Does PC version will have E&E update?

[risefox]

Or is it only for PS5?

[Standard Deluxe 59]

No one knows yet. 

[WildBrick142]

of course, why wouldn't it?

[IsekaiExpress]

Yes.
And it's gonna lag like hell.

[ambi3nt]

Why would it lag? We almost run E&E already on PC, if they improve newer hardware utilisation, chances are it will affect PC as well and it will run even smoother.

[suicidal_banana]

What we all like to think: Yes there will be a small engine update to improve performance

 

What some of us dream about: Proper upgrade to the RDR2 engine (both looks and runs better) & add anti-cheat

 

Realistic steak take: 

There's a high likelihood that E&E is only going to do these things:

- Bringing 'PC graphics' (or close to it) and better framerates to consoles

- Re-enabling animals for (GTA:O for) all platforms

- Allowing 'super' engine upgrades for more vehicles ('leaked')

- Some new paintjob stuff ('leaked')

Thats it, 60 bucks please?

 

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Honestly nobody knows, but with how much R* are f-ing up in the past ~2 years i'd keep expectations low, that way you can only be positively surprised.

[risefox]

5 hours ago, WildBrick142 said:

of course, why wouldn't it?

Great! I would like have to see new Chameleon colors

[Mexicola9302]

5 hours ago, ambi3nt said:

Why would it lag? We almost run E&E already on PC, if they improve newer hardware utilisation, chances are it will affect PC as well and it will run even smoother.

Afaik GTA V and GTA Online on PC, only uses 6 cpu cores because the consoles only had 8 cores back then and 2 were for the OS only so 6 for gaming. It would be fine if it would balance it out between my 16 cores 32 threads. It would increase my FPS if there are many players in a session very much i think.

 

Well the playstation 5 has 8 cores 16 threads, maybe they only add 2 more that are supported then. But even that should help. If it really uses 16 threads, at least it uses all my real cores then. Well who knows what they will do.

 

It totally sucks nobody benefits of actual good hardware in this game yet.

Edited January 31 by Mexicola9302

[FrugalDangerMan]

13 hours ago, suicidal_banana said:

i'd keep expectations low, that way you can only be positively surprised.

 

That's what I tell my girlfriend all the time.

[MayoChiki]

22 hours ago, ambi3nt said:

if they improve

 

they reintroduced a settings glitch on rdr2 and haven't fixed it for half a year...

[Spider-Vice]

21 hours ago, Mexicola9302 said:

and 2 were for the OS only so 6 for gaming

On top of that, I believe one of the "game" cores in RAGE is reserved for audio, which makes sense as audio needs to run in quasi-real-time without interference, but that effectively makes it so a lot of GTA V's game logic (including netcode and synch) only utilises 4/5 cores in reality, including on PC. Threading was optimised for RDR2 and that uses CPU's properly.

 

It doesn't help that other modules within GTA V are single-threaded, such as the use of Bink video inside the Diamond Casino & Resort which brings down the frame rate on all platforms because Bink 1 decoding only uses one core and I'm assuming it's bogging down RAGE's graphics pipeline whilst decoding that. RDR2 uses Bink 2 which supports multi-slice/multi-core decoding - all RDR2 pre-rendered video (flashback scenes, etc.) are rendered with 4 "slices", so up to 4 cores.

[Gridl0k]

Why is nobody asking the real question, will NPCs start to use turn signals

[Spider-Vice]

How many people use turn signals in big cities anyway?

[Mexicola9302]

Yeah it's nice how i NEVER get any FPS drops in RDR2 Online, even if there are 30 ppl in the session. Because it actually uses my hardware. It's like night and day, compared to GTAO. In GTAO if i play completly alone in a solo public session i have my desired 120 FPS in 2160p all maxed out except grass on second best and without AA and the advanced distance sliders on 0,  99% of the time. If there are 29 other players in the session my FPS can go down to 60 FPS, even if i don't see these players, they just have to be in the session, it's ridiculous. It's the worst if the max number of organizations or MC's do work simultaneously, and there is a business battle and other things happening all at the same time. All CPU related, and this with the like 3rd best CPU on the planet (R9 5950x). None of this is happening in RDR2 Online, there i always got my 70-110 FPS it doesn't matter what happens in a session, using X-Box Series X settings, also playing it in 2160p without DLSS.

 

If they fix that CPU problem with the E&E release, i will open a bottle of champagne and smoke a cigar too.  

Edited February 1 by Mexicola9302

[SummerFreeze]

The bigger question is how much it will cost.

[Mexicola9302]

For PS5 and X-Box Series X, i would say regular price like normal games, so it's 60€ i guess in europe. I hardly believe they only want the half or 3/4 money for it, it's greedy Rockstar we are talking about.

 

For PC most probably for free.

[MFIM-_-7196]

How is it going to run on low-end PCs?

 

I'm talking about that kind of PCs that can barely run the current version on 30 FPS with Low/Medium Settings in Solo Lobby!!

