Introducing GTA+ - Reward-based Subscription for GTA Online

[blacklemon173]

4 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

But the thing is, this will only be worth it for like 1-3 months or something, because at some point you already got all vehicles, businesses etc. that you can get by GTA+, then the subscription is not worth it anymore and ppl will cancel it.

 

That's when they'll start releasing GTA+ exclusive DLCs and taking more and more content away from non-subscribers

[Mexicola9302]

Just now, blacklemon173 said:

That's when they'll start releasing GTA+ exclusive DLCs and taking more and more content away from non-subscribers

If they would really do that, they are aware of the consequences, ppl will boycott them, social media will sh*t all over R* forever. I hardly believe their marketing department is that stupid.

[needforsuv]

15 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

Less ppl will buy the totally overpriced shark cards

I mean, the 500k alone is better value than the closest shark card

 

the biggest shark card I even got I think is the bullshark great white in 2015

Edited March 26, 2022 by needforsuv

[Muller147]

The black and white of it for me hasn't changed and this only reinforces it, Rockstar simply do not care anymore, I'm sorry but someone who still has passion + enthusiasm for the actual creative process of making games would have either been satisfied or simply got bored of the money years ago.

 

Maybe I'm being overly harsh but T2's suits dictating everything is not an excuse in my book anymore, either the Rockstar so many of us grew up with is dead or they've gone from the boldest company in the industry to a bunch of gutless puppets with T2's hand up their arse controlling them.

[OnlyMans69]

8 minutes ago, needforsuv said:

Never had that problem even back when it launched on PC in 2017

i could never get the deloreans back to the bunker without having someone with a homing launcher blow it up on the way back. maybe im just unlucky AND a$$

[Mexicola9302]

1 minute ago, needforsuv said:

I mean, the 500k alone is better value than the closest shark card

Yeah but once the ppl are veterans and have everything, 500k is peanuts, like it is for you and me. After ppl have everything they will just cancel the sub. Even if they get some content like 2-4 weeks later or something.

 

Also if it's really like this:

I think most ppl would feel ashamed having that gta+ in the players list next to their name. If i were a highrank and i had gta+ i would really shame myself.  

[Bella Odessa]

13 minutes ago, blacklemon173 said:

Maybe cyberbullying is not that bad after all

Look, I've never used my oppressor to grief before. But there's a first time for everything. 

[needforsuv]

2 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

peanuts

may be so, but it's still better value than the closest shark card

and you know humans will like a 'good deal'

In a now-classic study published in the Journal of Marketing Research and repeated in the excellent Yes! 50 Scientifically Proven Ways to Be Persuasive, Williams-Sonoma had a $275 bread maker listed in their print catalog, and almost no one was buying it. When they introduced a similar bread maker for $429 and positioned it next to the $275 bread maker, sales of the $275 bread maker nearly doubled.

 

In other words, by making the cheaper shark cards LESS attractive for a top-up, R* will push ppl to make the GTA+ subscription.

FYI, I only ever got 3 shark cards (AUD?): 21 June 2015 - Tiger Shark $4.99; 3 July 2015 - Great White $19.99; 22 Dec 2017 - Bull Shark $9.99

[OnlyMans69]

13 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

Yeah but once the ppl are veterans and have everything, 500k is peanuts, like it is for you and me. After ppl have everything they will just cancel the sub. Even if they get some content like 2-4 weeks later or something.

This whole sub service wouldn't be such a big deal if we were given a new game with the new generation of consoles but the fact that this game is nearly 10yrs old and you have to grind for days or buy shark cards to buy a bunker or business if you don't already have everything is what's making this a greedy cash grab. they've practically milked this cow dry and they're still trying to squeeze something out of their players who've paid $100 to own the game across 3 generations of consoles.

[Mexicola9302]

I bought one megalodon shark card in the beginning of my gta career if i remember it correctly, there was a +50% bonus so i did get 12 instead of 8 million, also i bought it in a keyshop for 40€ i think, instead of 99€ directly from R*.

