skyfamster Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 #SaveRedDeadOnline https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SaveRedDeadOnline&src=typeahead_click&f=top but I doubt that will work,how about a "#boycott buying GTAOL E&E" one ? if enough people join,R will be imtimidated Grizzy, ninkanooob, Liyah Jade and 10 others 11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuNova Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 My only response to R*/Take2 is... Blendi-, IceHeartache, WanteD1 and 14 others 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonely-Martin Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I'm not on Twitter, and this game hasn't shown me it's worth joining to even try helping spread the word. I want this game to thrive, but the fans have done their bit since day one, it's R*'s turn to show us they're listening and that it's worth saving RDRO's future now. I won't boycott GTA because that game is too entertaining which is all that matters. This game needs to see what GTA does right and incorporate plenty to give it a fighting chance but R* are too keen to force us in how to play our open world game. Freedom and choice is key! WanteD1, Yellow Dog with Cone and Nerfgoth 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcole4001 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I'm not on twittah, no intention to join but the effort is appreciated. (the GTAV - Expired & Outdated video post was hilarious I gotta say) I've been on my own personal GTA boycott, it's been unistalled for almost a year now, can't see that ever ending. Never going to buy another greedstar game. Just doin' my part. LeeC22, Yellow Dog with Cone and Do not Bogart that 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUT THE BENZ Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 twitter? I only know bleeper...where-ever, let R*/T2 know what's up. apparently they don't give a sh*t, nevertheless it's good to vent! OT: f*ck buying another R* title, they have enough moneyz and no intention to give back to the audience! I'd rather pre-order and buy remedy entertainment's ALAN WAKE 2 - twice! kcole4001 and Yellow Dog with Cone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blendi- Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 doesnt put actual content * complains theres not enough gold sales * abandons game cockstar logic ventogt, Yellow Dog with Cone and kcole4001 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direwrath Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I am not on Twitter, might get me in trouble, which is why I had to deactivate my Facebook. But I appreciate that players are finally starting to gather together and really raise some hell, although I think it is for naught because R* has made their mind up and we ain't going to be changing it. As for any new titles, I just might pass them up. If R* can't be bothered to do a little upkeep on their present and slowly dying online game, it shows me that they aren't worth my time or money in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yangy Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Not to beat a dead horse (Wow, that analogy is fitting considering the state and genre of RDO) but we all know what the game needs. A roadmap like this one I wrote up last year: https://www.gtabase.com/news/red-dead-redemption-2/red-dead-online-the-ultimate-concept-bundle-a-5-year-and-11-update-plan *Lola, Kirsty, Yellow Dog with Cone and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirsty Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Wrote a little article about the campaign happening on Twitter: https://gtanet.com/make-or-break-community-rallies-behind-red-dead-online/ Leftover Pizza, Yellow Dog with Cone, Lonely-Martin and 11 others 12 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieAdler Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I've been sharing and supporting the #SaveRedDeadOnline movement on Instagram, within the VP/Roleplay community. Most of the big accounts on there are also on board Rvfae, Yellow Dog with Cone and Direwrath 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonely-Martin Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kirsty said: Wrote a little article about the campaign happening on Twitter: https://gtanet.com/make-or-break-community-rallies-behind-red-dead-online/ A good read and round up I feel. Hopefully it also helps ease the criticism I've seen you guys get at times for apparently not calling out R* or helping share the community's concerns when the chips are down too (not that that was my viewpoint mind you, lol). But you do well to highlight how hard it could be to push for more. For me personally, the thought of people arguing to buy gold in hope it triggers a response is troubling as like you said, it could so easily be for nothing (not that I've seen that here, but may have missed it). But I also just believe the players since day one and that do continue to root for and support this game have more than done their part given how quickly R* have been to promote those successes as better than expected in sales/figures/meetings etc in the past too. That said, if we 'down tools' and all just stopped, T2 might see that as a point of no return too and the real end comes sooner. What can we do? What a blooming mess it is TBH. In my opinion I feel it's time for R*/T2 to take the chance now. I get it is about revenues and such, but I believe both this and GTA:O have made them so much that it wouldn't hurt them to try now. If it works and brings the game back to life and gets us buzzing again, awesome. If not, at least we and R* can honestly say they tried and the game gets a better send off. But with that, R* need to listen to what we want in general too. You listed some things that are often mentioned here, but I'm sure it's not