Introducing GTA+ - Reward-based Subscription for GTA Online

[Scott Stapp]

Full game: $60

A jet: $60 worth of shart cards

 

Are they trying to tell us this is how much it costs to maintain servers? Because the production costs of such "content" don't add up. If so, GTA+ is too little too late. Greed is one thing, hubris is another. Loot boxes and microtransactions are begging to be regulated. 

 

Edited March 29, 2022 by Scott Stapp

[Spear97]

1 hour ago, needforsuv said:

GTA+ goes live when

Now Live find it in the Online tab 

[Hécate-II]

7 hours ago, Mexicola9302 said:

11.475.000 for all fast track research + cheapest bunker (1,165,000) + bunker upgrades (1.4m ish) + cheapest Nightclub (1,080,000) + upgrades (2,7m ish) + Oppressor MK2 (3,890,250) + Terrorbyte (3,459,500)

 

It's more in the 25-30million that you need not 50m, well the classic griefer pack Oppressor MK2 + MK2 weapons.

 

Edit: Forgotten you also need a MC clubhouse but these are cheap, well or the cheapest office.

 

Nah they get too several cars with missiles, MK2 griefers also use Deluxos and stuff like that, its just they love their broom so much, but they also have Khanjali, jets, Akula...

 

25 Mio is the poor fck Starter Pack. Just average gamer that will grind Cayo setups with broom and play "Co-Op PVE" aka speedrunning Contact Missions with the same broom in order to earn 5k $. 

[Mexicola9302]

The ingame economy should be rebalanced.

 

OG Contact missions should be permanent 3-4x money & RP

Races and Stunt Races also 3-4x money & RP

OG Heists 2-3x money & RP

CEO Crates 2x money & RP

Biker Businesses 2x money & RP

Hangar Cargo 8x money & RP (I mean seriously it's the most tedious business of them all)

Bunker +50% money & RP + 25% faster production

Nighclub accrue product +25% faster

CEO/VIP freeroam interaction menu missions 2x money & RP

Biker Contracts 2x money & RP

Tuners Races 2-3x money & RP & REP

Arena Wars 3x money & RP & Arena Points (also we should get AP for just idling in the Arena)

In General every Adversary Mode should be 3x money & RP while it's available

 

The list could go on and on, everything needs to get buffed, and most certainly not only for GTA+ subscribers. They could get a +1x on everything.

[Need For Madness Auto]

Deveste 8 HSW upgrade now available?

Edited March 29, 2022 by Need For Madness Auto

[Tez2]

GTA+ went live an hour ago.

 

Interesting enough, the bonuses and discounts aren't applied via a targeted tunables. What I refer to by "targeted tunables" is a server-side privilege given to select members of the community that upon downloading the live tunables, the server redirects them to a version with a few extra stuff. Prime Gaming members utilize the targeted tunables.

 

This, however, is the same live tunables, but with variables reserved for GTA+ members. This means Rockstar added new tunable variables with PS5/XSX for GTA+ members. Thus, obviously the PC version would require a new update to have these new variables, in the case Rockstar wants to add GTA+ to PC.

 

On the bright side, figuring out GTA+ bonuses without owning the subscription is much easier now. However, I am sure Rockstar would announce them in advance.

Edited March 29, 2022 by Tez2

[Need For Madness Auto]

[needforsuv]

18 minutes ago, Tez2 said:

nteresting enough, the bonuses and discounts aren't applied via a targeted tunables.

meaning they wouldn't have to wait for things to activate I guess

[SqualidCoyote]

Play about 20 minutes of the Dispatch missions currently paying out double and you've just saved yourself £5-99. What a crap offer!

[BakeWithMe1000]

[Wurmy]

These are some real crap values on the shark cards you get with gta+

 

[Tez2]

Bruh moment.

 

      "e": "news",
      "d": {
        "ts": 1648545932,
        "exp": 1669199132,
        "t": [
          "store"
        ],
        "k": "faadd9a989144c1e910ecf04", //"This Month's GTA+ Membership Benefits"
        "p": 1,
        "sk": 2241858075,
        "ic": 100
      }

 

Back in October 2021, me and @alloc8or noticed these two new variables called "ic" and "sd" added to news.json out of nowhere. We were curious what they were about since these two variables weren't listed within GTAV executable at the time.

 

Now, as you can see, one of the variables is used for a GTA+ feed post. This shows how far has Rockstar planned for GTA+ to be a thing.

Edited March 29, 2022 by Tez2

[Spider-Vice]

2 minutes ago, Tez2 said:

Bruh moment.

 

      "e": "news",
      "d": {
        "ts": 1648545932,
        "exp": 1669199132,
        "t": [
          "store"
        ],
        "k": "faadd9a989144c1e910ecf04", //"This Month's GTA+ Membership Benefits"
        "p": 1,
        "sk": 2241858075,
        "ic": 100
      }

 

Back in October 2021, me and @alloc8or noticed these two new variables called "ic" and "sd" added to news.json. We were curious what they were about since these two variables weren't listed within GTAV executable at the time.

 

Now, as you can see, one of the variables is used for a GTA+ feed post. This shows how far has Rockstar planned for GTA+ to be a thing.

What do they mean I wonder though? Couldn't they have been previously used for the previous Prime or targetted discount stuff?

[Tez2]

9 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

What do they mean I wonder though? Couldn't they have been previously used for the previous Prime or targetted discount stuff?

Nah, they were added out of nowhere in October 2021. Rockstar, for some reason, added them to the current-gen news.json.