 

It was the year 2015 or 2016 not sure anymore, i played a lot of contact missions and other stuff to be able to buy the most expensive office. After i bought the office i realized i still needed warehouses, and warehouse upgrades, etc. so i just bought one shark card. It was so grindy back then, not having any way to make decent money ingame.

 

After that it was easy to make money, i just grinded crates for months, i got richer and richer etc. 

 

I got 5 large full warehouses atm, i only wait for a double event to sell them all. Nice 22 million + 1,2 million for special crates like golden minigun etc. i will get then. It's boring as f*ck doing crates, but also easy as f*ck. While doing crates i don't even actually think about doing crates anymore, it's like a automated process already. I mostly watch netflix on a second monitor while doing that.

 

And after they are sold, i will make them full again, and then wait for the next double event. I only sold them at normal money in the beginning. Now im always patient and wait for the double event. Also i don't stress myself getting them full in a week or so no i take a lot of time, doing a few crates a day. Maybe 15-30 crates of 555 a day. This way it doesn't burn me out so much.

 

And in the time my warehouses are full, i just play other games. Currently i play through Far Cry 6, it's not even that bad, after getting used to it.

[Hécate-II]

28 minutes ago, needforsuv said:

Never had that problem even back when it launched on PC in 2017

 

31 minutes ago, needforsuv said:

I mean, the 500k alone is better value than the closest shark card

 

You probably don't even play this game. Even on PC where peoples are cooler I see DD preppers getting griefed for the lulz and 500k is absolutly nothing in 2022. 

[needforsuv]

2 minutes ago, Hécate-II said:

DD preppers getting griefed

not my experience.

but then and again, my facility is in paleto

[darkplague]

R* Logic: In other words.....Greed..... is Good...

 

I wonder how much Money we could make from another shameless money grab...

 

[Halal Cyborg]

I suppose in essence I am just old and being left behind…

 

This is the norm now in terms of AAA gaming and is inevitable.

 

Are there any examples of companies that aren’t predatory and ruthless in their pursuit of wringing every last drop out of a francise and monetising everything?

 

The Witcher and Cyberpunk 2077 both seem pleasantly undermonetized.

 

Skyrim and The Mass Effect series have had their legacies sullied greatly.

[OysterBarron]

Well I play it every now and then and from what I've read on what this product offers I've still got zero excitement or reason to come back with what's on offer at the moment.

 

I'm assuming they will be adding GTAIV's map with new missions into gtao in behind this service as "early access" just so there's a real reason to remotely purchase this subscription service, that I may add sounds flat as f*ck with the features it gives you that I don't even know wtf they are.

Edited March 26, 2022 by OysterBarron

[OnlyMans69]

16 minutes ago, needforsuv said:

not my experience.

but then and again, my facility is in paleto

I bought the facility in Paleto Bay also but missions I was stuck on required me to be in LS and take whatever back to Paleto so I had to try to cross the entire map while trying to outmaneuver hydras and everything else only to get blown up before I got halfway there. Whether it was just bad luck or me being a$$, it was extremely frustrating to the point I gave up on it and just started trying to grind the Auto theft missions where I had mildly better luck. Maybe I just get stuck in toxic lobbies, idk

3 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

I suppose in essence I am just old and being left behind…

 

This is the norm now in terms of AAA gaming and is inevitable.

 

Are there any examples of companies that aren’t predatory and ruthless in their pursuit of wringing every last drop out of a francise and monetising everything?

 

The Witcher and Cyberpunk 2077 both seem pleasantly undermonetized.

 

Skyrim and The Mass Effect series have had their legacies sullied greatly.

I mean the only games where a majority of players don't feel ripped off by microtransactions or sub services are free-to-play games bc you don't have to spend $60 to buy the game so you can justify buying a $10 battle pass for 6 consecutive seasons.

[OnlyMans69]

10 minutes ago, OysterBarron said:

Well I play it every now and then and from what I've read on what this product offers I've still got zero excitement or reason to come back with what's on offer at the moment.

 

I'm assuming they will be adding GTAIV's map with new missions into gtao in behind this service as "early access" just so there's a real reason to remotely purchase this subscription service, that I may add sounds flat as f*ck with the features it gives you that I don't even know wtf they are.