make or break if R* try other things too, so long as they are well thought out and implemented naturally (like heists or properties etc). I do feel R* could offer more freedom though because I feel that's definitely helping GTA continue to thrive also, but that's just my opinion there. But I'm sure we'd all just appreciate them trying, really communicating their efforts. If they said the pandemic hampered things or if they said they tried 'this way' but now going to change things up and have a good rethink but give them time, they would be praised for acknowledging the game's potential and they wish to push forward to unlock some of it. I don't think that would hurt them as much as it seems they think it could. Course, if they have something huge coming after E&E gets it's release, and it proves to be that good, it can't come soon enough. But for now (for me) it's time to let go and see what happens as we near RDRO's 4th birthday. I just hope it's humble pie we get instead of that early retirement cake when we get there. Edited January 8 by Lonely-Martin Autospell mistakes. Kirsty, Spider-Vice, Direwrath and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayoChiki Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 you know, usually those campaigns have to come with some leverage for the people it's directed to. like, what's on line for r*ckstar? people already know the state of RDO, every time they tweet or post on their social media they get ratio'd. e&e has been mocked the second it was announced, definitive edition was a disaster, yet it's like everything is fine so, what's for them to lose here? i'm pretty sure they have one or two pocket updates in things get too bad (unlikely) but even then, people keep buying their products day 1 Direwrath and LeeC22 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Isn't it rich? Are we a pair? Me here at last on the ground, You in mid-air, Where are the clowns? Isn't it bliss? Don't you approve? One who keeps tearing around, One who can't move, Where are the clowns? There ought to be clowns? Just when I'd stopped opening doors, Finally knowing the one that I wanted was yours Making my entrance again with my usual flair Sure of my lines No one is there Don't you love farce? My fault, I fear I thought that you'd want what I want Sorry, my dear! But where are the clowns Send in the clowns Don't bother, they're here Isn't it rich? Isn't it queer? Losing my timing this late in my career But where are the clowns? There ought to be clowns Well, maybe next year BUT THE BENZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuduLima Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) I will be direct with my thoughts ... R* simply DOESN'T care for RDR Online, we as player/s don't have proper new content for like a year and proper big expansions ... in like 1.5~2 years ... in the same time .. GTA got itself: - A DLC with a new BIG Heist which can be made either with a group or SOLO (for the first time since the OG Heist introduction) and can be made in many ways based on the possible approaches, selectable sec. loot, multiple compound infiltration routes and multiple escape routes, newer characters, vehicles, customization and there you go... - A DLC focused on street race scene including some of the most requested cars for the franchise, some of them with a lot of customization parts, new type of races, a new set of mini-heists alongside a new business and characters. - A DLC which is basically a COLLAB with a legendary hip-hop artist, a legendary producer and DJ plus the return of a story mode main character in a whole new set-up business, new contract missions, new rides and the "new" hitman missions based on the story mode hitman/assasination set of missions. WE GOT CAPITALEY AND BLOOD MONEY MISSIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES AT LEAST THO ... (HA HA HA HA). GTA is their chicken of the golden eggs ... the reason and money is more than enough to keep focus on that. The problem with RDO is beyond the content, R* killed the in-game methods for premium gold bars currency while NOT making the premium currency a valuable asset ... basically ... people don't have any NEW premium-currency content to use them, while the game also don't have new content to standard currency. (It is true they forced the old OP content as a way to chesse the premium currency, but of course that didn't worked). RDO while have the potential of new content ranging from Heists to Roles, Locations, Animals, Weapons, it looks like a rushed dream ... IF RDO had frequent updates and new content i'm almost sure RDO would have a proper and higher NET income/profit. (Still not close or like GTA Online). - THEY ARE CERTAINLY PUTTING A EFFORT IN GTA E&E, RDO GETTING NO CONTENT AFTER PEOPLE, AHEM MEDIA CALLING THE E&E AND TRILOGY FIASCO PUT EVEN MORE PRESSURE IN T2 AND R*. RDO getting Recycled content for those "2 months" ... I've put over 1200 hours in RDO, i made some friends, enemies, saw the game since the goddamn beta to the actual state, got a lot of disconnects, bugs and there you go, i almost lost my hope for RDO. IF ... they want go keep the game alive like "this" just kill the damn game ... while not a GTA, RDR Online have also their own fans and people which enjoy the game like a lifestyle. (OG GTA Online stopped the updates 6 years ago and R* kept the servers running/working until last year, for me ... it was something disrespectful). - I do want to see RDO achieve proper success, but T2/R* ... oh well ... And ... Don't get me wrong ... but how many RDO fellas will let this issue "slip" once R* announce new content for RDO ... it was always like this ... the old clown protest worked like a charm, right ? (While i'm in the SaveRDO train, i hope people at least remember R* already made everyone look like clowns before, the game and fellow RDO fans deserves better). Edited