Milford809 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 So I just started playing this game on PC recently to try and do all of the side quests, mess with cheats, and explore and I realized how huge this game really is. The map for it's time was absolutley gigantic and the game literally had everything. Especially compared to Vice City. And it had about any type of music you could want. it had something for everyone. Country, Gangsta Rap, Classic Rock, Metal, Alt Rock, New Jack/Swing, House, etc. it had it all and it had the best offering of artists from each genre. Just so much diversity. And not only that, it had almost every activity and side hustle you could want. I really think this game is better than V in terms of what you can do. Including all the mods for the game. The fun is limitless and the possibilities for fun and exploration are endless. You don't have to do any of the missions. Just use cheats and mod the game to high heaven. Nothing beats San Andreas imo. Will VI top it? The Artist, Dr Busta, sebiTCR and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragomazing Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I agree and with some cool mods gta sa is definitely the best game ever! Milford809, WanteD1 and jet ranger 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milford809 Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 You don't really need to mod it though because it pretty much already has everything. Throw the Hot Coffee Mod in and you have a complete experience. The map is just so big. There's so much land to cover. And it's not just 3 cities, it's an entire state. Las Venturas is my favorite. And Area 69. The game has literally everything though. No other GTA besides GTA V gives you as much freedom. SA > V > VCS > LCS > VC > IV > 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 San Andreas and Red Dead 2 are by far their best games in terms of content Tryve1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock n' Stock Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Definitely the best GTA in terms of content. I still prefer Vice City for style and story alone however, and the soundtrack of course. Graven and WanteD1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potramen Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 y did they remove content in sequels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 49 minutes ago, potramen said: y did they remove content in sequels GTA IV: It used a new game engine, they also made the artistic choice to make the game smaller scale and more grounded. GTA V: Partly because they prioritized the wrong things and some of it went only to Online, also they really couldn't have had 3 detailed cities on PS3/X360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potramen Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 19 hours ago, ejoty said: GTA IV: It used a new game engine, they also made the artistic choice to make the game smaller scale and more grounded. GTA V: Partly because they prioritized the wrong things and some of it went only to Online, also they really couldn't have had 3 detailed cities on PS3/X360. they need to bring back cluckin bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman_ Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Agreed. The game's from 2004 but the freedom it offers to the player still is impressive nowadays. SA was ahead of its time. The definitive GTA experience IMO. Official General, Milford809 and Tryve1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billiejoearmstrong8 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) I just started playing it again for the first time in like 12 years. It's great, I forgot how funny it was and the map is still one of the most impressive achievements in GTA, it's genius how huge they made it feel. I have to say I am glad they removed some features in later games though, the eating/gym/weight/muscle stuff and having to build stats is honestly just an annoying chore and there's lots of tedious side tasks I'm not looking forward to (if I decide to 100% it). I don't agree that having the most stuff makes it the best, since a lot of that stuff is just filler and isn't anything I'd choose to do more than once just to complete the game. Prefer the quality over quantity approach of IV. And I think the gameplay of both IV and V is objectively better and more enjoyable. Just having fun with it though, I'm planning to go through the whole game with CJ as fat as possible and shirtless since I never did that before lol, and I'm really enjoying the Los Santos chapter. It's the Xbox 360 version which is kind of crappy (for example songs on the radio will often just randomly skip to another point, the subtitles are still there even though I've turned them off, and it has a bit of a glitchy feel) especially considering the only version I ever played before that I can compare it to was the great original PS2 one. But it's been playable so far. Edited March 4 by billiejoearmstrong8 NightmanCometh96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesk_ Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 SA is still my favorite game of all time, i just love this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Cringe. Nico 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil vader Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 @Milford809 while you provide an interesting if generic interpretation of GTA San Andreas I feel you're wrong in many regards. You're free to have your opinion about SA as I and the other forum members have theirs but is it really the best GTA game solely due to it's sheer amount of content? I concur that San Andreas had an excellent illusion of making the world feel large and sprawling but I suggest anyone seriously re-evaluates their own principles in how they define a good game if big, or in this case feeling big is really the be all end all for quality. As for the "huge amount of activities" (to paraphrase).. how much of that stuff is actually fun? Again, to each his own, but I feel a lot