Space Cowboy Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 For what it's worth, major news outlets are noticing which is a good thing because bad PR is the only way to attract Rockstar's attention. I can't shake the feeling that this meager support has been long time coming. Remember the interviews with RDO lead developers that used to happen somewhat frequently (by R*'s standards at least) where they talked about their future plans for the game? There was no such interview in over a year as far as I know. https://www.gamesradar.com/rockstar-talks-red-dead-online-living-another-life-in-the-old-west-and-being-constantly-surprised-by-the-community/ This seems to be the last one. Many of the ideas were obviously a pipe dream, but it was still nice to see that Rockstar thinks about the future of the game. This year, the only interview we had didn't mention a single thing about the future of the game, and oddly enough it praised Blood Money update, which got at best lukewarm reception in the community. https://www.shacknews.com/article/126823/rockstar-games-interview-red-dead-online-continues-to-evolve-with-blood-money This felt like a low-effort ad for a dying game, how do you even make an interview with Rockstar about one of their multiplayer games without discussing the future? Makes no sense to me, frankly. There was NOTHING at all this year from Rockstar. No interview whatsover. I am glad the community efforts are getting recognised by major news outlets. I don't want to have unrealistic expectations, but I do hope we will get the response from Rockstar at the very least. This is a live service game and it's frankly unacceptable that they refuse to talk about its future whatsover. ventogt and Nerfgoth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 9 hours ago, CosmicBuffalo said: Dan Houser specifically stated that RDO was expected to be as robust as GTAO, Well he's not gonna say "nah, we were forced to make it by T2" no was he? As for the crunch stuff, the impact of crunch in the industry is well documented and damages the social lives of the developers, so I find any reason to handwaive it away as silly. Regardless, bringing Dan into this is bizarre, it's documented through the Benzies court documents that the Houser's wanted zero to do with GTAO, it was Benzies idea, they much prefer single player titles and there's no reason to speculate or think any of that changed. If you want a plausible reason for why he left there's two good ones, one he got iffy with Take-Two's increasing control over Rockstar and decided to move on or two he put 20 odd years of his life into the work, made his money, and has retired to spend time with his family. Either way, it's got nothing to do with the state of RDO. fluffball, Rev. Gnash, Yellow Dog with Cone and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 18 minutes ago, Jason said: Well he's not gonna say "nah, we were forced to make it by T2" no was he? As for the crunch stuff, the impact of crunch in the industry is well documented and damages the social lives of the developers, so I find any reason to handwaive it away as silly. Regardless, bringing Dan into this is bizarre, it's documented through the Benzies court documents that the Houser's wanted zero to do with GTAO, it was Benzies idea, they much prefer single player titles and there's no reason to speculate or think any of that changed. If you want a plausible reason for why he left there's two good ones, one he got iffy with Take-Two's increasing control over Rockstar and decided to move on or two he put 20 odd years of his life into the work, made his money, and has retired to spend time with his family. Either way, it's got nothing to do with the state of RDO. He could have said nothing about it. The article is about RDR2. No one would have cared had he not mentioned it. Unless people are not paid for overtime, seems pretty whiney to me..especially with R* that is lucky to make a game every five years. Dan Houser leaving is the biggest indicator for RDOs slow down...it follows the slow down of updates pretty closely. fluffball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 29 minutes ago, CosmicBuffalo said: He could have said nothing about it. The article is about RDR2. I haven't seen the interview in question but Rockstar interviews are always when they're promoting something, they're PR. He's gonna sell the game up, not down. 30 minutes ago, CosmicBuffalo said: Unless people are not paid for overtime, seems pretty whiney to me..especially with R* that is lucky to make a game every five years. The crunch talk is a topic for another thread but 60-80 hour work works that are highly encouraged if not mandatory otherwise you get chewed out aren't a good thing. People have lives and when you hit that point in your life, you'll understand. 