January 8 by DuduLima Lonely-Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direwrath Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) I let my Tumblr friends know about this just in case they weren't aware. Maybe we can start something on all of these social media sites and really raise some hell? 34 minutes ago, DuduLima said: Don't get me wrong ... but how many RDO fellas will let this issue "slip" once R* announce new content for RDO ... it was always like this ... the old clown protest worked like a charm, right ? (While i'm in the SaveRDO train, i hope people at least remember R* already made everyone look like clowns before, the game and fellow RDO fans deserves better). The clown prank was great but I think it didn't do much because players were still playing the game? Numbers are all that seems to matter to these people. This time I think it might take something more, a large portion of players boycotting the game so their numbers fall and they are forced to take notice would probably do the trick. That with the coupling of players voicing their frustrations on the social media sites en masse is all we got left, either that is going to cause them to make it right. Or it will cause them to shut down the game all together, though I don't think they will do that. The kicker to this is, will we get enough players to join along to make a stir? 3 hours ago, Kirsty said: Wrote a little article about the campaign happening on Twitter: https://gtanet.com/make-or-break-community-rallies-behind-red-dead-online/ Awesome! I hope that little steak thing means something good, cause that's what I gave it. Edited January 8 by Direwrath Kirsty, Rev. Gnash, Lonely-Martin and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUT THE BENZ Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 is it that time? AGAIN?! Direwrath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 C H A R A C T E R T R A N S F E R S Rvfae, BUT THE BENZ, Yellow Dog with Cone and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aFinn Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) You know what would have made all this unnecessary? If Rockstar had put once sentence in December's Newswire article about when to expect the next Red Dead update. Why didn't RDO get a winter update? Seeing the GTA Online Contract update and how cutscene heavy it is, it's likely they had a lot of employees busy in making that. Trilogy issues also demanded attention in the end. And GTA V E&E. Feels like RDO is always the red-headed step child. First year they were busy making the PC version so Online remained in beta for over a year. Then finally we got Frontier Pursuits which to this date remains the only good big update. Moonshiners was good in content but broke the game for a long time, Naturalist broke the game for high level players. You know what is one of the biggest issue for me? No new catalogue clothing since Naturalist update. Bounty Hunter expansion and Blood Money updates didn't have any, just a couple rags in Outlaw Passes. They haven't even properly circulated the Limited Stock ones for a long while now. What is left after the content in updates is played? New clothes, horses, guns, new items to buy for camp, camp cat, anything to buy with our monies and gold. That is what we don't have at the moment and it's making the smaller updates even smaller. Many of us feel extremely frustrated at these new monthly updates. They make changeable bonuses for each week inside the month, but don't bother to change the discounts or limited stocks? I don't see the point. As with anyone else still playing Red Dead, we do it because we love the incredible beautiful world they have created and it feels a horrible waste to not use it's full potential. I see Red Dead Redemption 2 being on top 10 games purchased lists all the time still. I am sure there will be more updates to come, it's just such a shame that it's always RDO who gets swept to the side for other projects. Edited January 8 by aFinn bevlian89, eighthdoctor, Yellow Dog with Cone and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUT THE BENZ Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, aFinn said: Feels like RDO is always the red-headed step child. First year they were busy making the PC version so Online remained in beta for over a year. Then finally we got Frontier Pursuits which to this date remains the only good big update. that was Imran's last gift to the players - and then he left (like almost everyone else) 1 hour ago, aFinn said: I am sure there will be more updates to come, it's just such a shame that it's always RDO who gets swept to the side for other projects. there are NO other projects, really, it's just a "skeleton" crew (in comparison to 2013) trying to not f*ck up the remix and remastered editions of a game almost 10 years old. I honestly don't see R* capable of creating GTA 6 atm. Spider-Vice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I doubt this will work. It seems the main person, Dan Houser, was the true driving force behind RDO and since he left we have had basically nothing. The media and whiney fans are to blame for his resignation. So unless R*s greed is satisfied there may be no updates for a while. R*s greed is best highlighted by forcing gold and one freemode type. Trying to force all players into one box was a terrible idea. I think one of their execs said they could do it, I mean do invite onlys etc.., I think the guy that said this has left R* as well...not exactly sure. Why they do not just try it and add no content makes no sense to me? Simple lobby types would unlock RDOs potential far more than any new content. Maybe if they ask just for this, it could work. Lonely-Martin, Direwrath and bevlian89 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepp303 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Cool topic and great idea