Next Red Dead Location (Image-Heavy)

[Edward RDRIII]

What do you think about the next Red Dead game location? Do you think it should still be set around America's heartlands, maybe east of the Lannahechee River (Mississipi River) or it should focus more in the west this time around? In my opinion it would be cool if it's set in an even more western location than New Austin itself, but not as far west as California, because we've already seen too much of it ever since 2013, if you know what I mean. I think the next Red Dead title should be set in states based of Idaho, Nevada, Utah, Arizona and maybe Wyoming or Colorado as well, so the game wouldn't have only deserts, its map would be even bigger and more diverse than RDR2's. Here are a few examples of landscapes from the states I mentioned:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know these photos are only from their wilderness, I'm not american and I never been there neither, but I'll do a better research about its villages, towns, possible cities and mysterious locations from the 1860's, 70's and 80's, so we'll hopefully be able to discuss them better soon!

Edited November 27, 2021 by Dudu RDRII
Topic corrected.

[Lemoyne outlaw]

i definitely want it to be set west again. i would say one of the only major downsides to rdr2. is it lacks a real western feel to most of the new part of the map. besides the heartlands and big valley. everything else feels eastern or southern. i really miss riding around in the desert with cactus and the great scenery. and new austin is not good enough. because the rdr2 version of it sucks.

 

im hoping that we will get places like california, nevada, arizona, new mexico. and as for your worry about being in california again. you do realize california in the 1800s and california in the 2000s is very different? there wont be any flying bikes or super cars. plus it could just set it in a different part of the state. i want to see san francisico. because it was a big city back then. like how saint denis is in rdr2.

[Edward RDRIII]

2 hours ago, Lemoyne outlaw said:

i definitely want it to be set west again. i would say one of the only major downsides to rdr2. is it lacks a real western feel to most of the new part of the map. besides the heartlands and big valley. everything else feels eastern or southern. i really miss riding around in the desert with cactus and the great scenery. and new austin is not good enough. because the rdr2 version of it sucks.

 

im hoping that we will get places like california, nevada, arizona, new mexico. and as for your worry about being in california again. you do realize california in the 1800s and california in the 2000s is very different? there wont be any flying bikes or super cars. plus it could just set it in a different part of the state. i want to see san francisico. because it was a big city back then. like how saint denis is in rdr2.

Yeah, I know what you mean, personally, I like RDR2's setting a lot, especially the changes Rockstar made to The Heartlands, making it a sort of green desert instead of a yellow one in the final version of the game, but whatever they're doing with the next Red Dead, I'm sure it will turn out really good as well. They can also make it full western, like you said, taking place in fictional states resembling Washington, Oregon and California, keeping Idaho, Nevada and Arizona, like I said in my original post. The best part is that those states were probably the wildest ones in the 1800's, Washington and Arizona wouldn't even be part of the Union yet, depending of when the game takes place, and Idaho would definitely be the most mysterious and interesting one to explore in my opinion, not to mention the extreme presence of native americans in those states either as allies, enemies or both, as well as their culture and folklore.

 

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A panorama of San Francisco in 1878, best displayed as a link for obvious reasons:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Panorama_of_San_Francisco_by_Eadweard_Muybridge%2C_1878.jpg/2000px-Panorama_of_San_Francisco_by_Eadweard_Muybridge%2C_1878.jpg

[Christian889]

I really like that topic and I like to think about where the next Red Dead game could take place. I also agree with @Dudu RDRII, we should go further west and i like your choice of states it could based on.

One idea could be that we would have something similar like the 4 States Meet.

 

 

We could have something like this with fictional states and that area could be considered as the "wildest place" in the Red Dead universe. Taking place in the 1870s.

Each states could be the size of RDR2's map without New Austin. So all in all the map would end up the size 3 times as big as RDR2's map and i think that should be doable.

