JimmyDaGiraffe Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) The GTA 2 movie doesn't have any dialogue so they don't even say his last or first name. Nobody says his name in GTA 3. Catalina doesn't say his name during his cameo in San Andreas. Or maybe they confirm his name in the manual, or Rockstar just revealed his name and everyone went along with it. But I'm asking how they found out his last name. (I haven't finished GTA 3 for clarification just in case they said his name in the ending or some sh*t) Edited January 1, 2022 by JimmyDaGiraffe Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenci Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 gta 3 claude is just claude gta 2 claude is claude speed and NO claude and claude speed arent the same person gta 3 claude's name got revealed in gta sa until then he was only known as fido by maria Tacymist, kubon352, Jeansowaty and 4 others 4 1 1 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/#findComment-1071765921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stef_92 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Actually there is no official confirmation that his last name is Speed. Even based on Rockstar's answers from the Q&A from 2011: Martin4004 and Dave Mustaine 1998 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/#findComment-1071766091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiejoearmstrong8 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Naming two different protagonists "Claude" (of all things) is so dumb. Really can't blame anyone for assuming they're the same. jazzbone, Guess Who Plays GTA, lol232 and 3 others 6 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/#findComment-1071766096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycek Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 17 hours ago, JimmyDaGiraffe said: The GTA 2 movie doesn't have any dialogue so they don't even say his last or first name. Nobody says his name in GTA 3. Catalina doesn't say his name during his cameo in San Andreas. Or maybe they confirm his name in the manual, or Rockstar just revealed his name and everyone went along with it. But I'm asking how they found out his last name. (I haven't finished GTA 3 for clarification just in case they said his name in the ending or some sh*t) Claude Speed's name is mentioned in the credits to GTA 2 movie. Guess Who Plays GTA 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/#findComment-1071766256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helegad Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) DAE instruction manuals?! On 1/2/2022 at 2:10 AM, billiejoearmstrong8 said: Naming two different protagonists "Claude" (of all things) is so dumb. Really can't blame anyone for assuming they're the same. Fans look into canon way more than the devs ever do. They're obviously one and the same, just the how and why was never weighted with much importance. Same with his appearance in San Andreas, they're going to Liberty City but it takes them nine years to get there? GTA canon is a can of worms that I gave up opening a long time ago. Edited January 5, 2022 by Helegad Ifxfdh 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/#findComment-1071768603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiejoearmstrong8 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Helegad said: DAE instruction manuals?! Fans look into canon way more than the devs ever do. They're obviously one and the same, just the how and why was never weighted with much importance. Same with his appearance in San Andreas, they're going to Liberty City but it takes them nine years to get there? GTA canon is a can of worms that I gave up opening a long time ago. Oh I agree, never got the obsession over canon stuff. I just think it's kind of a silly name for a protagonist in the first place so using it twice is weird/preposterous. I dunno if they're the same or not but just would never blame anyone for thinking they are when they have the same damn name. Edited January 5, 2022 by billiejoearmstrong8 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/#findComment-1071768618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenusianDream Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 10:33 PM, JimmyDaGiraffe said: Catalina doesn't say his name during his cameo in San Andreas. Really? I vaguely remember her moaning Claude's name in one of her phone calls with CJ. Martin4004 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/#findComment-1071769116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePlake0815 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, VenusianDream said: Really? I vaguely remember her moaning Claude's name in one of her phone calls with CJ. VenusianDream 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/#findComment-1071769141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VankeX Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) So about his name, its not mentioned in game, however in GTA Online when you are making up your character and chosing parents, you can chose Claude for your dad, his name is Claude and looks just like Claude in GTA 3 with same outfit, even tho its HD universe. And about Last name Speed, i belive Claude Speed is guy set in 2D era, and its not Claude from GTA 3 Edited January 12, 2022 by VankeX Martin4004 and VenusianDream 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/#findComment-1071773669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenusianDream Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I generally differentiate the two Claude's respectfully by their surname and lack thereof, 'Claude Speed' is from GTA2 and 'Claude' is from III. They're not the same person, but it's possible that they're alternate versions of eachother since they're pretty similar to eachother and both of those games are in separate universes. Martin4004 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/#findComment-1071775369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashyap8914 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 It's just a theory I guess Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/#findComment-1071780277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin4004 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 On 1/1/2022 at 4:33 AM, JimmyDaGiraffe said: The GTA 2 movie doesn't have any dialogue so they don't even say his last or first name. Nobody says his name in GTA 3. Catalina doesn't say his name during his cameo in San Andreas. Or maybe they confirm his name in the manual, or Rockstar just revealed his name and everyone went along with it. But I'm asking how they found out his last name. (I haven't finished GTA 3 for clarification just in case they said his name in the ending or some sh*t) Answering your question widely, according to the general rule of universes, no characters can exist in more than one universe. The only exceptions might be those who aren't related to plot in any way possible, that is Lazlow Jones, Fernando Martinez etc. However, if you encounter anything connected to storyline characters such as Carl Johnson on poster in GTA IV, you should rather treat it only as a reference. And third case, if for example El Burro from GTA 1 makes an appearance in GTA 3, these two El Burros are not the same! Anything you know about El Burro from GTA 1 doesn't add up to any details about El Burro in GTA 3. So.. even though Claude Speed from GTA 2 and Claude from GTA 3 look almost the same and have the same first name, they..are..not..the..same. And as someone else pointed out, Catalina said Claude's name in one of her phonecalls in GTA San Andreas. People are calling Claude from GTA 3 as Claude Speed because they got used to it even though they are completely wrong. That's why I found pointless trying to correct them. Jeansowaty and Zack_GLC 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/#findComment-1071780343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nassyy Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) It is writen in the GTA 2 short film. Cut to the point the Zaibatsu guy in front of the computer monitor with Claude's face. However, in the actual GTA 2 game, you play as yourself or whatever name you enter. We basically play as 'generic' characters in GTA 1, London and 2. Edited January 24, 2022 by NasranSalleh Ifxfdh 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/#findComment-1071780738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BlackShadow Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) I'm pretty sure Rockstar needs to retcon some elements in the story, in order to find the answer. First of all, GTA 2's timeline is still unknown and not officially stated by Rockstar. Some elements in the game clearly points past. (old cars, DJ talking about Y2K & millenium upcoming etc..) On the other hand, weapons are futuristic and GTA2 website stating game was set during 2013's... However GTA2 movie clearly shows setting takes place around late 90's If the game takes place around 2013, it doesn't makes sense because clearly Claude would've been way older in 2013, i believe he's in his 30's in GTA3 (judging from his appearance). If GTA2 set like in late 90's that would match with GTA3. And there's also universe barrier, GTA2 set in 2D Era while GTA3 is in 3D era. And most of you know, protags from different universes cannot be in other universes. This quickly answers why Claude Speed from GTA2 cannot be Claude from GTA3, if we look at this way. For my personal belief; i believe GTA2 set in 1999 and Claude Speed is not the Claude from GTA3. Edited January 26, 2022 by BlackShadowX Martin4004 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/#findComment-1071781832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEALUX Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 There was a Facebook quiz at one point that Rockstar made which confirmed his last name. GTA 2 and III are not meant to exist in the same universe though. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/979267-how-did-people-find-out-claude-speeds-last-name/#findComment-1071782990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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