servers for free for the community, from my own pocket, money is round to roll, but there are bad investments, and good ones, throwing a bone for Rockstar now, is like giving candies to your kid every time it throws a tantrum, it's just bad conditioning, and this comes from someone that bought more than 10 Shark Cards just to "support the developer".

 

Things that would be ok for Rockstar to monetize on:

 

Storage DLC: Not everyone needs to have all the cars in game, for a DLC fee, they could get the ultra enthusiasts to get more garage space for a car game.

 

Passive DLC: For a one time fee you get an army of NPCs, all your business will work passively, but all your infrastructure is vulnerable (you have to protect your NPCs in that session, once they are dead you have cool downs and such for balance)

 

Sponsorship DLC: Racing / Arena War is not as profitable as other business ventures, for a small fee, you could have your $ per hour boosted as your AP / Reputation.

[Quinn_flower]

Thanks whales and plusies for the next dlc i guess 

 

if gta+ existed in 2013 ok fine but its 8 years old and now they released it because they want to look good on their quarterly 

Edited March 29, 2022 by Quinn_flower

[GTAJJ]

31 minutes ago, Edward85 said:

saying they're earnable is disingenuous AT BEST, because no, they actually stopped being earnable I think around AW (or started, either way in some CODs they definitely weren't earnable)

 

My post to you I linked every game with articles of how you earn them...

 

33 minutes ago, Edward85 said:

there was ZERO chance you could earn enough to get EVERY possible loot box item,

 

Incorrect, just very slim. And that chance is still more than the chance I can earn items from the storefront in MW2019, Cold War and Vanguard.

 

35 minutes ago, Edward85 said:

it would literally take you over $10k to get every loot box item

 

And it would take you over $10k in shard cards with the infinite possibilities when paying out GTA$. However there is a clear choice in this system - now we don't.

 

37 minutes ago, Edward85 said:

and in that game better weapons were locked behind the loot box system

 

If you were to read my "wall of text", you wouldn't need to type that as I've already addressed that. I suggest you to actually read the points I made before repeating said points I have already explained many many posts ago to you and in the topic. You need to understand the difference between a delivery system and the corporate choices they manipulate said system. And most importantly understand how they still carry those manipulative decisions through other systems today - GTA+.

 

41 minutes ago, Edward85 said:

ffs you say they are optional, WELL SO ARE THE STORE BUNDLES!!

 

Lootboxes on COD

Option 1 - Pay for them

Option 2 - Grind them for free

 

Store Bundles on COD

Option 1 - Pay for them

Option 2 - Pay for them

 

GTA Now

Option 1 - Pay for them

Option 2 - Grind them for free

 

GTA +

Option 1 - Pay for them

Option 2 - Pay for them

 

See where it's going?

[skyfamster]

The"extra and bonu"pic's four thirt is from nightclub DLC,they were planning to lock these behind paywall back then. 

 

[WildBrick142]

Just now, needforsuv said:

TBF, they never fixed a lot of things.
 

Like how the Ztype is offset to one side.

i could be naming examples of broken things with cars aallllllllllll day long

 

i really gotta go finish that project someday

[Edward85]

8 minutes ago, blk95ta said:

If R☆ can't even be bothered to fix a simple car bug, why would I buy the game again a 3rd time or pay for GTA+?

 

 

1 minute ago, needforsuv said:

TBF, they never fixed a lot of things.
 

Like how the Ztype is offset to one side.

I definitely understand wanting bugs to be fixed, but literally every piece of software ever coded has bugs with the exception of "hello world", and most "final" products, especially games, still have bugs to this day, Skyrim is a prime example of this, there are day one bugs unfixed to this day even after multiple relaunches, as long as the bugs are inconsequential I don't mind if they are low on the teams priority list, that said some of the GTA bugs, while not game breaking, are mission breaking and should be of a higher priority

[GTAJJ]

In before Rockstar put out all the stops to bombard you with in-game advertising of GTA+.