Lets come to each state a bit more detailed:

 

1. The state north-west could be based on northern Nevada, northern Utah and Idaho.

 

Lake area in Nevada:

 

 

In that are we would also have something similar like the Comstock Lode. A huge lode of silver. The would mean that we would have a lot of smaller and bigger mines in that state. 

We would find here mining towns like Virginia City as well:

 

 

Northern Utah area:

 

 

and Idaho:

 

 

Also Idaho is very famous for mining but also for conflicts with the native americans. So here is a lot of potential for good stories. Also as @Dudu RDRII said a lot of potential for creepy stuff.

 

 

2. The state in the north-east would be based on Wyoming, Montana and South Dakota.

 

The Wyoming area could be based on the Jackson hole valley:

 

 

In those mountains you could fine some gang hideouts like the famous Hole-in-the-Wall.

You could also find there a small town, similar to Big Whiskey from the movie unforgiven (which is also very similar to Valentine in RDR2). And like in the movie in that town we could also have a powerful sheriff who seems to be a good guy in the beginning but turns out as a bad guy in the end.

 

The Montana area:

 

And in that area we would have for the most part just pure wilderness. But for a certain time period in the game we would have a gold rush in that region. In that time period one or two boomtowns would develop very fast and then become abandoned ghost towns after the gold rush. For example like Diamond City. That would also give that area a creepy vibe.

 

 

It would be also awesome to see during the gold rush people across the map, in every state, making their way to that area to try their luck and talking about it while sitting at their camp fires. Also the news papers in the game should talk about it. Gold mining should be a side activity for the player as well.

 

The South Dakota (Black Hills) area:

 

 

I know we already have an area like this in RDR2, but please give us finally Deadwood! A lot of awesome stories could have been told here.

 

 

Maybe we could also have a region based on the badlands with some more gang hideouts here:

 

 

3. The south-east state would be based on Colorado and Texas.

 

Colorado region:

 

 

In that part of the state we would find a hidden place like Mesa Verde.

 

 

You could find a treasure here and later it could also be used as a gang hideout by some random bandits.

 

Texas northern plains region:

 

 

All in all this state would have some mountains (the Colorado part) but a huge part would be plains. In the plain region we would have one or two cattle towns. Maybe something like Dodge City (I know that it is in Kansas, not Texas, but thats the creative freedom I take ). Dodge City:

 

 

We would also have some huge ranches. And here we could also be inspired by the story of Billy the Kid (I know it took place in New Mexico, but hey) and some ranches could fight a war against each other like in the Lincoln County War.

And the player would play a part in that war and could try to play each side against each other.

 

Another cool region in that state could be a swamp area based on the Caddo Lake:

 

 

So we wont miss any swamp area on the map.  

 

 

4. The last state, in the south-west, would be based on southern Utah and Arizona.

 

Southern Utah:

 

 

 

Arizona part:

 

 

In that state we would have of course a town and storyline referring to the legendary Tombstone and the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral.

But we would here also find a mining town like Bisbee:

 

 

 

I will stop here, because i already posted 1000s of pictures.^^

But i will post in the next weeks some more ideas of what towns we could find in that four states, what storylines would be cool, what easter eggs we could find and what creepy stuff would wait for us on that map.

[Middle Class Roadman]

On 12/5/2021 at 9:46 PM, Christian889 said:

I really like that topic and I like to think about where the next Red Dead game could take place. I also agree with @Dudu RDRII, we should go further west and i like your choice of states it could based on.

One idea could be that we would have something similar like the 4 States Meet.

 

 

We could have something like this with fictional states and that area could be considered as the "wildest place" in the Red Dead universe. Taking place in the 1870s.

Each states could be the size of RDR2's map without New Austin. So all in all the map would end up the size 3 times as big as RDR2's map and i think that should be doable.

Lets come to each state a bit more detailed:

 

1. The state north-west could be based on northern Nevada, northern Utah and Idaho.

 

Lake area in Nevada:

 

 

In that are we would also have something similar like the Comstock Lode. A huge lode of silver. The would mean that we would have a lot of smaller and bigger mines in that state. 