 

Whoever was in charge of that file was likely not supposed to do that and overlap the PS5 & XSX version with the current-gen version. Regardless, these two variables didn't exist within the executable until the Contract DLC update dropped which contained E&E leftovers. These two variables were added to the executable with the Contract DLC, but remained unused this whole time until now.

 

It just shows that prior to October 2021, Rockstar was working on the functionality of GTA+ menu, feed posts ...etc. Anyone who's aware of the inner in-and-outs of GTAV would understand this was packaged with PS5 & XSX versions launch. But it's interesting that it was planned back then too. Had the delay didn't happen, Rockstar would have likely revealed the GTA+ subscription alongside the Contract DLC.

 

I guess we should be thankful for the delay too? If the new versions launched earlier, then some of the Contract DLC content may have ended up as bonuses of GTA+.

Edited March 29, 2022 by Tez2

[Spider-Vice]

20 minutes ago, Wurmy said:

I feel like they should've decreased the price of the shark cards themselves instead of doing this tbh (or both) - interesting how they're still "unavailable".

[Gridl0k]

Where is it? Not live in my game or MS store.

 

Ah I needed to go into freemode

Edited March 29, 2022 by Gridl0k

[Mexicola9302]

26 minutes ago, Wurmy said:

These are some real crap values on the shark cards you get with gta+

 

I would have thought at least a +50% bonus on them, +15% is a joke.

[BS_BlackScout]

That's a sh*t bonus on the shark cards. Premium Take-Two Shark Card$

[EkaSwede]

18 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

I would have thought at least a +50% bonus on them, +15% is a joke.

The fact that we'd have to pay a monthly subscription fee in order to get slighlty more money we also pay for is a bit of ajoke itself.

[Spider-Vice]

I don't even have an eligible platform to see it, but here's some stuff from Twitter.

 

Players won't have a badge indicating if they sub or not: https://twitter.com/PrE233_/status/1508750915024527362

Extra bonuses on Gunrunning resupply fees, vehicle mods and armour and heist prep fees are also referenced: https://twitter.com/PrE233_/status/1508747583711232001

[Gridl0k]

Also bear in mind Prime pays 100k a week vs 500k a month for plus

[(Vip)Met]

How many people that voted "no" have subscribed already?

 

[junkymunky]

15% bonus on sharkcards is awful, but then again who buys them anyway

[WanteD1]

L* pls don't give GTA+ any exclusive DLC content! 

 

[Jason]

4 hours ago, Quinn_flower said:

well steamdb could tell you oh wait......

 

Nah, SteamDB wouldn't have GTA+ info.

 

SteamDB and Steamstats are good for player counts (which are official anyway) and educated guesses at copies sold (via trawling Steam profiles that are set to public) but sales on mtx, subscriptions etc, nah.

[junkymunky]

So any word on the HSW deveste??? How fast is it? 

[Spear97]

5 minutes ago, junkymunky said:

So any word on the HSW deveste??? How fast is it? 

Broughy hasnt done testing but my rough estimates using his methods of testing 
just slower than Emerus or Krieger 
Top Speed is 147.25 MPH roughly so less than 1 MPH quicker than the Weaponised Ignus 

[ST0b]

2 hours ago, Mexicola9302 said:

The ingame economy should be rebalanced.

 

OG Contact missions should be permanent 3-4x money & RP

Races and Stunt Races also 3-4x money & RP

OG Heists 2-3x money & RP

CEO Crates 2x money & RP

Biker Businesses 2x money & RP

Hangar Cargo 8x money & RP (I mean seriously it's the most tedious business of them all)

Bunker +50% money & RP + 25% faster production

Nighclub accrue product +25% faster

CEO/VIP freeroam interaction menu missions 2x money & RP

Biker Contracts 2x money & RP

Tuners Races 2-3x money & RP & REP

Arena Wars 3x money & RP & Arena Points (also we should get AP for just idling in the Arena)

In General every Adversary Mode should be 3x money & RP while it's available

 

The list could go on and on, everything needs to get buffed, and most certainly not only for GTA+ subscribers. They could get a +1x on everything.

If R* reads this rebalancing list of yours,they are either gonna laugh hysterically or have a heart attack.They are trying to destroy the game to make way for the "Next entry in GTA franchise" and it's online version.They want you to buy Sharkcards and this rebalancing will cause their sharkcard sales to drop to 0.

They will surely balance the whole game in favor of GTA+,it will basically become pay-to-win.I remember the time when I used to grind crates so I could get an oppressor mark2(at Level 100) while Level 15 guys (who bought sharkcards)were destroying my cargo in their Oppressor Mk2s.Although I'm surprised why Cayo(my fav),Ls tuners and Agency(my 2nd fav) have better payouts than prev content but doesnt matter.There future plans will become player soon.

Hey @Spider-Vice, why was this Tee emote   added? Can you add a crying emote,so Non-GTA+ members can cry on +members exclusive content? Would be much appreciated.

Edited March 29, 2022 by ST0b

[Shadowfennekin]

No icon, that's f*cking pathetic. We should be allowed to make life hell for those stupid enough to pay for it

[Jason]

Just now, ST0b said:

it will basically become pay-to-win.

 

It already is and has been since the day it launched

 

Power comes from cash > you can purchase cash with real money > you can purchase power with real money > that is the very definition of pay to win.

 

This is why you don't monetise the games main form of power progression and why instead many games go with premium cosmetics.