If there are missions to go to North Yankton where the opening mission of the story mode takes place included in the sub service, then it'd be more enticing. but as of right now, this is all you're getting

Here’s a breakdown of the benefits GTA+ Members will receive in the first month of Membership (March 29–April 27):

• GTA$500,000 delivered automatically to your Maze Bank Account.

• The Principe Deveste Eight — along with a complimentary Hao’s Special Works upgrade for it before it is made available to purchase by the general public — plus the HSW Orange Trip and HSW CMYK Glitch Liveries.

• The Auto Shop located in La Mesa, introduces an assortment of gameplay updates from Los Santos Tuners. Current Auto Shop owners can relocate to La Mesa at no additional cost.

• Waived LS Car Meet Membership fees. Current LS Car Meet members with GTA+ will be reimbursed GTA$50,000 during this event period.

• Yacht owners can upgrade to the Aquarius Super Yacht at no additional cost.

• The Gussét Frog Tee and Broker Prolaps Basketball Top and Shorts automatically added to your wardrobe.

• The Conveyor Livery for the Mammoth Avenger, HVY APC, and TM-02 Khanjali.

• A selection of free paints and emblems for the Auto Shop.

• 3X GTA$ and RP on Hao’s Special Works Race Series.

• 2X Car Meet Rep on the Street Race Series.

Edited March 26, 2022 by OnlyMans69

[Hécate-II]

6 minutes ago, OnlyMans69 said:

I bought the facility in Paleto Bay also but missions I was stuck on required me to be in LS and take whatever back to Paleto so I had to try to cross the entire map while trying to outmaneuver hydras and everything else only to get blown up before I got halfway there. Whether it was just bad luck or me being a$$

 

The only missions where you can be 110% sure not to be griefed are those with bags, if you use your personal Akula, have a great speed of execution, you can fool the entire lobby, but any mission featuring a mission-vehicle(like many...slow ass trucks, Akula from mission that has no fck  integrated off radar ability...C*) will lead to be potentially a target for the lobby. 

 

See that mission with Deluxos, there are always four ones, so even if you decide to have a Criminal Mastermind II, you still have to transport the four Deluxos to your base;, and Ghost Org isn't long enough simply. 

 

The only way at the end is to bail out in a solo lobby, and repeat MTU test everytime before you start a new prep. If you blow up the griefer's Hydra he will switch to MK2 soon after 

[OysterBarron]

As an old returning player this is a breakdown of stuff i know what its from that list. The rest is just garbage to me.

• GTA$500,000 delivered automatically to your Maze Bank Account.

• The Gussét Frog Tee and Broker Prolaps Basketball Top and Shorts automatically added to your wardrobe.

• A selection of free paints and emblems for the Auto Shop.

Edited March 26, 2022 by OysterBarron

[OnlyMans69]

8 minutes ago, Hécate-II said:

 

The only missions where you can be 110% sure not to be griefed are those with bags, if you use your personal Akula, have a great speed of execution, you can fool the entire lobby, but any mission featuring a mission-vehicle(like many...slow ass trucks, Akula from mission that has no fck  integrated off radar ability...C*) will lead to be potentially a target for the lobby. 

 

See that mission with Deluxos, there are always four ones, so even if you decide to have a Criminal Mastermind II, you still have to transport the four Deluxos to your base;, and Ghost Org isn't long enough simply. 

 

The only way at the end is to bail out in a solo lobby, and repeat MTU test everytime before you start a new prep. If you blow up the griefer's Hydra he will switch to MK2 soon after 

that's why I just never finished it. I tried recruiting people and I was usually pretty generous cutting the money from heists but they preferred to grief me instead which is their right to do so but it's frustrating when you can't even enjoy doing missions literally everyone else has already done. If I remember correctly, I never finished any heists aside from the OG ones. I still didn't finish the doomsday heist or the casino heist or any after that if there is any. I enjoy a challenge but 1 person versus the entire lobby isn't a challenge, it's constant death.