We would find here mining towns like Virginia City as well:

 

 

Northern Utah area:

 

 

and Idaho:

 

 

Also Idaho is very famous for mining but also for conflicts with the native americans. So here is a lot of potential for good stories. Also as @Dudu RDRII said a lot of potential for creepy stuff.

 

 

2. The state in the north-east would be based on Wyoming, Montana and South Dakota.

 

The Wyoming area could be based on the Jackson hole valley:

 

 

In those mountains you could fine some gang hideouts like the famous Hole-in-the-Wall.

You could also find there a small town, similar to Big Whiskey from the movie unforgiven (which is also very similar to Valentine in RDR2). And like in the movie in that town we could also have a powerful sheriff who seems to be a good guy in the beginning but turns out as a bad guy in the end.

 

The Montana area:

 

And in that area we would have for the most part just pure wilderness. But for a certain time period in the game we would have a gold rush in that region. In that time period one or two boomtowns would develop very fast and then become abandoned ghost towns after the gold rush. For example like Diamond City. That would also give that area a creepy vibe.

 

 

It would be also awesome to see during the gold rush people across the map, in every state, making their way to that area to try their luck and talking about it while sitting at their camp fires. Also the news papers in the game should talk about it. Gold mining should be a side activity for the player as well.

 

The South Dakota (Black Hills) area:

 

 

I know we already have an area like this in RDR2, but please give us finally Deadwood! A lot of awesome stories could have been told here.

 

 

Maybe we could also have a region based on the badlands with some more gang hideouts here:

 

 

3. The south-east state would be based on Colorado and Texas.

 

Colorado region:

 

 

In that part of the state we would find a hidden place like Mesa Verde.

 

 

You could find a treasure here and later it could also be used as a gang hideout by some random bandits.

 

Texas northern plains region:

 

 

All in all this state would have some mountains (the Colorado part) but a huge part would be plains. In the plain region we would have one or two cattle towns. Maybe something like Dodge City (I know that it is in Kansas, not Texas, but thats the creative freedom I take ). Dodge City:

 

 

We would also have some huge ranches. And here we could also be inspired by the story of Billy the Kid (I know it took place in New Mexico, but hey) and some ranches could fight a war against each other like in the Lincoln County War.

And the player would play a part in that war and could try to play each side against each other.

 

Another cool region in that state could be a swamp area based on the Caddo Lake:

 

 

So we wont miss any swamp area on the map.  

 

 

4. The last state, in the south-west, would be based on southern Utah and Arizona.

 

Southern Utah:

 

 

 

Arizona part:

 

 

In that state we would have of course a town and storyline referring to the legendary Tombstone and the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral.

But we would here also find a mining town like Bisbee:

 

 

 

I will stop here, because i already posted 1000s of pictures.^^

But i will post in the next weeks some more ideas of what towns we could find in that four states, what storylines would be cool, what easter eggs we could find and what creepy stuff would wait for us on that map.

 

Amazing pics keep them coming. Co-sign everything - Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, Arizona etc. have some of the most breath taking scenery in the entire United States - I'm still in awe of RDR2's map so I can only imagine what they could do with these locations.

 

Me personally I'd love for them to include parts of the pacific north west and Canada/British Columbia. 

[Pedinhuh]

It feels like we were robbed from having Mexico and a completely explorable Guarma in RDR2 so I want those areas finished in RDR3, Mexico felt underused in RDR1 for a bit and Guarma was really just a passing scenery and nothing more in RDR2, they both could be fleshed out more.

 

The main area of the game could be south and east of the Lanachee River, in RDR2 there's quite a big and unused landmass in there that it could be opened up more for us.

 

And frankly, I think we have seen enough of Dutch's gang, I want to play as Landon Rickets now and build upon his legend in RDR2 and RDR1

[Edward RDRIII]

On 12/5/2021 at 6:46 PM, Christian889 said:

I really like that topic and I like to think about where the next Red Dead game could take place. I also agree with @Dudu RDRII, we should go further west and i like your choice of states it could based on.