of the content outside story missions was tedious and silly. Gym, stats, some of the side missions, the collectibles. For it's time it was impressive how much content there was but as they say, as wide as an ocean but as shallow as a puddle. Saints Row only two years later would blow San Andreas out of the water by showing that you could achieve what San Andreas was trying to accomplish with a smaller map, which ultimately made it a more concise, tight packed but near masterpiece of a game. IV on the other hand would show people that the GTA series was able to tell compelling, mature stories and break free of it's shackles as the inappropriate, rude, brash, in-your-face game that existed purely as an entity to illicit controversy out of parents and activists. Is San Andreas the best game out of the 3D trilogy? Certainly. Perfect? No, that is certainly a stretch. Will VI top it? Who knows, but I'd bet on yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallly Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Imagine preferring less content. San Andreas is the best GTA ever made. SPMovies, Milford809 and WanteD1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioshenka Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I agree. Perfection in a nutshell. The worst thing is that I don't think we'll ever see anything of the same scale and depth as SA in our lives. Official General and Wallly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anywhere USA Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, Lioshenka said: I agree. Perfection in a nutshell. The worst thing is that I don't think we'll ever see anything of the same scale and depth as SA in our lives. Oh hey it's you, I saw the red thumbnail. I ended up beating 3 eventually, currently my least favorite game of the series. Looking forward to SA. Current ranking is 3-1-LCS-VCS-2-VC > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milford809 Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 (edited) On 3/5/2022 at 9:14 PM, lil vader said: @Milford809 while you provide an interesting if generic interpretation of GTA San Andreas I feel you're wrong in many regards. You're free to have your opinion about SA as I and the other forum members have theirs but is it really the best GTA game solely due to it's sheer amount of content? I concur that San Andreas had an excellent illusion of making the world feel large and sprawling but I suggest anyone seriously re-evaluates their own principles in how they define a good game if big, or in this case feeling big is really the be all end all for quality. As for the "huge amount of activities" (to paraphrase).. how much of that stuff is actually fun? Again, to each his own, but I feel a lot of the content outside story missions was tedious and silly. Gym, stats, some of the side missions, the collectibles. For it's time it was impressive how much content there was but as they say, as wide as an ocean but as shallow as a puddle. Saints Row only two years later would blow San Andreas out of the water by showing that you could achieve what San Andreas was trying to accomplish with a smaller map, which ultimately made it a more concise, tight packed but near masterpiece of a game. IV on the other hand would show people that the GTA series was able to tell compelling, mature stories and break free of it's shackles as the inappropriate, rude, brash, in-your-face game that existed purely as an entity to illicit controversy out of parents and activists. Is San Andreas the best game out of the 3D trilogy? Certainly. Perfect? No, that is certainly a stretch. Will VI top it? Who knows, but I'd bet on yes. Saints Row 1 better then San Andreas? Not a chance. Especially maxed out on a PC with Hot Coffee enabled. San Andreas had the whole package. The voice actors were all famous and top notch. Like Samuel L Jackson and Chris Penn from the gangster 90's Pulp Fiction and Res Dogs films. It had what is perhaps the best soundtrack in any GTA game, minus VC maybe, but I am a sucker for the 90's, and just about anything you could imagine. Most of the activities are fun as hell. I don't know what your smoking. Car modification, street racing, changing up your characters clothes and making it look ridiculous, the vast amount of cheats, endless supply of mods, gambling, pool, basketball, dating, gang wars, the huge map leaves tons of exploration for myths, sneaking into Area 69 to explore, using a jetpack, fighter jets and attack copters. Bro, the list goes on. You don't have to max your stats and go to the gym. What more do you want? Saints Row is just to silly and it is just a GTA clone/rip-off. On 3/5/2022 at 9:44 PM, Wallly said: Imagine preferring less content. San Andreas is the best GTA ever made. Yeah people are really strange. The map is still so amazingly big. Exploring the mountains and deserts well will take a long time. Las Venturas is fun as hell. That's my fav city. Edited March 9 by Milford809 Lioshenka and Wallly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil vader Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 @Milford809 Saints Row 1 is absolutely better than San Andreas, but that wasn't my point and I actually didn't say that.. at all. Not sure about your comment being "maxed out on PC"? Like what? The graphics? The graphics suck. Hot Coffee sucks too and if that is a feature you feel should have been in the final game that is absolutely hilarious. Voice actors are sh*t, celebrity power doesn't have any effect on the quality of a game (fact). The soundtrack was also pretty boring but whatever floats your boat I suppose. Most of the activities are not fun either. Everything you proceeded to list isn't fun. Going through those terrible car and clothes menus with like a minute input delay isn't fun. Gambling isn't fun unless it's real money, the basketball novelty wears off in a hot minute, dating is tedious and this "huge map" is only 38.2 km2 like bro just play the DE to get a sense of what I mean. Myths are fake FYI, Area 69 is boring yada yada you get my point. Like them putting things in