with the campaign hopefully it will get enough attention and R* will go back and put more effort on RDO like in the old times. But please no more stupid, childish clown campaign, the last clown campaign was really annoying. These annoying clown theme bring the RDO community in the wrong light spot. When you want feel like a clown or something go outside to the street as a clown but leave RDO alone with these stupid clown stuff. And again stupid and boring clown posts. Direwrath and Lonely-Martin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direwrath Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 hours ago, Sepp303 said: Cool topic and great idea with the campaign hopefully it will get enough attention and R* will go back and put more effort on RDO like in the old times. But please no more stupid, childish clown campaign, the last clown campaign was really annoying. These annoying clown theme bring the RDO community in the wrong light spot. When you want feel like a clown or something go outside to the street as a clown but leave RDO alone with these stupid clown stuff. And again stupid and boring clown posts. I think we are way beyond that sort of thing now, thankfully. They want numbers, well I think it will get their attention if those numbers fall considerably, and that would mean nobody logging in to don a red nose and squeaky shoes. Lonely-Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 hours ago, CosmicBuffalo said: Simple lobby types would unlock RDOs potential far more than any new content. Maybe if they ask just for this, it could work. Simply launching private lobbies would add absolutely zero to the game at this point. Don't get me wrong they should've been there day 1 as I'm also not a fan of the forced PvPvE design Rockstar are fans of, as the games content is always at odds with it, but private lobbies would be a very depressing bone to be thrown in our direction as a show of support. I've banged on about it for over a year now that it's becoming a meme but the absolute first thing Rockstar should do is acknowledge the new generation of consoles. That means a few things, first is support for players who changed platforms, aka character transfers, the very fact they had zero support for people who changed platform is frankly pathetic. Then they need next-gen patches for the games, 60fps support etc. We're over a year into the new consoles and RDO's only active on console through the consoles backwards compat support, if either or both the consoles didn't support BC then Rockstar would've been in trouble. Once they've established a presence on new gen platforms and gave last-gen players a route back into RDO without starting fresh, then they can start building on that foundation and start looking to retain players through updates. Right now RDO has no long term foundation to build on as it's playerbase is fractured. I don't expect anything of this to happen it has to be said, I've long, long held the opinion that RDO was a Take-Two demand and not something Rockstar themselves wanted to make with their priority being the single player. Nothing I've seen with RDO has given me any reason at all to change my mind on that. Also the moment it didn't have cross platform progression from last gen to current gen the writing was on the wall, the lack of transfers to PC was worrying when that launched as well. No support for things like that these days is a telltale sign that they're not in it for the long term. Nerfgoth, Lonely-Martin, Direwrath and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direwrath Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Right now RDO has no long term foundation to build on as it's playerbase is fractured. This right here... Lonely-Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonely-Martin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 50 minutes ago, Jason said: Simply launching private lobbies would add absolutely zero to the game at this point. Don't get me wrong they should've been there day 1 as I'm also not a fan of the forced PvPvE design Rockstar are fans of, as the games content is always at odds with it, but private lobbies would be a very depressing bone to be thrown in our direction as a show of support. As much as I can understand your point on this, and agree the game really needs much more than that to gain the traction it could. I do feel it would be a clearer sign that R* are seeing the game struggle and by adding the lobby choices they once touted as 'in reserve', it would be one way to show us that they're at least willing to rethink their approach and try something else for RDRO. We know it's at least part of their plan B, so to see them trigger it would be a good sign I reckon, so long as they also communicate there's more major rethinking and content to come. It would scream 'we're listening and willing to change things' to me. That freedom is key when you look at other games offering it, not just lobby choices, we need much more freedom and control on jobs/modes too. Not being able to pick what maps we like with the rotation thing, not having them with options to restrict or choose the weapon types, length of games, size of teams, all that sort of thing I feel really helps an open world sandbox type game thrive. All of it needs a good change up. And the rest you mention like transfers etc because as you said, the game doesn't feel like it has the future considered like what GTA clearly has with its plans (regardless of peoples criticisms of the E&E trailers, lol). I get R* wanted to try new ways, but there's aspects of GTA that just work so well and must be key to why that game can keep on ploughing through, they've even stopped with the public only requirements of late there too and the game just keeps growing. For a game that's seemingly more niche or limited due to the era represented, and one R*/T2 are obviously