One idea could be that we would have something similar like the 4 States Meet.

 

 

We could have something like this with fictional states and that area could be considered as the "wildest place" in the Red Dead universe. Taking place in the 1870s.

Each states could be the size of RDR2's map without New Austin. So all in all the map would end up the size 3 times as big as RDR2's map and i think that should be doable.

Lets come to each state a bit more detailed:

 

1. The state north-west could be based on northern Nevada, northern Utah and Idaho.

 

Lake area in Nevada:

 

 

In that are we would also have something similar like the Comstock Lode. A huge lode of silver. The would mean that we would have a lot of smaller and bigger mines in that state. 

We would find here mining towns like Virginia City as well:

 

 

Northern Utah area:

 

 

and Idaho:

 

 

Also Idaho is very famous for mining but also for conflicts with the native americans. So here is a lot of potential for good stories. Also as @Dudu RDRII said a lot of potential for creepy stuff.

 

 

2. The state in the north-east would be based on Wyoming, Montana and South Dakota.

 

The Wyoming area could be based on the Jackson hole valley:

 

 

In those mountains you could fine some gang hideouts like the famous Hole-in-the-Wall.

You could also find there a small town, similar to Big Whiskey from the movie unforgiven (which is also very similar to Valentine in RDR2). And like in the movie in that town we could also have a powerful sheriff who seems to be a good guy in the beginning but turns out as a bad guy in the end.

 

The Montana area:

 

And in that area we would have for the most part just pure wilderness. But for a certain time period in the game we would have a gold rush in that region. In that time period one or two boomtowns would develop very fast and then become abandoned ghost towns after the gold rush. For example like Diamond City. That would also give that area a creepy vibe.

 

 

It would be also awesome to see during the gold rush people across the map, in every state, making their way to that area to try their luck and talking about it while sitting at their camp fires. Also the news papers in the game should talk about it. Gold mining should be a side activity for the player as well.

 

The South Dakota (Black Hills) area:

 

 

I know we already have an area like this in RDR2, but please give us finally Deadwood! A lot of awesome stories could have been told here.

 

 

Maybe we could also have a region based on the badlands with some more gang hideouts here:

 

 

3. The south-east state would be based on Colorado and Texas.

 

Colorado region:

 

 

In that part of the state we would find a hidden place like Mesa Verde.

 

 

You could find a treasure here and later it could also be used as a gang hideout by some random bandits.

 

Texas northern plains region:

 

 

All in all this state would have some mountains (the Colorado part) but a huge part would be plains. In the plain region we would have one or two cattle towns. Maybe something like Dodge City (I know that it is in Kansas, not Texas, but thats the creative freedom I take ). Dodge City:

 

 

We would also have some huge ranches. And here we could also be inspired by the story of Billy the Kid (I know it took place in New Mexico, but hey) and some ranches could fight a war against each other like in the Lincoln County War.

And the player would play a part in that war and could try to play each side against each other.

 

Another cool region in that state could be a swamp area based on the Caddo Lake:

 

 

So we wont miss any swamp area on the map.  

 

 

4. The last state, in the south-west, would be based on southern Utah and Arizona.

 

Southern Utah:

 

 

 

Arizona part:

 

 

In that state we would have of course a town and storyline referring to the legendary Tombstone and the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral.

But we would here also find a mining town like Bisbee:

 

 

 

I will stop here, because i already posted 1000s of pictures.^^

But i will post in the next weeks some more ideas of what towns we could find in that four states, what storylines would be cool, what easter eggs we could find and what creepy stuff would wait for us on that map.