[Ash_735]

People keep bringing up "But it's better than Shark Cards value wise" should know that Shark Cards were always terrible value for money anyway! So saying that is akin to saying drinking piss is better than eating sh*t, I mean yeah one is "better" but both are still terrible options. Anyone who subscribes to this literally has no say in future about Rockstar gouging players for more because this right here IS the major red flag attempt, if they get away with this then they can do all sorts and move that paywall around with ease.

[Lonely-Martin]

4 minutes ago, OnlyMans69 said:

that's why I just never finished it. I tried recruiting people and I was usually pretty generous cutting the money from heists but they preferred to grief me instead which is their right to do so but it's frustrating when you can't even enjoy doing missions literally everyone else has already done. If I remember correctly, I never finished any heists aside from the OG ones. I still didn't finish the doomsday heist or the casino heist or any after that if there is any. I enjoy a challenge but 1 person versus the entire lobby isn't a challenge, it's constant death.

 

You should consider the Cayo Perico heist. It can all be done solo and in invite only lobbies for the preps. Seriously, 1 scope out, 5 preps, stealthy finale. Easiest 1.5m in an hour once you get comfy. Plenty of YouTube videos of people getting elite bonus everytime too.

 

That heist, along with the auto shop contracts, cars to sell/find and deliver, the agency and that story and contracts/payphone assassinations, you really can't not make great money with those, all solo friendly in peaceful invite only sessions. Money making has never been so casual.

[OnlyMans69]

4 minutes ago, Shadowfennekin said:

Griefing looks mighty good right now lol

Yet another reason not to buy it lol I could use the money if I hadn't been pushed this far as to delete the game but if I were to buy the sub, my not-so-good-gamer self would just get grieved even more than I already did bc I was always running around doing business missions and people just can't stand seeing another person being successful lol

[GTA-Fanboy]

R.I.P Rockstar Games 1998-2022

[Ash_735]

This image has been floating around other gaming forums, simply put as "GTA fans"...

[OnlyMans69]

2 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

 

You should consider the Cayo Perico heist. It can all be done solo and in invite only lobbies for the preps. Seriously, 1 scope out, 5 preps, stealthy finale. Easiest 1.5m in an hour once you get comfy. Plenty of YouTube videos of people getting elite bonus everytime too.

 

That heist, along with the auto shop contracts, cars to sell/find and deliver, the agency and that story and contracts/payphone assassinations, you really can't not make great money with those, all solo friendly in peaceful invite only sessions. Money making has never been so casual.

Due to my current decision to boycott rockstar games until they can prove they aren't just greedy cash grabbing nice people, I'm going to have to wait until they decide whether or not they're going to acknowledge their mistakes. I've already voiced my displeasure with it to the fullest extent and I have to stick to my word on a boycott due to my morals and values. We've been begging for a new game for 5 years but all we've gotten was consistent cash grabs and essentially a pay wall that causes casuals like myself to have to grind a ridiculous amount to even keep up or buy the shart cards or now this cash grab sub service. If they can fix the greedy nature of this and shart cards, then I'd have no problem taking your advice bc I did enjoy the game for what it was but this has become a matter of morals and principles. Not to mention a lot of the people buying this service are going to be kids who have their parents credit card info saved on their consoles stealing money from their parents to have a little more money in game. Its a "rich get richer and the poor get poorer" kinda thing at this point

[Max96]

Me, who plays on PC and got everything I wanted: wut?

And btw, ain't the Prolaps T-Shirt and Shorts a prize was given to players in past for completing Cayo Perico heist during one of the events weeks?

[OnlyMans69]

1 minute ago, Max96 said:

And btw, ain't the Prolaps T-Shirt and Shorts a prize was given to players in past for completing Cayo Perico heist during one of the events weeks?

It has been in the game's code since 2018

[LeakyLine]

1 minute ago, OnlyMans69 said:

It has been in the game's code since 2018

lazy bastards can't even offer anything new lool

[Max96]

1 minute ago, OnlyMans69 said:

It has been in the game's code since 2018

Oh, damn.

Well, now I can say that making money from air is possible.