keen to replicate the success GTA had over the years, I'm so surprised they haven't seen that there's proven ways to strike gold again but seemingly refuse to go for it with RDRO. 5 hours ago, Sepp303 said: Cool topic and great idea with the campaign hopefully it will get enough attention and R* will go back and put more effort on RDO like in the old times. But please no more stupid, childish clown campaign, the last clown campaign was really annoying. These annoying clown theme bring the RDO community in the wrong light spot. When you want feel like a clown or something go outside to the street as a clown but leave RDO alone with these stupid clown stuff. And again stupid and boring clown posts. Yep. Folk tried that route, and here we are. Gotta be a better way. Yellow Dog with Cone, bevlian89 and Direwrath 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said: As much as I can understand your point on this, and agree the game really needs much more than that to gain the traction it could. I do feel it would be a clearer sign that R* are seeing the game struggle and by adding the lobby choices they once touted as 'in reserve', it would be one way to show us that they're at least willing to rethink their approach and try something else for RDRO. We know it's at least part of their plan B, so to see them trigger it would be a good sign I reckon, so long as they also communicate there's more major rethinking and content to come. It would scream 'we're listening and willing to change things' to me. Or, if they added lobby choice, it would feel like the final nail in the coffin. The "the games dead, so here ya go, have fun while it lasts" type of thing. If it was added with a lot of other stuff though, sure absolutely. but if R*/T2 do have plans for RDO and want to support they need a statement update, something that signals their intent. Direwrath, Lonely-Martin and Yellow Dog with Cone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarksunDaFirst Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 20 hours ago, DuduLima said: The problem with RDO is beyond the content, R* killed the in-game methods for premium gold bars currency while NOT making the premium currency a valuable asset ... basically ... people don't have any NEW premium-currency content to use them, while the game also don't have new content to standard currency. (It is true they forced the old OP content as a way to chesse the premium currency, but of course that didn't worked). RDO while have the potential of new content ranging from Heists to Roles, Locations, Animals, Weapons, it looks like a rushed dream ... IF RDO had frequent updates and new content i'm almost sure RDO would have a proper and higher NET income/profit. (Still not close or like GTA Online). Not just with the premium currency, but all currency. GTAO had it's share of grinders where people always had 10s, maybe 100s, of millions more than they needed - the majority of the player-base wasn't flush to get everything they need, but most of it. On top of that, new players are always playing catch-up. RDO though? Gold or Cash it doesn't matter. This has been a problem since before the roles, since the roles, and every minor addition since then. The releases came too few and far between, and the assets to spend upon also to few and far between. New players need to play catchup, but 3-6 months they're flush. 20 hours ago, DuduLima said: Don't get me wrong ... but how many RDO fellas will let this issue "slip" once R* announce new content for RDO ... it was always like this ... the old clown protest worked like a charm, right ? (While i'm in the SaveRDO train, i hope people at least remember R* already made everyone look like clowns before, the game and fellow RDO fans deserves better). It definitely died down, but to be honest, the clown thing wasn't that big. It was limited to the game and some select game/tech articles in various news outlets who reported on it, but no one saw it. This is twitter (and other media forums) - so it's a bit bigger. But I hope that if R* does release a content update, that people are critical and collectively suspicious until we as players actually get into the changes. My faith in that is not very high though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonely-Martin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, Jason said: Or, if they added lobby choice, it would feel like the final nail in the coffin. The "the games dead, so here ya go, have fun while it lasts" type of thing. If it was added with a lot of other stuff though, sure absolutely. but if R*/T2 do have plans for RDO and want to support they need a statement update, something that signals their intent. Yeah, that's a fair point too. Much like if we all stopped playing, T2 could see that as the sign to call it a day as it's not selling/drawing. Or if we all logged in as clowns, T2 see that as getting more players logging in. We're really in a bit of a weird place whatever we do really and it could go any way now. But given the game has had the clown period before and plenty of other criticisms and only gotten worse, along with agreeing with you that the game's foundations aren't well thought out, as hopeful I am this attention helps, I'm not convinced R* will do anything aside maybe just business as usual and announce the next update a bit earlier if anything, but it'll not be the game changer we really need and they'll stick to The Grand Plan. Yellow Dog with Cone and Direwrath 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, Jason said: Simply launching private lobbies would add absolutely zero to the game at this point. Don't get me wrong they should've been there day 1 as I'm also not a fan of the forced PvPvE design Rockstar are fans of, as the games content is always at odds with it, but private lobbies would be a very depressing bone to be thrown in our