I really appreciate your insight about these locations, cleary having way more knowledge about them than me, you're right about the states sizes, having three or four states, each one with the size of the entire new map of RDR2 (not including RDR1's map) would be way better than having small states which feels more like counties than states, don't get me wrong, I love RDR2's map, but it feels small when you consider it represents 5 states, not only 2 or 3, Lemoyne is the one most affected by this issue, it feels small, even the city of Saint Denis should've been bigger, it lacks some key things when compared to the city of New Orleans in the late 1800's, such as a river flowing across it by the inside and a lighthouse to help guiding ships in the nights, it's a damn port city and that's something even Van Horn has, among other things. The surrounding counties of Bluewater Marsh and Bayou Nwa didn't need to be way bigger than they already are, only a little, because the bigger city would already make up for them, but the Scarlett Meadows county should've been way bigger and all of them should've had more settlements and towns to feel even more realistic, the same applies to the other two new states of course, this would've been the case if Rockstar didn't reuse RDR1's locations and focused only on the three brand new states of Ambarino (which don't even have a town other than the indian reservation), New Hanover and Lemoyne. You might argue that the consoles probably limited the possibilities of covering those issues, but if Rockstar hadn't wasted time remaking RDR1's map to merge within RDR2's map and had a extra year to work on the game, having released it in 2019 instead of 2018, I think it would've been possible.

Edited January 7 by Dudu RDRII
Comment corrected.

[Edward RDRIII]

On 12/9/2021 at 7:36 AM, Pedinhuh said:

It feels like we were robbed from having Mexico and a completely explorable Guarma in RDR2 so I want those areas finished in RDR3, Mexico felt underused in RDR1 for a bit and Guarma was really just a passing scenery and nothing more in RDR2, they both could be fleshed out more.

 

The main area of the game could be south and east of the Lanachee River, in RDR2 there's quite a big and unused landmass in there that it could be opened up more for us.

 

And frankly, I think we have seen enough of Dutch's gang, I want to play as Landon Rickets now and build upon his legend in RDR2 and RDR1

About the Lannahechee River, it would also be interesting if we could explore both sides of it in the next Red Dead, giving the game a lively naval experience, alongside the obvious land exploration, and considering this river is based on the Mississippi River, we would have a game set both in the old west and "the old east" at the same time, with the potential for a pirate role in it, either being part of the main story or as a side activity, having pirate gangs that would constantly attack us while we travel, transport or smuggle something throughout the river, oh man, the opportunities of this idea. Some illustrations about this concept:

 

 

 

On 12/7/2021 at 4:18 AM, Middle Class Roadman said:

 

Amazing pics keep them coming. Co-sign everything - Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, Arizona etc. have some of the most breath taking scenery in the entire United States - I'm still in awe of RDR2's map so I can only imagine what they could do with these locations.

 

Me personally I'd love for them to include parts of the pacific north west and Canada/British Columbia. 

I can only imagine what Rockstar has in mind for the next Red Dead as well, I'm sure it will be a even more groundbreaking experience than RDR2, and that's really saying something!

[stag3coach2]

I personaly like the southern setting with the bayous and so on.

[Edward RDRIII]

4 hours ago, stag3coach2 said:

I personaly like the southern setting with the bayous and so on.

Me too, I hope we'll see the state of Lannahechee (Mississippi) in the next game, especially if it's set during the 1870's or 1880's at most.

[Lemoyne outlaw]

does anyone think we will see some of the locations that was mentioned in rdr2? throughout the story characters mention locations that we have not seen before. such as. crenshaw hills, deer creek, lewsey hollow. there may be more but that's what i can remember off the top of my head. in red dead redemption 1. there was an npc that mentioned wanting to go to the grizzlies. even though it was not in that game. so my guess is that rockstar threw these names of unknown locations. and they are going to put them in the next game. which would be cool. its like getting a sneak peak at some of the future locations. what do you think?

[ViktorFekete]

My favorite states in the Red Dead world are New Austin, Grizzlies and West Elizabeth. Somehow, they have a real western feeling. Big Valley is also good. I would sign up immediately for such game... And I don't want Lemoyne and Guarma.