[Mexicola9302]

5 minutes ago, MFIM-_-7196 said:

How is it going to run on low-end PCs?

 

I'm talking about that kind of PCs that can barely run the current version on 30 FPS with Low/Medium Settings in Solo Lobby!!

Barely anything will change, well for PC players. At least that is my speculation, maybe it runs even better with low hardware, incase the PC has a 8 core CPU. I mean PC players already got the top of the line graphics, if we pc players get a better optimization only, it probably runs better not worse.

[MFIM-_-7196]

4 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

Barely anything will change, well for PC players. At least that is my speculation, maybe it runs even better with low hardware, incase the PC has a 8 core CPU. I mean PC players already got the top of the line graphics, if we pc players get a better optimization only, it probably runs better not worse.

Umm i don't think a low-end PC has an 8 core CPU probably more like 2 core CPU, even then i think there is a high chance the R* will increase the texture res of everything in the game that including (Buildings, Roads, Grass, Shadows, etc,,,) I think that will be a huge impact on the performance especially the Grass and Shadows.

[Mexicola9302]

I hardly believe they will shut down the servers of the regular non E&E version right after release, so ppl have time to upgrade their rigs if necessary. But honestly nobody knows what E&E will mean for the PC version, maybe nothing changes at all, and all they do is remove the speed cap, so we can drive/fly faster and that's it. Oh yeah and they add new paintjobs to customize vehicles (forgotten the name of it), that's so pretty much the only 2 things the community knows about. How should that have any impact on perfomance?

 

They only upgrade the graphics of the console versions to be on the level of pc graphics and that's it. They won't use the latest RDR2 RAGE engine, to upgrade everything, NO f*ckING WAY they do that, that would be wayyyyy too much work for them. I'll eat my hat, if that happens.  

Edited February 1 by Mexicola9302

[Pedinhuh]

3 hours ago, Gridl0k said:

Why is nobody asking the real question, will NPCs start to use turn signals

But they do use turn signals though.

 

It's just that they don't use it for changing lanes and merging.

 

Also they don't emit light coronas so wouldn't even be able to see them from afar which is where it truly matters.

 

And then there's the fact that a huge chunk of vehicles in this game don't even have turn signals modeled, just like a lot of cars also don't have reverse lights.

 

Pretty safe to say that they won't be doing anything to change this predictment.

Edited February 1 by Pedinhuh

[Mexicola9302]

It's funny if delivering Import/Export cars to the destination, the turn signals work on these cars, and they can be seen clearly.  

 

Yeah i really wish they would make the regular npc traffic use turn signals, also if changing lane. That would be a gamechanger, finally no more unpredictable traffic. But i think stuff like that is very low on Rockstars priority list.

[dragosani00]

On 1/31/2022 at 12:34 PM, suicidal_banana said:

- Re-enabling animals for (GTA:O for) all platforms

 

 

Ooh that's going to be hilarious at the rage when people start locking onto rabbits & birds in the middle of a war.

[joe1606]

I hope the upgrade will be free on pc for returning players but I don't think so... Like console players (minus PS5 the first 3 months) I think we'll have to purchase V and/or Online again.

[ambi3nt]

29 minutes ago, joe1606 said:

I hope the upgrade will be free on pc for returning players but I don't think so... Like console players (minus PS5 the first 3 months) I think we'll have to purchase V and/or Online again.

Yeah considering how high they priced definitive trilogy would not be surprising if they fell so low and resold on PC as well.

[toguraum]

Bethesda resold Skyrim 10 year anniversary edition last year on PC, for people who already had both Vanilla Skyrim and the 2016 Special Edition, so I'm almost sure Rockstar will follow suit and put a price for the E&E on PC, unfortunately.

[Intstringeger]

The argument for R* not charging for E&E on PC is that it would result in a fragmented player base which ultimately hurts the shark card business.

[lnterloper]

On 1/31/2022 at 12:34 PM, suicidal_banana said:

- Re-enabling animals for (GTA:O for) all platforms

4 hours ago, dragosani00 said:

Ooh that's going to be hilarious at the rage when people start locking onto rabbits & birds in the middle of a war.

 

Wait until people in sniper fights, gets one shotted by Mountain Lions, specially when the opponent gets sniped while dragged on the floor by the big feral cats.

[Hakuan]

3 hours ago, toguraum said:

Bethesda resold Skyrim 10 year anniversary edition last year on PC, for people who already had both Vanilla Skyrim and the 2016 Special Edition, so I'm almost sure Rockstar will follow suit and put a price for the E&E on PC, unfortunately.

To be fair, Anniversary was just a creation club content pack.

[Shadowfennekin]

12 hours ago, joe1606 said:

I hope the upgrade will be free on pc for returning players but I don't think so... Like console players (minus PS5 the first 3 months) I think we'll have to purchase V and/or Online again.

Won't nor should it! Us console people can play regular GTA V just fine on XBX and PS5, PC people don't deserve special treatment. Everyone will have to pay the $60 entry fee