31 minutes ago, CosmicBuffalo said: Dan Houser leaving is the biggest indicator for RDOs slow down...it follows the slow down of updates pretty closely. You do realise Dan took a sabbatical he never returned from early 2019 right? Frontier Pursuits come out towards the end of that year. There's nothing at all to back up what you're saying here I'm afraid mate, you're just... wrong lol. Yellow Dog with Cone and fluffball 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzyBlues Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Not to derail the thread any further, but I will say that Dan stated that he had a third story to tell in terms of a RDR3 and I could only assume that would be focused on the OG gang. This was just before the game came out as well, so I could only imagine it had something to do with him and Take 2. Jason and Danish Crusader 2 Dan Houser's personal barber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Vice Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 A third option is that he may have just retired from his professional/official duties at R* and went to focus on his personal life and family, but may still be doing work for them, especially because he seemed to have a good relationship with his brother Sam. It's either way not as dramatic as you'd think lol. His tenure was quite incredible, many directors/writers quit before that, in games, films, what have you. Change happens with time and it's not always bad. I'm also pretty sure Dan has/had nothing to do with RDO. kcole4001 1 GTANet | Red Dead Network | black lives matter | stop Asian hate | trans lives = human lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerfgoth Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I don´t know if anyone posted this? https://kotaku.com/red-dead-online-players-are-frustrated-after-months-wit-1848329178 DuduLima and ventogt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuduLima Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) It's all coming together folks ... Resume since the start ... - The hashtag achived enough success to the point of the words "Red Dead Online" being at the TT trends since the start of the protest. - The protest also got people on other platforms such as Tik-Tok and Youtube. - Some big Youtubers also joined the protest including SomeOrdinaryGamers, Optimus, Hazard, TheProfessional and YongYea. (Those are mainly outside RDO, and no i didn't forgot Jowers97, Dirty-Tyler and PVPCat, RDR/RDO content creators which also made videos over this protest). - The majority of the big international gaming sites/tabloids such Kotaku, Forbes, Polygon with the sole exception of IGN made posts related to the SaveRDO protest. Yesterday ... - R* owner, Take Two made a move to buy the mobile gaming company Zynga ($ 12.7 Billions) in a move which will cost more than Zenimax-Bethesda deal costed to Microsoft-Xbox. HOWEVER ... - Take Two stocks are still dropping roughly over - 12%~14% per day since the start of the whole #SaveRDO protest and even after the announcement of the Zynga buyout. YET ZYNGA can be formally bought by another company IF the offer is better, the agreement have a go-shop provision. (45 days). Note: That's how Take-Two lost Codemasters to Eletronic Arts. - Noteworthy to stocks: NASDAQ $TTWO stock: - 13% today, - 14% since last month and overall - 17% in 6 months). Year Peak Value in 2021 for $TTWO stock: $192,91 at 04/nov/2021 . In 10/jan/2022 the actual share/stock value is $142,99 (-25% since 04/nov/2021) which was the highest price per stock in 2021 for the $TTWO. https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/ttwo The pressure of the whole #SaveRDO protest was becoming big enough, the whole T2-Zynga deal became a contrast to the whole situation. I hope this week we see some answers from R* or Take Two at least ... Edited January 11 by DuduLima Rev. Gnash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direwrath Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 17 hours ago, DuduLima said: I hope this week we see some answers from R* or Take Two at least ... I do too, but they seem to be taking it all in stride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerfgoth Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 https://www.ign.com/articles/save-red-dead-online-cry-for-support-rockstar But the best part is last part in the article: "......wanting assurance that the promise of an ongoing Wild West world in the tradition of GTA Online hasn't been broken already by Rockstar and publisher Take-Two. IGN has reached out to Rockstar for comment." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaxxerDog Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 7 minutes ago, Nerfgoth said: https://www.ign.com/articles/save-red-dead-online-cry-for-support-rockstar But the best part is last part in the article: "......wanting assurance that the promise of an ongoing Wild West world in the tradition of GTA Online hasn't been broken already by Rockstar and publisher Take-Two. IGN has reached out to Rockstar for comment." Oh now that IGN has reached out for comment they'll suuuuurely release a statement. I mean come on. JohnMcLoviin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lola Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, ZaxxerDog said: Oh now that IGN has reached out for comment they'll suuuuurely release a statement. I mean come on. Don't hold your breath. Rev. Gnash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Dear IGN and every other site talking about it, in case you're reading this; Can you not miss the fact the game has no cross platform progression or the ability to transfer progresses one way to another platform like R* allowed with GTAO? There's people who'd have to restart RDO from scratch because they changed console. It's nice and all to see these sites pick up on what's going on but R*'s lack of support for the new generation of consoles and people moving platforms be it to a different console or PC is absolutely f*cking mental and needs addressing with the talk about the lack of new meaningful content. kcole4001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowfennekin Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 13 minutes ago, Jason said: Dear IGN and every other site talking about it, in case you're reading this; Can you not miss