[Lemoyne outlaw]

2 hours ago, ViktorFekete said:

 Big Valley is also good.

big valley is a part of west Elizabeth. its just separated from the other part with the river.

Edited January 31 by Lemoyne outlaw

[Boone_Tuva]

I've always thought the Alaskan tundra would be a great and unexpected location for a "western". The thing that the desert and plains share and what tonally make them classic western settings is their feeling of isolation and solitude. The tundra provides a very similar tone while also having a harsh environment that makes for it's inhabitants to be just a little crazier and wild than those in more common settings. The timing is a little tight as the Klondike Gold Rush took place roughly 1896-1899, but maybe the gang travels up the west coast through the pacific northwest and up to Alaska/Yukon looking to score some cash or take advantage of the many new settlers forging their way in an unforgiven terrain.

 

Edited January 31 by Boone_Tuva

[Edward RDRIII]

On 1/30/2022 at 1:43 AM, Lemoyne outlaw said:

does anyone think we will see some of the locations that was mentioned in rdr2? throughout the story characters mention locations that we have not seen before. such as. crenshaw hills, deer creek, lewsey hollow. there may be more but that's what i can remember off the top of my head. in red dead redemption 1. there was an npc that mentioned wanting to go to the grizzlies. even though it was not in that game. so my guess is that rockstar threw these names of unknown locations. and they are going to put them in the next game. which would be cool. its like getting a sneak peak at some of the future locations. what do you think?

I think it's very likely, there's a town west of New Austin called Canyon City, I don't know if it's still in New Austin or if it's in another state though.

On 1/31/2022 at 9:25 AM, ViktorFekete said:

My favorite states in the Red Dead world are New Austin, Grizzlies and West Elizabeth. Somehow, they have a real western feeling. Big Valley is also good. I would sign up immediately for such game... And I don't want Lemoyne and Guarma.

Big Valley is still part of West Elizabeth, if Rockstar wants to add a big city in a location more to the west, they can always do a parody of Chicago or some other big city.

On 1/31/2022 at 11:56 AM, Lemoyne outlaw said:

big valley is a part of west Elizabeth. its just separated from the other part with the river.

Exactly.

[Edward RDRIII]

On 1/31/2022 at 4:41 PM, Boone_Tuva said:

I've always thought the Alaskan tundra would be a great and unexpected location for a "western". The thing that the desert and plains share and what tonally make them classic western settings is their feeling of isolation and solitude. The tundra provides a very similar tone while also having a harsh environment that makes for it's inhabitants to be just a little crazier and wild than those in more common settings. The timing is a little tight as the Klondike Gold Rush took place roughly 1896-1899, but maybe the gang travels up the west coast through the pacific northwest and up to Alaska/Yukon looking to score some cash or take advantage of the many new settlers forging their way in an unforgiven terrain.

 

I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner, but you're right, absolutely stunning!

[Dick Justice]

I think the natural progression in location would be West of the Grizzlies / North of New Austin, plus California further to the West. I could definitely see states based on Northern California, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, Wyoming and Montana. A small-scale city, a bit larger than Saint Denis, could be based on San Francisco. 
 

To me this is an ideal map for the “golden age” of the West, set between 1870-1890. 

[GettinMeMallet1810]

On 5/21/2022 at 9:48 PM, Dick Justice said:

I think the natural progression in location would be West of the Grizzlies / North of New Austin, plus California further to the West. I could definitely see states based on Northern California, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, Wyoming and Montana. A small-scale city, a bit larger than Saint Denis, could be based on San Francisco. 
 

To me this is an ideal map for the “golden age” of the West, set between 1870-1890. 

This plus the original 2 maps in their entirety. We arent geting another red dead until ps6 so it should be feasible on that hardware

[Edward RDRIII]

On 5/21/2022 at 10:48 PM, Dick Justice said:

I think the natural progression in location would be West of the Grizzlies / North of New Austin, plus California further to the West. I could definitely see states based on Northern California, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, Wyoming and Montana. A small-scale city, a bit larger than Saint Denis, could be based on San Francisco. 
 