a game doesn't automatically make it fun, only maybe half of what you said actually compliments the story in any meaningful way. This business about Saints Row being a GTA clone is bullsh*t too like have you actually played those games? They're completely different. My opinions are correct and yours are wrong so there is no point in trying to argue with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Shizuku Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 4 hours ago, lil vader said: @Milford809 Gambling isn't fun unless it's real money. So why is it that pokerist has 10 to 20 thousands of average players active every day even though the closest thing to real money involvement in that game is just microtransaction to purchase virtual chips? It sounds like these people play casino games just for fun. Edited March 9 by Light Syde Riandy Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Shizuku Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 4 hours ago, lil vader said: @Milford809 Most of the activities are not fun either. Do you speak for yourself or at least for some GTA IV fans? 4 hours ago, lil vader said: @Milford809 My opinions are correct and yours are wrong so there is no point in trying to argue with me. I'm sorry, while opinions can be objectively true, it's still subjective at the end of the day. Therefore, you're not the determiner whether one's opinion is right or wrong. Tryve1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) Quote This game was perfect and had everything I would like to add that although there's tons of content for sure, even San Andreas removed features its prequel had, like: Explorable mall, airport terminal & other unique interiors Hardware stores Screwdriver, Hammer, Meat Cleaver & Machete Full-sized Uzi, M60 & Laser-scoped Sniper Rampages Robbing stores at a gunpoint Selling drugs from an ice cream van Larger variety of businesses to own like a movie studio, taxi firm, boatyard etc Choosing your own cars for street races Payphone assassination contracts Yeah, as big as this game felt, even back in 2005 I was still slightly disappointed about the lack of some features in San Andreas. Edited March 9 by ejoty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milford809 Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 6 hours ago, lil vader said: @Milford809 Saints Row 1 is absolutely better than San Andreas, but that wasn't my point and I actually didn't say that.. at all. Not sure about your comment being "maxed out on PC"? Like what? The graphics? The graphics suck. Hot Coffee sucks too and if that is a feature you feel should have been in the final game that is absolutely hilarious. Voice actors are sh*t, celebrity power doesn't have any effect on the quality of a game (fact). The soundtrack was also pretty boring but whatever floats your boat I suppose. Most of the activities are not fun either. Everything you proceeded to list isn't fun. Going through those terrible car and clothes menus with like a minute input delay isn't fun. Gambling isn't fun unless it's real money, the basketball novelty wears off in a hot minute, dating is tedious and this "huge map" is only 38.2 km2 like bro just play the DE to get a sense of what I mean. Myths are fake FYI, Area 69 is boring yada yada you get my point. Like them putting things in a game doesn't automatically make it fun, only maybe half of what you said actually compliments the story in any meaningful way. This business about Saints Row being a GTA clone is bullsh*t too like have you actually played those games? They're completely different. My opinions are correct and yours are wrong so there is no point in trying to argue with me. Yeah, judging by your use of language and lack of life experience/knowledge it's pretty clear to me that you are probably just some edgy teen who wasn't even born when San Andreas and SR1 came out. Try Spyro or Mario Brothers. This is adult entertainment. 1 hour ago, ejoty said: I would like to add that although there's tons of content for sure, even San Andreas removed features its prequel had, like: Explorable mall, airport terminal & other unique interiors Hardware stores Screwdriver, Hammer, Meat Cleaver & Machete Full-sized Uzi, M60 & Laser-scoped Sniper Rampages Robbing stores at a gunpoint Selling drugs from an ice cream van Larger variety of businesses to own like a movie studio, taxi firm, boatyard etc Choosing your own cars for street races Payphone assassination contracts Yeah, as big as this game felt, even back in 2005 I was still slightly disappointed about the lack of some features in San Andreas. SA has tons of interiors to explore. But yeah, I want to use MY MODDED CARS for street races. What the f*ck is that all about? And yeah, there aren't many cool businesses to own which is strange. Just a car dealership and some resteraunts??? No rampages was also kind of stupid. I love those. 6 hours ago, lil vader said: My opinions are correct and yours are wrong so there is no point in trying to argue with me. Yeah, we have a confirmed idiot here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graven Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Though I've always regarded GTA VC to be the best ever, I have to admit that SA was the game I played most. Well over 10 years regularly. Official General and AkshayKumar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil vader Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 22 hours ago, Milford809 said: Yeah, judging by your use of language and lack of life experience/knowledge it's pretty clear to me that you are probably just some edgy teen who wasn't even born when San Andreas and SR1 came out. Try Spyro or Mario Brothers. This is adult entertainment. Life experience and/or knowledge has little to do with a fictional video game from 2004, and the mere fact you can even relate such a thing to said game is frankly pretty sad. I'm not here looking to take jabs at you, but I genuinely think that is sad that in your mind, life experience equates to playing viddies but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because