the fact the game has no cross platform progression or the ability to transfer progresses one way to another platform like R* allowed with GTAO? There's people who'd have to restart RDO from scratch because they changed console. It's nice and all to see these sites pick up on what's going on but R*'s lack of support for the new generation of consoles and people moving platforms be it to a different console or PC is absolutely f*cking mental and needs addressing with the talk about the lack of new meaningful content. Huh? That complaint doesn't even make f*cking sense as we're still on the current version of RDR2, transfer only happened cause GTA got a NG version. That's literally it! No favoritism, you can't even transfer GTA progress anymore and it's been that way for 3-4 years at least! If you changed consoles then your GTA progress is gone too Nerfgoth and Buddy Hightower 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 27 minutes ago, Shadowfennekin said: Huh? That complaint doesn't even make f*cking sense as we're still on the current version of RDR2 It makes no sense to you that in a era where every game is moving to support cross platform progression that people aren't happy that RDR2 failed to support people moving to PC when the PC version launched (GTAO supported that, by the way) or to support people who switched from Xbox to PS or vice versa? 27 minutes ago, Shadowfennekin said: transfer only happened cause GTA got a NG version. True, but it was a very different time. The PS4/Xbox One didn't support BC back then, so GTAO had to a a new gen version out. Today games support it through the consoles built in backwards compatibility but the vast majority of developers with service based games began to add cross platform progression (or are planning to add it) in order to support people moving to the new platforms, be it to PC or a different console family. We even have single player games supporting this stuff now. 27 minutes ago, Shadowfennekin said: No favoritism, you can't even transfer GTA progress anymore and it's been that way for 3-4 years at least! If you changed consoles then your GTA progress is gone too Who said anything about favouritism? It's bullsh*t that GTAO doesn't support cross platform progression either. We KNOW they have the ability to do it because they did it with GTAO and from what I remember it's believed they only disabled it to stop 360/PS3 modders transferring accounts with billions to the newer platforms or PC. We even have/had evidence that they were setting it up for RDO, as evidence was found it on the Rockstar website. I think it's a perfectly f*cking valid critcism I have that I, who played RDO from day 1 and racked up hundreds of hours of progression into it can only continue that progress on a platform I no longer own, while more and more games are supporting cross platform progression and letting me play where ever the hell I want. If Rockstar/T2 do want to support RDO and make it the game people want it to be, letting people play their characters again would be a pretty important step in doing that. I aint asking for a miracle, all I'm asking for Rockstar to do the bare minimum that is expected of an online game in 2022, something all their competition is doing and something they've done in the past. kcole4001, eighthdoctor and Lonely-Martin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonely-Martin Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, Shadowfennekin said: Huh? That complaint doesn't even make f*cking sense as we're still on the current version of RDR2, transfer only happened cause GTA got a NG version. That's literally it! No favoritism, you can't even transfer GTA progress anymore and it's been that way for 3-4 years at least! If you changed consoles then your GTA progress is gone too To be fair, Shadow. Now's the time to get our voices heard, no matter what the ideal additions may be. This game is struggling in various ways, and the quickest way to get it back on track is to appeal to as many that have been alienated as possible. So weather it's more outlaw content, transfers, or lobby choice, we should try our best to scream it from the rafters now more than ever. Course it could be a complete wasted effort, but I feel it's now or never. They don't add the common requested things or finally trigger their back up plans, this game is royally f*cked. That I really don't want. 3 hours ago, Jason said: Dear IGN and every other site talking about it, in case you're reading this; Can you not miss the fact the game has no cross platform progression or the ability to transfer progresses one way to another platform like R* allowed with GTAO? There's people who'd have to restart RDO from scratch because they changed console. It's nice and all to see these sites pick up on what's going on but R*'s lack of support for the new generation of consoles and people moving platforms be it to a different console or PC is absolutely f*cking mental and needs addressing with the talk about the lack of new meaningful content. And lobby choices/job and mission freedoms. Let players play how they want and stop dictating how we must play our damn game!!! Can't lie, it frustrates me now how R*/T2 haven't made a peep given it was lovely all weekend I know I'm gonna keep shouting from the rafters about what I honestly believe would help. I truly hope they really address this era soon. Edited January 12 by Lonely-Martin Nerfgoth, bevlian89, TCMike and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzyBlues Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) Rockstar