To me this is an ideal map for the “golden age” of the West, set between 1870-1890. 

I think there's indeed a high chance of the next Red Dead having a city based on San Francisco and being set north, west or northwest of New Austin, unless Rockstar takes the more radical route and makes the game entirely on Mexico this time around, just like RDR2 is entirely set in the USA, so we would probably see Nuevo Paraíso again, but with a extra county or two, and perhaps 3 brand new mexican states as well.

[Edward RDRIII]

7 hours ago, GettinMeMallet1810 said:

This plus the original 2 maps in their entirety. We arent geting another red dead until ps6 so it should be feasible on that hardware

Even if the new Red Dead still is from the Redemption series, I don't think it's really necessary to have the older locations from RDR1 and RDR2, I'd prefer Rockstar to just focus on the brand new locations instead and make them as accurate and big as they can compared to their real life counterparts.

[Jabalous]

Redemption 2 already covered many of the biomes and environments in the American Southwest, Midwest and Southeast, even up to Wyoming and Montana. A new Red Dead game won't be as fresh as RDR2 to RDR1 in this aspect. With that being said, I think the next game still has more to explore in that massive region, let alone the growing urban centers in the west (e.g. Los Angeles, Frisco), so we might have California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona and parts of Mexico. Reimagining these states alone would be enough. Whereas Grizzlies West in RDR2 is a reimagination of the Rocky mountains, in RDR3 we might have a reimagination of the Sierra Nevada mountain range. 

[Edward RDRIII]

2 hours ago, Jabalous said:

Redemption 2 already covered many of the biomes and environments in the American Southwest, Midwest and Southeast, even up to Wyoming and Montana. A new Red Dead game won't be as fresh as RDR2 to RDR1 in this aspect. With that being said, I think the next game still has more to explore in that massive region, let alone the growing urban centers in the west (e.g. Los Angeles, Frisco), so we might have California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona and parts of Mexico. Reimagining these states alone would be enough. Whereas Grizzlies West in RDR2 is a reimagination of the Rocky mountains, in RDR3 we might have a reimagination of the Sierra Nevada mountain range. 

Could be interesting too, maybe having some part of the map in Canada as well, John and his family went all the way from Lemoyne (Louisiana), the most southeastern state west of the Lannahechee River (Mississippi River) to the Yukon, the most northwestern state in Canada, so characters can canonically travel very long distances.

[TheMadTitan]

On 1/31/2022 at 10:41 PM, Boone_Tuva said:

I've always thought the Alaskan tundra would be a great and unexpected location for a "western". The thing that the desert and plains share and what tonally make them classic western settings is their feeling of isolation and solitude. The tundra provides a very similar tone while also having a harsh environment that makes for it's inhabitants to be just a little crazier and wild than those in more common settings. The timing is a little tight as the Klondike Gold Rush took place roughly 1896-1899, but maybe the gang travels up the west coast through the pacific northwest and up to Alaska/Yukon looking to score some cash or take advantage of the many new settlers forging their way in an unforgiven terrain.

 

 

I always thought that Alaska could possibly serve as RDR3's Gurama or Mexico where it's a location that's set outside the main US map and provides a slightly different feel to it. Perhaps we move there for a chapter but hopefully it's handled better than Guarma and is filled with content and the ability to return to it by boat.

[The Tracker]

On 11/28/2021 at 7:04 PM, Lemoyne outlaw said:

i definitely want it to be set west again. i would say one of the only major downsides to rdr2. is it lacks a real western feel to most of the new part of the map. besides the heartlands and big valley. everything else feels eastern or southern. i really miss riding around in the desert with cactus and the great scenery. and new austin is not good enough. because the rdr2 version of it sucks.