direction as a show of support. I don't expect anything of this to happen it has to be said, I've long, long held the opinion that RDO was a Take-Two demand and not something Rockstar themselves wanted to make with their priority being the single player. Nothing I've seen with RDO has given me any reason at all to change my mind on that. Also the moment it didn't have cross platform progression from last gen to current gen the writing was on the wall, the lack of transfers to PC was worrying when that launched as well. No support for things like that these days is a telltale sign that they're not in it for the long term. Dan Houser specifically stated that RDO was expected to be as robust as GTAO, in the article that the media and whiners basically roasted him for the terrible sin of....encouraging overtime...I would have bailed to after that, he was more a ghost than a person in gaming it seems...so I am going to disagree that T2 demanded anything...if anything they wanted GTAO updates only and no RDO. The problem is I see with your thought is that RDO was never going to be as big GTAO....ever. No one would even argue that RDO was going to be a replacement or make more than GTAO. However, the costs to make updates of the similar quality to moonshine is much more costly...than THE CONTRACT! It needed someone like Houser to push it because all though it was would be profitable, there is no way it would be able to compare to GTAO. There is no reason that R* cannot implement lobby types and remove all the anti-griefer stuff. And simply give players what they want. I do not see how they can be any more insulting than releasing an ego stroking article about how players love Blood Money, 2 months after relases...when most players hated it...especially capitale. Then not even release a bare bones holiday update. Lobby types...blips on, so the game doesn't seem dead; free aim, invite only, crew, public, hardcore, friendly. GTAO is popular because the players had the tools to make it better than what R* envisioned. Giving players such tools could save it, but in the end you are probably right, its too late. Asking for content via a twitter mob...ehh, I doubt it will work Spoiler I am sorry, but THE CONTRACT! is not good. Cayo Perico was actually good, and I think it was fluke...mainly because the finally used the ocean heavily and added a bare bones map which was better than I expected. The one mission I played of THE CONTRACT! had infinite spawning vehicles...it was too dumb. Then there was Dr. Dre scene on the golf course and it is for lack of a better term...cringe. I felt embarrassed to play such a hokey game. To each his own, I guess. All the cut scenes from THE CONTRACT! certainly look cheaper than even the blood money cut scenes. Direwrath and bevlian89 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftover Pizza Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) Can't remember the day that T2 ever listened to the crowd with this game. Tons and tons of good suggestions were made during the years on here and other social media platforms. Hardly any of those ever got in the game. The clown movement didn't wake them up and the game is in an even worse state now. I don't doubt that this save RDO action will do nothing for the game. I'm sure it won't. Frankly, I don't expect that RDO will make it till the end of 2022. Two month long events show that there isn't even enough attention and/or resources to do weekly event updates anymore. It wouldn't surprise me if, after this last month long event, the game will just run without any for a while. Kinda sad for that one guy working on it. Whatever can save this game, without it becoming a meme of itself? I don't think there is much that actually can. Lobby types, way too late. New roles? Heists? Robberies? Farm properties? I don't think it'll work. The old west theme is just too limited to add really interesting items to. GTAO gets new cars, bikes, planes and tons of customization options for all those. What can RDO add? Another horse reskin? A new gun that works exactly the same as most others in the game? Another new saddle? Maybe some more theater cowboy clothing? Or more reskins of those? Another property you can't use as a base, like the moonshine shack? More Outlaw Passes? What if they do add proper housing that can be purchased? So you have a house in the game. Now what? What to do next? Players want new reward items constantly. Progression, rewarding progression and not just ranking up roles. RDO just doesn't offer that option. There just isn't enough to build on within this old west theme. Ranking up roles to get cosmetic items just doesn't do it to be interesting and rewarding long enough. Asking this game to be saved feels like asking a corpse to be resurrected. The land of opportunities (which is still an open ended story line), seems to have reached the limit of it's own opportunities. This saving action is not gonna help. I've played this game from day 1 beta. Stuck some serious time in it, but haven't touched it since somewhere around October/November 2019. Not because I didn't love playing it, but all because of disappointment upon disappointment when it comes to new good and fun playable content. I reread an old rant of mine about this game. The last time a new piece of clothing was added to the catalogue was March 2019 in that rant. As far as I know, that is still the case, more than 2 and almost 3 years later. I've lost hope on this game long ago and nothing, absolutely nothing that got added after I stopped playing, has convinced me that there are plans for major improvements for RDO that actually gets executed. I wish I could be more positive, but time has shown me that that's useless in this case. Edited January 9 by Leftover Pizza Lonely-Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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