you go on to accuse me of being an edgy teen. Obviously you're projecting because a grown adult probably wouldn't accuse someone of not having life experience because they won't praise an 18 year old video game. And that's fine, being a kid having fun and playing a bit of GTA is something we've all done given the fact we're on a forum for Grand Theft Auto. But I must admit I am utterly dumbfounded at this emotional outburst, I think that in the future if you don't want to have your own opinion be scrutinized perhaps you shouldn't post it in a public space where we (within reason) have the ability to discuss, articulate and argue our thoughts and opinions. I would also like to ask what you mean by your last statement that GTA is adult entertainment. Does that somehow make it impervious to criticism? Does it being an adults only bit of media somehow make it special? Your implication is that video games created with children as the target audience can be mocked but GTA San Andreas is on this pedestal. Listen buddy, here's the hard truth - we're not discussing a work of art here, it's a product produced by a business in order to generate some cashola. Do you get this testy when someone criticizes your favourite cereal? If the answer is no, why do you continue to fail to address my actual arguments and instead take the low approach of calling me a child. If possible, I would like to engage in a mature discussion with you because I believe this is an interesting topic hence why I even started posting in this thread to begin with. Please explain how modifications, side missions, the soundtrack and being an AO game makes it perfect. On 3/9/2022 at 10:46 PM, Light Syde Riandy said: Do you speak for yourself or at least for some GTA IV fans? I speak for myself obviously, they're my words and my thoughts. How does that suggest I'm speaking on behalf of GTA IV fans? I just brought up GTA IV as an example, it's not one of my major points. On 3/9/2022 at 10:46 PM, Light Syde Riandy said: I'm sorry, while opinions can be objectively true, it's still subjective at the end of the day. Therefore, you're not the determiner whether one's opinion is right or wrong. That's fine because upon rethinking what I've said thus far what I have written aren't my opinions they're facts, because factually San Andreas is not a perfect game by any means. Edited March 10 by lil vader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman_ Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 On 3/5/2022 at 8:42 PM, Americana said: Cringe. Come on, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Shizuku Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) On 3/10/2022 at 7:34 PM, lil vader said: That's fine because upon rethinking what I've said thus far what I have written aren't my opinions they're facts, You can't just self proclaim some of what you said as facts when you didn't even bother to show any evidence. It's like I boastfully claim how magnum opus my painting is when it is bad from experts' point of view. Edited April 23 by Super Shizuku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Shizuku Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) On 3/10/2022 at 7:34 PM, lil vader said: I speak for myself obviously, they're my words and my thoughts. This, along with not providing data which suggest that those activities are indeed not fun, means that some of what you said are just bad opinions and shouldn't be taken seriously to begin with. On 3/10/2022 at 7:34 PM, lil vader said: San Andreas is not a perfect game by any means. Tell that to the OP, not me. Since I've never said it is. Edited April 23 by Super Shizuku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkshayKumar Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) Vice City and San Andreas were probably my favourite gaming experience. Though it may be that it is more due to me playing it when i was younger and more excited for this stuff, still I'm glad I got to play them when they were still relatively new cause if i were to play them for the first time today I wonder if I would have been influenced by the games looking outdated and not given them a fair chance. I guess it is a matter of perspective maybe younger people feel the same way about GTA IV and GTA V like I do about Vice City and San Andreas. Still, I may be biased but Vice City is still the best power fantasy in the series and San Andreas was the most ambitious. Soundtrack was really good too, Wave 103. K DST and K Rose are my favourites in GTA Edited April 23 by AkshayKumar Graven 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil vader Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 On 4/23/2022 at 3:17 PM, Super Shizuku said: You can't just self proclaim some of what you said as facts when you didn't even bother to show any evidence. It's like I boastfully claim how magnum opus my painting is when it is bad from experts' point of view. The burden of proof is on OP who is claiming GTA SA is the perfect game. I'm not here to prove myself because it isn't my topic I just thought it'd be good to initiate some discussion. GTA SA isn't a perfect game, I don't need to sit here and provide examples of every time 'x' happened and so fourth. On 4/23/2022 at 3:24 PM, Super Shizuku said: This, along with not providing data which suggest that those activities are indeed not fun, means that some of what you said are just bad opinions and shouldn't be taken seriously to begin with. If you're not just going to take my word and acknowledge that GTA SA isn't this all perfect piece of media that's not my problem, as I suggested, I'm not going to sit here and write a whole essay in this thread. I mean even on a technical level you have to acknowledge GTA SA has issues. On 4/23/2022 at 3:24 PM, Super Shizuku said: Tell that to the OP, not me. Since I've never said it is. Why bother initiating discussion with me in the first place? Value isn't added to this thread by you getting nitpicky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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