 

Ambarino and the Cumberland Forest are definitely western as well, as it resembles the Rocky Mountains and areas nearby. 

 

People always think of western settings as desertic or open, but that is not always the case, I would say coniferous forests like you can find in Colorado, Oregon, Wyoming, Montana, etc, form part of them just as well. 

[Lemoyne outlaw]

2 hours ago, The Tracker said:

 

Ambarino and the Cumberland Forest are definitely western as well, as it resembles the Rocky Mountains and areas nearby. 

 

People always think of western settings as desertic or open, but that is not always the case, I would say coniferous forests like you can find in Colorado, Oregon, Wyoming, Montana, etc, form part of them just as well. 

i can agree with you. ambarino and cumberland forest do feel a little western. but the problem with them is there are no towns there. i think ambarino is a beautiful state. from the snowy mountains and flowery hills. but there are no towns and barely any missions or anything to do there. i would love to have a snowy town up there. colter is abandoned. so i don't count it. same thing about cumberland. the only thing there is fort wallace. and you can't even walk into it like el presidio. so there is very little to do in this area. they should have done more for these places.

[éX-Driver]

It depends on when it is set. From what I’ve researched, ‘the wild west’ extended as far east as states like Arkansas and Kentucky, if we go as far back as the 1850s. By the 1890s though, basically everything other than parts of Arizona and Montana had been settled and tamed. 
If they’re willing to go outside of the stereotypical ‘old west’ there’s more variety. Alaska and the Canadian NWT could make for a very interesting setting because they were as wild as the unsettled Old West well into the 1930s, and historically ‘Northern’ fiction was seen as a subgenre of the Western that was for a time nearly as popular. They could also get even more brave with it by setting it outside north america. Australia has its own frontier past very much cut from the same cloth as the American frontier, as does colonial-era southern Africa. 
 

Personally, I’d most want to see Alaska and the Canadian north. They could work seasons and the passage of time into the game and its effects on survival. Harder to find food in the Winter, predators more aggressive in Winter, midday darkness, extreme cold. Reaallly lean into the survivalism. 

[Edward RDRIII]

16 hours ago, éX-Driver said:

It depends on when it is set. From what I’ve researched, ‘the wild west’ extended as far east as states like Arkansas and Kentucky, if we go as far back as the 1850s. By the 1890s though, basically everything other than parts of Arizona and Montana had been settled and tamed. 
If they’re willing to go outside of the stereotypical ‘old west’ there’s more variety. Alaska and the Canadian NWT could make for a very interesting setting because they were as wild as the unsettled Old West well into the 1930s, and historically ‘Northern’ fiction was seen as a subgenre of the Western that was for a time nearly as popular. They could also get even more brave with it by setting it outside north america. Australia has its own frontier past very much cut from the same cloth as the American frontier, as does colonial-era southern Africa. 
 

Personally, I’d most want to see Alaska and the Canadian north. They could work seasons and the passage of time into the game and its effects on survival. Harder to find food in the Winter, predators more aggressive in Winter, midday darkness, extreme cold. Reaallly lean into the survivalism. 

Anywhere west of the Mississippi River should be considered a wild west location in my opinion. I think a map going from the Yukon/Alaska all the way to the Baja California Sur would be amazing, covering the most western states of the three countries (Canada, USA and Mexico), this is how I think Rockstar can make it:

 

1 state based entirely on Alaska (USA):

 

 

1 state based on both Yukon and British Columbia (Canada):

 

 

 

1 state based on both Washington and Oregon (USA):

 

 

 

1 state based entirely on California (USA):

 

 

1 state based on both Baja California and Baja California Sur (Mexico):

 

 

 

Doing it this way we can have 5 states again, but in 3 different countries and with a richer terrain, language and culture variety. Not to mention it will be at least twice as big as RDR2's map, I think this size is enough for a more realistic representation of these states in the next Red Dead, RDR2's states are small for what they represent.

Edited September 11 by Edward RDRIII
Comment corrected.