Support getting jebaited. Edited January 12 by IzzyBlues Direwrath, Shrek Realista, Talisman_83 and 10 others 2 11 Dan Houser's personal barber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watain Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Not trying to sh*t on anyone's hopes or spirits for still trying to save this game, but why even bother at this point? R* clearly had no idea what to do with this game from the very beginning. Launching it in a broken beta mode, keeping it that way for a long time, then releasing bunch of crap DLC with the same kind of repetitive and boring gameplay. Being a naturlist? YES! Being an outlaw? Nah nah, can't do that! Their arrogance and greed has rendered them blind. This game is the proof of that. At this point they should just acknowledge its state and close the servers down, spare us all any more grief over it. If they didn't use its potentials from get-go, I don't see why they suddenly would do that now. It's been over three years and they more or less neglected all our wished from the very beginning. It's all GTAO and shark cards. I stopped playing months ago. Uninstalled it, not looking back. RDO is DEAD to me and it's a relief. I'm not gonna beat this dead horse any longer. My advice too all of youse - do the same. Move on. By killing the game statistically we really show R* our disappointment. tonko, Zakfiel and Nerfgoth 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caffeination Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 At this point, I’d rather Rockstar come out and announce they’ll shut down this game than keep up with the silent treatment. Shrek Realista, Direwrath and Talisman_83 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hightower Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/11/2022 at 4:19 PM, Jason said: Dear IGN and every other site talking about it, in case you're reading this; Can you not miss the fact the game has no cross platform progression or the ability to transfer progresses one way to another platform like R* allowed with GTAO? There's people who'd have to restart RDO from scratch because they changed console. It's nice and all to see these sites pick up on what's going on but R*'s lack of support for the new generation of consoles and people moving platforms be it to a different console or PC is absolutely f*cking mental and needs addressing with the talk about the lack of new meaningful content. Transfers would be nice, but I think that is the very bottom of the priority list for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direwrath Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 17 hours ago, Watain said: Not trying to sh*t on anyone's hopes or spirits for still trying to save this game, but why even bother at this point? R* clearly had no idea what to do with this game from the very beginning. Launching it in a broken beta mode, keeping it that way for a long time, then releasing bunch of crap DLC with the same kind of repetitive and boring gameplay. Being a naturlist? YES! Being an outlaw? Nah nah, can't do that! Their arrogance and greed has rendered them blind. This game is the proof of that. At this point they should just acknowledge its state and close the servers down, spare us all any more grief over it. If they didn't use its potentials from get-go, I don't see why they suddenly would do that now. It's been over three years and they more or less neglected all our wished from the very beginning. It's all GTAO and shark cards. I stopped playing months ago. Uninstalled it, not looking back. RDO is DEAD to me and it's a relief. I'm not gonna beat this dead horse any longer. My advice too all of youse - do the same. Move on. By killing the game statistically we really show R* our disappointment. If they turn things around I will be back, but at the moment I hardly log on anymore. This is the last ditch effort I think before many will do just like you have done and give up on it completely. I don't want to see it go away, it's my favorite game to play, but I have other things to focus on and that's what I'm doing now. Rev. Gnash, Watain, Lonely-Martin and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rm93 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 let's keep! Rev. Gnash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb204 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Rev. Gnash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max96 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 In one week we'll see if we get any info or another month of bonuses and discounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ventogt Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 35 minutes ago, Max96 said: In one week we'll see if we get any info or another month of bonuses and discounts. Max96 and JohnMcLoviin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max96 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 6 hours ago, ventogt said: Bonuses and discounts we deserved! ventogt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nerfgoth Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 It didn´t work! No qbeta of substance so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyxTx Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 #QuitRedDeadOnline Nerfgoth, Do not Bogart that and Shrek Realista 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concolt Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Has this saved the game yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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